Look up immortal technique. He does some intense conspiricy rap. Not the same as rage, but some good stuff

powerful magicians. the only band who was completed banned from clear channel radio after 9/11: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Clear_Channel_memorandum#List_of_songs

Damn I was literally thinking this the other day. Especially Rage's song "Wake up."

fwiw, here's mark passio's band, the founders:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXBgHUHDPd4

not really my style..

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progressive rock/metal or fully electronic - neither style lends itself to truth-telling like rap does

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ah dude bob marley just drips truth. i remember grooving along and then i heard some shit about 'babylon' and the 'imf'.. then you start looking at the lyrics.. wow.

Flobots can be pretty good.

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Same Thing - Flobots - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVXuqcceOv4

And, of course, Handlebars. Brilliant Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLUX0y4EptA

This is something different, and, unfortunately, we've lost the artist. He wrote "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised," but I think I prefer, "Whitey on the Moon."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY

EDIT- Phil Ochs is brilliant, too. Check him out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOs9xYUjY4I&ebc=ANyPxKrf7lJXPtB99ADNCC1P9QBj7R_KMT8CeYKdSy-Tw4yAOLyMfow7XOd9ZFfD0AVIkEZ-IceSgMTClZ8z9Dq3nZRtYHD6FA

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I'll watch it now. Bob Dylan said something along the lines about Ochs, "I can't keep up with him and he just gets better and better and better." Unfortunately, he hung himself. This is one of his best:

Cops of the World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_2x3JWWzvY

And just bc this is /r/conspiracy and I'm on a mind control kick:

Then you have her friend Phil Ochs, who was equally adamant in his opposition to the U.S. government and covert operations — and he developed a multiple personality by the name of John Train. It wasn't until ten years later that the name "John Train" surfaced as a C.I.A. operative working on Wall Street. As a matter of fact, Lyndon LaRouche complained about an agent named John Train who supposedly led him to his present jail sentence. During the 1960s and Seventies, John Train of the C.I.A. had the job of disrupting the Left, which was the sole purpose of Operation Chaos. So how was it that Phil Ochs came to have a multiple personality with the name of an actual C.I.A. agent? We know Phil Ochs was found hung in 1976 and it was his alternate personality that did the hanging that actually assassinated the host personality.

http://www.secondsmagazine.com/articles/48-constantine.php

Oh and this is brilliant: Love me, I'm a Liberal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

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Yeah, they have the potential to be catalysts for great social change, so TPTB try to make them apolitical like the Grateful Dead, who I also love, or, yeah, take them out. I liked the remake of that song, people all around the world working together. VEry nice.

Nothing like a good uncle Sam Blues, or a little ripple,... ;-)

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Sweet, thank you. So glad you could read my horrible phone fighting with autocorrect skills.

Amen to that. I like "Brown Eyed Women" "Scarlet Begonias" "Franklin's Tower" "Eyes of the World"- just to name a few.

Aye ...but nothing beats a good drum circle followed up by wide open space...shit I feel so fucking old and in the way.... Cheers brother, truth on. We are where we are. Let's rock it. #parkinglotlesson101

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That's disappointing to hear.

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Cool, I'll check it out.

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Yeah, I linked two really moving ones- lyrics wise. Cops of the World, and Love me, I'm a liberal. There's another great one about Mississippi, but check those two out first.

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Right on. Glad you enjoyed it. I'm very familiar with Country Joe and the Fish. Once knew a girl whose dad punched him out for not letting him get on stage and do his political spiel. He was a student activist in the 60s. Gimme an F!

We truly have become the cops of the world. They mention many political figures in Same Thing by the Flobots. I found an annotated lyrics sheet that was really cool, explained who every person was. Our country has done some real evil shit over the past several decades. Things seem to have gone to hell after Paperclip, when we literally incorporated high-ranking Nazis into our National Security agencies.

If you get time, check out my website. Sorry for plugging, but I'm really trying to raise awareness. If you're not into, feel no obligation to visit. Been nice talking with you: www.unitedagainstmindcontrol.wordpress.com

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Awesome. Thank you! I will join up now.

