How Hillary Beat Bernie
109 2016-03-02 by Playaguy
Media is controlled by 6 companies. source
GE CEO Jeff Immelt. Hillary Supporter source
NewsCorp CEO Ruppert Murdoch Hillary Supporter source
Disney CEO Bob Iger Hillary Supporter source
TIme Warner CEO Robert Marcus Hillary Supporter source
Viacom CEO Philippe Dauman Hillary Supporter source
CBS CEO Leslie Moonves Hillary Supporter source
Maybe that is why the frauds in Iowa were not widely reported...
Hillary won six precincts in a row by coin toss because organizers refused to call for recounts. source
Iowa Democratic Party says votes from 90 precincts are unaccounted for. source
More Fraud and here here here here
Once that was taken care of, move to media manipulation. A few examples...
Twitter censors #WhichHillary hashtag, shows control Hillary Clinton has over corporate media source
No one is talking about...... Since 2013 Hillary Clinton Has Earned A Staggering 21.7 Million For Only 92 Appearances. source
And of course money. List of Donors Bernie never stood a chance...
62 comments
26 Manaspider 2016-03-02
I haven't met a single person who supports clinton in the last year this farce has been going on. If this traitorous wench wins I hope we'll get that revolution we are so in need of.
13 platinum_peter 2016-03-02
We won't. It will be business as usual.
9 THE_ALL_RAPING_EYE 2016-03-02
Not with that attitude!
You need to get mad as hell!
http://youtu.be/q_qgVn-Op7Q
1 charnelmessiah 2016-03-02
Not a chance.
3 Britt121 2016-03-02
I know one person voting for Hillary- my 93 year old grandmother with dementia (not kidding). Literally, the only person.
18 gymnoob2k15 2016-03-02
She hasnt beat him yet..
3 sheasie 2016-03-02
Hillary Clinton: "What elephant?!"
11 scaredshtlessintx 2016-03-02
we're screwed...again
2 scott003 2016-03-02
Even worse this time, it seems.... Not rubberstamping Obama's actions as good, but this might be the comeuppance from Barry acknowledging the evils of the US's foreign policy.
9 Brodusgus 2016-03-02
It's an oligarchy and set up.
9 LegendaryPeace 2016-03-02
Things make more sense when you realize you're in an oligarchy.
7 FlacOrGtfo 2016-03-02
I swear I've had YouTube comments removed that were related to Hillary
6 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-03-02
The voting machines are rigged. All of the other reasons don't even really matter in the face of that, except to help try to sell the idea that the machines aren't rigged.
5 [deleted] 2016-03-02
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1 kelsi0504 2016-03-02
Ooh and you can customize it to say whatever you want. Too bad its not a magnet, I'll just end up putting the sticker sideways.
4 OB1_kenobi 2016-03-02
3 yakadoodle 2016-03-02
You mean, there was more to it than skulduggery, lying, cheating, and vote manipulation?
Well then...
3 JERkchickenBoy 2016-03-02
Most of the Burning Man style crowd seems to be all up Bernie's ass. I don't blame 'em, but I've never heard one say they'd vote for hillery or trump
2 Horus_Krishna_2 2016-03-02
try out burning man. naked women.
2 JERkchickenBoy 2016-03-02
please don't go if that's you're reasoning -_- Unless you are a woman enjoying that you can be nude and frolic around, in which case, yes, nude, unbothered women. But you said naked so I assume you mean it in a sexual way.
Granted, what those naked women do is fantastic, but it won't happen if you're perving 'em. Guys… meh… guys are utility but you'll see a looooooot of dongs. Lots of dongs. So many dongs.
3 Lamont-Cranston 2016-03-02
By lying, manipulating people, and having the elites backing her.
2 kayjaylayray 2016-03-02
They should just have a list like this for every candidate and the people vote for who has the least corporate support. At least with a list like this you should know who not to vote for.
