Yup, and any discussion gets downvoted and dismissed as "this is what makes us look bad". That little comment bugs the fuck out of me. This is a conspiracy forum, we already are seen as crazies, so who the fuck cares what the masses think of us? The masses have been and always will be ignorant.

Couldn't agree more. I think it could be a coordinated effort to push people away from fringe theories to more "kosher" theories. Talking about JFK/FED/9-11, kosher. Talking about electric universe, hollow earth, fringe science, alternative 9/11 theories, occult/esoteric, fringe history, etc etc... "This is what makes us look bad". Therefore others will not even entertain it. Many "conspiracy theorists" are just as close minded as the people they call "sheep".

Yup. That video of the long haired guy walking and talking on the beach about the pineal gland would be a great example. I enjoyed that video but it didn't get much love here from what I remember...

seems to have fallen on deaf ears.

Which is what TPTB want. People not looking into these things.

I know, and agree with what you are saying. Hopefully more will open their eyes and minds. Cheers!

How do you get an alien next to your name?

Mod Powers.

Lotta dong

and /r/C_S_T, for conspiracy 'hypotheses'.... not enough data for theory but a "I noticed this trend and someone tell me if I'm being foolish'

like those wifi devices now attached across the electric utility wires or what's the green led box attached near the base of electric utility poles

The green light box has my attention. See 'em everywhere.

Can you please post it? I'm interested in seeing it

/u/mr_dong posted it, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4062gm/the_sacred_science_of_the_pineal_glandthe/

don't forget flat earth silly. If one can ponder hollow earth, then you should not turn the other way due to your pre conceived notions of said flat earth. There is A LOT of neat quirks about FE. One being you can make provable observations to give you a foundation of flat earth/ among the fact you can't trust ABC agencies w your perceived reality. FE is my fav.

provable observations

Do tell.

You're totally right, and there has definitely been a push towards the more 'acceptable' theories...but at the same time I often found myself arguing against those fringe theorists because 90% of the time their only supporting evidence is how 'cool' the idea sounds. Then they act offended or resort to 'wake up sheeple' tactics when they're unable to defend any part of their ideas.

It'll go away after November when a puppet, I mean President, is picked. Same deal happened to this sub 4 years ago. Just give it 8 more months

hear hear

Yes and it's annoying as fuck. I don't know how people can give such a shit about the elections when they're so obviously rigged.

You don't think it's possible, just maybe, that rigged elections might be a somewhat relevant topic of discussion in a place like r/conspiracy?

Of course it's relevant, but do we really need a bunch of people that are really only disaffected Bernie, Hillary, or Trump supporters only interested in "their team" being affected by it? That's what a lot of these articles cater to. You have to be a Democrat or Republican to give a massive shit.

I think there's those who are genuinely interested in discussing a rigged system, but then there's those that just want to vindicate their own warped beliefs that the system is stacked against "their team" and they aren't looking at the larger picture. And yet, they continue supporting these traitorous political parties. The solution is to stop putting these people into office and rewarding their corrupt parties.

I feel like this happens every election season, and yet, people are still voting for Democrats and Republicans. We never see this much "conspiracy" content even dedicated to actual third parties. People balk at third party voices, vote for the two majors, and then bitch about how corrupt they are. That's the real insanity if you ask me.

Cryptome - A Gentleperson's Guide to Forum Spies

Forum sliding and topic dilution. All of the irrelevant posts are voted up, and the relevant posts are voted down. Trump voted up, AE911 voted down.

Consensus cracking. Obviously implausible subjects, such as Flat Earth or Lizard Illuminati, are brought up in an attempt to divide and conquer the users. Fake accounts additionally gaslight the remaining users, to make them either doubt their own judgment, or to stop participating completely despite their disagreement.

Information collection. "What's your favorite conspiracy?" "What conspiracy do you not believe in?" These techniques help the forums sliders know which subjects to drown, and which less popular subjects to promote.

Gaining Full Control - weren't some moderators removed and added lately?

It happened here. And it can happen anywhere else. Make too much noise, and someone will look to silence you.

