Cannabidiol or CBD is a non-psychotropic medical miracle for many. That's why the establishment is trying hard to wrest it from our hands. See the evidence and medical fraud reaction.
383 2016-01-04 by 911bodysnatchers322
One thing I find aggravating is the fact that CBD oil was available for sale on amazon a year or two ago, and now it's gone. Why? I thought it was legal? Oh. I just found this. Apparently it's only legal in 15 states.
This is very strange because I thought CBD was not federally controlled (ie: not on the DEA schedule), so only cannabis-derived CBD was illegal as it would likely contain minute amounts of THC. This is how they are able to continue to sell hemp-oil which contains CBD, federally.
Is CBD too far removed from delta9THC to fall under the analogue-act? If so, it's non-psychotropic, so then everything else that's non-psychotropic in cannabis would also be illegal along with endocannabinoids produced in your brain, which means all sorts of other substances in for example butter would be illegal too by transitive equality. I thought the line was drawn with psychotropic substances as outlined by the UN 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Substances, to inform country policy on what was and was not or what should or what should not be deemed unlawful or society-threatening.
This whole CBD thing is a mess. But it's getting messier:
As pointed /u/axolotl_peyotl out, the government is targetting nuns for making CBD oil in a state where cannabis is legal. Think about it -- why they would do that?
The establishment is fighting back against a non-psychotropic and therefore non-abusable drug derived from cannabis--Cannabidiol or commonly referred to as CBD. Why are they fighting it?
Several reasons.
Primarly because it works, which I will irrefutably demonstrate below using the establishment's own work as sole evidence. (This kind of research is just too easy, all it takes is time, formatting and the right keywords. google.com&query?=site:nih.gov cannabidiol -- yes, it's that easy and even a goof like myself can do it.) And given the irrefutable fact of CBD actually working, they know this will disintermediate the profits of the pharmaceutical, medical insurance, pharmacy-lobbying, military-defense industries.
Without going into too-long a discussion of how the pharmaceutial industry's pillmongering helps the insurance industry and military-industrial complex, suffice it to say that despite the spending and loss involved in paying for clients'/civilians' pills, these spendings only serve to justify an even greater coverage of said spending/loss. This means to the insurance industry, greatly increased premiums to maintain even higher rates of revenue. Whereas to the military, this means asking for larger congressional budget for continued occupation of Afghanistan which then acts as a catalyst to ever more power, backchannel bribery and covert drug-dealing in the dubious shadows of the overt, legit dealings.
I'll cut the crap. This is about heroin and painkillers, a hundreds of billion dollars a year industry. Competing with them. Making them irrelevant and without causing addictions or creating permanent customers.
Secondarily, it's about curing cancer, epilepsy and a host of other medical concerns.
Tertiarily, it's about control and not letting people be in charge of their own health with a powerful OTC supplement that actually works for so many things, because that would cause them not to go to the doctor as often or use as many pharma pills.
Quaternarily?, it's about KONTROL--they don't want to cross that slipperly slope of giving people even the idea of using herbs to heal themselves, because then they'd start to question the whole authoritative hierarchies of medical control that would have us give up our power over ourselves to them, forever, only trusting what *they have to say, never ourselves. Only doing what they want us to do, even if it hurts or even kills us. They don't want to go down that road so they viciously attack anything that sounds like this straight away, and try to destroy it as quickly as it starts to show up, like a cancer.
Our empowerment in self-healing is cancer to them.
Here's how we know >>>
It's not a street drug, is non-psychotropic and thus can't be abused
- Cannabidiol, a Major Non-Psychotropic Cannabis Constituent Enhances Fracture Healing and Stimulates Lysyl Hydroxylase Activity in Osteoblasts. -- forget the fact that it heals bone fractures, take from this that they said themselves at NIH that CBD is nonpsychotropic. That is point #1.
Point #2 is that NIH also soundly and properly demonstrated it has acceptable medical uses below in many different areas proving it is not a substance with no medical use, and that CBD is a naturally-occurring molecule in an unaltered plant that is therefore unpatentable, which means it cannot be evaluated as a prescription nor can it be thus prescribed. This makes it an OTC supplement, which it should legally remain, unless the Federal Government wishes to contradict itself, betraying a deep corruption for everyone to plainly witness:
Discussion of various medical merits of CBD
"The last five years have shown a remarkable increase in publications on cannabidiol mainly stimulated by the discovery of its
- anti-inflammatory,
- anti-oxidative and
- neuroprotective effects.
These studies have suggested a wide range of possible therapeutic effects of cannabidiol on several conditions, including
- Parkinson's disease,
- Alzheimer's disease,
- cerebral ischemia,
- diabetes,
- rheumatoid arthritis,
- other inflammatory diseases,
- nausea and
- cancer."[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18833429]
- Cannabidiol in Humans—The Quest for Therapeutic Targets -- discusses the many ongoing studies of low/high dose monotherapy and in combination with delta9thc.
