Jet fuel can't melt steel beams
0 2016-01-02 by [deleted]
I've been thinking about this for a while. It is the crucial question of the millennium and the baby boomer generation that the US government will never give a straight answer.
Please discus away but I think I am right.
39 comments
4 BingoRage 2016-01-02
But it can soften them.
1 jacks1000 2016-01-02
So what? There was melted steel in the WTC rubble. Jet fuel didn't cause that.
0 BingoRage 2016-01-02
No, that took weeks and months to form. Since, however, you posted about jet fuel, then we can talk about the softening and sagging of the steel that caused the collapse.
3 jacks1000 2016-01-02
Um, no it did not.
But even if it did take weeks and months to form (even though it didn't) - are you suggesting that the jet fuel burned for weeks and months?
That's - just dumb.
0 BingoRage 2016-01-02
No; the jet fuel ignited the fires which burned for weeks in the pile and melted, not only structural steel, but also the aluminums, zincs, magnesiums, brass, etc. that make up our office furniture, sconces, doorknobs, wiring and all the other good stuff in a modern office building.
2 jacks1000 2016-01-02
Yet the jet fuel was burned up even before the buildings "collapsed." At that point, the fuel was just the building materials and office equipment - not enough fuel to burn hot enough to keep steel melted for weeks.
1 BingoRage 2016-01-02
You're neglecting the wood, paper, aluminum, magnesium, plastics and rubber of furniture, electronics, carpeting... All fuels.
1 jacks1000 2016-01-02
I didn't neglect any of those, but in fact, mentioned the contents of the buildings as fuels.
Of course none of those burn hot enough to cause molten steel for weeks afterward.
0 BingoRage 2016-01-02
The ground-up concrete is an insulator, accumulating the heat.
0 giantfrogfish 2016-01-02
And what was the air source that kept the fires burning?
Edit: long after they had been doused in flame retardant.
1 BingoRage 2016-01-02
Since the pile was not a solid lump of compressed matter, structural features like the steel beams (softened, or otherwise) formed natural air cavities and vents. Atmospheric pressure did the rest, providing air to the pile's guts. The same structures in the pile probably facilitated the drainage of fire suppression materials.
0 giantfrogfish 2016-01-02
Wow, now that sure is a lot of assumptions now isn't it?
1 BingoRage 2016-01-02
No. The pile smoldered, therefore there was air supplied to the fire. We can see the pictures of big chunks of steel being pulled from the pile, so we know there was structure in the pile and they weren't just ground down to compacted dust. I just saw a pic of firemen wading knee deep in water, so I know the pile was draining. There are multiple observations that can be made by looking at the pics. Telling yourself, that the pile was an anaerobic environment isn't even assuming, it's delusional.
0 giantfrogfish 2016-01-02
So there was molten steel and water ? What are you saying!
0 BingoRage 2016-01-02
"So there was molten steel and water ? What are you saying!"
("Oh, it's so confusing! What do those big words mean?") Not in the exact same location in spacetime, dumbass.
2 giantfrogfish 2016-01-02
Hey no name calling I'm his trying to make sure you all got your story straight there are a million questions anyone toting the party line should be prepared to answer. This isn't my way or the high way this is a search for the truth.
0 BingoRage 2016-01-02
"search for the truth" is not synonymous with things like "denying fire"
1 no1113 2016-01-02
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3z6ex9/jet_fuel_cant_melt_steel_beams/cyk5b34
3 luckinator 2016-01-02
I think it could melt steel, if enough air were mixed with it. Let's say when the planes hit the Towers, they created a situation where huge amounts of air were funneled up through small openings, raising the temperature of the fire significantly. It's the blast furnace effect, and why all blacksmith's forges have bellows.
But even if we assume that the steel was not melted, we know that all it needed to be was softened, in order for it to collapse and bring the Towers down.
1 giantfrogfish 2016-01-02
How about tower 7?
1 executive_fish 2016-01-02
The jet fuel didnt melt the beams, the heat from the fire melted the beams
0 giantfrogfish 2016-01-02
Do you all get texts when something is posted about 11/9?
-1 BrotherSpartacus 2016-01-02
I believe some of the users just live on the new queue.
1 omenofdread 2016-01-02
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
Memes can be used as a weapon.
1 no1113 2016-01-02
I literally just right now (after a lot of Googling, actually) finally understood the reason why this is a meme to mock people that question the official narrative.
This comment helped.
However, if that comment explains the reason why the "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams" comment has been used as a meme to mock truth seekers, then...it's actually pretty stupid because while jet fuel might be strong enough to weaken steel beams enough to collapse the towers, it's certainly can't collapse the entire tower into its own damn footprint AT FREE FALL SPEED. It can't do that to one tower...to say NOTHING about it happening to two towers.
So that this statement has been used as a meme to mock people that question the state narrative...is really. Fucking. Stupid.
Mind-bogglingly stupid actually.
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1 enjoytrees 2016-01-02
I can build a fire from scratch hot enough to melt metal in a couple of hours. The molten steel came from the furnace that was naturally created from the rubble of the towers, which as far as I know was on fire for a few days.
0 BrotherSpartacus 2016-01-02
A Classified Weapon destroyed The WTC on 9/11.
0 jacks1000 2016-01-02
Do you have any evidence of that? What sort of "classified weapon?"
How did you find out about this "classified weapon" anyway?
0 BrotherSpartacus 2016-01-02
That is classified.
0 jacks1000 2016-01-02
In other words, "I'm just making up bullshit."
-3 BrotherSpartacus 2016-01-02
You are not worth my life.
Does classified information on 9/11 exist?
1 jacks1000 2016-01-02
You must have a lot of free time on your hands, to make up bullshit and post it on reddit.
I guess people need something to live for.
-3 BrotherSpartacus 2016-01-02
Does classified information on 9/11 exist? It is a very simple question.
1 jacks1000 2016-01-02
Why are you making up silly stories about 9/11? It is a very simple question.
-4 BrotherSpartacus 2016-01-02
Why are you not answering my simple question?
Does classified information on 9/11 exist?
1 jacks1000 2016-01-02
Why are you not answering my simple question?
0 BrotherSpartacus 2016-01-02
Does classified information on 9/11 exist?
1 jacks1000 2016-01-02
I didn't neglect any of those, but in fact, mentioned the contents of the buildings as fuels.
Of course none of those burn hot enough to cause molten steel for weeks afterward.