Musician conspiracy theories?

17  2015-12-14 by Putin_loves_cats

What/are there any conspiracy theories behind these people:

  1. Jimi Hendrix
  2. Janis Joplin
  3. Jim Morrison

Taking a break from the occult/esoteric history and am a huge fan of the music in this era. Was just wondering if any of you know the conspiracy theories behind their passing (at such early ages) / life.

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Thanks for the link. did you mean for me to find this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMwQMMQPi98?

Any of the links will lead you to the author & the topic. There are dozens more better interviews on YouTube with the author, who died last month of a rapid-onset cancer that took only 5 months to kill him. The book itself is the best resource on the topic, which includes musicians up to the 1980s. About 90% of the New Wave acts were linked to the Copeland family and Miles Copeland, a CIA bigwig. Miles Copeland's son is Stewart Copeland, drummer for The Police.

Almost any U.S. musical act from the 1960s that you can name can be found in the book, linked to Laurel Canyon and its military-industrial-intelligence ties.

Awesome. Thanks!

Dave McGowan was a great author, one of the first 9/11 Truthers I read. Plus the Laurel Canyon series was great, as was his book "Programmed to Kill."

RIP.

It always struck me as odd that Morrison was buried before the world knew he was dead.

The main interesting thing about Morrison is that his father was a top level Admiral in the US Navy, who, supposedly, orchestrated the Tonkin False Flag which started the Vietnam war, and may have been involved in the investigation of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty.

Not sure how much of that is true, though, but the stories are out there.

yes, very interesting, especially considering the Navy's special connection with Intelligence assets/operations.

Supposedly buried.

Interesting. Got any links? I'm literally a noob in this arena.

No, I haven't looked at it in years. But from what I recall, he was in Paris, then the media reported on a Monday that he had died over the weekend and had already been interred in a Paris cemetery. If I remember correctly, there was no autopsy.

Will look more into the bread crumb, thanks!

They are supposed to be still alive, living among the common people, doing ordinary things, under different names. The same is true of Elvis. It's a modern version of the resurrection myth. When an individual is greatly loved and respected, his followers won't let him die. They put forward various reasons as to why he may still be alive. There are witness sightings of the honored individual. Elvis was sighted working in a car wash. Jesus was seen standing outside his tomb.

Yeah. The faking their deaths theory (Same with Tupac). I've heard about that, never really looked into it. Seems like they would need immense help/assistance in this. Also, what would their goal be in this theory? Just fuck it all or were they hiding from a certain group of people? Like I said, I really have done no research into things like these. I look into other things, but need a new direction based on a former lead. Thanks for the comment!

I think there are business clauses which cause certain types of famous people to "retire" their name as a corporation, and move on. Or maybe it was predetermined when they signed a contract. OK I'll be famous until I turn -- years old then I'd like to die, in a way that is either glamorous or helps a charity in that name, and then move to a nice quiet warm place with my money and only the couple people closest to me.

I think the young celeb deaths trend is a trend of Grand Closings in business, not the death of an actual person, just the end of the Actor(TM).

Maybe they got tired of being so famous. And it also generates a shit load of money

Hendrix's UK wife always claimed he was murdered.

You haven't read Strange Happenings?

Nope. I read a lot of things, but I'm trying to tie in occult/esoteric history into music. Not like the bullshit you see on youtube of the Illuminati, SATAN!!!! AHH BE SCARED, lawd JESUS. Will check it out, thanks!

In that case, it will def. be right up your alley. I was a fan of Zappa.

Was.

Zappa always confused me can you give me a run down on the basics of your change of opinion or should I just dive down this rabbit hole and find out myself?

Second this! Whats up with Zappa?

It's worth diving into. Highly entertaining. I don't want to spoil your fun.

They killed capital steez for being to real :(

Who's that? I'm aware of Tupac, Biggie and ODB. Never heard that name...

In My opinion there is a reason why nobody's heard of him but you know maybe I'm just paranoid ;)

Feast your ears

http://youtu.be/XcmR8DxuHBA

http://youtu.be/DDWAk8-leVA

Apparently this Joey badass character new about steez's "suicide" before anyone else fishy fishy fishy. Steez also tweeted some haunting text before supposedly throwing himself off a building.

With rappers, I wonder about gang hits (ties). But that's not to say the CIA/FBI didn't set it up. Interesting. Thanks for linking. I do find the Tupac, Biggie and ODB case suspect. All spoke out, all got taken out. Seems this man was flying to close to the flame?

