Evil
2 2016-03-24 by TheUniverseIsADome
Do you think the world is a naturally evil place?
If so, do you think it is worth living?
2 2016-03-24 by TheUniverseIsADome
Do you think the world is a naturally evil place?
If so, do you think it is worth living?
48 comments
3 El_O_El 2016-03-24
Naturally evil....no. Although I would posit that humanity has been lead astray, by certain negative higher powers, that has tipped the scales in favour of those in control(politicians/elite), who are privately worshippers of Lucifer (aka khazarian controlled elites/politicians/corpos). Is life worth living? Absolutely my friend! You chose to be here, in fact you likely begged to be incarnated at this time, and have some things to do while you are here! While our souls are everlasting, our bodies are temporary.
3 jacks1000 2016-03-24
Define "evil."
3 mrmordicon 2016-03-24
OP please look into Socrates and his thoughts on the human soul and the Cardinal virtues and how they lead to an ordered and effective human being. I believe the question you are asking is the wrong one, it is not one of good and evil but rather one of progress vs repeating the same mistakes
2 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
3 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
What does this even mean? Please clarify.
3 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
Are you spiritual, religious, or atheist?
1 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
Not sure right now but eager to learn.
3 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
Well, I'm more spiritual so that is the angle I'm coming from. Basically we are universal spirits/beings, and each experience (life) is a test. We're all are here for a vary specific purpose (imo). What it is? I have no idea, but this is what I believe. There is no heaven, and there is no hell. Just an infinite loop of experiences designed by the Creator(s) for us.
2 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
What are your ideas on what this purpose is? You must have thought about it and have had some idea.
3 giantfrogfish 2016-03-24
Putin might have a better answer than I but I'm Coming from a place that says there is a capital G God simply put he is the eternal consciousness and we manifest within his consciousness. Best I can see is its our job to please the eternal consciousness. Also don't kill yourself because you will probably just manifest in a worse situation the eternal conscious doesn't like quitters.
4 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
Why doesn't he?
1 giantfrogfish 2016-03-24
I'm probably anthropomorphizing him to much. And when I say him I mean as in masculine not necessarily as male and female. but I would say we're here for a reason each reason is individualistic and that reason isn't to not be here.
2 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
so what is the reason? how can we determine this reason?
2 mr_dong 2016-03-24
Consciousness within humans has another objective on Earth, something we are not yet fully aware of but will have to be learned to save us. We are still learning but time is short.
2 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
My purpose is different than your purpose. You need to look inward. I've gone through some pretty terrible experiences in my life and have made it out. Those trials and tribulations are what lead me to who I am today and what I'm saying to you now. My purpose could very well be to remind people it's just a cosmic ride, idk.
3 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
How can I look inward? What does this process entail? How do I do this?
5 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
Well, the first thing you can do is spend more time in nature. Take a walk in a forest, spend time out there. If you have property/backyard, have a bonfire alone and look up at the stars and think. Try meditation. I don't claim to have the answers, and I'm by no means fully "awake" to what this all means (life). We are all still learning, and trust me, I still am.
2 no1113 2016-03-24
This is why I like you. Namaste,
2 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
Namaste.
1 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
How does this process make me look inward though? Can you explain it to me?
2 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
It reconnects you to nature, where we belong.
1 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
and that makes us look inward because...?
we are nature?
1 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
Give it a try. When you disconnect from the artificial, you begin to think and self reflect. You'll feel a oneness and a connection. Have you ever been completely alone with just your thoughts?
1 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
Yes and it has been very negative.
2 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
At first it can be, but that is what you need to overcome. Why is it negative?
1 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
I don't know. Why do you think it is? It's full of negativity.
2 Putin_loves_cats 2016-03-24
How am I supposed to know your thoughts? You need to ask yourself why.
1 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
You don't actually have to know my specific thoughts to discuss your ideas about why someone's thoughts are negative in general.
1 whipnil 2016-03-24
The phrase look inwards to me means to connect with the heart space and realize you actually know many things you don't think you know. The game is to get out of your head.
As putin says, get out in nature and sit and just be. Don't think, but if you do think, don't worry that you're thinking, but rather just observe your thoughts. Take some nice slow deep breaths and see if you can find a point for your awareness. At first you'll find it localised in your mind, and it will be filled with chatter. As you take the deep breaths and just focus on breathing, see too if you can lower that focal point from inside your head, down a column of energy to inside your chest. Relax, and as your awareness connects with your heart space and slows down to get in cadence with its electromagnetic artifact, let that calmness wash over your body and outwards down your limbs.
As you get better at this, you'll find you can employ this technique when you feel your anxiety level rising and it can abate it. If you have a problem you're worrying about, try this technique and then when you're nice and calm, try to analyze the problem again. You'll find you may now be able to approach it calmer and gain insight into why it affected you so much in the first place.
As you do this work, you'll find you can start to shed your fears and programs that have been brainwashed into you. As you start to shed these fears and anxieties, you'll then come into your power more and more and this will result in your creating a positive reality around you rather than a negative one.
2 giantfrogfish 2016-03-24
Agnostic. Always a good place to start.
2 inbetweentime 2016-03-24
I don't think naturally evil, but there are evil forces. Meanwhile, love doesn't require power. So what we're left with is evil - and not love - striving for power; making the world a more evil place.
To me, it is worth living. It is limitless. We get stuck, but it is limitless. And as Putin said above, I believe we have our purpose.
And it gets a little complicated if there are people in your life who love you, too. There are in mine. So if I chose not to live, would they understand? Probably not. So in my view it would be an evil deed itself; creating lasting suffering for others.