Specifics
Cancer
- Cannabidiol as potential anticancer drug -- "Collectively, the non-psychoactive plant-derived cannabinoid CBD exhibits pro-apoptotic and anti-proliferative actions in different types of tumours and may also exert anti-migratory, anti-invasive, anti-metastatic and perhaps anti-angiogenic properties. On the basis of these results, evidence is emerging to suggest that CBD is a potent inhibitor of both cancer growth and spread."
- The combination of cannabidiol and Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol enhances the anticancer effects of radiation in an orthotopic murine glioma model. -- "High-grade glioma is one of the most aggressive cancers in adult humans and long-term survival rates are very low as standard treatments for glioma remain largely unsuccessful. Cannabinoids have been shown to specifically inhibit glioma growth as well as neutralize oncogenic processes such as angiogenesis" -- "Holy sh_t."
- Cannabidiol as potential anticancer drug.
- The effects of cannabidiol and its synergism with bortezomib in multiple myeloma cell lines. A role for transient receptor potential vanilloid type-2. --"...we investigated the effects of CBD and BORT in CD138+TRPV2- MM cells and in MM cell lines transfected with TRPV2 (CD138+TRPV2+). These results showed that CBD by itself or in synergy with BORT strongly inhibited growth, arrested cell cycle progression and induced MM cells death by regulating the ERK, AKT and NF-κB pathways with major effects in TRPV2+ cells."
- Inhibition of colon carcinogenesis by a standardized Cannabis sativa extract with high content of cannabidiol. -- "CBD BDS attenuates colon carcinogenesis and inhibits colorectal cancer cell proliferation via CB1 and CB2 receptor activation. The results may have some clinical relevance for the use of Cannabis-based medicines in cancer patients."
Anxiety, anti-psychotic / psychiatric activity
- A systematic review of the antipsychotic properties of cannabidiol in humans. -- "The first small-scale clinical studies with CBD treatment of patients with psychotic symptoms further confirm the potential of CBD as an effective, safe and well-tolerated antipsychotic compound, although large randomised clinical trials will be needed before this novel therapy can be introduced into clinical practice."
- A critical review of the antipsychotic effects of cannabidiol: 30 years of a translational investigation. --"These results support the idea that CBD may be a future therapeutic option in psychosis, in general and in schizophrenia, in particular."
- Antipsychotic-like effects of cannabidiol and rimonabant: systematic review of animal and human studies. -- "The results predominantly confirm the hypothesis of an antipsychotic activity of both cannabinoids. In comparison, cannabidiol appears to be superior to rimonabant with a pharmacological profile similar to atypical antipsychotic drugs."
- Antidepressant-like and anxiolytic-like effects of cannabidiol: a chemical compound of Cannabis sativa. -- "[tests]...suggest that CBD exhibited an anti-anxiety and antidepressant effects in animal models discussed."
- Action of cannabidiol on the anxiety and other effects produced by delta 9-THC in normal subjects. --" It was verified that CBD blocks the anxiety provoked by delta 9-THC, however this effect also extended to marihuana-like effects and to other subjective alterations induced by delta 9-THC." -- This is why overly paranoid people prefer Indica variety for their higher proprotion of CBD to THC, something that's been known literally forever, but now verified via NIH.
- Medical use of cannabis. Cannabidiol: a new light for schizophrenia? -- Behavioural and neurochemical models suggest that CBD has a pharmacological profile similar to that of atypical anti-psychotic drugs and a clinical trial reported that this cannabinoid is a well-tolerated alternative treatment for schizophrenia.
- Decreased glial reactivity could be involved in the antipsychotic-like effect of cannabidiol. -- "Both the behavioral disruptions and the changes in expression of glial markers induced by MK-801 treatment were attenuated by repeated treatment with CBD or clozapine. These data reinforces the proposal that CBD may induce antipsychotic-like effects."
Inflammation, Immune system, Neuroprotective, Arthitis
- Cannabidiol and (−)Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol are neuroprotective antioxidants -- "The nonpsychoactive marijuana constituent cannabidiol was found to prevent both glutamate neurotoxicity and ROS-induced cell death."
- Cannabidiol exerts sebostatic and antiinflammatory effects on human sebocytes. -- "Collectively, our findings suggest that, due to the combined lipostatic, antiproliferative, and antiinflammatory effects, CBD has potential as a promising therapeutic agent for the treatment of acne vulgaris."
Epilepsy, neurological disorders
- Molecular Targets of Cannabidiol in Neurological Disorders.
