it should be beyond simple auditing the Fed and DoD -- it should be about abolishing them and identifying/arresting the suspects

Courts arent going to do shit for a 'revolution'. You can't use the system of the people that need to be taken down to take them down. Revolutions have only ever worked when violence was used as a tool. Our forefathers would be shooting by now.

i'm not suggesting using their courts. those are OUR buildings. WE establish the common law courts. WE establish the militias to back them up.

Our forefathers would be shooting by now.

agreed.

Bernie sanders could be a limited hangout. Con trolled opposition. Gets us to think "oh right we can change the system" then slowly it shifts and then the pot stops boiling over. I hope not but ..

He also voted for the Afghanistan war and I think supports Israel alot

He's Jewish :/

He lived in Israel.

/r/limitedhangouts

i think both sanders and trump are controlled 'plan Bs'.

Benjamin Fulford contends that the ones in power are being closed in upon on the highest levels. Black Hat vs. White Hat. One would think this is the only way things could play out in favor of humanity. The revolution will be in the form of our personal awakening to the matrix.

and trust me, I WANT TO BELIEVE.

the cynical (90%) side of me thinks fulford is a psyop to pacify us, to make us think everything is gonna be okay when really we should be grabbing our ak-47s

BF may or may not be true, the AK 47 thing will definitely play into the hands of the elite.

those who aren't being financially controlled by the elite are being mind controlled by media and pharmaceuticals and food crack

this is why nothing gets done, because nobody really knows who they need to take out

this is cos they don't understand that there aren't individuals 'conspiring' against them that they need to take out, it's a machine; a machine may have it's organs, but unless the whole machine is taken down it will just develop new organs.

We need to reform more than our governments, but our attitudes on existentialism in general.

This is why communities like this have plopped up upon people's radars. Although it may be a machine, and an individual or group may be uncertain as to who to take out, we are still here spreading these ideas, truths, and news. Eventually, it will rock the machine like pouring sand into a gear box, or pouring CNC oil into an old and broken machine. Eventually, problems will be found and perfected. And the parts that are broken will be evident.

we are still here spreading these ideas, truths, and news.

'tis the problem, you know not what ideas you spread

You may not agree with me, but no matter what you have to say, if you express it with the grammar of a special 6th grader, it automatically undermines the value of what you're saying. What you said makes sense, but there's a part of me that goes 'should I really give any value to what he has to say? This seems like it may have been written by a monkey with a typewriter...'

Made worse by the fact that you're actually trying to sound smart (kinda got that vibe from this comment, but your other comments definitely confirmed it'. In this case, your grammar just makes it seem like you think you're way smarter than you really are.

it automatically undermines the value of what you're saying.

Yea sure, but to whom. Says more about the audience. Maybe I would rather filter off having conversations with people who can't see my point through petty verbal language?

but there's a part of me that goes 'should I really give any value to what he has to say?

Well natural selection can decide the practicality of that part of you because I don't care.

This seems like it may have been written by a monkey with a typewriter...'

And now, finally; what the holy shit are you on about. Ok, I may have ignored some obvious grammatical features, but fuck me sideways, it is completely coherent. Also this is reddit not a fucking whatever spelling olympics

Made worse by the fact that you're actually trying to sound smart (kinda got that vibe from this comment, but your other comments definitely confirmed it'. In this case, your grammar just makes it seem like you think you're way smarter than you really are.

Hmm referring back to my 'filter' pitch, I think it works because why the fuck would I want to have an 'intellectual' discussion with somebody who is making a dumb fuck assumption based on grammar. On top of that, your assumption is an ASSumption, it is weak as ass;

1. You don't know me, you don't know my agendas, you don't know what I think 'Smart' even means in the first place, so you have no merit to ASSume that I'm even striving to acquire a quality that you have determined yourself.

2. Pretty dumb and hypocritical (and ironic too lol), that you dare lecture me about grammar and 'trying to sound smart'. Of course, you, with your prophetic wisdom are able to determine 'what undermines the value' of a comment; a fucking know-it-all tells me I got an egoist arrogance problem.

