Jose Chung's From Outer Space, easily one of the best episodes of the entire series. When Mulder is eating pie and asking questions I almost die every time.
but then they said that that chick and scully had alien DNA...and that's what the whistleblowers say. the good ETs were shot down in Roswell when they came after the atomic bombs.
then the dark hats came along and offered power for a few abductions. the leaders picked the dark hats because they didn't want to give up their nuclear weapons. especially after they found out ETs could get here.
I don't see alien DNA ending up in the database that she analyzes DNA on. more like she noticed something 'alien' to the human genome. she said she sequenced the entire thing.. lol.
it doesn't make sense from a scientific point of view. they'd have to actually compare it to something to say it's alien. otherwise, it would just be an unknown/unidentified sequence.
maybe if they found different base pairs, something besides AGCT... but they were talking about sequencing.
I'm a huge X-Files fan, I grew up watching it in the 90's. I'm a bit apprehensive to watch this new series, though. From what I've read, it seems almost like propaganda to discredit any 9/11 truthers.
The old episodes were mostly about aliens and humans with supernatural abilities, entertaining science fiction stuff.
The new series is very different. 9/11 is not only the most obvious false flag in modern history, it changed the world as we know it and gave birth to the police state in the West, and the perpetual war in the Middle East.
Yes, 8pm eastern. Yesterday was just a special premier night, and tonight (Mondays at 8pm) will be the regular schedule now. Tonight is supposed to be part 2 of yesterday's premier.
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Edit: removed the changes I made for emphasis because it may have been misinterpreted.
E.G. Let us right the script for you to portray us in the best light and mislead the public into thinking that we are the best at our job.
It's funny shows like 24 show how successful enhanced interrogation is at getting the right information and this show aired 10 years before the CIA torture was ousted.
"Madame Secretary, a very quick update. I just received confirmation from 60 Minutes that a piece on Julian Assange will air Sunday night. He will be the only person featured. We had made a number of suggestions for outside experts and former diplomats to interview to "balance" the piece. 60 Minutes assures me that they raised a number of questions and concerns we planted with them during the course of the interview. We will be prepared to respond to the narrative Assange presents during the program."
It seems Operation Mockingbird is alive and well. From this Clinton email, we get a peak behind the curtain.
The government's narrative is crafted in other ways besides the news media. Take movies, for instance:
As I posted in another thread on x-files(which seems to be over taking this sub) Plauseable deniability. More and more people are questioning the stories they are being fed by main stream media. So what better way to keep them from the truth than to fill them with nostalgia . By bringing back a show people have fond memories of. They throw the truth in there so if people question it the simple answer is
oh that's a episode of x-files it can't possibly be true
Yeah, and if you read interviews about it you can tell they were crapping their pants about it at the time. They probably thought they'd be implicated by the government for one out of the hundreds of stories that they'd written.
I haven't watched TV in 4 or 5 years, but I will stream shows off the internet. My gripe with TV is the advertising. I want to watch a show, I don't want to watch 100 advertisements for shit I don't want or need and cannot afford, which breaks up the flow of a good show.
I think they were trying way too hard. Instead of a buildup it was a pile of steaming theory all thrown together at once and served on a plate of take our word for it, we don't have time to explain.
I really hope they slow down a bit and tell a story instead of shoveling it.
As a side note, watching David Duchovny's performance, I was reminded more of Zoolander's J.P. Prewitt (the hand model) than of the original Mulder.
I thought Joel McHale's character was more Glenn Beck with Alex Jones talking points. It didn't really feel genuine. They just threw a bunch of conspiracy theories at the wall like they were testing spaghetti.
The msm always tries to tear down jones by pointing out how rich he has gotten from fear mongering. Well you have to sell a shit ton of seeds and canned food to make serious money. He might be making a decent living, but for all the listeners he has, his advertisers are spending a fraction of the big corporations backing republican "libertarians" on Fox News and talk radio networks. While Alex Jones might make $1-5 million a year, Beck is bringing in over 10x that.
Mulder is clearly doubtful that the character is sincere- since he is pitching republican propaganda AND legitimate conspiracy theories.
Is it the conspiracy theories that sell, or the republican propaganda? The audience likes conspiracy theories, but the advertisers like the propaganda- and who is paying your bills at the end of the day?
I think it's a good theme for the new show, though. People are starting to "want to believe". But are the aliens real or is this all just another layer in the onion?
The conspiracy community should be tearing down Alex Jones, not the mainstream media. Whether or not he's a disinformation shill, he's become the biggest "conspiracy guy" that all the MSM outlets like to use and make fun of. When he goes on to a MSM show he makes anyone who seriously looks into and researches conspiracies look like a raving lunatic. While there may not be a united movement among conspiracy theorists (for lack of a better term), he discredits all of us.