- Cannabidiol: pharmacology and potential therapeutic role in epilepsy and other neuropsychiatric disorders. -- "Some suspect an existence of synergy or "entourage effect" between CBD and THC." (you need the whole herb) The scientific data support the role of the endocannabinoid system in seizure generation, maintenance, and control in animal models of epilepsy. There are clear data for the negative effects of cannabis on the developing and mature brain though these effects appear to be relatively mild in most cases."
- Cannabis, cannabidiol, and epilepsy--from receptors to clinical response. --
- Cannabidiol for neurodegenerative disorders: important new clinical applications for this phytocannabinoid? -- "The neuroprotective potential of CBD, based on the combination of its anti-inflammatory and anti-oxidant properties, is of particular interest and is presently under intense preclinical research in numerous neurodegenerative disorders."
- Cannabidiol: a promising drug for neurodegenerative disorders?
- Cannabidiol: Promise and Pitfalls -- "At this time, there does seem to be a growing body of basic pharmacologic data suggesting there may be a role for CBD, especially in the treatment of refractory epilepsy." Going on to say it needs better clinical trials.
- Perceived efficacy of cannabidiol-enriched cannabis extracts for treatment of pediatric epilepsy: A potential role for infantile spasms and Lennox-Gastaut syndrome. -- Eighty-five percent (85%) of all parents reported a reduction in seizure frequency, and 14% reported complete seizure freedom
- Chronic administration of cannabidiol to healthy volunteers and epileptic patients. -- "All patients and volunteers tolerated CBD very well and no signs of toxicity or serious side effects were detected on examination... The potential use of CBD as an antiepileptic drug and its possible potentiating effect on other antiepileptic drugs are discussed."
- Hypnotic and antiepileptic effects of cannabidiol. -- "Fifteen patients suffering from secondary generalized epilepsy refractory to known antiepileptic drugs received either 200 to 300 mg cannabidiol daily or placebo for as long as 4.5 months. Seven out of the eight epileptics receiving cannabidiol had improvement of their disease state, whereas only one placebo patient improved."
- Cannabidiol in medicine: a review of its therapeutic potential in CNS disorders. -- "However, it is well established that CBD produces its biological effects without exerting significant intrinsic activity upon cannabinoid receptors. For this reason, CBD lacks the unwanted psychotropic effects characteristic of marijuana derivatives" --- Again, non-psychotropic mention
- Effects of cannabidiol in the treatment of patients with Parkinson's disease: an exploratory double-blind trial. -- "Our findings point to a possible effect of CBD in improving quality of life measures in PD patients with no psychiatric comorbidities;"
- Open label evaluation of cannabidiol in dystonic movement disorders. -- "CBD appears to have antidystonic and Parkinsonism-aggravating effects in humans."
Others
- Interaction of cannabidiol and alcohol in humans. -- The combination of alcohol plus CBD resulted in significantly lower blood alcohol levels compared to alcohol given alone, however, there were few differences observed between the pharmacological effects of the two alcohol conditions. Thus, the inactivity of CBD, a major marijuana constituent, on motor and mental performance and effects also extends to its interaction with alcohol." --- This is going to screw up DUI testing
- Cannabidiol enhances microglial phagocytosis via transient receptor potential (TRP) channel activation. -- I don't have a clue what this means, but I found it. Maybe you know, and can share in the comments below?
- Cannabidiol increases survival and promotes rescue of cognitive function in a murine model of cerebral malaria. -- ?
- Cannabidiol Protects against Doxorubicin-Induced Cardiomyopathy by Modulating Mitochondrial Function and Biogenesis. -- CBD is antioxidant/protective
Fails
- Controlled clinical trial of cannabidiol in Huntington's disease. -- CBD no better than placebo
The CBD Hit Job
As I've pointed out before, sometimes the scientific community falls prey to biases, but sometimes it's gamed.
A person I follow closely for government treachery is alternative media videographer and documentarian par excellence, James Corbett of CorbettReport.com. James has pointed out this behavior in science several times in his discussions of the fenagling of data in climate change models. We also know this from the GMO junk science that's been put out.
Well, friends, I believe it is yet again, more fudgery of science. This final CBD article attaches a value-judgment over the effectiveness already demonstrated by numerous of their own studies, acting to discredit all of them in one-fell-swoop.
Thus, as further evidence for CBD's beneficial effects in neurological disease emerges, there remains an urgent need to establish the molecular targets through which it exerts its therapeutic effects.
(no there doesn't, food chemist, see above mountains of work many smart people the world-round have already done.)
Here, we conducted a systematic search of the extant literature for original articles describing the molecular pharmacology of CBD. We critically appraised the results for the validity of the molecular targets proposed.
