The World is Evil

0  2016-05-30 by TheUniverseIsALie

The world is inherently evil (it is materialistic and run by evil psychopaths). If it is so, then maybe the meaning to existence is to kill yourself to leave this existence? What do you think?

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No, it's a call to action to bring out the best in humanity as a reflection of the almighty, which is this world around you.

The world of humans is evil, but nature is not. Look around you at this beautiful place and the heavens above. We forget that it's not there to serve us, we're here to serve it, to understand our place within it... and if we lose that challenge, then we truly do fucking suck and don't deserve to go beyond. We were born into Eden and it was our choice to make ugly grass lawns and houses and chainlink fences and cities and other abominations upon the garden.

Humans make lines and corners, nature makes curves and spirals. We're cornering ourselves in and don't realize it.

The world of humans is evil, but nature is not. Look around you at this beautiful place and the heavens above.

Look at how cruel nature is. Nature and this material world is based on competition, greed and selfishness....or how else would you survive?

Maybe you should study natural law.

natural law

what is that

The law of the unervise to which it cannot be changed or destroyed. The ultimate truth.

There are videos and work you can lookup regarding this. The world is every changing and impermanent. Try to be a good person everyday and detach yourself from the brainwashing of the material world.

Try to be a good person everyday and detach yourself from the brainwashing of the material world.

HOW

When psychopaths run this world? Isn't it better just to kill yourself?

The old lady across the street isn't running the world. You're talking about a very few people. You're very much imbalanced in a negative mindset right now. If you open yourself up to human interaction (not this technology bullshit) you will see how intertwined we truly are. The world won't seem so perilous.

What does an old lady have to do with anything?

You're talking about a very few people.

And? Does that mean they don't exist?

If you open yourself up to human interaction (not this technology bullshit) you will see how intertwined we truly are.

Who says I don't? Everyone only cares about themselves. They can lie and put on a face but at the end of the day...the way this material realm is designed is that they would rather you less off if it serves them an advantage. Look at nature. Look at the animal world and the pyramid of predators and prey. The world is greed, evil, selfish.

I'm sorry but you have much to learn. Not everyone is for themselves. If that's all you experienced then maybe that's what you're projecting yourself or hoping for "payoffs" in doing kind deeds.

As I said, you are in a very negative mindset right now. Knowledge is constant. You are falling for the belief that there is no good and it's best just to kill yourself. That is a horrible outlook on life. But if so, don't knock those who perceive it differently or give advice. You just need to grow more as an individual spiritually and intellectually.

I'm sorry but you have much to learn. Not everyone is for themselves.

Really? Who is for you? Do you think if someone had the choice of saving their life or yours...they would saves yours? The majority of people...more than 99.9999% would save their own life. EVERYONE IS FOR THEMSELVES AT THE END OF THE DAY.

Do you think the Lion who sees the Gazelle would stop and think...oh poor little gazelle, have a nice hug? NO. It would fucking massacre it and eat it.

Do you feel sorry for the chicken that was slaughtered when you eat your chicken sandwich?

Explain logically how the statement that the world is evil is false. You keep on repeating the same thing over and over without logically dissecting my argument. It's an evil wicked world full of people who create delusions to make themselves feel better.

Guess how much Christians killed throughout history? What do you think about the Native American Genocide done by Christians? (with their ten commandments and goodness towards each other and nature and mankind etc.)

And you fucking lost me at chicken sandwich. Hahaha fuck me. Have fun with blowing your brains out.

Would have liked it if you could have logically debated me.

The world is evil because our children are being programmed to be evil. All things develop according to the Decorator/Phi. Like a seed perpetually wrapped in layers as we move through life. When we allow those early layers to be damaged, those damaged seeds perpetuate their bad programs, and the cycle continues. To end the cycle we have to care for our kids. It's that simple.

Neural net is the mechanism by which we learn. It's the most basic form of intelligence. It's basically pattern recognition. There are other more advanced forms of intelligence/cognition that people can learn to use. But generally speaking most people stay on the neural net level. Most of the neural net development happens early on in the first few years. So when we allow kids to be harmed via this network of pedos that seem to be around the planet, we are seeding evil. Their neural nets are programmed with their abuse. And since most people don't have the ability to reprogram themselves, and the controllers of our society encourage badly designed thought patterns, it just continues.