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You're welcome and thank you.

So what happened to them?

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Thanks. Follow up: if they were such anti-establishment then how did they become so big and even played endlessly on MTV at the time? Doesn't that go against what the big wigs want? Perhaps they were there to just rile people into thinking about fighting "the system" all while also having them thinking that "oh well, other people are doing something about it". They're lulled into false security?

RATM were a great band, but they weren't a real threat.

I would think of them more as controlled opposition. They were on a major label, after all. Completely corporate owned, a band that talked mad shit and bit the hand that fed them, basically.

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If you're looking for actual radical music, check out DIY punk / metal / grindcore.

That stuff is pretty out there and I think it embodies a lot of what you're talking about far better than rage. A lot of those guys don't even try to get on major labels, if not actively fuck with them. Most of the stuff they make is all done by themselves.

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Hmmm... ok. Well, a good punk band I think is Crass. They were very anti-establishment, and I'm not saying they were perfect or any better than RATM, but they embodied the anti-establishment ethic very well. Their songs were very thought provoking IMO.

This is one of my favorites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0ddOmzQlgY

I can always post more if I get a good list going, but I am short on good answers for you at the moment, sorry, haha.

Some other ones might be Black Flag and The Dead Kennedy's. They had really good lyrics in the same vein.

A newer punk band that is along this line is Tragedy. Very good independent stuff. Check out the album Vengeance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfsWgwKCjnk

Another good one is Aus-Rotten. They're pretty left wing, but I also think their songs will force you to read between the lines a bit more than the average band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H8N61v9Z9A

"Crass - Bloody Revolutions (With Lyrics)" - Length: 00:06:19

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Awesome! I'll check this one out.

Also, look at my post again, I edited it a bit.

If I get more, I'll respond to your comment or just PM you.

Give me some more music man! Sounds like we like a lot of the same stuff.

As for DK, "Chickenshit Conformist" is by far my favorite. It's very very true in the punk scene nowadays. Lots of fucking sheep that just want to say "fuck the system" and drink their Starbucks. They were very good at pointing out hypocrisy, and pointing toward the failures of punk as a social movement.

Bad Religion "What Can You Do?" off of suffer was a good one as well.

Some of these bands are bigger than I was planning to share, but I don't want to just give you stuff you'll hate outright.

Another one is Chumbawamba. Before they got big, they were pretty damn outspoken about injustice everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNs4YiISL-E

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I've always noticed that the most critical issues are inherently political. It's the unfortunate reality.

In concept, though, I agree. Fuck it all, haha.

RATM is about as radical as occupy wall street, bernie sanders, and college kids with Che Guevara shirts.

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Frank zappa had a great album called "we're only in it for the money", but that was a long time ago. Most music that I truly enjoy is apolitical. Artists typically tend to be on the left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-9FX7bhESs

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yeah i think so. his daughter dated marc maron for a while too.

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On phone so li King is beyond me but look for Zappa doing I am the slime. Truth. Short sweet and clear.

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I sing a fairly decent dinahmoehum, but not to many people out these days know it....getting old sux ;-)

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And some zircon encrusted tweezers...ooops I got lost there.

Hell I wouldn't mind a band that just played as well as Rage, even without the intelligent lyrics.

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Me too, I was just sayin'

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Well my favorite band is Nomeansno. West coast Canadian punk legends. Not really political, but musically off the charts. Better live than on vinyl. Oh they have a sub! /r/nomeansno one of the mods is Mikey, their old merch guy back in the day and drummer for their side project The Hanson Brothers.

Unfortunately many great bands avoid the more sensitive subjects it seems. NoFX put out some awesome stuff but they diluted themselves over the years.

I am old. DKs, DOA ...

I have been looking for some new stuff myself, to no avail. My kid is in a band and going to her shows and seeing all the other acts, it just seems that most are just going through the motions these days.

Awesome. Thank you! I will join up now.