(and you have credentials to evaluate those? Are any of you neurologists or pharmacologists? I see 2 food chemists)
Thereafter, we considered whether the molecular targets of CBD identified hold therapeutic potential in relevant neurological diseases. The molecular targets identified include numerous classical ion channels, receptors, transporters, and enzymes. Some CBD effects at these targets in in vitro assays only manifest at high concentrations, which may be difficult to achieve in vivo, particularly given CBD's relatively poor bioavailability. Moreover, several targets were asserted through experimental designs that demonstrate only correlation with a given target rather than a causal proof. When the molecular targets of CBD that were physiologically plausible were considered for their potential for exploitation in neurological therapeutics, the results were variable. In some cases, the targets identified had little or no established link to the diseases considered. In others, molecular targets of CBD were entirely consistent with those already actively exploited in relevant, clinically used, neurological treatments. Finally, CBD was found to act upon a number of targets that are linked to neurological therapeutics but that its actions were not consistent withmodulation of such targets that would derive a therapeutically beneficial outcome.
Note the date, Oct 2015: Molecular Targets of Cannabidiol in Neurological Disorders. -- The researchers in this rubbish article are in 1) University Food/Nutritional Science and 2) Pharmaceuticals companies "Narrowmind" "Broadmind Ltd" and GW (bush) Pharmaceuticals in the UK. Yet they have something to say of the effectiveness of all the other studies, and in particular in neurology. JUNK SCIENCE. Value Judgment. UK. "We're being paid to protect Her Majesties Royal heroin lines!" (Also, for those who like the synchronicities: "Whiteknights") Here's my take:
BUT BUT
- Anecdotal!!
- Poor bioavailability!! and
- Correlation not causation!!
- Results were variable!!
- Target identified had no justification!!
- But we already have stuff for that disease!! (egggg-zacktly)
- Acts on too many targets!!
- Too weak to work neurologically!! -- (oh yeah? F you http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23109356)
Talk about a pharmacological hit-job. One that tries to undo all the links above. Why do you think they continue to study CBD? Why are people uprooting their families and moving to Colorado because it is legal and they can no longer buy CBD on amazon? (NOTE: they made it federally legal (cbd, via hemp oil) but now it is restricted and you can't actually buy it anymore except maybe (??) on ebay. CBD websites keep getting shut down.
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69 comments
25 stargeekearth 2016-01-04
This is my throwaway but what ever. Concentrated cbd in lotion form with coconut oil and some oils for smell will cure skin cancer.
Juicing raw foliage from cbd rich plants is also known to target crones with extreme luck.
How could I justify this knowledge? Was growing mega warehouses of OG Kush making $$$$. Switched to a special cut of harlequin that was Testing in the high 20% for cbd. Did a mega run. Made the ointments. Sold legally to dispensary. It works as advertised and we are both raided grow and completely independent dispensary on the same day. Both had our certificate of occupancy revoked by firemarshall.
They killed all the cbd didn't touch the og or look at it. We never heard from them again.
5 ItsAJackOff 2016-01-04
The more beneficial something natural is, the more the powers that be will fight tooth and nail to squirrel it away while their scientists work on a way to patent and formulate it. Sad but true. Fight on Brother/Sister, get back on the horse, fuck em.
5 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
Man that sucks about your plants. You weren't arrested? They just busted it up?
That's like what a mafia would do.
Anyway thanks for the info on Crohns. I'll pass that on to a friend who has a pretty bad case of it (he's dying from it, actually). What is harlequin? A strain of cannabis? Also what is OG? I'm sorry I'm not that sophisticated with these terms. I just know the indica strain blueberry is something I love and sour diesel kush is something I will leave to the others (too intense for me)
8 stargeekearth 2016-01-04
Harlequin is a sativa dominant strain of medical marijuana that finishes flowering in 9 weeks. Grows like an indica which means more short and bushy than tall and thin.
We were breaking ground in thc-v research which targets depression. A successful cross of tahoe og and Chem-D spit out a seed that would later test 19% thc-v. We traded this cut to Harborside in Oakland who in turn blessed us with the special cut of harlequin.
Took me about a year to dial everything in with the cut for mass production. Then we started in on the the ointments. I had a neighbor with chrones so I grew him a mini mom that could produce all the clones he needed. He grew up the mom and made 45 clones. The idea is to leave them on 18 hour lights on and 6 off. This prevents them from flowering or making buds.
So with a rotation of 45 he can strip one a day of all its foliage. Cbd is very rich in the fans. Then turn that into his daily morning juice. When 30 days go by your flock will be twice the size. They love being pruned. Changed his life. I get a Christmas card every year.
We were all legal, by the book. Had lawyer in every county we serviced on retainer. When we got raided our lawyers were there in 5 minutes. They took care of everything and we moved on. But it's a wild coincidence.
1 CP_16 2016-01-04
Has the Tahoe/Chemdawg been named yet?
2 stargeekearth 2016-01-04
I named it Chem-T. Others have called it LemonDawg because it's almost pure lemon taste but smells like nag champa incense.