If we want to fix the world we must start by protecting kids from abuse.

Decorator/Phi

what is that

And this is why we need to reclaim our natural instincts and mind tools. They know they work. And the dark , psychopathic side is using them. You do words nicely. Me not so much.

The world isn't inherently anything. We apply all sorts of filters and bias to it to make it what we think it is. Modern society has a lot of shitty aspects and most at the top are shitty, but that's still a layer I've added to it on my own, and so would be any meaning you or I might prescribe.

So what do you think about all the psychopathic leaders of the corporations that own the corrupt politicians that make almost all the decisions on everyone's life?

Is the world still not evil?

Nothing is inherent. The world is evil if you think it is.

If you don't think greedy psychopaths run this world then I'm sorry for you.

You're missing my point. "Evil" or "good" are concepts that are not innate to anything. For something to be evil, there has to be someone observing the thing and then deciding that thing is evil. The world is not inherently evil, and any response to it(ex. killing oneself) is not inherently correct.

I personally believe that some things are fucked up and some things aren't. I also realize that things being fucked up or not is my own interpretation of things, not something inherent to reality.

Selfishness and greed is innate to the material realm. If that is not 'evil' then what is

Selfishness and greed is innate to the material realm.

I don't agree with that at all. Good luck out there buddy.

why you don't agree

I've already explained my position.

It doesn't make sense.

Waffling now to try to dig yourself out of the hole you publicly dug for yourself

Care to point out how I have waffled?

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You haven't experienced much -- or you have no clue

It's evil

Very possibly it was designed as a level of hell from the outset

with the decent folk coming here as missionaries, or maybe as captives

And maybe that's what Jesus was trying to say -- he was trying to alert the prisoners & captives here that God (the true one) is there and willing to accept us -- all we have to do is reach out to Him, grab his hand

What persuades me that there IS escape is the fact that no matter how bad a person's gene pool and childhood and environment may have been, they are still acutely aware of justice and injustice

That knowledge, that inherent capacity to know justice and injustice tells me that it's inborn. And if it's inborn, it's because the cosmos recognizes justice and injustice

No matter how harshly a person is treated, even if he's been tortured to death --- the recognition of justice and injustice cannot be driven out of him

Yet justice and injustice have been turned on their heads in this world and that has always been the case

Of course, those who've gained what little they know from FB and tv wouldn't be aware of just how disgusting this world has always been, how unfair, how unjust, how corrupt

Live a bit. Experience it. Deal with entrenched corruption and injustice first hand. Because your claim that the 'world is evil if you think it is' is nonsense

Most people begin by believing IMPLICITLY that the world is fair, is just. They put their faith in corporations, in doctors, teachers, government departments, governments themselves, preachers, etc. Then they suffer psychic shock when they begin to see the truth. After that, nothing's ever the same. And if they're very unfortunate (such as children who're raped, killed, tortured) they are forced to the realization that yes, the world is evil, it is putrid, rank, filthy

But I guess you've never been a raped, tortured, murdered infant?

Or, maybe you'll insist that raped, tortured, murdered children only THINK the world is evil, huh?

LOL

You didn't have time to READ it before downvoting

Your opinions are thus rendered invalid

If justice/injustice is inherent to all of humanity, then what are psychopaths and sociopaths, who do not feel those same impulses?

Does justice exist for a dog or a spider? Can good exist in a vacuum? They are judgment calls we make in our minds, not things that exist external from us.

There are many problems in the world. Probably more problems than good. But that is not inherent to the world.

hat inherent capacity to know justice and injustice tells me that it's inborn

Ask a psychopath like Charles Manson, those big name politicians etc. about those things. Let me hear what he'll say.

This world is controlled by Satan until God comes back, they are doing what they are supposed to be doing, ask yourself are you doing what you were created to do?

2 Corinthians 4:4King James Version (KJV)

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

ask yourself are you doing what you were created to do?

How to find this out

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not

What do you think it means?

I have no clue...especially as there's no context.

Please explain.