2 FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 2016-03-24
No such thing as good and evil, only balanced. Evil is just the opposite of good. What one perceives as good, another can perceive as evil.
Perspective is everything.
2 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
Interesting. What kind of philosophy is this?
1 FREETHOUGHTSOPEN 2016-03-24
Religion.
2 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
Don't know any religion that preaches there is no such thing as good or evil.
1 no1113 2016-03-24
No. It's not naturally evil. The human beings in it are generally rather underdeveloped spiritually, psychologically, and scientifically speaking, and that makes for a lot of confusion and conflict, but that shouldn't necessarily be called "naturally evil". Just, again, underdeveloped.
I'm not sure the physical manifestation has much of a choice in the matter. Seems we manifested in physical form on this planet at the behest of a greater force than ourselves, and there is a lot of documentation indicating that, similar to a prison sentence, if we try to "escape" this prison by, for example, killing ourselves, we'll just get sent right back with added time tacked on our sentenced for "bad behavior" (i.e. trying to escape).
That said, although life on this planet can indeed be likened to a prison sentence, it can also be looked upon as (and likely is more similar to) a grade in school that one has to go through before one graduates to the next level of education.
So is it worth living? Well, to say it's "worth it" or not is, perhaps, not really accurate. Regardless of whether it's "worth it" or not, life here seems to be more of a process of, again, spiritual evolution that's decided upon before we even get here, and it's decided upon by, perhaps, our greater self and possibly other identities - not our current, limited physical one.
2 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
what documentation?
0 no1113 2016-03-24
Books by Dr. Ian Stevenson, Dr. Elizabeth Kubler Ross, Robert Monroe, and various others all give pieces of indications related to the comment you quoted here.
0 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
I will look into this. Your comments are greatly appreciated.
0 no1113 2016-03-24
No problem. Cheers.
1 Mae-Brussell-Hustler 2016-03-24
Picture the world as potential energy. Now add intention to that energy. Know that this original potential Energy is neither created, nor destroyed.
We create our reality to a certain extent with our thoughts; Dream within a dream sort of matrix.
Like attracts like. Be positive, stay motivated. Learn, share, volunteer, help those in need, be generous & kind.
As Bruce Lee said "Be Like Water My Friend"
https://youtu.be/APx2yFA0-B4
1 redditeditard 2016-03-24
Love is always greater than fear. Hate is not the opposite of love, fear is.
Don't look for the evil. Look for the love and magnify it.
1 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
How can fear be the opposite of love?
-1 laxed 2016-03-24
Mankind is evil by nature. Goodness decided to sacrifice itself and then defeated that evil by coming back to life. As a result, individual humans have been/can be saved, even though humanity as a whole has been lost.
Tomorrow is Good Friday, Sunday is Easter. /r/Christianity would love to have you over
3 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
But won't evil always exist as well? (to balance)
Also, what do you mean by saved?
1 laxed 2016-03-24
Different Christians have different views as to whether evil is needed to balance out good. I do think that evil is here for good, as all humans do bad things and, on a more natural level, there will always be things like entropy preventing perfection in this universe.
The bible tells us, however, that in the end God is going to make "a new heaven and a new earth" and evil (bible says the devil) will be cast in to the "Lake of Fire". (I don't believe in a literal fire lake, but rather an existence devoid of anything good/kind/wholesome. I assume something like that would become extremely painful.) That's in Revelation 21, if you want to read the passage for yourself.
So yes, while I do think both good and evil will always exist, I do not think they will always interact with each other as much as they do in this age.
When I said defeated, I did not mean evil was wiped-out, but overcome. I hope I'll explain that a little more here as I write about what I mean by saved.
In my first comment, I said mankind is evil by nature. We all live our lives from a mental place of selfishness and imperfection. (It's why, for example, it took me so long to actually sit down and respond to your questions. Thank you for the reminder, by the way.)
Evil desires and actions are something we cannot escape.
However, the whole point of Jesus (fully God, fully man, completely without evil, the primary distinction between Christianity and Islam, and another topic entirely) dying as a sacrifice was so that we don't have to take the spiritual punishment for our evilness.
In the short term, that spiritual punishment might perhaps manifest in such things as constant, ungodly ;-) levels of anger or sorrow. In the long term, however, that spiritual punishment is the aforementioned Lake of Fire.
I guess if I were to put it briefly, I meant saved from the end result of evil: the lack of good.
I'm sorry if this was all over the place and/or hard to follow. I'm very sorry if you still don't understand. I'm not used to writing/talking about my theological beliefs.
Disclaimer: Some details of what I said may be heretical and not what good, sound Christianity believes. If I did, it's probably because of a lack of research. The overall message, however, is truth.
Recommended Reading: Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John; Romans
Again, I'm sorry I didn't get around to this sooner. Have a happy Easter!
(Jesus coming back to life is important because it shows that He really is/was God. The resurrection is basically the linchpin of Christianity. Without it, everything is meaningless. We would be stuck at "We are so evil, we even had God killed, so what's the point." Ultimately, the point of it all is that Good is more powerful and overall better than Evil.)
1 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
Thanks for the wonderful reply but I still don't understand this part.
But why would you want this? Won't it be better to partake in the vices forever? (as evil would always exist as well?)
How do you arrive at this conclusion?
3 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
Please answer my question below.
3 TheUniverseIsADome 2016-03-24
How can I look inward? What does this process entail? How do I do this?
0 no1113 2016-03-24
Books by Dr. Ian Stevenson, Dr. Elizabeth Kubler Ross, Robert Monroe, and various others all give pieces of indications related to the comment you quoted here.