Its all just a distraction so we dont focus on what's really going on. Every time something major like this happens, people start focusing on that. Meanwhile, no one is keeping an eye on what our government is doing.
I was thinking more along the lines of the TPP or the fact Obama wants to send troops to Syria while denying to have ever said "No boots on the ground in Syria." (there are videos of him saying this) Maybe to hide the fact that China now has a gold backed currency. Frankly anything that doesn't have anything to do with the election. Imo, it seems like every time something major hits MSM, it's usually covering up something greater.
In case you missed it, I will spell it out loud and clear, please pay attention! This will not sit well with the administrators or moderators!
1) r/Conspiracy has methodically been introduced to C3ns0rsh!p policies under the guise of p0lit!cal c0rrectne55, thereby slowly cooking the proverbial frog. Since Reddit was bought by Advanced Publications it has moved towards a more mainstream corporate mass media style of c3ns0rsh!p, !nf0rmati0n c0ntr0l and p|20paganda.
2) All of Reddit, including r/Conspiracy, now has a fully automatized algorithm system in place to detect and c3ns0r any n3gat!ve/revealing/damaging information about the US !ntelligence C0mmun!ty, US government, corporations, financial industry and key political figures. The algorithms scan for specific words, wordings and flagged links to alternative media outlets. If an undesirable element is detected, the system will automatically remove or discretely r!g the vot!ng pr0cess.
3) As many of us has already notices, if you post something controversial truthful about the 9-11 attacks, illegal NSA surveillance, crimes committed by the CIA/FBI/Law enforcement agencies, financial crimes, economical inequality or US war crimes and genocides it will properly not end up the front page. And let us not forget the legions 5h!lls and 9und!ts. Reddit controls the process minute by minute, the slip ups are getting fewer and far between, and they refine their already sophisticated methods for every day that passes by. The days when you could easily detect hamfisted blatant c3nsorsh!p attempts are over.
4) The first thing Advanced Publications did was to introduce a new and marvelous CE0, then they proceeded to removed all the troublesome administrators, after which they continued the process and removed all the undesirable moderators. And there was much drama!
5) Then the ban-wagon finally hit the r/conspiracy forum, deliberately purging the intelligentsia, people who tended to post quality posts with lots of data and statistics, during and shortly after the height of the Mr. 5n0wd3n scandal, thus turning the forum into an echo camper for fools and idiots.
6) Since the "great purges" the r/conspiracy forum has been absolutely spammed with racist anti-Jewish posts, often making up 20% of the volume on the front page, and the moderators are doing absolute nothing about it. On top of that legions of 9und!ts and 5H!ll5 has been allowed to down vote and 5pam any undesirable posts.
And this, my friends, is how the 0l!garch5 control r/conspiracy forum. This is how the 0l!garch5 has taken control of all the c0rp0rat3 0wn3d ma55 m3d!
I agree that reddit is full of propaganda from all sides and that this sub isn't immune to it, but at least one of your points is just blatantly false. Specifically #2, there is no "fully automatized algorithm system in place" on this sub to remove posts. If you have any evidence of one by all means, let's see it. I know that you don't have any though, because nothing like that exists here. The only thing comparable which maybe has you confused is reddit's sitewide automod which does automatically remove posts from certain websites (like naturalnews, infowars, etc.). We approve all of those posts manually though and are one of the very few subs that do.
The only thing comparable which maybe has you confused is reddit's sitewide automod which does automatically remove posts from certain websites (like naturalnews, infowars, etc.). We approve all of those posts manually though and are one of the very few subs that do.
Exactly, but you are only scratching the surface. Downplaying the fact itself?
1) In certain forums, if you use certain word or phrases, tested by multiple independent sources, you post will automatically get the "treatment". This is not theory or conspiracy, this has been proven again and again and again, pretending otherwise is just borderline r@@@@@@d.