In other words, God gave the world to Satan to weed out everyone who was and is controlled by sin. Instead of doing the right thing, a lot of us have been taught to do the wrong thing.

lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Meaning unless we find God, we will not find salvation. Not only spiritually but physically in this world as well. We are much more controlled by sin without religion (atheism). Whereas if you have GOOD religion, even if it's not the religion I follow, you are less inclined to be negative to the world, thus doing your part to fix the world.

It's because people don't care anymore that the world is in it's current condition. People watching others be oppressed and then joining/spreading the same rhetoric as the groups enslaving them instead of protesting the real criminals.

Stand up for what is right and you will be doing your part. Be aware that the Satan is real and people actually follow him and believe he exists. Therefore, it's in the best interests of everyone to find his Anti.

In other words, if Satan likes death, we should like life. If Satan says hey, let's oppress people, we should be saying "let's not oppress people".

Just gotta find their Anti and do it to the maximum yo, the Bible helps with that.

Why does a good God allow evil in the world?

He didn't but he knew that because he showed favor in Jacob, Esau would take the world over by the sword (Military industrial complex).

40 And by thy sword shalt thou live, and shalt serve thy brother; and it shall come to pass when thou shalt have the dominion, that thou shalt break his yoke from off thy neck.

41 And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.

you didn't answer my question

The demiurge created physical reality as an imperfect being, and the result is what we call "evil". The fact humans call the schism between the perversity of duality and the perfection of the one, "evil" is (in my opinion) elegant proof of the innate goodness of humanity. All things occur with the will of the great creator however, and so in time we will see a good result. A person killing themselves is defying the will of the great spirit, and perhaps even hindering its plan if that's possible.

"evil" is (in my opinion) elegant proof of the innate goodness of humanity

what the hell does that even mean?

The world has much evil in it, but it isn't inherently so.

The world has evil - yes - but it isn't inherently so.

inherently

then you're arguing that evil is not permanent or inseparable to the world?

On one level, what you interpret as "evil" can be seen as endemic and constant. On another level, if you have the capacity to understand and interpret what's going on in a manner that has more depth, then you come to understand that what is both evil and good are both illusions - very persistent illusions, to be sure, but illusions nonetheless.

Without understanding this truth, however, the superficial interpretation of existence will be taken as the only interpretation, and great confusion will as a result be had.

if you have the capacity to understand and interpret what's going on in a manner that has more depth, then you come to understand that what is both evil and good are both illusions - very persistent illusions, to be sure, but illusions nonetheless.

How can I do this?

You must first understand that you are not the physical vehicle you see when you look in the mirror - that thing known as “the body”. You are not that. You inhabit that and wear it like the body wears, say, a shirt or a pair of pants.

That shirt and those pants can come and go - they tear and get destroyed - but the person wearing those pants doesn’t associate themselves as the actual pair of pants they wear. They just get another pair of pants once the old ones wear out. You do this, again, because you know you are not what you wear. You draw a difference between you and the clothes you put on.

We have been tricked and have become convinced that that other article of clothing we wear - the one called “the body” - is actually the real us. It is not. The body is simply a more long term pair of socks that the real you wears. The body will ultimately and eventually go the same way as any pair of socks: It will dissolve, it will break down, it will discombobulate. It is temporary.

There is intelligent energy, however, that animates the body, and that intelligent energy is not limited to the same things the physical body is limited by. It’s not beholden to life on this physical plane (or planet) only. It may have stints that it must undergo here, but it will not remain here forever.

The sooner one realizes this, wakes up to this fact, and begins to act in a manner commensurate with the eternal identity which they in fact are (i.e. realize that they live in a civilization that is yin and yang, both positive and negative, and they must work diligently to rise above both states), the sooner that eternal identity can continue to develop and evolve more and more, and the sooner it will grow out of its time here on this plane of Earth.

It may take many lifetimes, but we are all evolving, and we are not destined to remain here forever.

Understanding this dynamic can help.

(i.e. realize that they live in a civilization that is yin and yang, both positive and negative, and they must work diligently to rise above both states),

how

Intelligence, critical thinking, and analyzing the world around you as well as your own individual life and the things that occur in it.

How can I rise above duality? Give me an example.

Awareness that there is a very real aspect of the self that is not directly effected by the trials and tribulations of physical existence is one thing that can help one rise above duality.

