What will be done with all the extra humans?
2 2016-05-25 by ZapPowerz
This week we have seen many articles like this one on Reddit about automation. These articles are becoming more common and the idea of automation, with the result of displaced human workers, is becoming mainstream.
So my question to this forum is what do you think will be done with all the extra humans that will provide no value, through labor, to their societies? How will the elite conspire to cull the herd?
We are already seeing riots, political instability, chaos, and war in part due to high unemployment and economic trouble throughout the world.
30 comments
5 flyyyyyyyyy 2016-05-25
round up the homeless and forgotten into camps (or simply make homelessness illegal - oh wait), harvest their organs - a human body is worth roughly $0.5 million in parts
kill the majority population with cancer - not as profitable but much quieter and still a good roi
sterilize future generations
3 cyclefreaksix 2016-05-25
Soylent Green...
3 HeyImCallingTheCops 2016-05-25
Yes, and who do you imagine benefits from spreading that lie?
Automated societies are impossible. It’s a delusion. Ignore all talk of it.
2 ZapPowerz 2016-05-25
Ok, I have not heard of this opinion before. Im interested, could you elaborate?
3 HeyImCallingTheCops 2016-05-25
It’s not possible to have a fully automated society because it’s not possible for machines to do everything humans do, regardless of what these psychopaths want to tell you.
It’s not possible to replace even a majority of human work with machines because “post-scarcity” societies cannot exist. You need post-scarcity-style resources to be able to implement such machines in the first place. It’s a vicious circle.
Do worry about retards having their jobs taken away. Do worry about them revolting instead of putting in the effort required to educate themselves in an occupation machines can’t do. But don’t worry about losing a job that requires sapience. And don’t fight for the wrong side (the morons who want marxism, aka “basic income”) when the fighting starts.
1 lily_levasseur 2016-05-25
I just upvoted you for the first time ever. lol
1 drwooo 2016-05-25
yes but there aren't 7 billion of those jobs for all of us
the majority will be out of jobs [say, in a 100 years], this is quite different isn't ?
1 KiwiBattlerNZ 2016-05-25
If society was fully automated, who would have the money to buy the products the robots make?
Billionaires will not last long if all they do is make shit for each other using robots.
1 drwooo 2016-05-25
completely automated yes, probably, how about 98% automated? how many workers will be out of jobs?
or you really think robotization is not a thing?
3 Pologrounds 2016-05-25
H A A R P induced "natural dis aster".
3 s70n3834r 2016-05-25
War, famine, and pestilence; it is how they've always done it.
2 poruss 2016-05-25
As with just about everything else going on around us, the lunatics orchestrating most of it haven't thought it through. Greed and the opportunity to create misery got the better of them
2 GabrielJones 2016-05-25
Lahotar says: Robotisation is the frankenstein monster that will destroy the very elite it’s meant to benefit.Elite too blind to see their own foolishness
1 spatimouth01 2016-05-25
In a perfect world, they would use to develop education and culture.
1 drwooo 2016-05-25
Universal basic income for starters and redestribution of some kind in the end
humans will enjoy life and work on things they like and love and not for the sake of survival.
-4 thc1967 2016-05-25
It's like when we invented the typewriter we killed off a bunch of writers... hmm.
Or when we invented the calculator, we killed off a bunch of accountants, then did it again with the popularity of computers and spreadsheets... Oh. Wait.
It seems that there's always the next thing for people to do after their current jobs are replaced by technology. They could work in the new technology, or do something else.
Isn't the easier answer, the answer that will result in a whole hell of a lot less "shooting back", to be to slow the growth of the herd via proper education and easy access to birth control? Ooh... but there's that sticky wicket of religion, getting in the way again.
5 jaydwalk 2016-05-25
Your analogizes are wrong, it would be more like if we invented the calculator and it could do the work of an accountant. Also a type writer also doesn't type itself, you logic is flawed...
1 thc1967 2016-05-25
Your thought process is the thing that is flawed. Every one of those things created a significant and swift reduction in a specific area of the workforce. Every one. But most especially spreadsheets.
6 jaydwalk 2016-05-25
But none are automated like we are talking about...A robot can use the calculator automating the whole thing...
-1 thc1967 2016-05-25
Automated or partially automated, it doesn't matter. It still reallocates labor.
Even robots are only partial automation - someone has to make, maintain, and program them.
3 jaydwalk 2016-05-25
But not the person that the robot took the job from...When you hand an account an calculator his job is easier not taken away from him.
1 thc1967 2016-05-25
When you hand a floor full of accountants computers with spreadsheets, they rapidly become 3 accountants. What happens to the rest of the floor? Is this concept really that hard for you to grasp?
2 jaydwalk 2016-05-25
Are you saying they lay off the rest? Depends if your a dick for a boss or want to be more efficient with the same number of accountants.
2 thc1967 2016-05-25
Say before spreadsheets you needed 100 accountants. After spreadsheets, you need five.
What company pays 100 people to do the work of 5? Not one that wants to stay competitive, that's for sure.
Yes, accountants did lose their jobs in droves when the PC and spreadsheets became popular.
2 lbrodieee 2016-05-25
This guy doesn't understand. This worlds about money Jaydwalk, if your boss can spend money to fire his employees, he'll do it.
2 ZapPowerz 2016-05-25
I appreciate this response. There is no cosmic law that says things have to turn to shit. Well, except for the law of entropy.
-4 DocHopper-- 2016-05-25
ITT: people who cannot grasp the concept of a fully automated society.
2 ZapPowerz 2016-05-25
Sure, but it is a new concept and new concepts are hard to grasp at first. Do you think its possible? If so, what happens to all the people that no longer have something to keep them busy all day?
5 lily_levasseur 2016-05-25
Human innovation. Lost arts. Homesteading. Entrepreneurship. Personal services. Cooperative business. Creative exchange.
Hell, maybe we'll finally get off our sofas & get around to some good, old-fashioned revolution.
Why is being a low-wage employee doing menial, mindless tasks somehow associated with the viability of the human race? Surely we have something better to offer.
1 HeyImCallingTheCops 2016-05-25
Because it is physically impossible by definition.