I think you may be talking to the wrong crowd. Many of us here can handle multiple topics at once. While I agree politics is a distraction, and there are bigger issues, it's still a part of our lives that we must discuss. The key is to have the ability to balance multiple topics.

The environment is supremely important. Unfortunately for us, politicians control the polluters. (Or vice versa)

Politics is all show. But Hell, I'm glad that so many people are distracted by politics instead of the usual distractions like sports and what not.

For sure. But what better way to get people to look at environmental issues (and many other issues as well) than through the political spectrum?

I'm not arguing. Pollution has taken years off my life. You're correct, no amount of environmental polluting is safe. That's the only way we should look at it. Profits before people though. Unfortunately for us, politicians help control what is released.

No worries mate! You're not being aggressive. I just take it as you bring passionate for a cause that you believe in. But you're preaching to the choir. I'm all for eco friendliness. I try to do my part with my shitty little garden. But hell, every little bit helps.

I'm glad that so many people are distracted by politics instead of the usual distractions

I'd like to say politics is a just a small step up from bread and circuses, but it really isn't. Instead of grunts and dirt we have suits and professional manipulators.

True. Still a slight step up from the usual distractions.

I think the toxicity of air, food, and water is important, but there is a good deal to be concerned about beyond it...

Yes, but if you can eat, drink and breathe safely, do you want to then be in jail because your government is corrupt and all natural civil rights have been stripped away??

Don't be so myopic.

What he said. And check the new queue

Right! And even though voting may be partially (or completely) rigged, it requires a such a trivial amount of effort it seems foolish not to.

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Religion is the basis of war?

So the World Wars were religious? What about Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War?

People believe that religion has answers, that makes it an easy vehicle to push your agenda. The cause of war is people thinking they are right.

Religion is the basis of war.

and putting profit ahead of humanity.

Economics are a ticking time bomb.

central banking is a ticking time bomb of fiat currency and should be outlawed. JFK tried and failed. But we the people, together, can succeed.

Don't worry you won't get shadowbanned for that. I openly encourage people to join petitions to legalize psilocybin mushrooms and cannabis--and have a full justification for it that actually turns the law on its own head by using the government's own sources to contradict itself.

I think that's powerful, they probably think it's laughable. Why? Because they're a bag of dicks. Or putting it a better way, they are authoritarian bullies who have no respect for cogent argument, consisency, ethics, morals or dogma; or even principle. If they did, by their own standards there would be no drug war--all would be permitted.

I also post inflammatory stuff about how the medical industry doesn't know what the fuck they are doing. Pharma and Nestle (swiss companies generally) are purposefully putting poison in our food (probably because they are a tiny mountainbound country with an increasing population and no where to put their trash so they package it up in their food and ship it to us.... biolaundering is a new term I'm using for exporting your trash into food.

I also post about how the CIA is runnign both sides of the drug war and it's provable now and nobody cares (well, we care here... I consider everyone outside of /r/conspiracy to be a big fat nobody--lol)

So don't worry. Say what you will, but speak only your truth and you'll be fine.

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The whole point is responsibility. People want a politician to have all the responsibility.

Knowing how powerful And responsible you really are is painful and mind controlled out.

Agree. The only solution is to become responsible for these things. Once I learned about these things, my husband and I began doing what we could. Getting some land, paying off the mortgage as fast as possible, raising our own beef, growing some food, getting a water filter etc. Now that people are trippin about Flint and all the water problems happening, we have friends and family coming to us for advice on these things. Politicians give zero fucks so every person has got to start getting their shit together.

So basically you're saying You and your husband are extremely intelligent and brave? (:

I don't know about brave but I'd go with survival instinct. We were both raised in cities so we are constantly learning what the hell we're doing- it doesn't come natural lol. It just seems like the only option at this point. I refuse to see this world swirl down the toilet bowl and sit around waiting for a politician to fix these things. They're out there doing weird Satanic shit, abusing MK ultra slaves, murdering people in war and stealing from the people. These people simply cannot be trusted. So what choices are left? I guess I could play the victim card, but that's boring. Also, when I start thinking about a dollar collapse/societal meltdown, I feel compelled to act.