2) Blocking none corporate new media outlets might be the most blatant form of censorship. This is how the owners of Reddit, Advanced Publications keep the official narrative of the corporate owned mass media going, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Why have a voting mechanism at all ... I might as well get drunk and watch Fox News?!
3) Armies, hordes and legions of sh!lls and Pund!ts. One or two years ago happened from time to time, I fondly remember a few times when I raised a voice of concern against Mansanto pesticides often resulting in -50 down votes within the hour, nowadays they are more sophisticated and subtle in their methods.
4) I have seen with my own eyes and talked to people getting banned for posting information about the intelligence community and their crimes against the American people. About 2-3 weeks later the censors finally gave up and the "Snowden scandal" broke the headlines. Absolutely abhorrent censorship. I almost quit Reddit that day. The rest is history...
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice sham on me.
I don't really disagree with any of your points here, there's obviously manipulation and censorship on reddit. All I was saying is that there is no algorithm in place on this sub to automatically remove posts. Anything that gets deleted by reddit's sitewide automod is manually approved by the mods here on this sub.
All I was saying is that there is no algorithm in place on this sub to automatically remove posts. Anything that gets deleted by reddit's sitewide automod is manually approved by the mods here on this sub.
We will never know. (Personally) I don't think the lowly moderators are part of the inner circle, they are just useful idiots, happy amateurs doodling around. God bless them.
I can see that 10-20% of the volume on the front page, more or less all the time, is nothing more than racist anti-Jewish slurs. The moderators never touch them. But I can assure you that if you post something new and revealing from the "alternative" or "independent" media about the most recent crime spree of the TBTF financial institutions, you will not reach the front page easily. Or about the USA, Turkey or Saudi Arabia transporting soldiers, ammunition, supplies and weapons into Syria. Or about the NSA committing crimes, covering up crimes or lying about them under oath. Or Google/Apple/Microsoft/Reddit applying 100% and working together with the NSA.
It is a painful process of dumping down the conversation, reducing it to trivia, sports and celebrity gossip, and sparing the feelings of the supposedly opinionated majority. I guess I differentiate myself by actually trusting "the people" and opposing censorship. I know... crazy!
Yeah but mods have no impact on what reaches the front page and what doesn't. That's dependent on the voting or some hidden mechanism that only the admins would know about (like if they weight the votes differently for certain subjects or something). Now obviously the voting on reddit as a whole and also on this sub is being manipulated and isn't reliable, and certain groups or marketers or shills or whoever else can and do influence what makes it to the top and what doesn't, but that isn't the mods' fault.
I guess I differentiate myself by actually trusting "the people" and opposing censorship. I know... crazy!
Not crazy at all. Again I agree with you. Just trying to explain how this sub works. Carry on sir.
Yeah but mods have no impact on what reaches the front page and what doesn't.
What I know is this: I made some research. The front page of r/conspiracy is nothing more than a sad sad parody of its former self. Strictly speaking I don't know if it is an algorithm or a very very zealous Administrator. In the end it doesn't matter, the outcome remains the exact same.
I have spoken to a few moderators about censorship. Most of them seemed fairly ... indifferent and ignorant ... they couldn't care less. A few moderator will try to deny the fact. One moderator actually admitted and wrote to me about it, a honest and straight forward conversation, but ended up deleting our conversation.
"How" is not the important question - "why" and "who" is much much more interesting.
Strictly speaking I don't know if it is an algorithm or a very very zealous Administrator. In the end it doesn't matter, the outcome remains the exact same.
I think it's an active campaign from one or more groups to upvote certain posts and bury others. I don't know how organized it is or who the people doing the voting are, but the manipulation of vote totals is widespread and quite obvious. There's a reason the top post is always something about political theater or race relations or police brutality or any other divisive, surface-level topic. I think there are people who have programs to control multiple accounts and use them to brigade certain threads. Some probably have some type of technology that alerts them to certain keywords too, so for example anything about 9/11 maybe gets an auto 5 downvotes when it's posted. I have no proof of any of this but it's my best guess based on the evidence.