His character is built on the right wing talk show host format. If he wasn't a fear monger, he wouldn't be as pervasive as he is. And he's not insincere.
You can take him literally every time he says "this is it, folks! They're implementing martial law NOW!", but the reality is that he sees a slow and steady march in a certain direction and his rhetoric is geared towards mobilization. Compare his rhetoric to pro-science rhetoric pushing climate change- it's really no different. How often do you see a new scientific article proving that if we don't act NOW, climate change will be irreversible?
He preaches to a choir. He's not there to change the minds of people in the opposite camp- he's speaking to people who A: believe there IS a government conspiracy, or B: feel like there's something wrong and are looking for answers about what it is.
i always figured they were supported by the powers that be and encouraged to be fanatical. it must be the ultimate turn on to get away with everything right under the whole world's noses
Good thing you didn't stay for the scene where Scully scolded everyone for talking such nonsense and more... that to even THINK of such things being tantamount to TREASON.
Scully has always been the skeptic (unless it's about religion, then she believes for some reason), The show wouldn't be as good if everybody in it was just in an echo chamber of agreement all the time. That would ruin half the drama and end most discussion.
I watched it twice. They were fairly spot on with their analysis of real world conspiracies. I also like that they are shifting from blaming it all on the Ayy Lmao aliens, to a more realistic conspiracy of secret governments experimenting on their own people, even going as far as referencing the Tuskeegie experiments. I thought it was a brilliant episode and a true return to form for one of my favorite shows. The only downside that concerns me is that people might just watch it and consider it an entertaining fiction when it is actually drawing heavily on factual conspiracies which have shaped the world we live in. The best lies are sandwiched in between a couple truths and that's how the 'fiction' of X-files works. They cite 100 real conspiracies and link them together with a more fantastic alien conspiracy.
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20 BrotherSpartacus 2016-01-25
They said it was Humans faking Aliens. You should have watched longer than a minute.
4 captain_teeth33 2016-01-25
There was a comedic episode in the original series where they actually show this happening.
3 loqi0238 2016-01-25
Jose Chung's From Outer Space, easily one of the best episodes of the entire series. When Mulder is eating pie and asking questions I almost die every time.
2 TeslasMuse 2016-01-25
but then they said that that chick and scully had alien DNA...and that's what the whistleblowers say. the good ETs were shot down in Roswell when they came after the atomic bombs.
then the dark hats came along and offered power for a few abductions. the leaders picked the dark hats because they didn't want to give up their nuclear weapons. especially after they found out ETs could get here.
1 captain_teeth33 2016-01-25
How can she know what 'alien' DNA is without comparing it to known alien DNA?
2 TeslasMuse 2016-01-25
from the prev episodes, they had an ET body
1 captain_teeth33 2016-01-25
I don't remember that one. So you're saying that alien DNA is part of the standard FBI DNA database in this show?
1 TeslasMuse 2016-01-25
grabbed the first link I found...
http://xfilesbodycount.blogspot.com/2009/12/season-8-episode-13-per-manum.html
1 captain_teeth33 2016-01-25
I don't see alien DNA ending up in the database that she analyzes DNA on. more like she noticed something 'alien' to the human genome. she said she sequenced the entire thing.. lol.
2 TeslasMuse 2016-01-25
that's just one episode, have you watched the x-files?
the alien image in the link is the alien from the show
also, wouldn't "alien" just mean "not in our database" as far as DNA is concerned?
1 captain_teeth33 2016-01-25
yes, I've seen the x-files, and no episode do they end up with hard scientific proof of aliens.
1 TeslasMuse 2016-01-25
i haven't watched them in a while, but like i said, alien DNA would just mean not in the DNA database
1 captain_teeth33 2016-01-25
it doesn't make sense from a scientific point of view. they'd have to actually compare it to something to say it's alien. otherwise, it would just be an unknown/unidentified sequence.
maybe if they found different base pairs, something besides AGCT... but they were talking about sequencing.
19 dudewtfishappening 2016-01-25
I'm a huge X-Files fan, I grew up watching it in the 90's. I'm a bit apprehensive to watch this new series, though. From what I've read, it seems almost like propaganda to discredit any 9/11 truthers.
Can't say I'm surprised though.
3 WasntThereBefore 2016-01-25
The whole show was propaganda, so I’m not sure why you’d still be a fan.
2 dudewtfishappening 2016-01-25
Nah man.
The old episodes were mostly about aliens and humans with supernatural abilities, entertaining science fiction stuff.