2 LOST_TALE 2016-03-02
Representing people. lol I bet most of those unions are state sanctioned cartels.
-21 cttechnician 2016-03-02
Good. I was getting sick and goddamn tired of all the pro-Bernie, pro-commie bullshit.
10 Kyoraki 2016-03-02
Would you honestly rather have a corporate puppet like Hillary over Bernie?
And don't give us that 'pro-commie' bullshit, all he's asking for is to build socialist infrastructures that the rest of the developed world has proven to be the superior system for decades. America's healthcare system is so bad it's not even funny anymore, and it's entirely because of puppet presidents that maintain the broken corporate insurance system instead of adopting a national health service.
-4 cttechnician 2016-03-02
No. Neither choice is good.
Bernie is a communist. He claims to be a 'socialist,' because 'socialism' is amazingly popular among today's
idiotsyouth and liberals who either lack the life experience to know or are actively ignoring the fact that communalism fails at every level. No, 'socialism' is communism in a pretty new dress to appeal to ignorant, desperate masses.And
communismsocialism! is going to fix that for us, right? Bull fucking shit. The system is bad, yeah--it really is. But the last 'fix' to healthcare, Obamacare, fucked over the middle class and you people went on and on and on about how great it was... right up until the premium and deductible hike we all knew was coming to begin with. So, you'll understand if I don't want any more idiots with grand ideas going anywhere near my medical system again any time soon, unless it's to dismantle Obamacare.And who voted that puppet into office? Oh, right... the same, exact people who now want to vote a communist into office. You suckers keep falling for "HOPE AND CHANGE," in the hope that shit will change if you just keep voting liberal. News flash: it ain't changing if you keep electing the same people, from the same groups, over and over. Bernie is no lord and savior, he's the same old shit in a new set of clothes (socialism!).
2 rusengcan 2016-03-02
Are you a multi millionaire or greater? No? Then socialism works for you, you fucking moron. Stop sucking on the teet of the elite.
0 cttechnician 2016-03-02
No, it does not, you damned fool. From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs does not work. The Russians had a saying, in the height of the Soviet era: "You pretend to pay me and I'll pretend to work."
And get on the teat of the government? No, thank you. I would rather make my own way in life than accept a fucking government handout. Where is your pride as a man, in knowing you've done an honest day's work for an honest day's pay? Or is that no longer a thing, and you desperately want an allowance from mommy and daddy (the government) so you don't have to go to work?
1 Kyoraki 2016-03-02
So what, everyone else in the world isn't a real man because they have a better, government run healthcare system? America is the last bastion of masculinity or something?
Too much pride will kill you. National healthcare, like the systems in Canada, Japan, Europe, or here in the UK have been proven without a doubt to be far more cost effective and deliver a far better quality of care than the privatised American system. I have no idea how Americans sleep at night knowing that despite being in the richest country in the world, they have to rely on a third world healthcare system each time they get sick,and the only reason why is because of hypocrites like you that will happily pay for a socialist pension, socialist law enforcement, socialist emergency services, but won't fit the bill for a socialist healthcare system.
Swallow your pride and selfishness for once, and think about the benefit of the superior system for your country as a whole instead of thinking only about the gold lining of your coat pockets. You're starting to reek of a corporate shill.
1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
Implying masculinity is bad. Aside from that, if they're accepting handouts for something they didn't earn, then yes, they are lesser than someone who works for what he has.
And too little makes you a slave to anyone who comes along offering you a handout.
You're American, right? You've never actually lived in any of these countries? So when citizens of these countries describe their health systems, how they're just as fucked up as ours is in different ways, due to being government subsidized, you just ignore it--right? What you're experiencing is a classic case of "the grass is always greener on the other side." Come to find out, it's usually only greener because it's covered in more bullshit.