You know the game well- especially how you claim ae911 gets down voted (I've noticed the opposite with the ae911 mob and their copy pastas and feigned back and forths between 'different' users) and your insistence on lumping reptillians with flat earth as obviously implausible.

nformation collection. "What's your favorite conspiracy?" "What conspiracy do you not believe in?" These techniques help the forums sliders know which subjects to drown, and which less popular subjects to promote.

I knew it! I'm glad others are picking up on this ... info collection

Im under the impression the conspiracy forums get flooded with mainstream politics in order to gage opinions and ideas of fringe thinkers. Once they figure out how you are responding, they will have a better rounded form of blanket media that even the "crazies" accept. Your responses are surely being analyzed and categorized. We are the hardest crowd to sway. Thats why. We all understand that politics are "important" but don't lose sight of how you are contributing to the conversations.

Are there ANY good forums? Like that are active?

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There's some.

Any suggestions?

This place (sometimes).

/r/C_S_T (all the time).

/r/C_S_T is definitely one of my favorites. Some really out-there but albeit very plausible and interesting theories are brought up there. I really appreciate what you and the mods over there do to keep it running.

Thank you for the kind words.

We aren't done yet - soon to be entering Phase 3.

Long days & pleasant nights, brother.

Long days & pleasant nights, brother.

Right back at ya!

I admit I'm not really one to focus on the fringe topics.. But one thing I would actually like to see someone dig up information about is stars occulting the moon, aka stars being seen through the dark side of the moon... And furthermore, why the symbol of Islam depicts a star occulting the moon...

Go on

This basically describes the theory behind it. It used references from the 1700s, 1800s where people have recorded seeing this sort of thing. Naturally, we're not going to have much, if any, modern evidence of this since the majority of the world is deadset on the idea that the moon is a sphere capable of being landed on..

Thanks ! Never heard of this I'll check it out. When Randall Carlson was on joe rogan one time joe asked about the moon and Randall cryptically said that that would be a whole other show. Got me very curious indeed.

The connection to the crescent and the star is definitely intriguing as well. I've recently been introduced to the idea that the all the major religious symbols weren't always separated by the different religions. This is very evident in many works of art that depict both the cross the crescent and the Star of David simultaneously.

I know that the Star of David never had anything to do with David or Israel. I've read that the earliest known use of it was with Arab magicians. And coincidentally, the Bible mentions the Jews taking up the Star of their god Remphan, aka Chiun and Moloch.

I find that Islam and Judaism are far more intertwined than most people realize. I don't understand it. But from an article I saw on this sub a while back, the Saudis being formerly Jewish is apparently a thing.

As far as the cross goes, I'm not sure if it had roots in paganism.. Or if it came from the ancient hebrew alphabet .. See the 2nd to last letter. It can sometimes mean "to seal a covenant", which is exactly what Christ did.

And then there's a dream my mother had 5+ years ago that makes me really wonder about Islam and the purpose of the star and crescent.. But that's not anything anyone would consider official evidence, so lol.

I'd be much more concerned with allowing the thread stickies of official narratives - and the obvious brigading therein.

Maybe your mod team should stop deleting every post that attempts to start discussions on this subreddit, for example: https://np.reddit.com/r/uncensorship/comments/4bzqlk

I know you love your black triangles my man (by far my favorite dongism).

I'l promise you some OC if you point me in a particular direction.

Just give me a push.

With the obvious stifling by reddit moderators on popular subreddits has caused r/conspiracy to become a place where sort of every redditor knows "if it is being censored on polular subreddits, it wont be on r/conspiracy". I think that the most important conspiracy is the one affecting everyone's lives, and thus more people can relate. Lets use the lastest crisis in Flint Michigan as a prime example: a situation were a high ranked government official saved the state money by rerouting poisonous water to a poor area and covered it up using tax payer funds and trust as a means to essentially "get away with it" until concerned citizens took action. This is an act which actually affects people and was carried out and attempted to be covered up by an elected official. This is information that not only shows the discontent elected officials have for the people who elect them, but the shady and damaging tactics that they take in order to generate more profit. This is the complete opposite of what elected officials are elected to do; represent the people who vote for them.