It's just too easy to manipulate votes on this site for us to assume it isn't being done. And then add all of the evidence of vote manipulation and online shilling and it's impossible for anyone with their eyes open to deny.
Who then censors information about the US military, intelligence community, TBTF financial institutions?
The obvious assumption is that it's either these entities themselves or people/groups doing their bidding for them. Spooks are everywhere, shills are everywhere, "marketers" and propagandists are everywhere. I mean... who else would it be who wants to censor that info if not the people who are implicated by it?
Why does this kind of censorship coincide so well with the corporate owned mass medias own agenda?
Because the same entities above own the mass media as well.
How are the parties involved in this sort of censorship able to coordinate their efforts so well?
Because they have all the money and technology in the world and are highly organized and compartmentalized. reddit is also a very easy site to spread propaganda on because all the users are anonymous and what gets seen is determined by voting which can also be done anonymously and uses algorithms that only the admins and developers have access to. And if you have the software to do it you could easily control 5, 10, 20 accounts yourself and help guide the narrative however you wanted to. Now imagine a team of people with this same software and you can imagine how easy it would be to influence.
Who pay for it?
The military/banking/industrial/intelligence complex probably, the same "who" from your first bullet point. And ultimately you and I probably pay for a lot of it with our own tax money.
Most of this has been pretty obvious to me for a long time with regards to reddit - why are you asking me these questions? Maybe I'm missing something.
Thank you for your time and effort, it was sincerely appreciated. We either share the same delusion (???) or we see the same trend unfolding. At least I am not alone! :-D
You are not. And it isn't a delusion. reddit when I first joined was a much different place - the invention of subreddits was the beginning of the end. The final nail in the coffin was when they took away the ability to see upvote and downvote totals on comments, made vote brigading much easier.
Who then censors information about the US military, intelligence community, TBTF financial institutions?
The people you just listed.
Why does this kind of censorship coincide so well with the corporate owned mass medias own agenda?
Because corporations may "own" them, but the deep state controls them. Who is the deep state? The shadow government. The people you did not elect to do the things you did not desire to be done.
There are boundaries even for the media, and those higher up get to set those boundaries.
How are the parties involved in this sort of censorship able to coordinate their efforts so well?
How did the hundreds of thousands working on the Manhattan Project keep quiet? Propaganda, blackmail and fat paychecks.
6) Since the "great purges" the r/conspiracy forum has been absolutely spammed with racist anti-Jewish posts, often making up 20% of the volume on the front page, and the moderators are doing absolute nothing about it. On top of that legions of 9und!ts and 5H!ll5 has been allowed to down vote and 5pam any undesirable posts.
Wait, when did a mod suggest that? It has never been removed or even reported according to the log... *(not to mention it definitely hasn't been a month since that post)
I hope you're just confused and not fearmongering.
Dusty fighting the good right! Pointing out minor errors in titles as if that will change the world!
Bending the truth is an especially stupid move if you want to be taken seriously with what you're doing. Just trying to help you, as usual, and as usual you get all huffy about it. Meh.
You have displayed a clear pattern which shows me that you have a problem with taking constructive criticism. I'm about done trying to help you with your effort. :/
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6 Johnny-Skitzo 2016-04-26
Its all just a distraction so we dont focus on what's really going on. Every time something major like this happens, people start focusing on that. Meanwhile, no one is keeping an eye on what our government is doing.
2 [deleted] 2016-04-26
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5 Johnny-Skitzo 2016-04-26
I was thinking more along the lines of the TPP or the fact Obama wants to send troops to Syria while denying to have ever said "No boots on the ground in Syria." (there are videos of him saying this) Maybe to hide the fact that China now has a gold backed currency. Frankly anything that doesn't have anything to do with the election. Imo, it seems like every time something major hits MSM, it's usually covering up something greater.
