What will be done with all the extra humans?

2  2016-05-25 by ZapPowerz

This week we have seen many articles like this one on Reddit about automation. These articles are becoming more common and the idea of automation, with the result of displaced human workers, is becoming mainstream.

So my question to this forum is what do you think will be done with all the extra humans that will provide no value, through labor, to their societies? How will the elite conspire to cull the herd?

We are already seeing riots, political instability, chaos, and war in part due to high unemployment and economic trouble throughout the world.

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round up the homeless and forgotten into camps (or simply make homelessness illegal - oh wait), harvest their organs - a human body is worth roughly $0.5 million in parts

kill the majority population with cancer - not as profitable but much quieter and still a good roi

sterilize future generations

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This week we have seen many articles like this one on Reddit about automation. These articles are becoming more common and the idea of automation, with the result of displaced human workers, is becoming mainstream.

Yes, and who do you imagine benefits from spreading that lie?

So my question to this forum is what do you think will be done with all the extra humans that will provide no value, through labor, to their societies?

Automated societies are impossible. It’s a delusion. Ignore all talk of it.

Ok, I have not heard of this opinion before. Im interested, could you elaborate?

It’s not possible to have a fully automated society because it’s not possible for machines to do everything humans do, regardless of what these psychopaths want to tell you.

It’s not possible to replace even a majority of human work with machines because “post-scarcity” societies cannot exist. You need post-scarcity-style resources to be able to implement such machines in the first place. It’s a vicious circle.

Do worry about retards having their jobs taken away. Do worry about them revolting instead of putting in the effort required to educate themselves in an occupation machines can’t do. But don’t worry about losing a job that requires sapience. And don’t fight for the wrong side (the morons who want marxism, aka “basic income”) when the fighting starts.

I just upvoted you for the first time ever. lol

yes but there aren't 7 billion of those jobs for all of us

the majority will be out of jobs [say, in a 100 years], this is quite different isn't ?

If society was fully automated, who would have the money to buy the products the robots make?

Billionaires will not last long if all they do is make shit for each other using robots.

completely automated yes, probably, how about 98% automated? how many workers will be out of jobs?

or you really think robotization is not a thing?

H A A R P induced "natural dis aster".

War, famine, and pestilence; it is how they've always done it.

As with just about everything else going on around us, the lunatics orchestrating most of it haven't thought it through. Greed and the opportunity to create misery got the better of them

Lahotar says: Robotisation is the frankenstein monster that will destroy the very elite it’s meant to benefit.Elite too blind to see their own foolishness

In a perfect world, they would use to develop education and culture.

Universal basic income for starters and redestribution of some kind in the end

humans will enjoy life and work on things they like and love and not for the sake of survival.

It's like when we invented the typewriter we killed off a bunch of writers... hmm.

Or when we invented the calculator, we killed off a bunch of accountants, then did it again with the popularity of computers and spreadsheets... Oh. Wait.

It seems that there's always the next thing for people to do after their current jobs are replaced by technology. They could work in the new technology, or do something else.

How will the elite conspire to cull the herd?

Isn't the easier answer, the answer that will result in a whole hell of a lot less "shooting back", to be to slow the growth of the herd via proper education and easy access to birth control? Ooh... but there's that sticky wicket of religion, getting in the way again.

Your analogizes are wrong, it would be more like if we invented the calculator and it could do the work of an accountant. Also a type writer also doesn't type itself, you logic is flawed...

you logic is flawed

Your thought process is the thing that is flawed. Every one of those things created a significant and swift reduction in a specific area of the workforce. Every one. But most especially spreadsheets.

But none are automated like we are talking about...A robot can use the calculator automating the whole thing...

Automated or partially automated, it doesn't matter. It still reallocates labor.

Even robots are only partial automation - someone has to make, maintain, and program them.

But not the person that the robot took the job from...When you hand an account an calculator his job is easier not taken away from him.

When you hand an account an calculator

When you hand a floor full of accountants computers with spreadsheets, they rapidly become 3 accountants. What happens to the rest of the floor? Is this concept really that hard for you to grasp?

Are you saying they lay off the rest? Depends if your a dick for a boss or want to be more efficient with the same number of accountants.

Say before spreadsheets you needed 100 accountants. After spreadsheets, you need five.

What company pays 100 people to do the work of 5? Not one that wants to stay competitive, that's for sure.

Yes, accountants did lose their jobs in droves when the PC and spreadsheets became popular.

This guy doesn't understand. This worlds about money Jaydwalk, if your boss can spend money to fire his employees, he'll do it.

I appreciate this response. There is no cosmic law that says things have to turn to shit. Well, except for the law of entropy.

ITT: people who cannot grasp the concept of a fully automated society.

Sure, but it is a new concept and new concepts are hard to grasp at first. Do you think its possible? If so, what happens to all the people that no longer have something to keep them busy all day?

Human innovation. Lost arts. Homesteading. Entrepreneurship. Personal services. Cooperative business. Creative exchange.

Hell, maybe we'll finally get off our sofas & get around to some good, old-fashioned revolution.

Why is being a low-wage employee doing menial, mindless tasks somehow associated with the viability of the human race? Surely we have something better to offer.

Because it is physically impossible by definition.