Just watched the video September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor

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INTRODUCTION

0.01:02 - 12 parallels between Pearl Harbor and September 11

0.14:10 - The debate: main issues

PART 1 - AIR DEFENSE

0.14:55 - Where are the interceptors?

0.16:12 - The "incompetence theory" (radars, transponders)

0.22:00 - The military drills

0.29:40 - Specific warnings

0.33:08 - The chain of command

0.38:10 - Promotions, not punishments

0.39:50 - The Mineta case

0.47:38 - Debunkers: "Mineta was mistaken"

0.53:18 - The Mineta case - A summary


PART 2 - THE HIJACKERS

0.57:15 - "Piss-poor student pilots"

0.59:38 - Marwan al-Sheikki (UA175)

1.01:52 - Ziad Jarrah (UA93)

1.03:06 - Hani Hanjour (AA77)

1.04:00 - The debunkers' positions

1.06:00 - 2 simulations of the Pentagon attack

1.13:10 - Someone knew?

1.16:40 - Airport security cameras

1.20.15 - The missing black boxes


PART 3 - THE AIRPLANES

1.26:50 - Passenger planes or military drones?

1.28:20 - Impossible speeds

1.37:30 - What happened to the passengers?

1.38:35 - The cellphone calls

1.48:30 - The debunkers' position

1.50:38 - If not from the planes, from where?

QUESTION: How could the terrorists be "preparing to take control of the flight" at 9:45 when they had already been in the cockpit for more than 15 minutes?


DVD 2

PART 4 - THE PENTAGON

0.02:35 - Downed light poles

0.03:30 - The missing plane

0.04:30 - The official version

0.05:24 - Problems with the official version (wing, ailerons, tail, engines)

0.13:09 - The mystery hole

0.14:10 - The debunkers' explanations

0.16:20 - Conclusions on damage analysis

0.17:00 - The missing tapes

0.18:30 - Security video analysis

0.23.40 - Pentagon summary


PART 5 - FLIGHT 93

0.24.15 - The empty hole

0.28.00 - The debunkers' explanations

0.33:00 - Plane crash or bomb explosion?

0.34:50 - The debris field

0.37.20 - The shootdown hypothesis

0.38:50 - The small white plane

0.41:40 - "Let's roll"

0.44:25 - Summary of Flight 93


PART 6 - THE TWIN TOWERS

0.45:10 - Introduction

0.47:45 - The Towers' small dirty secret

0.53:10 - Larry Silverstein

0.56:15 - NIST vs. Architects & Engineers

0.58:00 - Robust or fragile buildings?

1.04:45 - The initial collapse - Explanation #1

1.05:45 - The initial collapse - Explanation #2

1.07:35 - Problems with the official explanation

1.18:00 - The full collapse - No official explanation

1.18:50 - Law of physics violated

1.20:50 - The Twin Towers and freefall

1.27:50 - Debunkers' response to A&E

The "Sagging Trusses" Theory: Problem - 1. No proof of insulation "widely dislodged". 2. No proof of temperatures above 250ºC (480ºF) (1:10:58)


DVD 3

(Twin Towers continued)

0.00:20 - The hypothesis of controlled demolitions

0.01:08 - Debunkers: "Impossible to place explosives"

0.07:34 - Explosions in the Twin Towers (witnesses)

0.15:00 - "Fuel in elevators shafts" theory

0.23:25 - Debunkers: "Explosions not recorded by tv cameras"

0.30:26 - Squibs

0.33:00 - Explosive force (montage)

0.35:00 - Ejecta

0.38:00 - Diagonal cuts

0.40:15 - What happened to the hat trusses?

