If trump is the plan, why does he come across so antiestablishment.... Very interested in this. I've always thought of sanders and trump as the complete opposite of the plan.
Yeah, but when Obama came out with the whole "Hope and Change" narrative, the media treated him like Jesus. Like the reincarnation of Martin Luther King. (Remember the famous Chris Matthews moment on MSNBC when he said that Obama spoke and it made "a thrill run up [his] leg"?) Trump, by contrast, has been attacked since day one. Maligned, ridiculed, underestimated. "He'd be gone within a week," etc.
Obama's treatment was never like that. Obama really WAS a media creation. So if there was a plan to scam the American people, it was Obama. (He's been exposed since and has lost most of his initial luster.)
But Trump's rise can't be equated at all with Obama's, since one made it because of the media, while the other made it despite the media.
Same thing with Sanders.
I really don't think that either man is part of a sinister "master plan" by the Powers That Be. If they were, their coverage would be vastly more different. Like Angela Merkel's--once she flooded her country with rapists. The international bankers who want to weaken national sovereignty (and remove all impediments to their power) lionized her dissolution of German culture and sovereignty by making her Time's Person of the Year. That's the coverage you get when you're the stooge of the power elite. Like when Obama got the Nobel peace prize two weeks after entering the White House [and having done nothing to earn it]. The Trump and Sanders treatment is quite the opposite, which leads me to believe they're legit. In summation, don't suspect foul play when the media is attacking someone; suspect it when the media is universally praising someone.
yeah but back then, very few people knew that the media was full of shit. a lot of ppl know that now, so tptb have to work within this new reality.
so now they have their sacrificial 'plan a' - clinton and bush - perhaps their first choice, but they know most people will see thru them. they have to clearly attack the controlled opposition with the media to give them an 'anti-establishment' appeal, when in reality trump/sanders are just their 'plan b'
sanders and trump are both full of shit. their appeal is entirely predictable - engineered, even. sharpen your pitchforks.
Ya, it's obvious they are trying hard to get hillary in there no matter what. So that tells me trump isn't part of their plan. They are doing everything they can to stop him.
Trump is there to make the entire GOP look like a crazy shit show so it can make the Democratic Party (Hillary) look that much better to the MSM public.
I think there was maybe 5% in it, so it was close. Not sure what it all means though. I try and get my info from Reddit, but there is a lot of bias to sort through and the mods at politics and sandersforpresident delete anything that may be deemed anti-sanders. I'm pro sanders, but they are hurting themselves by censoring anything that may offend them. Makes it difficult to truly gage what's going on and how well he is actually doing.
This is exactly right. What I've seen is that if they were even nation wide, clinton would have won by 3%. So the fact that Sanders only lost by 5% means they are very, very close, and Sanders gaining momentum. They also both have 50 delegates.
I love it.... In Bush & most others (bernie/possibly trump aside) this is why you can start to see the fear in the faces.... They're beginning to understand the game is up, rules have changed. Corruption, war is growing thin on Americans
Curious: When was it "already known" this would happen? A month ago? Two? I pretty much thought Jeb had it in the bag a year ago. Trump ruined him, and it was a sight to see.
Others haven't been thinking this since he was first forced into the public eye as a possibility?
Who do you know that could even mildly tolerate anyone from the Bush tribe? They truly are despised. By all walks of life. And can you even blame them for holding the members of the Bush crime syndicate in such ill-regard? With the former president, he can barely even show his face in public anymore. Sr. was so hated, even the slimiest world's top spy boss couldn't rig the vote against so many, so vocal against him. W...Even with the round-the-clock inundation of pro-Bush/his policies messages, pushed heavily by the owned media, the big six, people still turned out in droves to "play" vote against him. Thanks to good old Diebold and his slimy brother Jeb, he easily held them off though on his repeat term. Today, he's a joke. A liar, who cost the county TRILLIONS needlessly. The people know...
When there's literally no one you know that can even stand the guy, yet he mysteriously keeps "winning" these over dramatised contests, people will then really start questioning their placebo button "voting" privileges.
Curious: When was it "already known" this would happen? A month ago? Two? I pretty much thought Jeb had it in the bag a year ago. Trump ruined him, and it was a sight to see.
Ya, it's obvious they are trying hard to get hillary in there no matter what. So that tells me trump isn't part of their plan. They are doing everything they can to stop him.
