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The EU Parliament in Brussels were today scheduled to discuss the renewal of the Palestinian Peace Process along with the renewal of the approval of glyphosate, the MEPs in Brussels received a timley reminder this morning of what the shadow government are capable of, they will have to be brave to vote against the agenda of the Elite

This is very frightening, I've never understood how israel has so much power. How do they?

Surveillance photo shows 3 terror suspects in Brussels. 2 died in the bombing, the man in the disguise is still on the run.

http://i.imgur.com/eiqSpSp.jpg

Could this be a confidential informant or handler? This type of footage is usually concealed. (7/7, Boston, San Bernardino)

I included this note (but not the photo) in my thread.

What about this Mormon that was in Boston, Paris and now Brussels? https://youtu.be/FxKCqSGewJA?t=46s

That's just crazy. Thanks for the link...

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Evidence?

Hoaxes are difficult to pull off. Hoaxes require immense levels of coordination and everything needs to go correctly for a hoax to work. If you were to pull off a hoax of this magnitude, it would have been entirely necessary to fake the event for whatever reason. Random violence is easy to pull off. Random violence requires basic levels of coordination and even if everything doesn't go to plan you will still cause death and destruction. When you have a standing army of out of work, disillusioned, and religiously controlled young men to do your bidding there is no need to perform a hoax. Just direct your imbeciles to attack a soft target, surrender their lives "for the cause" and reap the benefits, whatever that might be.

It's not helpful to think of the why or the how when "these things" happen. What we really need to be considering is who wanted to pay to make this happen and who gave the order to the imbeciles.

Putting a bomb somewhere is random violence.

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I disagree. It's easier to murder someone than to fake a murder.

IMO the whole "HOAX!" mythos floating around recently is a disinfo campaign that's gone viral to make skeptics look irrational and absurd. Think JTRIG, Cass Sunstein tactics, etc.

It's faaaar easier to just kill people, causing the greatest amount of outrage and plain old rage, than it is to pretend to kill people and pay actors. Absurd, especially considering the deep state creeps behind the terrorism clearly do not give a shit about individual human lives.

I don't want to speak on behalf of everyone, but in general I think when people cry hoax they mean to say is conspiracy. I could be dead wrong and some people might actually argue it was a hoax, but this is just what I think

When most people here say "hoax" about a terror event these days they mean fake blood, people pretending to be hurt/dead, stuff like that.

For example, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9XXO3xZwao&index=7&list=PLorWv5U8Qu2gie7o6FBdFtGaMIXUocAMb

It's faaaar easier to just kill people, causing the greatest amount of outrage and plain old rage, than it is to pretend to kill people and pay actors. Absurd, especially considering the deep state creeps behind the terrorism clearly do not give a shit about individual human lives.

Yes, absolutely! This is my argument every time someone cries hoax. It's easier to just kill people than to pretend to kill people.

I can't remember where I read it, but I heard that one of the reasons hoaxes are used is because the families of dead victims won't stop asking questions. It was the 911 victims families that demanded investigations.

I wish I remember where I got this info...maybe Jon Rappoport but it went along the lines that hoaxes enable the media to steer the narrative better because the mothers of dead victims are relentless in their pursuit for the truth. However, they do make a lot of obvious mistakes with the hoaxes.

Yes, hoaxes have their uses. But the point that needs to be made is that when a hoax is performed, nobody really dies. All of the victims are made up. If someone actually died during the hoax, you can't call it a hoax anymore, you have to call it what it is.

Totally agree. But it's important to try and figure out whether or not people really died. I think 911 was real but Sandy Hook and the Boston Bombing were hoaxes.

But it's important to try and figure out whether or not people really died.

Absolutely. If nobody died, but people think there were mass casualties, then you can call it a hoax. If one person died... it's not a hoax.

With regard to your examples, on 9/11 three buildings came crashing down and lots of people died. Certainly not a hoax. Sandy Hook seemed oddly surreal, and while I have no evidence to support it, I could believe it was a hoax, but I haven't made up my mind. With the Boston bombing, I have had a very odd experience. You see, I was born and raised in Boston, and much of my family and many friends still live there. Out of all the people I know who were at the marathon that day, none of them were near the blasts. Also, and most importantly, out of all of the casualties, nobody I know actually knew any of the victims personally. Literally every inured person who was known by someone that I know was a "friend of a friend that was injured at the marathon". So strange... it could have also been a hoax, I just don't know.

That said, I bet that there have been one or two hoax elements of this grand-scale fear/conditioning campaign that have been put in the MSM's limelight, confusing the situation (probably purposefully).

It's also important to note that false flags and psyops don't imply that people aren't killed. A hoax is very different from a false flag; and false flags don't imply hoaxes or people not dying.

But you are right Dusty, that pseudoskeptics are the ones that try to conflate the two--false flags and hoaxes--in order to use transfer propaganda to transfer the taint of hoax-crying (the dys-empathy, compassionless delusion) onto a legitimate exploration of the event as a false-flag event.

I do believe there are good uses for hoaxes. Pretend bombs are not one of them.

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No... you can't be agreeing with me. I don't believe in hoax attacks. Hoaxes are more useful for other things.

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Not a false flag. Suicide bombers do not do false flags. They are patsies.

I can see the FF/hoax thing getting muddied when you learn that occasionally the alleged kamikazes survive.

Also when you learn that Western military/intelligence forces will trick gullible POWs/collaborators into driving vehicles with explosives into crowded areas with a bogus story about what they are doing and promises of letting them go or rewarding them afterwards.

The problem is that those are the only two possible options, it's either a hoax or a false flag... every time. The world is more complex than that.

I agree with your second sentence, not the first. It's wrong to characterize and discredit the community in that way and to not include the obvious third stance: every "attack" as sold by our media is real.

There has to be more possibilities than that! Hoax, false flag, media manipulation? That's it? No mental illness, no actual terrorism, no criminals?

I'm not saying that. I was countering your characterization of the community as only ever picking between two possibilities.

You can't pigeonhole this community, certainly. I am referring to a particular vocal segment of said community.

For example, this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9XXO3xZwao&index=7&list=PLorWv5U8Qu2gie7o6FBdFtGaMIXUocAMb