Why should I pay for you when you get sick, komrade? Why should you pay for me, when I get sick? Grow up, become an adult, and pay for yourself--instead of whining about how unfair having to do things by yourself is like some selfish child. And that is exactly what this system will produce--an entire nation of adult children suckling at the government teat.
I am swallowing my selfishness, you condescending fool. If I were arguing for the selfish option, I'd demand you pay for my medical care instead of getting up off my lazy ass and paying for it myself. I am thinking of what's best for my country--a nation of responsible adults, as opposed to adult children reliant on the government for everything.
What fucking gold? I work for a living. Considering where I live and the cost of living, adjusted for inflation I likely make less than you despite my education and field of work.
Accusations of shilling are a bannable offense now a days, in our more politically correct reddit. Don't worry though, I won't report you for using bad words.
1 Kyoraki 2016-03-02
I'm not. I'm saying you're an idiot for equating masculinity with your anti-socialist beliefs. Go to Eastern Europe and see how long that kind of attitude will play out for you. Hell, they'll probably say that you are a pathetic excuse of a man for relying so heavily on your employers.
No, I'm not. As a result, I've learned this little thing called 'reading'.
"Canada, Japan, Europe, or here in the UK"
No, we don't say that. We (as in the rest of the developed world) have been telling you for the better part of 50 years that our Healthcare systems are vastly superior to yours in every single way, and that you should adopt it yourselves to fix your current disaster of a system. Hell, we even have to write laws now to stop American 'health tourists' coming to get treatment here.
Great, then you should also get rid of your socialised law enforcement, pensions, public transport, emergency services, etc, and replace those with insurance systems too. It's only fair, right? Why should your money go towards stopping people's homes burning down, or being mugged on the street? If you want that piece of mind, you should foot the bill all on your own instead of "suckling at the government teat", right?
Now if only there was some way you could cut your yearly bills by a significant margin. Like by scrapping a horribly inefficient and overpriced corporate system and replacing it with a far more cost effective government run institution that provides a better quality of care. And if only there was some kind of evidence that show this system working across the world, so taxpayers wouldn't be blindly committing to a system that might fail.
1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
...What? I don't even... How does this work? As opposed to what? Relying on everyone else to provide for me?
Ah, my mistake. I genuinely missed that part--considering I'm at work while reading this shit.
Well, there's the fucking problem. You're in the UK, land of cucks. How's that immigrant infestation treating you?
Except, again, you have your own problems and you're so busy touting how superior your system is, you fail to acknowledge them.
But you're an advanced, socialist nation! You should feel guilty for turning away those seeking to take advantage of your government run health care! People like Americans, or the flood of immigrants overrunning the place. Just lie back and think of your European privilege when you do it.
OR how about we apply some common fucking sense to the situation, which you seem to sorely lack? Police, fire, emergency services, pensions--these are some of the few things that actually benefit from forced socialism. Medical treatment is not one of them. Nor is public transit, really--to the point that we don't have public transit worth a shit because it's government run.
It doesn't. It goes towards putting out the fires and not stopping people from being mugged on the street. Police have no duty to protect you or to intervene in a crime, as they've willfully demonstrated recently.
I do. It's called taxes. I pay in taxes, I get those services. I pay a special field out of my pay every week, labeled FICA. Learn how the American pay and tax system works before you criticize.
There is not. I have tried.
I don't actually pay for healthcare. I do not have health insurance. I have not been to the doctor in over a decade. I went to the dentist last year, had a tooth removed, paid $150 cash. No taxpayers footed my bill, I paid out of pocket.
There is not, because it has done spectacularly poorly in every nation it's been done in.
1 Kyoraki 2016-03-02
You seriously see no problem with relying on a corporation for everything in your life? Seriously? Why not just tattoo the word 'SLAVE' on your head while you're at it.
And it's around 9pm here, meaning I finished mine some hours ago. What's your point? Am I supposed to be impressed that you've got a job?