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21 compensatedshill 2016-02-21
Don't let it be said that Trump didn't do anything good
2 Juan__Lennon 2016-02-21
LOL
9 flyyyyyyyyy 2016-02-21
no worries - trump is their backup plan. just like bernie is the backup plan for clinton. a puppet will rule, regardless.
12 blaaaahhhhh 2016-02-21
If trump is the plan, why does he come across so antiestablishment.... Very interested in this. I've always thought of sanders and trump as the complete opposite of the plan.
20 flyyyyyyyyy 2016-02-21
because people want to vote for somebody that's anti-establishment.
remember 'hope & change'?
10 Drooperdoo 2016-02-21
Yeah, but when Obama came out with the whole "Hope and Change" narrative, the media treated him like Jesus. Like the reincarnation of Martin Luther King. (Remember the famous Chris Matthews moment on MSNBC when he said that Obama spoke and it made "a thrill run up [his] leg"?) Trump, by contrast, has been attacked since day one. Maligned, ridiculed, underestimated. "He'd be gone within a week," etc.
Obama's treatment was never like that. Obama really WAS a media creation. So if there was a plan to scam the American people, it was Obama. (He's been exposed since and has lost most of his initial luster.)
But Trump's rise can't be equated at all with Obama's, since one made it because of the media, while the other made it despite the media.
Same thing with Sanders.
I really don't think that either man is part of a sinister "master plan" by the Powers That Be. If they were, their coverage would be vastly more different. Like Angela Merkel's--once she flooded her country with rapists. The international bankers who want to weaken national sovereignty (and remove all impediments to their power) lionized her dissolution of German culture and sovereignty by making her Time's Person of the Year. That's the coverage you get when you're the stooge of the power elite. Like when Obama got the Nobel peace prize two weeks after entering the White House [and having done nothing to earn it]. The Trump and Sanders treatment is quite the opposite, which leads me to believe they're legit. In summation, don't suspect foul play when the media is attacking someone; suspect it when the media is universally praising someone.
1 Aidan_Mclaren 2016-02-21
It doesn't matter if neither of the men are puppets TPTB, because these men will be threatened into doing their bidding regardless.
1 Juan__Lennon 2016-02-21
To even be where they are, all of those pleasantries surely were taken care of quite a while ago.
-1 flyyyyyyyyy 2016-02-21
yeah but back then, very few people knew that the media was full of shit. a lot of ppl know that now, so tptb have to work within this new reality.
so now they have their sacrificial 'plan a' - clinton and bush - perhaps their first choice, but they know most people will see thru them. they have to clearly attack the controlled opposition with the media to give them an 'anti-establishment' appeal, when in reality trump/sanders are just their 'plan b'
sanders and trump are both full of shit. their appeal is entirely predictable - engineered, even. sharpen your pitchforks.
1 RadMicah 2016-02-21
Very true.
3 blaaaahhhhh 2016-02-21
Yeah, but these two have a pretty good back story. Undeniable in fact.
I think sanders is out of it now after tonight... But controlling either trump or sanders would mean both of them throwing away a lifetime of stances.
Hillary seems like SUCH the obvious choice as do most of the republican candidates.
I do remember the Obama hope/change thing.... But with both those two, it is so different because of their backgrounds.
1 RadMicah 2016-02-21
Ya, it's obvious they are trying hard to get hillary in there no matter what. So that tells me trump isn't part of their plan. They are doing everything they can to stop him.
1 RadMicah 2016-02-21
Because he isn't their plan, he is a rare entity, screwing shit up for them.
1 blaaaahhhhh 2016-02-21
You just repeated what I said. Doesn't help what I was asking there much mate
2 RadMicah 2016-02-21
Ahh, sorry, I just think he wasn't the plan.
1 RadMicah 2016-02-21
And ya I'm on your side mate.
1 Iamawafflefry 2016-02-21
Trump is there to make the entire GOP look like a crazy shit show so it can make the Democratic Party (Hillary) look that much better to the MSM public.
1 potxolo 2016-02-21
A billionaire, anti-establishment? LOL. Marketing has some of y'alll believing the darnest things...
5 Putin_loves_cats 2016-02-21
I think Trump v. Sanders was the plan all along.
1 RadMicah 2016-02-21
Maybe, imo, I think it was supposed to be hillary vs jeb, that's the only win/win I can see.