The new series is very different. 9/11 is not only the most obvious false flag in modern history, it changed the world as we know it and gave birth to the police state in the West, and the perpetual war in the Middle East.
1 loqi0238 2016-01-25
Well, we'll see what happens with the new episode tonight. It is going to be new, right? Not just a repeat of yesterday's premiere?
2 DronePuppet 2016-01-25
It's on again tonight?
1 loqi0238 2016-01-25
Yes, 8pm eastern. Yesterday was just a special premier night, and tonight (Mondays at 8pm) will be the regular schedule now. Tonight is supposed to be part 2 of yesterday's premier.
1 DronePuppet 2016-01-25
Ahhhh. Not sure how much more I can watch.
10 zyklorpthehuman 2016-01-25
From CIA.gov
Edit: removed the changes I made for emphasis because it may have been misinterpreted.
5 omegawarrior3 2016-01-25
E.G. Let us right the script for you to portray us in the best light and mislead the public into thinking that we are the best at our job.
It's funny shows like 24 show how successful enhanced interrogation is at getting the right information and this show aired 10 years before the CIA torture was ousted.
3 NutritionResearch 2016-01-25
Clinton email: https://reason.com/blog/2015/09/30/60-minutes-assures-me-that-they-raised-a
It seems Operation Mockingbird is alive and well. From this Clinton email, we get a peak behind the curtain.
The government's narrative is crafted in other ways besides the news media. Take movies, for instance:
Zero Dark Thirty filmmakers had cozy relationship with the CIA
As early as 1927, when military assistance on the film "Wings" helped it win Best Picture at the first Oscars ceremony, the Department of Defense has long maintained its own production office that offers filmmakers the latest in arms and high-tech vehicles at cut-rate prices -- as long as their scripts are deemed worthy.
9 munchkin_9382 2016-01-25
As I posted in another thread on x-files(which seems to be over taking this sub) Plauseable deniability. More and more people are questioning the stories they are being fed by main stream media. So what better way to keep them from the truth than to fill them with nostalgia . By bringing back a show people have fond memories of. They throw the truth in there so if people question it the simple answer is oh that's a episode of x-files it can't possibly be true
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1 munchkin_9382 2016-01-25
Posted from my phone auto corrected sorry I will fix
8 machotoast 2016-01-25
You guys are taking x-files...a show about aliens...and complaining that they are using aliens?
It's a TV show and they couldnt make a 9/11 episode back then because it was way too soon to air any episodes about it.
5 captain_teeth33 2016-01-25
they made the lone gunmen episode that was eerily prescient.
-2 nonorat 2016-01-25
Yeah, and if you read interviews about it you can tell they were crapping their pants about it at the time. They probably thought they'd be implicated by the government for one out of the hundreds of stories that they'd written.
8 omenofdread 2016-01-25
Stop watching television.
2 ruuuuuuuun 2016-01-25
Stop going on reddit.
2 DronePuppet 2016-01-25
The matrix is not real. There is no spoon!
1 ninja_gangsta_pirate 2016-01-25
I haven't watched TV in 4 or 5 years, but I will stream shows off the internet. My gripe with TV is the advertising. I want to watch a show, I don't want to watch 100 advertisements for shit I don't want or need and cannot afford, which breaks up the flow of a good show.
3 revoman 2016-01-25
It was quite interesting. BTW, it's NOT real!
2 CaucasianEagle 2016-01-25
I know that it's not real. But the memes implanted into the ignorant are most definitely real.
3 atouk_zug 2016-01-25
I think they were trying way too hard. Instead of a buildup it was a pile of steaming theory all thrown together at once and served on a plate of take our word for it, we don't have time to explain.
I really hope they slow down a bit and tell a story instead of shoveling it.
As a side note, watching David Duchovny's performance, I was reminded more of Zoolander's J.P. Prewitt (the hand model) than of the original Mulder.
2 a_shiII 2016-01-25
But why male models?
1 loqi0238 2016-01-25
Are you serious? I just told you.
2 know_comment 2016-01-25
I thought Joel McHale's character was more Glenn Beck with Alex Jones talking points. It didn't really feel genuine. They just threw a bunch of conspiracy theories at the wall like they were testing spaghetti.
The msm always tries to tear down jones by pointing out how rich he has gotten from fear mongering. Well you have to sell a shit ton of seeds and canned food to make serious money. He might be making a decent living, but for all the listeners he has, his advertisers are spending a fraction of the big corporations backing republican "libertarians" on Fox News and talk radio networks. While Alex Jones might make $1-5 million a year, Beck is bringing in over 10x that.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/glenn-beck-net-worth/
Mulder is clearly doubtful that the character is sincere- since he is pitching republican propaganda AND legitimate conspiracy theories. Is it the conspiracy theories that sell, or the republican propaganda? The audience likes conspiracy theories, but the advertisers like the propaganda- and who is paying your bills at the end of the day?