3. I really don't care anyway; my philosophical perspective on the matter is akin to Socrates & the Oracle of Delphi

The only reason you identify me with egoism and arrogance is because you have those qualities and you labelled me with them. Because you're aware that people take issue with you for those qualities, you're quick to judge others on it, after all, you have plenty of experience. You know how those condemnations are expressed so you can spit them out as fast as lighting

I know this not because I know 'people like you' or anything, but simply because that is the only reason why people take issue with anything - Because it is one of their problems that they are trying to fix so they sub-concious has zero tolerance for 'broken' qualities it is trying to fix

I have a different brain and different levels of toleration for certain degrees of retardation, it don't have the same problems with bullshit that you do.

The Senate just voted on an Audit the Fed bill and it got shut down, all democrats (except Bernie Sanders) voted nay. That says a lot.

a revolution? you mean the one that was supposed to happen several years ago? can we put it on hold another few more years? i think im getting my compensation for gang stalking soon and would rather enjoy my millions than risk my life helping you idiots who were too stupid to realize the revolution should've happened years ago.

Even if there were an "audit", it would end up being a 9/11 or Warren Commission style fraud, an exercise in futility, imo. I am very cynical of fixing things from within our current system. The real levers of change have been removed. I believe what JFK said: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

The CIA was impossible to destroy back in his day (JFK), and they've had all this time to fortify and strengthen. Bush even added Homeland Security, which is a massive program that benefits the state apparatus, and I do not believe makes us any more "safe." People are under almost complete control but don't even notice. Most are just fine with the NSA spying, and that whole pesky Snowden thing.

I suppose my point is, if we really want our country back, it won't happen by electing even a Bernie Sanders or Trump. They are almost entirely just figureheads. (But most people right now, are under the impression that it will result in real change, which is a fantasy in my opinion.)

Instead, a revolution will be bloody, and probably make the civil war look like a walk in the park. That is what will be necessary for things to really change. Any half-measures will result in the same corrupt system in only a short matter of time. Unlimited money will corrupt almost anyone.

Pelosi and Obama allowed the shrub to get off scott free. Holder yawned at the calls for bankers to be imprisoned, and in fact he went immediately back to the lucrative banking industry, without most people batting an eye.

People will need to either be without food for a while or something major before waking up. Even when millions of people lost their homes around 2008, nothing happened. People are easily pacified and manipulated. The average american is a dumbass, I'm sorry to say, but it's the truth. Hunger, or some equally motivating factor will have to get people up off their couches. Even in the information age, the average american is completely in the dark as to how fucked everything is.

Someone here sent me this a while back. It's been my favorite song for a while now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exnaY0l4XsM

I also want to recommend Chris Hedges to anyone interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff-G0DPkBv8

I wonder who they would appoint to this commission style audit? Maybe Kissinger again? Lmao! It's not even the people who run the game anymore that we have to replace, it's the game itself. Fuck the state, humanity must be liberated from the bonds of tyranny. We must be free to self-govern, and until we are then everything else is just a band-aid. =/

Even with a foot in the grave, they would appoint Kissinger if they could, that's for sure. It's a wink and a nod to who really runs this dog and pony show.

a revolution will happen when alot people start to lose what they have ... before they dont care

just wait for next finance crash (is not far away) ... this one will be very hard ... a lot more people will lose what they have and another bailout will not be possible

Using the term "revolution" to describe just another General Election is hyperbole. The 'regular people' on both sides have been openly told by their party leaders that those leaders will choose the candidates.

Bad news for you my friend! The criminals are in control. If you try to arrest/prosecute them, they will come after you. They are rich and plugged into the system. You, I am willing to bet, are not. They will win and you will die or cry. It is all a big fucking con.

Perhaps the Benjamin Fulford factor is playing in. The White hat vs. Black hat scenario at the top, forcing things to play out in that arena.

Well, I am not sure what Fulford factor is, but I think that there is both real competition between the various factors at the top, as well as, kabuki that is presented to public that has no real meaning.

I should say the BF paradigm. I like the disclosure scenario as a way of awakening the public. The book "After Disclosure" by Richard Dolan points out how I think a mass awakening will occur.

excellent points. i need to know what the agenda is of the revolution and resistance. rather than bernie, donald, hillary.

I say we attack power grids, weigh stations and train depots. They are terribly managed, have low security and have enormous consequences.

Just my 2 cents.

BF may or may not be true, the AK 47 thing will definitely play into the hands of the elite.