Quite fine, considering there aren't any here thanks to a 20 mile stretch of ocean. You're thinking of Germany. Do you need me to point it out on a map?
What problems? In what way is the US's third world healthcare any better than the one used by the rest of the world?
Unfortunately, there's this little thing called taxes. You need to pay into the system in order to get anything out of it, you can't just waltz up to a hospital and demand everything like a typical greedy, selfish American. I know it's complicated, but it's kind of how this whole thing works. And again, you're thinking of Germany. Completely different country.
Evidence from around the world says otherwise.
Trust me, it's a lot better than the privatised transport system in the UK. Even in L.A which is supposed to be terrible, public transport was lightyears better than what we've got here. You'd be fools to privatise it.
Well you're fucked then, and you've got nothing but your own arrogance to blame. Have fun dying an early death because you literally couldn't afford to stay alive. Living that American dream!
Sure, if it helps you sleep at night. The entire world is wrong for adopting single payer systems, it's only the glorious US of A that knows the true solution!
1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
You seriously see no problem with relying on a government for everything in your life? Seriously?
It seems like we're making the same argument here, against separate entities.
You'd best get ready, because it's coming.
No, but then if we're talking about maps, can you look at a map of the USA and point to Washington State vs Washington, D.C.? I sort of doubt it. Then again, maybe you can. My country is notoriously bad about teaching world geography, I'll admit. It probably has something to do with the fact that most of our states are as large as if not larger than most countries in the EU. Hell, there are counties in those states larger than some European countries.
Better doctors, better treatment options, better medicine, better facilities...
Wow. It's almost like you're saying the exact same fucking thing I've been saying. Except, you know, I'm arguing against putting the system that would allow that bullshit into place in the first place.
You're thinking of our Protected Classes, not the rest of us. You're imagining people demanding gibs, handouts, free money and the like. Normal Americans don't demand a goddamn thing from anyone, we earn it or we earn the money to pay for it.
Yes, except that our government is corrupt and that money will disappear. It's been done and tried and never seems to work. Privatization would be the only way to break out of the cycle of spending tax dollars on things that never quite work how we want them to or were lead to believe--why, it's sort of like health care that way.
Arrogance? What is it with you Europeans and thinking Americans are so fucking arrogant? Is it because you're envious of our freedoms? Because our government hasn't quite managed to quell any potential for armed rebellion yet, like they have in the UK and the rest of the EU?
Admittedly, it is upsetting. However, there is little to be done about it. Government subsidized healthcare won't solve this.
If the rest of the world was lining up to jump off a bridge, would you follow like every other lemming?
1 Kyoraki 2016-03-02
You're right. The difference is that I'd trust a democratically elected official over a corporate ceo any day of the week. Our leaders may not be perfect, but at least they're not as downright evil as say, the CEO of Nestle.
This is in reference to the 20k refugees that the UK government plans to bring in from Turkish UN camps on the Syrian border, not the economic migrants currently swarming across Europe into Germany.
America is big. We know.
Are you serious? The idea that the US has the best facilities in the world is nothing but a myth spun by insurance companies to keep you paying. The US consistently ranks on the bottom of studies ranking healthcare systems across the world.
Again, governments are more trustworthy than corporations. I'm not sure how that's controversial, but hey ho.
Which is why we're drafting laws to stop Americans travelling to Europe purely to abuse our healthcare. Gotcha.
Ours isn't. Maybe if you didn't put corporations in charge of things that should be run by the government, they wouldn't be so easily corruptible.
That's what Thatcher said about National Rail in the 80's. It hasn't exactly gone to plan. Corporations don't care about improving things, only profit.
Freedoms. In the USA. Sure.
What reason do people in Europe have to rise against their governments? We're nowhere near as fucked as the US has become.
Evidence around the world suggests otherwise.
Depends on why they're jumping off the bridge, doesn't it? You're no less of a fool for not doing something everyone else does, just because everyone is doing it.