1 Jihonron 2016-01-04
So, what are some good ways of getting a source for CBD? CBD oil is legal where i live. There are brans like medihemp, where a 10ml bottle costs between 60 - 70 €. Can you recommend a better alternative or is a price like this perfectly reasonable? How much of a concentration would you recommend?
1 discount_timetravel 2016-01-04
ol harls is goood shit
13 ChangeThroughTruth 2016-01-04
Thank you for this, great work!
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
:) thank you for the positive feedback
12 ItsAJackOff 2016-01-04
When you enter the realm of "medicine" you tread upon a monopoly existing over 100 years. Medicine, in and of itself, has been monopolized, and long before that it was deemed that petroleum based products would be the basis for most modern medicines. Go figure. People talk shit about Rothschild, and rightfully so, but let us not forget the great things Rockefeller did in the name of capitalism and freedom. Certain substances can make these shackles almost weightless, but at the end of the day, so long as the shackles remain, we're still enslaved. Look at who buys off our government (not just Israel by a long shot), and it should make sense why our government represents the will of the corporate person and not the living person.
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
David Rockefeller is one serious basterd, maybe his kids have more sense than him
2 wanktown 2016-01-04
Nope.
8 Amos_Quito 2016-01-04
Excellent post.
It's a pity that most people won't read it, as these days attention spans are so short that their eyes glaze over on anything that's longer than a sentence or two.
6 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
I know.
They'll post a 9/11 thing we've known about for over 7 yrs and get more upvotes. But that's ok. I wrote this for both myself and for you.
3 Wh1teCr0w 2016-01-04
I agree man, great writeup and sources. Sadly this sub really lacks such quality. Change can only follow information, so we need to get it out there as much as possible.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
I agree. And thanks for the feedback.
7 CointellBro 2016-01-04
Imagine a world where heroin is legalized and marijuana remains illegal. Also imagine that this world is full of people who didn't even know that heroin was legal. Does this sound crazy? We basically live in that world right now.
Oxycodone, or "OxyContin" is structurally and functionally very similar to morphine and heroin. There are many other similar legal opiates, each providing a gateway to the next, until you are basically doing heroin every day.
Big Pharma saw the profits from heroin sales and couldn't resist.
Most patients still prescribed opioids after nonfatal overdose, study finds
Another link: http://www.boston.com/health/2015/12/29/most-patients-still-given-prescriptions-for-opioids-after-nonfatal-opioid-overdoses-study-finds/pAFy25DBWxG6cQOitj6avN/story.html
16,235 opiod pain reliever-related deaths in 2013
8,200 heroin related deaths in 2013
5 darkrom 2016-01-04
While opiates are dangerous and addicting factually, they are also the strongest analgesic medications we have. I'm a huge fan of cbd but don't demonize some of the most effective medication in the world just because it is dangerous and abusable.
4 CointellBro 2016-01-04
Pointing out facts = "demonizing opiates." They kill thousands of people per year and remain legal and widely available, while marijuana remains federally illegal.
3 darkrom 2016-01-04
Yes an opiates help likely millions of people each year, who have no to mild side effects. There are also people who act like junkies from weed and smoke 10+ oz a month etc. Don't get me wrong, cannabis is a miracle and will be legal, I just didn't like how some people seemingly want opiates gone completely. I know plenty of elderly or sick people who would probably blow their own brains out to stop the pain, if it wasn't for opiates.
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
The other thing that opiates (medical painkillers) do is they tear up your stomach with ulceration. This is not often talked about in the news or television, but often talked about among people who take these substances over the long term.
This is really where CBD shines. It's a painkiller that doesn't tear up your stomach and may actually fix many other maladies in the body as well.
Of course, as a painkiller it absolutely cannot compare to morphine because they act differently:
morphine makes all sensation go away--it numbs the nerves until the signal is effectively gone.
CBD mutates the sensation so that it's not painful anymore but rather a really 'strong vibrating sensation'. Which means effectively that it changes your perception of pain (nociception) so that you continue to perceive it, can analyze it, and relate to the pain in a different way than out of fear and suffering.
Ultimately making a different relationship to the pain may be better because it allows you to 'take better care and caution' with the damage to the body so you don't further injure it. (This is the reason they say you shouldn't take painkillers while hiking because you risk actually damaging yourself more if you don't 'understand what you're body is telling you). For these reasons I believe CBD to be a superior painkiller than opiates by far.
2 yo_me_paspali 2016-01-04
Yes, once or twice until they begin causing the pain you're trying to kill. I wasted more than ten years in that trap.
1 darkrom 2016-01-04
Not something that always happens, or has to happen though.
4 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
Have you ever heard of the silk road? I'm not talking about the darkweb site that was busted a couple of times but the real one? Well, that's what we're defending in afghanistan actually, only it's the silk, gold and oil road. And by silk I mean spice and by spice I mean drugs.