For example, I know this physical body will die. The expiration of the physical vehicle is something that consternates many individuals and causes great anxiety in most. A greater understanding of the fact that you are not the body, however, will help you NOT be overly consternated over its eventual, inevitable dissolving.

Obviously this is only one example. There are many others, but this one is generally a more foundational one, so that's why I chose it.

Awareness that there is a very real aspect of the self that is not directly effected by the trials and tribulations of physical existence is one thing that can help one rise above duality.

How can I become aware of this? How is this proven?

Become aware of the truth through study, personal exertion, and the personal experience that comes with it.

Read the works of individuals like Dr. Ian Stevenson (“Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation”), Dr. Elizabeth Kubler Ross, Dr. Raymond Moody, and Dr. Eben Alexander, to name just four academics and professionals who’ve made significant discoveries that have not been disproven by the establishment and which strongly indicate (if not outright prove) that there is an intelligence that exists far beyond the physical realm and that is not beholden to the physical exclusively if at all.

Meditate - not very easy to do if your mind is restless, but if and when you get a handle on it, there is the possibility that you can achieve states of awareness that would otherwise be very difficult to arrive at otherwise.

Just two of various broad steps in the direction of better understanding.

Tell that to /r/collapse, who are collectively so fucking stupid that all of them believe there is nothing we can do to stop the AGW lie.

First, people need to quit putting more kids on the planet -- quit obediently creating more consumers, more cannon fodder. That would have an immediate effect and would be more effective than anything else (apart from concentrated boycotts) in solving their own problems

Then, child-free, people would be able to combat the world's ills without worrying about having to provide and protect their young. Because (as the world-destroyers are WELL aware) nothing neuters people like parenthood. Nothing silences people more effectively than parenthood. Batman, Superman, Catwoman would have divested of their capes and crime fighting the moment kids came along. People won't risk offending the 'masters' if they have kids counting on them. Children are the great censors, silencers. Kids keep parents in line and stop them from taking up the fight. People can't afford to be killed or imprisoned if they have a couple of kids who'll end up helpless, homeless and destined for the sex-slave industry

But for some reason, people are so indoctrinated by society, let alone subject to the biological imperative, that the solution evades them

For some reason, almost all people believe they should produce more of themselves. They don't know (because no one tells them) that Nature demands everything create its replacements before it dies. It's the same with cockroaches, rats, dogs, cats, lions, weeds, everything. They devote a huge part of their own existence to creating their replacements

You'd think people would have worked it out by now that children are effectively shackles, hobbles, handicaps

Nothing against kids, but who in their right mind would bring forth children at this point? Why would anyone do it? What sort of life do they imagine their kids will have, given the way things are going? Yet they do. Mostly by accident. Nature knows how to get those replacements on the planet and that's all Nature cares about

So, for those who're too stupid or lazy to use birth control, maybe exiting the planet prior to putting some poor kid on the ground might be the best idea

For those who've managed to remain childless, why not do as much damage as possible to those who've made life so unpleasant, before leaving? At least that way, life will have counted for something

A child is the ultimate and most natural expression of love.

What the world needs now is more expressions of live rather than more fighting.

A child is the ultimate and most natural expression of love.

Not when they're not created out of love; not when they're the result of indecency (which is the case with most births, it seems), or, for example, rape.

A child coming out of rape is nooooot "the ultimate and most natural expression of love".

At all.

Obviously.

OP said for people to stop having kids to combat the elite though. I think finding your twin flame and having a kid with them is the ultimate fuck you to their fear mongering.

I think finding your twin flame and having a kid with them is the ultimate fuck you to their fear mongering.

Not when the elite fuck the lives of you, your twin flame, and the progeny of that fire all at the same time. We live in a civilization that is corrupt from so many different angles and influences. Your child will be put in "educational" institutions that will sap its creativity and turn it into raging flame of ignorance and callousness.

The MSM will constantly bombard them with everything they shouldn't be - things they won't know well enough to avoid (likely because their own parents won't know well enough to avoid it) and they'll end up corrupted by the influence of that matrix.

The air they breathe, the food they eat, the shows and movies they watch, the things they hear - all will be subtly and overtly toxic; most if not all will be pushing toward a confusion designed to sap more and more of all of your creative geniuses.