0.42:20 - Extreme temperatures

0.45:30 - Debunkers' explanations

0.46:45 - Twisted and mangled beams

0.47:40 - Molten steel

0.51:05 - Molten concrete

0.53:50 - Pulverization

0.57:40 - Victims vaporized

1.02:20 - Conclusion on the Twin Towers

INTERESTING FACTS: 1. Major elevators renovation. 2. Heavy equipment moved on empty floors. 3. Bomb sniffing dogs removed. 4. Unprecedented power down (first time in 30 years) (4:31)

Fuel in elevator shafts theory: 1. No regular elevators from top to bottom. (Diagram 1 | Diagram 2) 2. Personnel not cremated by "fireball". 3. Volumes not considered (15:41)


PART 7 - BUILDING 7

1.05:10 - Introduction

1.06:35 - Official version by NIST

1.09:36 - Collapse computer simulation

1.11:00 - Fire computer simulation

1.12:20 - Debunkers: "Building 7 weaker"

1.14:25 - Pre-knowledge

1.19:00 - Symmetry

1.20:00 - Freefall

EPILOGUE

1.22:30 - John McCain

1.24:35 - The last word

It's great to see this all laid out this way. Did you originate it? I decidedly did not but I intend to copy paste this reddit link wherever appropriate in the future unless the originator objects.

It's great to see this all laid out this way. Did you originate it?

Nope, copy paste at will though.

What section is the ACE elevator company discussed in?

Debunkers: "Impossible to place explosives"

It is very good. Hope more people take the time to view it.

Yes, 100% agree. This was the documentary that snapped me out of my deep blue bill slumber.

I also recommend this one and this one, both of which go into the details of 'why' more than 'how.'

And then if you want your mind fully blown (again) after you thought you knew what 'really' happened that day, watch September Clues.

Also notice the link to the 911 truth forum in the r/conspiracy sidebar.

And then if you want your mind fully blown (again) after you thought you knew what 'really' happened that day, watch September Clues.

Yeah, good one, you know that documentary (September Clues) is pure disinformation "no planes" garbage.

Seems like an active campaign going on this week, equate 9/11 Truth with...

  • CGI

  • Holograms

  • No Planes

etc etc

It seems the

nukes collapsed three skyscrapers

has worn off, for now.

Not even 12 year old's believe this disinformation/fantasy.

the evidence for CGI and no commercial jets is extremely persuasive IMO. the amount of flak it gets on this sub is also notable. yours included. I wonder why it's so controversial? The claim that examination of video fakery damages the 'truth movement' is a fallacy and has no basis in reality.

Ah yes, the obligatory debunking that contains not a single argument, just a dismissive hand-wave and trying to make people feel like if they watch this or consider it, they're dumber than a 12 year old and hoodwinked by "the former top Bush economist, I forget his name."

The same tactics are used against anybody who would question the mainstream 9/11 story. "Ah, A New Pearl Harbor? You realize those people are quacks, right? Not even a 4-year old would believe that kind of garbage."

I would encourage anyone reading this and curious about it to watch the movie and examine the evidence for themselves. Then look for people who have tried to debunk the movie and see how many points about the movie they don't touch. Then you can follow-up at cluesforum.info, where they go through debunkers arguments one-by-one. Not all of the arguments made in the movie stand to close scrutiny. But many or most of them do, strongly indicating that while the destruction of the twin towers was real, the planes were not.

Honestly, when I talk about 9/11 with people, I don't even bring this up. It's enough to try to convince them there was a controlled demolition. The CGI planes is just too big a red pill to swallow at the beginning.

By the way, I never said anything about holograms or nukes, so no reason to lump me in with those arguments.

The real problem in America wrt 9/11 is that the only people who are going to spend 5 hours watching a movie about 9/11 are those who already believe it was a coverup or inside job. Other people are like, 'yeah-no, I'm not going to watch a 9/11 documentary sorry'

Agreed. I usually send people this short 5 minute video.

But on the other hand, New Pearl Harbor was the first video I watched and credit with waking me up, so it's not a total lost cause... I tell people watch the first 30 minutes, and after that they won't want to stop.