2 JedYorks 2016-04-26
Obama only does what his handlers tell him
2 Johnny-Skitzo 2016-04-26
His actions have been awfully quiet for some time though, don't you think?
1 [deleted] 2016-04-26
Can you verify this, please? I've heard rumors but wasn't aware it actually happened yet.
1 Johnny-Skitzo 2016-04-26
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/18/l-todd-wood-day-china-says-its-currency-backed-gol/
2 Denmark1976 2016-04-26
Reddit
In case you missed it, I will spell it out loud and clear, please pay attention! This will not sit well with the administrators or moderators!
1) r/Conspiracy has methodically been introduced to C3ns0rsh!p policies under the guise of p0lit!cal c0rrectne55, thereby slowly cooking the proverbial frog. Since Reddit was bought by Advanced Publications it has moved towards a more mainstream corporate mass media style of c3ns0rsh!p, !nf0rmati0n c0ntr0l and p|20paganda.
2) All of Reddit, including r/Conspiracy, now has a fully automatized algorithm system in place to detect and c3ns0r any n3gat!ve/revealing/damaging information about the US !ntelligence C0mmun!ty, US government, corporations, financial industry and key political figures. The algorithms scan for specific words, wordings and flagged links to alternative media outlets. If an undesirable element is detected, the system will automatically remove or discretely r!g the vot!ng pr0cess.
3) As many of us has already notices, if you post something
controversialtruthful about the 9-11 attacks, illegal NSA surveillance, crimes committed by the CIA/FBI/Law enforcement agencies, financial crimes, economical inequality or US war crimes and genocides it will properly not end up the front page. And let us not forget the legions 5h!lls and 9und!ts. Reddit controls the process minute by minute, the slip ups are getting fewer and far between, and they refine their already sophisticated methods for every day that passes by. The days when you could easily detect hamfisted blatant c3nsorsh!p attempts are over.4) The first thing Advanced Publications did was to introduce a new and marvelous CE0, then they proceeded to removed all the troublesome administrators, after which they continued the process and removed all the undesirable moderators. And there was much drama!
5) Then the ban-wagon finally hit the r/conspiracy forum, deliberately purging the intelligentsia, people who tended to post quality posts with lots of data and statistics, during and shortly after the height of the Mr. 5n0wd3n scandal, thus turning the forum into an echo camper for fools and idiots.
6) Since the "great purges" the r/conspiracy forum has been absolutely spammed with racist anti-Jewish posts, often making up 20% of the volume on the front page, and the moderators are doing absolute nothing about it. On top of that legions of 9und!ts and 5H!ll5 has been allowed to down vote and 5pam any undesirable posts.
And this, my friends, is how the 0l!garch5 control r/conspiracy forum. This is how the 0l!garch5 has taken control of all the c0rp0rat3 0wn3d ma55 m3d!
1 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-04-26
I agree that reddit is full of propaganda from all sides and that this sub isn't immune to it, but at least one of your points is just blatantly false. Specifically #2, there is no "fully automatized algorithm system in place" on this sub to remove posts. If you have any evidence of one by all means, let's see it. I know that you don't have any though, because nothing like that exists here. The only thing comparable which maybe has you confused is reddit's sitewide automod which does automatically remove posts from certain websites (like naturalnews, infowars, etc.). We approve all of those posts manually though and are one of the very few subs that do.
1 Denmark1976 2016-04-26
Exactly, but you are only scratching the surface. Downplaying the fact itself?
1) In certain forums, if you use certain word or phrases, tested by multiple independent sources, you post will automatically get the "treatment". This is not theory or conspiracy, this has been proven again and again and again, pretending otherwise is just borderline r@@@@@@d.
2) Blocking none corporate new media outlets might be the most blatant form of censorship. This is how the owners of Reddit, Advanced Publications keep the official narrative of the corporate owned mass media going, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Why have a voting mechanism at all ... I might as well get drunk and watch Fox News?!