0 blaaaahhhhh 2016-02-21
Isn't sanders pretty much out of it now?
0 Putin_loves_cats 2016-02-21
Idk, I haven't really been following it all that much. Why would he be?
3 blaaaahhhhh 2016-02-21
He just lost in Nevada tonight...
0 Putin_loves_cats 2016-02-21
So that means he's out? Honest question.
0 blaaaahhhhh 2016-02-21
To be honest, I'm not sure....
I think there was maybe 5% in it, so it was close. Not sure what it all means though. I try and get my info from Reddit, but there is a lot of bias to sort through and the mods at politics and sandersforpresident delete anything that may be deemed anti-sanders. I'm pro sanders, but they are hurting themselves by censoring anything that may offend them. Makes it difficult to truly gage what's going on and how well he is actually doing.
5 momentum77 2016-02-21
The total delegate count is pretty even. And he was expected to lose Nevada by 25%. He lost it by 5%. Seems to me he's gaining momentum.
1 DrDougExeter 2016-02-21
This is exactly right. What I've seen is that if they were even nation wide, clinton would have won by 3%. So the fact that Sanders only lost by 5% means they are very, very close, and Sanders gaining momentum. They also both have 50 delegates.
1 RadMicah 2016-02-21
No he isnt, they can't buy him, and they don't want the truth out which it seems to me that that is what he's doing.
9 sheasie 2016-02-21
blame george jr, not jeb.
can you imagine... having to follow in george jr's footsteps??
jesus, i would rather eat a cactus.
7 taiyoukei 2016-02-21
Jeb co-authored PNAC and helped his brother steal Florida, why shouldn't we blame him too?
5 Juan__Lennon 2016-02-21
It's just sad.
3 RadMicah 2016-02-21
Don't forget their father, and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
9 sweetabix84 2016-02-21
Please clap.... SLOW CLAP FOR JEB.....2%
1 godiebiel 2016-02-21
Low energy clap
6 Apexk9 2016-02-21
You know Bush will shit talk him at family reunions after he does lines of coke.
4 Rotundus_Maximus 2016-02-21
He can be hired by trump to be his Mosses to lead Jeb's people to the promise land beyond the Great Trump wall.
2 joekerr37 2016-02-21
Pretty sure he would make him Secretary of (low) Energy.
2 popups4life 2016-02-21
The only downside is the loss of the biggest bafoon currently running!
2 sweetabix84 2016-02-21
I love it.... In Bush & most others (bernie/possibly trump aside) this is why you can start to see the fear in the faces.... They're beginning to understand the game is up, rules have changed. Corruption, war is growing thin on Americans
1 decorama 2016-02-21
How is this conspiracy?
1 szlachta 2016-02-21
Popular vote doesn't matter, so who cares. It's all about 500 or so people.
1 szlachta 2016-02-21
Downvotes from ignorance.
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5 IanPhlegming 2016-02-21
Curious: When was it "already known" this would happen? A month ago? Two? I pretty much thought Jeb had it in the bag a year ago. Trump ruined him, and it was a sight to see.
1 Juan__Lennon 2016-02-21
Others haven't been thinking this since he was first forced into the public eye as a possibility?
Who do you know that could even mildly tolerate anyone from the Bush tribe? They truly are despised. By all walks of life. And can you even blame them for holding the members of the Bush crime syndicate in such ill-regard? With the former president, he can barely even show his face in public anymore. Sr. was so hated, even the slimiest world's top spy boss couldn't rig the vote against so many, so vocal against him. W...Even with the round-the-clock inundation of pro-Bush/his policies messages, pushed heavily by the owned media, the big six, people still turned out in droves to "play" vote against him. Thanks to good old Diebold and his slimy brother Jeb, he easily held them off though on his repeat term. Today, he's a joke. A liar, who cost the county TRILLIONS needlessly. The people know...
When there's literally no one you know that can even stand the guy, yet he mysteriously keeps "winning" these over dramatised contests, people will then really start questioning their placebo button "voting" privileges.
5 IanPhlegming 2016-02-21
Curious: When was it "already known" this would happen? A month ago? Two? I pretty much thought Jeb had it in the bag a year ago. Trump ruined him, and it was a sight to see.
1 RadMicah 2016-02-21
Ya, it's obvious they are trying hard to get hillary in there no matter what. So that tells me trump isn't part of their plan. They are doing everything they can to stop him.