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1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
Nixon, GHW Bush, GW Bush, Obama, and presidential candidate Clinton would like a word with you on that.
My point is, it's a matter of scale. What works in small scale for Sweden, the UK, etc will not necessarily work on much larger America.
And yet, people still come here for treatment over going elsewhere. Why is that, then?
The same governments working with the corporations to curtail our rights in favor of corporations, right? You know, with all those friendly little things like TPP and so on. Come on, now. Get with the program. They're both out to fuck us.
Go right on ahead. I'm not stopping you. It's your right to defend your country economically. I'm just saying that most of us don't do that shit.
You say this as though the people we elect aren't in the pockets of the corporations. They are. Voting for a politician is voting for a corporation, several really, and there isn't much if anything we average American citizens can do about it short of revolution--and only a few of us really want that.
True, as we've seen with broadband in the US several times over. However, again, our politicians are out to fuck us.
Because, despite the bullshit here with healthcare, Europe is actually closer to fucked than we are by taking in those 'fugees. Germany is one bad day away from hanging Merkel from a lamp post and returning to its roots.
And again, I reiterate, it's a matter of scale. America has a ridiculously large population. What works in small scale for you won't necessarily work for us, especially with all the people already on welfare and public assistance dragging it down.
It's a bridge. Do not jump off it. This is common sense. I don't care if people say there's a portal leading straight to a lake of jello filled with naked, promiscuous women under it, odds are good they're full of shit and jumping off will get you killed.
1 [deleted] 2016-03-02
He plans on never being sick, unlike all these freeloaders.
1 rusengcan 2016-03-02
That's not it at all. Government as it stands works for big business and so called trickle down effects aren't happening. Stop drinking the fucking koolaid and wake up. You're a pleb like the rest of us.
1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
Bull shit it's not.
Yes. I agree. It doesn't fucking work. However, neither does communism. Get out of the red koolaid and wake yourself up. You're electing to make yourself a slave to the state by choosing communalism.
1 rusengcan 2016-03-02
Socialism =\ Communism
1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
Socialism is Communism in a pretty new dress, made to appeal to young and ignorant masses. Both are communalism and neither work.
1 rusengcan 2016-03-02
Like capitalism has "worked". You bitch and moan about socialism giving handouts to lazy, umanly, young people, yet you fail to recognize you as a consumer have lived off the backs of slaves for years. Ever shop at WalMart? Buy anything online? Made in China? Made in Indonesia? That delicious Mexican picked produce? So please, spare me your ignorance. Blaming the poor and the lazy and the immigrants is typical bullshit. Free reigning Capitalism without government regulation has fucked my generation, no thanks to yours. So please, go read something other than Reddit cicrclejerking neckbeard comments.
1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the incessant whining about privilege coming from your general direction.
No, Billy, capitalism made this nation great. Liberalism and the slow march towards communism has slowly strangled this nation, all thanks to you and yours.
Why don't you go smoke a bowl as the rest of your degenerate, commie friends are so keen to these days and let the rest of us get down to the business of making this country great again? Or, you know, emigrate from America to Canada as soon as Trump is elected. Please, do. Without you and your kind around, we can fix the shit your people have been fucking up since before Vietnam.
1 rusengcan 2016-03-02
You just proved how much of a bigot you are and your rant illustrates to me you're trying to fool yourself.
1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
One of these things is not like the other...
9 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2016-03-02
Seems to be the only candidate willing to make the corporations pay back their criminally gained assets to me
0 cttechnician 2016-03-02
Seems to be you're buying into HOPE AND CHANGE again.
2 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2016-03-02
Still beats sucking on Kochs.
-2 cttechnician 2016-03-02
My, a dick joke. How... original and completely unexpected. /s
I reiterate, Bernie is not your lord and savior and is, in fact, the worst possible choice.