None of this is to tell anyone who is in love and is existing under "twin flame" circumstances to not breed. However, putting progeny into a world as dark and corrupt as this one is something that should be given a lot of significant consideration, for it is a very difficult world that these children are being brought into.

These guys are going down.

What will take them down is more light. A baby has a profound effect on a lot of people. When they are brought up by actualised people, there's no telling what kind of consciousness one may bring in and bind to this reality.

Not to put too much expectation but that's a simple fact when considering our infinite creative capacities. Those babies will bend reality around them to exist in spheres of positivity engaging with other spheres and effectively shielding themselves and their familes.

These guys are going down.

I certainly hope so, my good man, but 1) they’ve been around for a very, very long time, and 2) they kind of seem to be about as strong and powerful as ever at this point actually.

What will take them down is more light.

Agreed and correct.

A baby has a profound effect on a lot of people.

But the responsibility needed in order to help that baby reach it’s full potential is possibly even greater than the profound effect it has on many - and it’s a responsibility many parents unfortunately either can’t or aren’t willing to achieve.

When they are brought up by actualized people, there's no telling what kind of consciousness one may bring in and bind to this reality.

I cannot agree with you more on this. However, far too many babies are being brought up by people who are far, far from being anywhere near to actualized.

All I’m saying is that those who aren’t actualized should perhaps wait before they bring in more identities to this world that will likely be adversely affected by being brought up and influenced by that un-actualized rearing.

Not to put too much expectation but that's a simple fact when considering our infinite creative capacities.

Oh I am in full agreement with this, sir. It’s just that with great power comes great responsibility, and far too many of us are far from realizing anywhere near our full power…and until we do realize it, or at least come close to realizing it, we should perhaps stay a bit away from trying to lead others. I don’t advocate the blind leading the blind.

Those babies will bend reality around them to exist in spheres of positivity engaging with other spheres and effectively shielding themselves and their familes.

Absolutely…IF they don’t get that light fucked out of them before they grow up. IF they don’t get raised in circumstances that don’t turn them into dark masses of ignorance and violence first. IF they don’t end up creating even more negativity than would have otherwise been the case because they couldn’t handle how difficult things are in this very difficult civilization.

Yes. I agree with you.

If

EDIT: Heck. Just read some of the stories here. A good portion of them are stupid - first world problems or troll posts not really designed to express how things really are. However, there are a few that will really make you go O_o, and help one understand just how difficult life on this planet can be and is for many.

EDIT 2: Jesus fucking Christ, bro. I haven't even finished reading this...but read this shit right here. You think this kid is considered the "angelic, full of potential" being that you described? Fuck me, man. Those parents, for example, SHOULD NOT have fucking been parents. AT ALL.

Fucking straight up case in point. Sorry to keep dropping F bombs, but Jesus...

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So what do you think about all the psychopathic leaders of the corporations that own the corrupt politicians that make almost all the decisions on everyone's life?

Is the world still not evil?

You're missing my point. "Evil" or "good" are concepts that are not innate to anything. For something to be evil, there has to be someone observing the thing and then deciding that thing is evil. The world is not inherently evil, and any response to it(ex. killing oneself) is not inherently correct.

I personally believe that some things are fucked up and some things aren't. I also realize that things being fucked up or not is my own interpretation of things, not something inherent to reality.

Obviously.

OP said for people to stop having kids to combat the elite though. I think finding your twin flame and having a kid with them is the ultimate fuck you to their fear mongering.

(i.e. realize that they live in a civilization that is yin and yang, both positive and negative, and they must work diligently to rise above both states),

how

Become aware of the truth through study, personal exertion, and the personal experience that comes with it.

Read the works of individuals like Dr. Ian Stevenson (“Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation”), Dr. Elizabeth Kubler Ross, Dr. Raymond Moody, and Dr. Eben Alexander, to name just four academics and professionals who’ve made significant discoveries that have not been disproven by the establishment and which strongly indicate (if not outright prove) that there is an intelligence that exists far beyond the physical realm and that is not beholden to the physical exclusively if at all.

Meditate - not very easy to do if your mind is restless, but if and when you get a handle on it, there is the possibility that you can achieve states of awareness that would otherwise be very difficult to arrive at otherwise.

Just two of various broad steps in the direction of better understanding.