Not everyone can do exactly what I'm doing but they can support their local farmer's market, work on getting out of debt, grow what they can, make their own products, chill out on the consumerism. We can all do something :)

We're literally fucked (excuse my language) though. We've got so many wars going on it's insane. We're fighting the Illuminati and the NWO, Clinton, GMOs, FBI, CIA, ISIS, World Governments, World Pollution, Rothschilds, Koch brothers, Google, NSA and so many more. I've never been more depressed by the amount of things that we have to fight. Or maybe I'm just slowly realising that the fight is much bigger than I thought before.

Problem is that those in power only stay in power precisely because of what they're doing to the environment. Obama talks about climate change and pollution and then hops in his big dirty plane to fly over. We're abusing our relationship with the KSA and allowing a growth of extremism for oil. China and India are opening new power plants every two weeks. Even if in the US all our energy was solar, wind, water etc...., it won't be enough. And what right do we have to tell sovereign nations like China and India not to do what they're doing re: environment? Nothing. I'll go out and grow fruit and vegetables, but I can't force others to do the same. Unfortunately, the brainwashed mass simply don't care. But I'll try educating them anyway.

"They're out there doing weird Satanic shit, abusing MK ultra slaves, murdering people in war and stealing from the people. These people simply cannot be trusted" Thank you for bringing this up. People need to realize they are sacrificing new born babies on alters with sickening regularity. It is not a coincidence that in my wealthy, bloodline town , there have been hushed rumors of moloch worship. Do you understand what that means? This is eveywhere. This is why I follow this commandment :“You shall not murder." And keep It close to my heart. they don't deserve jail.

Creepy!

"They're out there doing weird Satanic shit, abusing MK ultra slaves, murdering people in war and stealing from the people. These people simply cannot be trusted" Thank you for bringing this up. People need to realize they are sacrificing new born babies on alters with sickening regularity. It is not a coincidence that in my wealthy, bloodline town , there have been hushed rumors of moloch worship. Do you understand what that means? This is eveywhere. This is why I follow this commandment :“You shall not murder." And keep It close to my heart. they don't deserve jail.

I condemn murder not killing however

is it wrong to kill a human who sacrifices babies?

Personally I believe it is not wrong.

I'm not talking about medical abortion.

I am taking about ritualistic sacrfices of living born babies on an alter with the use of swords and knifes.

It pleases demons which in turn grant them favor, money , power , and mind control techniques both literal and spiritual. This "sacrifice" also keeps the world in a lower density keeping the demons hidden and undetected.

Many times. For me though , we play subtle battle against each other. What I see are shadows and "movement" of dark matter. I have intuition which can sense them. I have seen 1 full apparition.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murmur_(demon)

If u click that link you'll see a seal for that demon. I saw that seal on a dollar bill right after I was researching that exact demon because it relates to the music industry.

While walking in the woods in pitch black (same day I found the Bill) I saw an enormous scarecrow on a tree branch, it flew down right in my path in front of me. It was 4 times the size of normal scarecrow. It also made zero sense why I could even see it. It was total darkness. But this thing gave off just a hit of its own light basically.

This demon is said have French military garb with a scarecrow always on his shoulder.

Dark matter to me is a formless ,usually small but can be larger, shadow. Usually only lasting a second but that doenst mean it's just gone, just hiding. There is evidence to their being evil in certain other dark matters. but that gets complex.

If you feel protected then you are which is excellent. Keep your thoughts, intentions, actions pure and their strength and influence grows.

That dollar is spent. I smoke an immoderate amount of marijuana so my funds lack. It's my strange battle. I'm close to winning.

Sometimes they just simply impregnate a woman just to have Her get a standard abortion in the name of Satan. This however is not common among elites.

According to the teachings of Christ, humanity is comprised of the spiritually Living and the spiritually Dead. The Dead are products of this world, subject to its rules, obedient to its standards. They sacrifice spiritual priorities for personal and material pursuits. Meanwhile, the Living are in this world but not of it, they contain an inner quality that transcends worldly factors. We become more one or the other depending on where we place our priorities.

The role of Christ is not to unify the World but to bring total division between the Living and the Dead, not to bring peace but initiate total war between the World and the Kingdom. The role of false dichotomies is to distract us from this higher dualism, to keep us busy making false or irrelevant choices instead of the one that truly counts.