Yup steez got burned. Their done negotiating with conscious rappers. I will be surprised if b.o.b and killer mike make it through the year. I think the Tupac thing is a dead end not enough freedom of information when he was gunned down. but these forces are getting sloppy and the steez situation reeks of hidden hand bull shit. He was probably the most talented young rapper to come out In a long long time. Makes you wonder why the ignorant rappers live so long and have such illustrious careers. I'm lookin at you diddy, jay, dre, Lil'wayne, snoop. Ect ect. Fuckin Gucci can record an album from jail wtf is that?

Naw. Dude was a legit psycho who made great music.

Calling people crazy is dismissive. And in my opinion wrong. He did make some dope tracks though.

All you have to do is look at his Twitter page to know he was crazy. Guy literally thought he was god.

We are the multiverse manifested... we are all god, prove me wrong.

First you have to prove yourself right.

Just kidding.

lol some day ill try to prove that, but I got a lot to learn. It's just my lame esoteric response when people ask me what I think the nature of god would be given the premise that we hold the belief that our bodies are vessels that pick up our consciousness which is like a radio wave. I see consciousness as the only singularity so in a sense we all have god-like potential.

I think it would be cool to be god. Not because of the whole "being god" thing, but because then I would literally be Morgan Freeman.

If hendrix had actually made an album with ELP, it would have been the best music ever created which could have had profoundly subversive effects on the population.

My aunts second husband was James Dean's father. None of this is on the record, so take it for what it's worth, but James Dean's father was named Kyldred Drew Bean. James was born Jameson Bean.

Kyldred, who went by his middle name, Drew, founded the precursor to the space program that was born after WWII. Bear in mind he did this in 1935. He was in the Navy from 1916 to 1934 at which time he was transferred to NAAS (North American Aerospace Squadron), which contained scientists and airmen from the U.S. And Canada. Prior to 1916, Drew was in West Point, alongside Eisenhower, Patton, and others.

Drew used to get drunk at family gatherings and would ramble on about his life. He was in his seventies or eighties but was still sharp as a tack, albeit quite drunk.

One of the things he mentioned over the years is that his son was raised primarily outside of their home and in a joint Canadian/US military facility to which the Bean family had no access. Tensions grew between Drew Bean and NAAS and eventually Drew reached out to a friend of his in Hollywood, whose name escapes me, and together they devised a plan to kidnap young James.

Drew successfully kidnapped James, but the plan didn't stop there. Prior to the kidnapping, Drew, along with his Hollywood connection, made a film about James' upbringing and after the kidnapping they threatened to release it.

A deal was made that James could pursue a safe life as a movie star in Hollywood if the film was destroyed. Well, Drew said he destroyed the film but he never did. As a result, James was killed and Drew spent the next thirty years of his life in an insane asylum.

I still think of Drew every year at my QuinceaƱera. This fictional story brought to you by the estate of James Bean.

If there was a conspiracy behind the music of the 60s, I hope the conspiring individuals and organizations are still alive and can be active again. I also hope there was a conspiracy behind early jazz because I'd love for them to become active again as well.

I have a conspiracy theory about musicians.

Most stuff that gets played on the radio is crap. Back in my day we had real musicians like Radiohead. These kids these days with their Taylor Swifts and their ... um ... that's the only one I know.

GET OFF MY LAWN!

"Back in my day we had real musicians like Radiohead." That explains everything Jacks. Lol . F'n Radiohead.

Hey man, radiohead created some great music, also. I'm personally a fan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Pb9LVrCSQ. Fitting for reddit.

I actually DO appreciate some of what they have done . I'm just being a douche , only because I've been called out by PC principal on anything I post. Promise not to waste any ones time on here , including mine . Reddit= Another habit I need to break . peace

Maybe, you'll have better luck/conversations here? Reddit, tis' a silly place.

On second thought, lets not go there.

Aye.

Most stuff that gets played on the radio is crap.

Completely agree!

I see a lot of "today's music is terrible, it used to be real" in this thread.

Uhhh, maybe you're just not looking hard enough?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZMwhjMLn9o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL6yRH0SNX4

These are songs off of a brand new album, released this year.

If you listen to the radio, none of it is real, even people who love "pop" can't name the pop songs from 5 years ago, because their only purpose is to control what you think, but there is certainly more music out there than radio music.

Thanks for the link. did you mean for me to find this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMwQMMQPi98?

Awesome. Thanks!

Dave McGowan was a great author, one of the first 9/11 Truthers I read. Plus the Laurel Canyon series was great, as was his book "Programmed to Kill."

RIP.

Maybe, you'll have better luck/conversations here? Reddit, tis' a silly place.