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Are you kidding. There's tons of very good evidence. Just watch the movie. As for eyewitnesses, the video does a good job of picking apart their testimony and showing that all the people interviewed as seeing planes were working for the mainstream media or connected in some way. Also some people who were interviewed did not see planes or saw something they described as a small plane, and the video suggests what type of missile it could have been to be described as a small plane. And as for radar, NORAD was running a drill that day where they were making FAKE planes appear on RADAR as part of the drill. So that's no evidence at all. And finally, neither I nor the video said anything about holograms.

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Yes I agree 100% that we should focus on the big picture. Whenever people start shouting shill and limited hangout at other 911 truthsthers are most likely shills or cointelpro themselves. That's said, there are plenty of people who apparently believe the towers were brought down by nukes or directed energy weapons. So not everyone agrees in the controlled demolition hypothesis...

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Yes but I believe they're mostly consistent with nano-thermite. Lots and lots of nano-thermite. But I'm not sure. Honestly I just don't have time to go down every rabbit hole.

I just can't imagine why (unless purposely promoting disinfo) people still push the "no planes" nonsense.

unless purposely promoting disinfo

That is it, some of these people are quite knowledgeable about 9/11 or at least the script they are reading is well written and so to come to think no planes, CGI etc are plausible theories is not something can accept from a rational thinking adult.

The flip side, i have seen is people who have post histories full of talking about playing games (xbone, ps4 etc), i equate this with them being young and impressionable, falling for nonsemse like September Clues or other youtube garbage

The flip side, i have seen is people who have post histories full of talking about playing games (xbone, ps4 etc), i equate this with them being young and impressionable, falling for nonsemse like September Clues or other youtube garbage

I have noticed this a lot lately. Couldn't agree more.

Thanks for saving me the click. The no planes stuff is peddled by the former top Bush economist, his name slips my mind.

By far the best conspiracy documentary I've ever seen. Completely objective and very thorough. Whenever anything asks me about 911 I always suggest watching it because personally I don't think you need anything more to be convinced.

Thank you for the link. What I was hoping to discover when I subbed here. I shall watch it this evening hopefully

How come nobody ever looks at who was behind organizing and funding the PNAC?

Whenever I try to open someone's mind up to the reality of it I recommend this video. It kinda sucks that it's 5 and a half hours, because people are always like "oh noo, almost 6 hours!?!?" But honestly every second of it is mind blowing and relevant. If anything, the fact that it's almost 6 hours of GOOD information just adds credence and credibility.

Amazing work. For people to still believe the towers came down because of jet fuel, there really is no help for them

OK beginners vid. It dances around the subject of who the perpetrators are like some drunk chic at Mardi Gras.

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Documentary on Israeli Connection to 9 11 [120:43]

War by Deception is a 2013 documentary made by an individual by the name of Ryan Dawson. We just had an open post about "deception" -- remember? I'm sure the enslaved minds of the sheep will have colorful names for the maker of this video or myself for posting it. Anti Semitic conspiracy nuts right? Questioning the government, especially if they're feeding us blatant lies is a big no no in the eyes of the sheep. Unfortunately, the sheep are the many. Their bleat will always sound louder than the voice of reason.

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9/11 Missing Links is most educational from a historical perspective. It clearly shows the obvious patterns of false flags used by Israel over the years to demonize Muslims and Arabs. Explains their manipulation of geo-political agendas up to and including 9/11 and how 9/11 dove tails precisely into the false flag pattern.

The vids that are still hung up on the old debates about the controlled demolition, the "hijackers" and intertwining with the official story are not moving the Truth movement forward. They are keeping the debate stagnant and preventing actual justice from ever happening. We know how the Towers fell. We've know for a very long time...it's way past time to nail down who actually did this.

This is why I say September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor's is a beginners documentary. It gives people new to this subject some knowledge and about enough info to understand the basics to engage in conversation and research for the inner workings of 9/11.