Yeah. Its ok to distsnce yourself from Anyone. The battle is too serious and your mind is too powerful to be influenced with out consequences. We create our own reality.

The real smokescreen in terms of rampant degradation of the environment is blaming the energy sector and accompanying CO2 emissions. CO2 emissions have gone down since 1996, while methane from the agricultural sector has slowly risen.

As the almost completely unregulated agricultural sector finds more ways to cut corners and increase dairy/meat production, "emission factors per head are increasing, [but] emission factors per unit of product are going down."

The multifarious impact the meat industry has is often completely ignored by so called environmentalists because it's something we can actually all combat by changing our lifestyle - way too much real activism for the armchair types. Just as much a conspiracy by the meat lobby as those perpetuated by AIPAC, etc

Right but farming also incurs vast forest clearance for grazing and for growing cattle-grade (non edible for humans) crops - corn, soy etc. The input far exceeds the output, unlike most industrial processes, but this inefficiency is countered by huge government subsidies. If meat actually cost what it takes to produce it would be a luxury item.

You're right - and that's what I was getting at. But use the v word in even the most anti-establishment thread and watch the downvotes cascade.

While environmental issues need to be honestly discussed, they are not the issues that are at the immediate forefront. The true fight is within media control. They want us divided. We all have common grounds, and that is a narrative the media ignores.

Does it not concern you, regardless of the inherent truth that the environment is our most human common ground, that you have to beg people to care about it?

Politics are the reason we legally have to be connected to those centralized power grids, you know.

This person agreed with you, but also very correctly stated that we cannot allow ourselves to get divided because of public tunnel vision of the issues. Then you argued, "Nope", your concerns are the more important ones after all.

I find that the spreading of real content pertaining to things that are actually happening right now is far less distracting and harmful than what is essentially a thread trying to get people to ignore information.

Ignore nothing; please do not preach tunnel vision.

I guess I understand that your core argument is that if we don't fix things, no one will. That is a great mentality to have, and to share, but we cannot forget that we can't fix that which we have no control over.

The political system is most definitely broken. But it is still extremely important. In fact, that's precisely why. It doesn't matter how much lobbying your city's new proposed Big Shitty Riverfront Factory does if the citizens are vigilant and well-informed about the public health hazards. If too much red tape is created for them, Big Shitty Riverfront Factory Inc moves on to scout a different city with more malleable public opinion. This happens all the time.

This sort of tangible result does not come about from a few people tying themselves to trees. It comes from a whole buttload of people yelling nonstop at their local government to drop the contract. And yelling in the correct way that government should be yelled at if they are to be expected to do anything about it.

If you have a shitty bicycle, and it is barely functional, it will still probably be faster for you to ride it to work every day than to walk there. After you get a feel for which aspects of the bicycle are faulty, it becomes easier to ride, because you can avoid those hard left turns that invariably lock the brakes and put you into a ditch. You crash way less when you start paying closer attention to it.

The government is like an old shitty unrepairable bicycle. It sucks but it still beats walking; it's all that you have and you don't have to like it to get it to take you where you want to go. Make an effort to understand it.

I want to know how you think you can solve something like clean water, or a sustainable food source for a community, without involving the government in some way. That may wrongly come off as hostile, but I am always open to the possibility that someone knows something I don't know.

No... It really won't be easy to lobby for anything when you're becoming a threat that could end up costing your local utilities companies that kind of serious money.

Especially when they can easily hire people to snoop online and see the environmental movement being spoken about in the same sentences as suggesting that cell phones are the "mark of the beast". Congratulations, now you're labeled as extremists.

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Ah. Well played. Well played indeed.

What specifically are you talking about? You just say toxins and gmo's like a science illiterate.

i agree; the majority of people are distracted, it doesn't take much to get them to 'look' in one direction. all it takes is a 'celebrity' name mentioned. even if it's not a celeb name, anything blasted on MSM is enough.

EDIT: there are many on this sub that are distracted, they mistakenly think that having a favorite candidate is correct, at the same time they feel the system is rigged, IMO, that doesn't make sense.

I understand your point but politics unfortunately now do affect our health thanks to the unaffordable health care act.

Global water issues are being ignored. Growing pains.