The people who are pulling the fast one on us all are the same ones that descended from pirates and alchemists, con men who've always dealt in gold, guns and spice on the sea. The spicer-saints of Malta--wicked basterds who don't want anyone to have the fun they're having directly from the misery of millions
3 CointellBro 2016-01-04
Got a link? That sounds like a fun rabbit hole.
1 ItsAJackOff 2016-01-04
While we wait for a link I would like to add that many dynasty style families and "groups" often stick to what they know best. Just like the OGs of international banking are pretty much still the OGs of international banking to this day.
-1 wanktown 2016-01-04
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road
2 ItoAy 2016-01-04
Imagine a world where "Freedom fighters" guard fields of enslaving opium in Afghanistan. Go to YouTube and search Geraldo opium.
6 ItoAy 2016-01-04
Taking CBD for peripheral neuropathy and have cut my Gabapentin intake in half. If I could get economical edibles I might be able to eliminate it. Thanks for the article.
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4 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
I hate what they are doing. Glad to know CBD is working for you.
We need to create an open source molecular fabricator (3D printer for molecules) that can make any molecule you send it. Then make the open source 3D printer plans to make the fabricator because you know they'll make them illegal as soon as they know consumers could get them.
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
Wow. I'm starting to develop that. Where do you get your CBD? Are you in a non-stupid state?
5 curiosity36 2016-01-04
I know a solid place selling it: cbdlife.info
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
Thanks for that link! I'm on the site now. I really liked the DIXIE cbd stuff, but their site was recently hacked and it looks like they have no interest in bringing it back up. That's what got me on this crusade.
-1 Gekko463 2016-01-04
Dixie was selling the heavy metal and solvent contaminated tar that MJNA manufactured in Czecloslovakia with hemp grown to clean a toxic waste dump. They were selling (and evidently you were consuming) a filthy impure product made by folks on their way to prison soon. (Mike Llamas, of MJNA). (See my other post for links further down).
Do not break your arm patting yourself on the back for this post. Medicine is made in FDA approved GMP compliant laboratories for a reason: so Mobsters like Llamas and Mona and Kleber from Dixie are not allowed to make heavy metal and solvent contaminated goo and sell it to idiots like you calling it "medicine".
Without laws and well capitalized corporations making pure medicines, you get snake oil made from piss and mercury and snake venom masquerading as cannabis extracts bcause there is nobody there to stop the gangsters from selling shit to idiots like you along side the soulful hippies doing their best to make a pure product in their Mom's garages.
I am a CBD proponant. Everybody thinks it's magical shit, but it is just weed with the parts that get you high removed. If you dont mind getting high, save your money and consume whole cannabis.
People are so gullible. Particularly you, OP. We need the FDA and REAL drug companies to make our drugs so we don't get dosed with heavy metals like YOU did consuming Dixie products made from Czech hemp and sold by pump and dump artists and charletaines like Trip Kleber.
1 yo_me_paspali 2016-01-04
Found the MPP operator.
0 Gekko463 2016-01-04
Nope. You found the guy working in the legitimate industrial hemp business for the last 12 years. Why do you think I know all those names and details?
1 yo_me_paspali 2016-01-04
So in other words, the "entrenched interest."
You've already become the enemy and don't even recognize it. The tragedy of character fully distilled.
No, mankind will not be best served by monopolizing nature to make you rich.
1 yo_me_paspali 2016-01-04
Also, in life, name dropping and social climbing are on par with one another. Head's up.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
Don't worry Gekko, you've been added to the blacklist. We will follow you around now and discredit everything you say. Say hi to the queen for me.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
Ok, well you just outed yourself as a shill and stalker. The use of this 'patting yourself' phrase is the key. I made another post several pages deep that ends with 'patting myself on the back', so you obviously went fairly deep into my history just to find some stuff to make a personal attack---your reference to this specific idiomatic indicator says that you're aim is to actually come in here take a big shit on me and try to discredit purposefully.
Problem is: it won't work. I'm smarter, and so is everyone else around you here.
edit: Also, you went kind of crazy on this dixie thing. I've actually never consumed a dixie product. I was thinking about it as they looked like a legit site, and so had them bookmarked. I went back there to buy something and coulnd't because your friends at the nsa / mafia had hacked their site. I just used that one example because it was the first one I came across in my bookmarks.
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1 curiosity36 2016-01-04
I think Bidiol is synthetic and more powerful, but I'm not sure.
5 Gekko463 2016-01-04
GMP. Good Manufacturing Practices. Anybody know what that is? It is the set of cleanliness and purity standards that any manufacturing facility making medicines must pass to be able to sell their medecines under the "Clean Food and Drug Act".
