CISA is pretty long. There are a lot of shitty points to it. Give me a minute, and I'll go through what I found

It gives companies immunity in submitting your data to the federal government.

it gives permanent immunity to private contractors building, maintaining, and working on the systems collecting and storing the data of innocent citizens. If it's hacked due to negligence, then there's nobody held responsible

the bill expires in ten years, but any action taken under this bill will extend the bill for the life of the action (a never-ending war declared on cyberterror makes this a permanent law)

any federal agency has the ability to save and use your data for almost any reason. CISA defined a "cybersecurity risk" as an entire list of things from an online threat of bodily harm to leaking corporate trade secrets.

The federal government has the ability to declare a state of emergency, and this gives them the power to take control of and shut down any network (from FBI databases to things like Twitter, due to loopholes)

None of the databases or networks storing or transmitting your data have to be encrypted if it's determined to be unnecessary, or too cumbersome to implement.

immunity is granted to any monitoring of any informations systems

antitrust exemptions for companies working together against cyberthreats. This loophole could be exploited to take out competitors to create a duopoly (for example, Mcdonalds and Burger King team up to share info about an imminent attack on fast food restaurants and the attack takes out Wendy's, Subway, etc)

Really stupid question but now I'm all paranoid and afraid because everyone else is. Is America pretty much done like people are saying? That's insane, right?

No. America is done when you swell up in your paranoia and fear. Use encryption and fight for your privacy. "What can I do?"

No, but people need to fight to take it back from the slippery slope we're on.

That whole "First they came for...

"and then they came for me" proverb is happening to us now. I'd say it started with the Patriot Act, but it may have been sooner. (I know people hate to hear G-S)

Shit is going to happen to us as a country that will make us scared. Scared people back bad decisions and tend to go overboard with policy changes. What we have to learn as a society is that it's OK to be scared. It's not OK to panic, make snap decisions, and give up or compromise the civil rights the founders of our country made sure the citizens had.

The Patriot Act was a mistake.

Extending it was another mistake.

CISA is a third strike of equal magnitude. We need to fight to take this country back, and fast. We will not live in constant fear, as constant fear is a form of oppression. We cant accept th fear of being attacked or fear of our own elected representatives selling the Bill of Rights to pay for our defense and sense of security.

Are there any good things in CISA?

Its time to rethink the internet. Just because the government decided it should have power over it doesnt mean we cant create something new that funtions differently. They dont just automatically become the ultimate authority on anything they wish just because it exists.

I wish I was a billionaire genius so I could design a better internet that does not use traditional telecomunications. (Yes, I know I'm talking crazy but you never know what you dont know, right?) Nothing automatically gives them the right to regulate this creation. They'd be told in no uncertain terms to fuck off.

I wouldn't expect the replies in this subreddit to ever mention anything good about it

You can be pretty sure it isn't good based on the fact that mainstream news hasn't mentioned it.

Why do you even come here? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I've never seen you agree with anything on here.

Do you believe in any conspiracies?

I agree with plenty of things, which I upvote and move along. Things I disagree with, I tend to comment on. Why do you come here? For an echo chamber to confirm your prior "government is bad" beliefs?

Why is not agreeing with everything you see in this sub grounds for being called out and asked why I come here? It's as if I'm not welcome if I have different viewpoints.

I didn't call you a shill. I actually don't mind your post a lot of the times. Hence why I recognized you. I def don't believe the majority of things in here. I was just asking if you believed in any conspiracies.

Right on

don' kiss it goodbye.

what we need is encryption.

encrypt everything, emails, chats, browsing, even if you're not doing anything illegal. in fact, it's far more usefull to do it, if you're not doing anything illegal ... just create some noise. if everything is encrypted they can't track shit.

so, tell your friends, mine don't care though.

So basically obey, consume, and die I guess

If it's hacked due to negligence, then there's nobody held responsible

ok, so what if ... what if we start a open source project, make some software to track and make a profile of every person on the internet... sorta like facebook and google is doing. but instead, open source it, put it on github and allow anyone in the world access to this data...

surely, this would be illegal?

The immunity is only given to those private contractors employed to do so. I mean, they could. Yes.

Wow that's kind of brilliant. Have an upvote!

Wait, there's a provision that they can't leak anything. I forgot that.

Have an up vote, anyways.

It means that the illegal spying they've been doing is now legal and you have no legal recourse for the use, misuse or misapplication of the data gathered on you.

Try being less biased

What would that look like?

The United States will no longer be able to do business with Europe.

lol

you think Europe is any better? UK is basically a child puppet to the states, Germany hasn't done anything but destroy the economy of half the Europe. France is quickly becoming totalitarian state. Sweden will be the first cashless society, favoring, the people or the bank owners? Switzerland is basically a money laundering machine for mafia since its inception. who else? it's all rigged and faked.

it's the same everywhere. the global elite have the whole world under their command and if we're gonna fix it, we're gonna need a global revolution.

It won't get fixed until it all falls apart, as it is doing.

How do I get rid of my Reddit history?

You could try something like this https://github.com/x89/Shreddit