The aforementioned shouldn't even be a conspiracy, it should just be news, and the fact that it is deemed a conspiracy until proven true should just go to show how messed up a society we live in. When scientific fact gets misconstrued as conspiracy because the actual facts are so brazen that they couldn't possibly be true until they are shows just how powerful money is compared to factual information.

Don't get me wrong, i love the fringe topics, and i think once your own rabbit hole gets deeper you are left with a pot of fringe conclusions because that is where the logical conclusions lie; but this place has become a source for real news amongst a plethora of obvious propaganda. I think the fact that most who visit r/conspiracy for real news should make us fear what we are told is news.

this exact reason is what drifted me over to places like:

/r/highstrangeness

/r/UFOs

/r/C_S_T

I feel this right here is very worthy of this sub and fits well with the "non politics" topics you bring up here.

You seem like a pretty obvious shill

lol. Wat? Why? Please explain. Don't just say that. Again, lol. Explain yourself.

EDIT: Aaaaand nothing. No response. Hmm. Wonder who the real shill is here after all.

Hit me up if necessary.

Was about to remove for the S word. But I'll let you play for a bit.

Na. Don't remove them. Let them explain themselves right out in the open for everyone to see and understand what they mean and are talking about.

...cuz I sure as hell don't know where they're coming from calling me a "shill" either actually.

As you wish. I work for you my man.

jcp mod is best mod

Thankee Sai.

Thank you, sir. Some of us try to work for the benefit of spreading information in this sub and trying to educate ourselves as well.

Thumbs up.

We both know the tangled web we weave.

It's good to see familar usernames hee still goin' at it. I'm going to be rearranging my schedule to play here a bit more.

See ya around.

Its a concerted effort to push any sort of political discussion into the realm of conspiracy theory. This pushes other issues even further off the spectrum. Similar to what happened to the rep. and dem. parties.

I believe in Aliens, and alien contact, but I do find it interesting that now that we all have amazing cameras with us all the time, we don't have more footage.

My only explanation is that maybe aliens understand that we now have the technology to record in HD and avoid being recorded, why? I don't know.

For me, this didn't happen because of government activity, but simply because UFOlogy has dug its' own grave. The UFO scene has been a talk show circuit and a vaudevillian sideshow for at least five years now. It's been completely taken over by con artists. I used to listen to said people on Project Camelot. They tell interesting stories at first, but then you quickly realise that they are full of shit and they just want everyone's money.

I ended up finding out that most of the cryptozoology cases I ever looked into were hoaxes, as well. I haven't become a complete pseudoskeptic by any means; but at this point I think a lot less weird shit regularly happens than I used to. It doesn't happen in every single case, but most strange stories tend to come from someone who wants money, attention/validation/narcissistic supply, or both.

The problem with this sub is some of the people are anti science, anti discussion and very pro sound bites with links to biased websites. And they just happen to be the noisiest.

If you want to discuss a CT be prepared to back it up with real science and not links to natural news.

The amount if times topics appear on here with the only source being natural news, you ask them for more evidence and you get downvoted to death and flamed. Remember you are trying to persuade me, so the burden of proof lies with you the poster.

Now a lot of you need to learn the ability to distinguish the difference between a critical discussion and personal attacks. The majority of the time most of you can't and you assume that because people are asking questions they are attacking you, which is not the case.

If you want to make this sub a better place, stop squashing discussion, stop being anti science, stop using fringe sites as proof and stop assuming everyone is attacking you.

The problem imo is that "science" as commonly referred to has been hijacked to death and does no justice to rationality on many matters where money can be involved ( pharma cons etc ).

And when it can't refute something it simply ignores it nowadays.

Not saying everything we read is true, just applying "science" for our understanding on the topics that CT deals with is pretty hard.

there are many facets of alternative medias that make me shake my head, but so is in actual science. On average is equally or more fucked up for money.

Yeah, it's a conspiracy. Aliens did it.

Hit me up if necessary.

Was about to remove for the S word. But I'll let you play for a bit.

You don't think it's possible, just maybe, that rigged elections might be a somewhat relevant topic of discussion in a place like r/conspiracy?