Most of the "Hemp Oil" that was being sold on Amazon had a single origin: Medical Marijuana Incorporated in San Diego. They bought tons and tons of hemp in Eastern Europe and sold a crudely refined impure tar and called it "CBD oil". Lab tests repeatedly found it to be contaminated with both heavy metals and solvent residues. (Growing hemp is actually used to clean heavy metals from contaminated sites--but then you make hempcrete out of it, not fucking medecine!)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2014/03/26/high-times-inside-the-pot-stock-bubble/
The Pro-CBD organization, Project CBD actually exposed the shite these evil fuckers were selling as medecine for kids: https://www.projectcbd.org/article/hemp-oil-hustlers
Long story (read those articles) short: if you are not investing hundreds of thousands of dollars to meet GMP, you can't make fucking asprin to sell to other people! You are not making pure, clean medicine if you do not meet GMP. You are making homemade shitty hash oil of unknown purity. Consume it yourself all you like. But dont think you can legally sell it to other people. You can't.
Ever since Upton Sinclair wrote "The Jungle" in the early 20th century, people kinda decided they wanted clean food and drugs. So the FDA was started, and the first thing they did was set up cleanliness standards--and setting up procedures so that if (when, it happened often) a guy fell into the hotdog meat grinder, they couldn't go ahead and sell the hotdogs anyway as they did before there was an FDA.
I am sure the folks here bragging about how great their strains and their homemade oil is have the best of intentions.
But if you are allowed to make medecine in your garage and sell it to little kids, then we have to let Mike Mona Jr. and Mike Llamas and Stuart Titus and the other mobsters who give no fucks sell heavy metal and solvent laden shit to people and call it medecine as well.
Or you can all just accept the 100 year old fact that it is best to let well capitalized businesses with the money to meet GMP standards make pure, clean medecine. And that is underway.
No conspiracy here. You would not want to give what was being sold on Amazon to your dog, much less your child. That is why it is gone. Not because it is CBD---but because it had mercury and formaldehyde in it. Because the FDA didn't check it. When they checked it, it was removed from sale because it was poison.
2 yo_me_paspali 2016-01-04
GMP does not require the monolithic FDA, and their regulatory compliance regime is abhorrent. It is absolutely laughable.
My liver thanks you for the Tylenol, FDA.
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
FDA, USDA are all corrupt. They only have an interest in giving the appearance of safety and their own due diligence which they can pass off to private parties to do for them as plausible deniability should something go awry (like the aceteminophen issue you mentioned). Because of this, they work for industry, not the people.
1 merryman1 2016-01-04
Thank you, a well written response! If big business were so averse to cannabinoid medicines they wouldn't be adopting them into the industry... GW Pharma to use just a single example!
0 Gekko463 2016-01-04
GW is straight up, legit, around for like 15 or 20 years, works with the FDA.
If Monsanto or Altria decide to buy in, that is what they buy.
Legitimacy.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
Hemp oil is not a medicine. It's a food and a supplement.
Supplements aren't medicines. That's why they have the universal disclaimer that they are not intended to diagnose, treat any illness.
Vitamin C is not a medicine.
Doctors can still prescribe supplements and supplements have medicinal qualities but they can't make medicinal claims per the FDAs policy.
Quit conflating the two. People would do well to see gekko's previous post here
https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3zgj35/cannabidiol_or_cbd_is_a_nonpsychotropic_medical/cymnivj
ALso, if you are true believer in the free market, what you do is you let anyone play with the requirement of having an independent third party assay your product and you have to publish the results. You don't need the FDA, except maybe to evaluate the evaluators (chemical labs who do the assaying).
1 Gekko463 2016-01-04
"And you have to publish..."
If you "have to", who "makes you" if there is not a regulatory body like the FDA to "make you"?
I love arguing with dumb stoners. Please come armed next time there's a battle of wit and knowledge.
4 Biggins123 2016-01-04
Great post mate, it's a shame that stuff like this doesn't get thousands of upvotes and front page attention
4 JamesColesPardon 2016-01-04
Sticky required
4 merryman1 2016-01-04
Great point but I want to raise a usual quibble I have with the CBD-mania. People are very insistent that it is a non-psychoactive molecule yet it has been clearly demonstrated to invoke behavioural changes in rat models and is being explored as a potential anxiolytic and anti-depressant. These are properties of psychoactive molecules.
Couple that with the demonstrated binding affinities to both 5-HT1a and 5-HT2a receptors and I'm not sure you really can argue that it has no effect on one's consciousness. Not that this is a bad thing of course, daily smoker myself and very disappointed that the use of Cannabis is not more widespread!
3 clitarus 2016-01-04
Who knows what else it might do, it could also extend the life oil or gasoline.
Rumors have been around for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0PJfUpaKu8&feature=youtu.be&t=394
Anyone ever melt shatter in gasoline and used it in your lawnmower?
1 SlumberMachine 2016-01-04
The stickyness itself must have many potential uses.
1 clitarus 2016-01-04
Ding.