I think it's a good theme for the new show, though. People are starting to "want to believe". But are the aliens real or is this all just another layer in the onion?
1 terrorhawk_ 2016-01-25
The conspiracy community should be tearing down Alex Jones, not the mainstream media. Whether or not he's a disinformation shill, he's become the biggest "conspiracy guy" that all the MSM outlets like to use and make fun of. When he goes on to a MSM show he makes anyone who seriously looks into and researches conspiracies look like a raving lunatic. While there may not be a united movement among conspiracy theorists (for lack of a better term), he discredits all of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZvMwcluEg
2 know_comment 2016-01-25
I completely disagree.
His character is built on the right wing talk show host format. If he wasn't a fear monger, he wouldn't be as pervasive as he is. And he's not insincere.
You can take him literally every time he says "this is it, folks! They're implementing martial law NOW!", but the reality is that he sees a slow and steady march in a certain direction and his rhetoric is geared towards mobilization. Compare his rhetoric to pro-science rhetoric pushing climate change- it's really no different. How often do you see a new scientific article proving that if we don't act NOW, climate change will be irreversible?
He preaches to a choir. He's not there to change the minds of people in the opposite camp- he's speaking to people who A: believe there IS a government conspiracy, or B: feel like there's something wrong and are looking for answers about what it is.
1 loqi0238 2016-01-25
Alex Jones is America's David Icke.
3 TeslasMuse 2016-01-25
david icke is finally toning it down some...
1 loqi0238 2016-01-25
Maybe, but when he was in his prime, he was like, Gary Busey insane. Or not, you decide.
2 TeslasMuse 2016-01-25
i always figured they were supported by the powers that be and encouraged to be fanatical. it must be the ultimate turn on to get away with everything right under the whole world's noses
1 loqi0238 2016-01-25
Which brings us back to whether or not these people are misinformation mouth pieces, whether they know it or not.
2 captain_teeth33 2016-01-25
Anyone notice that the episode is called 'My Struggle'???
2 flyingcaveman 2016-01-25
Well, obviously anybody who thinks like that is literally Hitler.
1 captain_teeth33 2016-01-25
The truth is out there.
1 ninja_gangsta_pirate 2016-01-25
Mein Kampf
2 Charliepantsonfire 2016-01-25
Good thing you didn't stay for the scene where Scully scolded everyone for talking such nonsense and more... that to even THINK of such things being tantamount to TREASON.
1 ninja_gangsta_pirate 2016-01-25
Scully has always been the skeptic (unless it's about religion, then she believes for some reason), The show wouldn't be as good if everybody in it was just in an echo chamber of agreement all the time. That would ruin half the drama and end most discussion.
2 valantismp 2016-01-25
I have a question the videos on the intro etc are real videos or made for the series only?
1 loqi0238 2016-01-25
If you kept watching, you would see why it was important that they use someone like him to make a specific point.
It's meant to show Mulder's evolution of thinking.
Don't take TV so seriously, and never assume you know something without the full story.
1 flyingcaveman 2016-01-25
I saw it and I also saw a cool Northrup Grumman commercial that alluded to a stealth aircraft, so don't fuck with America got it?
-1 loxsey 2016-01-25
Uninteresting viewing I thought.
-1 ninja_gangsta_pirate 2016-01-25
I watched it twice. They were fairly spot on with their analysis of real world conspiracies. I also like that they are shifting from blaming it all on the Ayy Lmao aliens, to a more realistic conspiracy of secret governments experimenting on their own people, even going as far as referencing the Tuskeegie experiments. I thought it was a brilliant episode and a true return to form for one of my favorite shows. The only downside that concerns me is that people might just watch it and consider it an entertaining fiction when it is actually drawing heavily on factual conspiracies which have shaped the world we live in. The best lies are sandwiched in between a couple truths and that's how the 'fiction' of X-files works. They cite 100 real conspiracies and link them together with a more fantastic alien conspiracy.
1 loqi0238 2016-01-25
Are you serious? I just told you.
1 TeslasMuse 2016-01-25
i haven't watched them in a while, but like i said, alien DNA would just mean not in the DNA database
1 loqi0238 2016-01-25
Which brings us back to whether or not these people are misinformation mouth pieces, whether they know it or not.
2 DronePuppet 2016-01-25
It's on again tonight?