3) Armies, hordes and legions of sh!lls and Pund!ts. One or two years ago happened from time to time, I fondly remember a few times when I raised a voice of concern against Mansanto pesticides often resulting in -50 down votes within the hour, nowadays they are more sophisticated and subtle in their methods.
4) I have seen with my own eyes and talked to people getting banned for posting information about the intelligence community and their crimes against the American people. About 2-3 weeks later the censors finally gave up and the "Snowden scandal" broke the headlines. Absolutely abhorrent censorship. I almost quit Reddit that day. The rest is history...
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice sham on me.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-04-26
I don't really disagree with any of your points here, there's obviously manipulation and censorship on reddit. All I was saying is that there is no algorithm in place on this sub to automatically remove posts. Anything that gets deleted by reddit's sitewide automod is manually approved by the mods here on this sub.
1 Denmark1976 2016-04-26
We will never know. (Personally) I don't think the lowly moderators are part of the inner circle, they are just useful idiots, happy amateurs doodling around. God bless them.
I can see that 10-20% of the volume on the front page, more or less all the time, is nothing more than racist anti-Jewish slurs. The moderators never touch them. But I can assure you that if you post something new and revealing from the "alternative" or "independent" media about the most recent crime spree of the TBTF financial institutions, you will not reach the front page easily. Or about the USA, Turkey or Saudi Arabia transporting soldiers, ammunition, supplies and weapons into Syria. Or about the NSA committing crimes, covering up crimes or lying about them under oath. Or Google/Apple/Microsoft/Reddit applying 100% and working together with the NSA.
It is a painful process of dumping down the conversation, reducing it to trivia, sports and celebrity gossip, and sparing the feelings of the supposedly opinionated majority. I guess I differentiate myself by actually trusting "the people" and opposing censorship. I know... crazy!
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-04-26
Yeah but mods have no impact on what reaches the front page and what doesn't. That's dependent on the voting or some hidden mechanism that only the admins would know about (like if they weight the votes differently for certain subjects or something). Now obviously the voting on reddit as a whole and also on this sub is being manipulated and isn't reliable, and certain groups or marketers or shills or whoever else can and do influence what makes it to the top and what doesn't, but that isn't the mods' fault.
Not crazy at all. Again I agree with you. Just trying to explain how this sub works. Carry on sir.
1 Denmark1976 2016-04-26
What I know is this: I made some research. The front page of r/conspiracy is nothing more than a sad sad parody of its former self. Strictly speaking I don't know if it is an algorithm or a very very zealous Administrator. In the end it doesn't matter, the outcome remains the exact same.
I have spoken to a few moderators about censorship. Most of them seemed fairly ... indifferent and ignorant ... they couldn't care less. A few moderator will try to deny the fact. One moderator actually admitted and wrote to me about it, a honest and straight forward conversation, but ended up deleting our conversation.
"How" is not the important question - "why" and "who" is much much more interesting.
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-04-26
I think it's an active campaign from one or more groups to upvote certain posts and bury others. I don't know how organized it is or who the people doing the voting are, but the manipulation of vote totals is widespread and quite obvious. There's a reason the top post is always something about political theater or race relations or police brutality or any other divisive, surface-level topic. I think there are people who have programs to control multiple accounts and use them to brigade certain threads. Some probably have some type of technology that alerts them to certain keywords too, so for example anything about 9/11 maybe gets an auto 5 downvotes when it's posted. I have no proof of any of this but it's my best guess based on the evidence.
It's just too easy to manipulate votes on this site for us to assume it isn't being done. And then add all of the evidence of vote manipulation and online shilling and it's impossible for anyone with their eyes open to deny.
1 Denmark1976 2016-04-26
I agree. So far so good. We are talking about degrees of censorship and information control.
Who then censors information about the US military, intelligence community, TBTF financial institutions?