0 911bodysnatchers322 2016-01-04
haha kids in the hall.
3 balckcvae 2016-01-04
I thought sativa would have been the preferred strain because it is more of a mindful euphoria rather than a couch lock state induced by indica varieties.
However you are right, indica strains produce more cbd in proportion to thc compared to sativa plants. There are hybrid strains now with mixed genes to produce more balanced effects.
Some more reading:
"Many people choose to medicate with a combination of different strains. The ‘high’ effects of Sativa strains make them a better choice during the day, when wakefulness is desirable, whereas the relaxing effects of Indica varieties often make them more suitable for evening and nighttime use. Hybrid strains can offer the best of both worlds to many patients but may be less suited to others. "
http://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/about-sensi-seeds/sensi-seeds-and-medicinal-cannabis/how-to-choose-a-medicinal-cannabis-strain/
3 Osziris 2016-01-04
wow man nice job
2 Sullistrate 2016-01-04
i wish i could get my hands on some for my father
2 Fuckyousantorum 2016-01-04
Can you recommend a brand? My mum suffers from chronic pain and I may be able to convince her to try this as its legal.
2 kerrymti1 2016-01-04
As someone who suffers from AVN in both hips (top of femurs), both femurs (mid-sections), both knee joints and my left tibia, I am dealing with a tremendous amount of pain. If I could get ahold of some, I am told it would assist the pain meds to help me control the pain. Shame I can't get it where I live.
2 tito333 2016-01-04
There definitely is some force at work. In Amsterdam the first CBD shop opened about a year ago, and then almost got run out by a tobacco conglomerate who wanted to buy them out. https://www.smokersguide.com/news/81/europe_s_1st_medical_marijuana_cbd_shop___the_cbd.html#.Vos5ecrkfdR
2 NonThinkingPeeOn 2016-01-04
Big pharma's not gonna allow mother nature's beauty and simplicity to be utilized by the citizens of earth. Ban all plants! Ban all mushrooms! Ban all trees and grass. It's a plant and it grows in the soil of the free earth. Who gets to take claim over the earth? Big pharmacy does and the government.
2 realstonned 2016-01-04
Yes I agree 100% but CBD isn't the only cannabinoid that is good! Everything imo goes into what your suffering from!
1 Golisten2LennyWhite 2016-01-04
amazing post.
1 batterrier 2016-01-04
Thanks for your work on this. Amazing post.
1 cheezneezy 2016-01-04
You the the man op
1 Spitinthacoola 2016-01-04
You make some decent points, but you fall prey to the common mistake of taking things we have evidence for, and jumping to things we don't have evidence for.
1 marriedmygun 2016-01-04
Once again, a conspiracy thread about morons doing whatever drug they can get their hands on.
I'll choose to remain drug free, thanks.
1 TedsHead 2016-01-04
Great article. Marijuana remains Schedule I because its deemed easy to become addicted to and abuse, despite its obvious medical benefits. By that logic, Oxycontin and other opiates should be deemed Schedule I and they are not. This fact proves the cover-up and alternative reasonings (financial and control) for keeping it Schedule I.
1 Jihonron 2016-01-04
So, what are some good ways of getting CBD without THC? I live in a european country where CBD oil is legal. Do you have any knowledge that goes in this direction? How much CBD/day should the intake be to reap all the effects. Some of the studies used daily doses of 300mg in their tests which would be quite expensive.
Edit: Excellent post btw.
8 stargeekearth 2016-01-04
Harlequin is a sativa dominant strain of medical marijuana that finishes flowering in 9 weeks. Grows like an indica which means more short and bushy than tall and thin.
We were breaking ground in thc-v research which targets depression. A successful cross of tahoe og and Chem-D spit out a seed that would later test 19% thc-v. We traded this cut to Harborside in Oakland who in turn blessed us with the special cut of harlequin.
Took me about a year to dial everything in with the cut for mass production. Then we started in on the the ointments. I had a neighbor with chrones so I grew him a mini mom that could produce all the clones he needed. He grew up the mom and made 45 clones. The idea is to leave them on 18 hour lights on and 6 off. This prevents them from flowering or making buds.
So with a rotation of 45 he can strip one a day of all its foliage. Cbd is very rich in the fans. Then turn that into his daily morning juice. When 30 days go by your flock will be twice the size. They love being pruned. Changed his life. I get a Christmas card every year.
We were all legal, by the book. Had lawyer in every county we serviced on retainer. When we got raided our lawyers were there in 5 minutes. They took care of everything and we moved on. But it's a wild coincidence.
0 Gekko463 2016-01-04
GW is straight up, legit, around for like 15 or 20 years, works with the FDA.
If Monsanto or Altria decide to buy in, that is what they buy.
Legitimacy.
1 curiosity36 2016-01-04
I think Bidiol is synthetic and more powerful, but I'm not sure.