3 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2016-03-02
Bernie's not my anything, but if the choice is a corrupt murderous psycho bitch, a delusional billionaire who only cares about money and could be bought by anyone willing to fuel his egomania or an old fart who cares actually about the people he represents the choice would be clear to me. You'd have to really hate the decent hard working people who make up America to vote otherwise.
-1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
There's your problem. You're under the mistaken impression Bernie actually cares about you. He does not.
I'm one of those decent, hard working people and I am here to tell you, communalism does not work. Socialism does not work. Communism does not work. Bernie is a commie, calling himself a socialist.
-3 [deleted] 2016-03-02
The problem is that the president can't actually do any of those things unless congress presents him with legislation. Which they won't. Bernie sanders was nothing more than the ron paul of this election cycle. A seemingly harmless old man spouting seemingly deep bits of wisdom in order to get voters motivated, so that they will go out and vote and give legitimacy to the system. Nothing he promised or said was viable or possible.
Just a casual glance at his record should demonstrate how legitimate he really is. He has accomplished nothing in his entire life. Not as a regular person or a congressman. He plays the political game lightly and keeps his head down. He makes bold speeches to empty rooms and has accomplished nothing.
2 Horus_Krishna_2 2016-03-02
-4 du44 2016-03-02
Honestly, I'm curious as to these numbers. Ending tax havens automatically gets us 100 billion dollars every year? All of this is bullshit. It's literally just a poor resolution picture on the internet, and has spelling errors. Who the hell believes this?
5 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2016-03-02
While I'm sure the numbers are estimations anyway American corporations are storing 2.1 trillion dollars offshore to avoid taxation, guess who makes up the shortfall and bails out the bankers? He's still the only candidate even beginning to address the real issues affecting your future.
2 whirl-pool 2016-03-02
Seriously, what future? Bernie won't get in, not by popular vote. If in, his hands will be tied. Hillary stands a good chance. What will she do? Nothing but perpetuate the current mess. She does not give a fuck about anyone but herself. The GOP candidates are pure puppets with their own religious agendas. No change. And you have The Frump, a self promoting prick who scares the bejesus out of me.
I can't vote, but perhaps people deserve what they get because of apathy. I also don't see why politicians don't use referendum's, probably because it would take two years to organise one!
1 du44 2016-03-02
They're literally keeping them offshore to avoid taxation. And as long as it's offshore Sanders can't tax them. I don't understand why people think Sanders can just break into other countries and steal money to pay off his own interestes.
3 Horus_Krishna_2 2016-03-02
"it's hard so let's not do it"
1 du44 2016-03-02
He can't legally do it.
1 Horus_Krishna_2 2016-03-02
good point too bad there is no system of changing laws in DC and a president has no involvement in it anyway.
2 du44 2016-03-02
You would need to go to the UN to make it legal. You need to change the laws in other countries to make it legal. And the other countries won't go for it because they like having the money there. Voting Sanders into the presidency won't change a damn thing. You realize this entire premise is the theory behind trickle down economics? Make taxes low enough that it's cheapest for the rich to live in the US. It's better to have some money than no money.
2 Horus_Krishna_2 2016-03-02
horrible excuses!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/22/1112509/-The-Gentleperson-s-Guide-to-Forum-Spies
1 kelsi0504 2016-03-02
Ooh and you can customize it to say whatever you want. Too bad its not a magnet, I'll just end up putting the sticker sideways.
2 Horus_Krishna_2 2016-03-02
horrible excuses!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/22/1112509/-The-Gentleperson-s-Guide-to-Forum-Spies
-2 cttechnician 2016-03-02
My, a dick joke. How... original and completely unexpected. /s
I reiterate, Bernie is not your lord and savior and is, in fact, the worst possible choice.
1 cttechnician 2016-03-02
Bull shit it's not.
Yes. I agree. It doesn't fucking work. However, neither does communism. Get out of the red koolaid and wake yourself up. You're electing to make yourself a slave to the state by choosing communalism.