Why does this kind of censorship coincide so well with the corporate owned mass medias own agenda?
How are the parties involved in this sort of censorship able to coordinate their efforts so well?
Who pay for it?
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-04-26
The obvious assumption is that it's either these entities themselves or people/groups doing their bidding for them. Spooks are everywhere, shills are everywhere, "marketers" and propagandists are everywhere. I mean... who else would it be who wants to censor that info if not the people who are implicated by it?
Because the same entities above own the mass media as well.
Because they have all the money and technology in the world and are highly organized and compartmentalized. reddit is also a very easy site to spread propaganda on because all the users are anonymous and what gets seen is determined by voting which can also be done anonymously and uses algorithms that only the admins and developers have access to. And if you have the software to do it you could easily control 5, 10, 20 accounts yourself and help guide the narrative however you wanted to. Now imagine a team of people with this same software and you can imagine how easy it would be to influence.
The military/banking/industrial/intelligence complex probably, the same "who" from your first bullet point. And ultimately you and I probably pay for a lot of it with our own tax money.
Most of this has been pretty obvious to me for a long time with regards to reddit - why are you asking me these questions? Maybe I'm missing something.
1 Denmark1976 2016-04-26
Thank you for your time and effort, it was sincerely appreciated. We either share the same delusion (???) or we see the same trend unfolding. At least I am not alone! :-D
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-04-26
You are not. And it isn't a delusion. reddit when I first joined was a much different place - the invention of subreddits was the beginning of the end. The final nail in the coffin was when they took away the ability to see upvote and downvote totals on comments, made vote brigading much easier.
Peace my man.
1 ragecry 2016-04-26
Just for fun...
The people you just listed.
Because corporations may "own" them, but the deep state controls them. Who is the deep state? The shadow government. The people you did not elect to do the things you did not desire to be done.
There are boundaries even for the media, and those higher up get to set those boundaries.
How did the hundreds of thousands working on the Manhattan Project keep quiet? Propaganda, blackmail and fat paychecks.
You :)
1 Juan__Lennon 2016-04-26
2 Juan__Lennon 2016-04-26
Absolute irony. NutritionResearch, I can honestly say, you've never done anything worthy of even an ounce of trust here. Quite the contrary.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4pZhwBtTtDc/TsWkh5NW8VI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/v0uqZ4bKJHQ/s1600/absolut-politician.jpg
1 TheGhostOfDusty 2016-04-26
Wait, when did a mod suggest that? It has never been removed or even reported according to the log... *(not to mention it definitely hasn't been a month since that post)
I hope you're just confused and not fearmongering.
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1 TheGhostOfDusty 2016-04-26
Oh yeah, I remember that modmail now. I didn't see the sreen, just that it wasn't showing as having been approved. Perhaps SM was mistaken?
And you can't claim "monthly reminder" when it's twice in the same month... heh
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1 TheGhostOfDusty 2016-04-26
Whatever you gotta tell yourself man. Neither post was removed. I'm just pointing out inaccuracies and half-truths like I usually do.
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1 TheGhostOfDusty 2016-04-26
Bending the truth is an especially stupid move if you want to be taken seriously with what you're doing. Just trying to help you, as usual, and as usual you get all huffy about it. Meh.
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1 TheGhostOfDusty 2016-04-26
Nope.
I learn from mistakes and I like to think that others do too.
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1 TheGhostOfDusty 2016-04-26
You have displayed a clear pattern which shows me that you have a problem with taking constructive criticism. I'm about done trying to help you with your effort. :/
1 Rockran 2016-04-26
For a 'lot of places', you only mention this sub. Any other places?
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1 Triplechins 2016-04-26
If you don't know, now you know
1 TheGhostOfDusty 2016-04-26
Oh yeah, I remember that modmail now. I didn't see the sreen, just that it wasn't showing as having been approved. Perhaps SM was mistaken?
And you can't claim "monthly reminder" when it's twice in the same month... heh