Admins deny obvious censorship from /news, and then change the way Reddit works to keep /the_donald from being able to hit the front page as often... they will silence the_donald (they will fail)

61  2016-06-13 by Flytape

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4nyf2v/admins_using_the_orlando_massacre_to_change_the/

This is truly absurd. /r/news makes international headlines for being censors and the admins back them up and punish /r/the_donald for filling the vacuum and fulfilling the demand for real uncensored information about the attack in Orlando.


EDIT

Also I hope the users of conspiracy will understand that we will no longer be able to use stickies for posts made by non-mods or even our AMA guests. We will have to find another way. You can thank the admins for this horrible change.

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The donald is nothing more than vote manipulation. They have no problem banning people either. Fuck em all.

Their purpose was never to be a place not censored though. It was meant to be a uninterrupted circle jerk of Donald Trump.

Yep. I was banned for calling Trump a moron and a con-man. I understand and accept the ban, and they have a right to censor their little sub, but that kind of bias is transparent and admitted. They don't owe anyone an apology.

Reddit's News sub is not supposed to be tainted by bias... but it is... ALL of Reddit is. The fact that they deny this is criminal.

Exactly.

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oh my fucking god are you serious? are you implying donald trump is a victim? fuck you. he doesnt care about you.

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Remove yourself from the gene pool.

He was clear about understanding and accepting the ban? Obvious troll is obvious.

"wow such valuable conversation you were bringing to their subreddit. i'm amazed they didn't want to keep you with such in-depth analysis and unbiased opinion like that."

Yeah, which is why I don't blame them for banning me. My comment did have other analysis and my reasoning behind calling him a con-man and moron. My point was that they do in fact censor. I was corroborating a claim with my experience.

"do you propose a better presidential option..."

I did at the time. That was during the primaries. It was months ago. I'm banned for life from that one comment. Am I supporting the Establishment GOP? Fuck no. Those pussies can go to hell. I wanted to vote for someone who made a career of fighting the establishment.

Am I voting for Trump now? Probably. I don't see anyone else coming along. I just think Trump will be a dumber version of George Bush and he'll be talked into doing stupid shit by Democrats and the Establishment GOP. He'll betray us.

I hope I'm wrong, of course.

Well, /r/sandersforpresident and whatever hillary's sub is are just uninterrupted circlejerks as well. I know this is obvious to most, but I thought it was worth pointing out.

at least their titles aren't clearly antagonizing people and their users don't flood other subs spamming "cuck" over and over.

That's true.

How is the title antagonizing?

You know what he meant

I assure you that I don't...

It is a Trump fan club.

Its an America fan club, actually.

lol

I was shadowbanned from the_donald because I explained how the drivers license and a car analogy isn't equal to the second amendment.

"The car analogy doesn't work. You do not need a drivers license to own, purchase or drive a car on private property. You only need it for driving on government maintained, publicly funded roads. You also do not have a constitutional right to convenient transportation. You do have a right to own a firearm. And that right, shall not be infringed. It was written clearly, by framers who spent the previous decade fighting a war against a tyrannical government who did everything possible to disarm its rebellious citizenry. Creating financial and bureaucratic hurdles is infringement. No different than requiring a permit and a test before you can post on the internet."

No different than requiring a permit and a test before you can post on the internet."

That is what is going down. You'll be seeing extreme heavy-handedness, a mass increase in censorship - led by the PRIVATE SECTOR in the near future. Indeed, the changes noted above are likely part of this "anti-Hate speech" agenda that was introduced by Google, Microsoft, Twitter, Facebook and others, and will spread like a virus across the web.

Speak while you can.

See Peter Thiel

The main difference is that a car and a gun can kill me if used irresponsibly. A computer network cannot.

You would be wrong in that assumption.

No, I'm not.

Any communication device can be used to do harm. We're obviously not going to stop people from communicating with one another.

Cars and guns are tools. These tools can be dangerous. As such, we don't allow just anyone to use them.

Convicted murderers can't have guns (but wait, that's not in the constitution!), and drunk drivers (not nearly enough) can't drive.

Networks spread ideas, and ideas can kill. Charles Manson didn't need a gun or a car, just other people's minds.

You're an idiot. This is why Americans keep dying, because you refuse to see the similarity in licensing dangerous tools.

You're right, the Internet is the same thing as a gun. Thankfully we don't think that way in my country, so I don't have to worry about being shot, or cower in fear with my gun in my hand so the "bad guys" and "terrorists" can't come get me.

'murica.

You turned it into an ad hominem fight

Oh I never said any of that. Thank you for making assumptions. I am pro-gun control, but from a theoretical stand-point, human beings are themselves are the most dangerous weapon around. That's how ISIS can inspire people across the world to commit violent actions from their twitter account.

Human beings can certainly be a dangerous weapon, but I would much rather face off against a man than a man with a knife, and I would much rather face off against a man with a knife than a man with a gun.

If I have to face off with a man, I want to be the one with a gun.

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Shootings wouldn't happen as often if guns weren't as available.
Texas has enough problems, I remember Waco, do you?
They happen in gun free zones because no one will fight back, duh.
You don't. Just don't sell more and ban ammunition.
I guess you get a knife cowboy.
Mass stabbing a are a lot harder to pull off than a mass shooting. Otherwise the cops would carry knives.
China isn't the US. We don't kill our own citizens with tanks.
No, that's silly.
All ideology is like religion. Gun fervor is no different.
I am not afraid, but I do know how to review evidence and arrive at a conclusion. More guns = more shootings. It's a fact.

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Stabbings wouldn't go through the roof because stabbing someone is a lot harder than shooting them.
Texas is also the largest state, with plenty of open and rural spaces. Chicago and Austin are very different cities man.
You can't 3d print metal.
Stabbing are harder because guns are better at killing. Thats why mass shootings are more common than mass stabbings.
You knives to cook dinner. What purpose does a gun serve other than killing people? Quit trying to make an equivalence between knives and guns. There's a reason mass shooters use an AR and not a machete.
There's plenty of evidence to support that claim. The US has the most shootings and the most guns. Basic math.

Tell it to those "terrorists" droned to death because of "harmless metadata".

Cry about it some more I guess.

You weren't shadow banned. The comment still stands. And considering the following comment was upvoted for promoting gun control, I would say that it wasn't anyone from r/The_Donald that down voted you but the brigaders who breached the sub.

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Humans have shorter attention span than goldfish, thanks to smartphones

TL;DR

Those of us who have been here a long time (not my first account) know that they have done this many times before already. We're just used to it by now. The default subs have been heavily manipulated for many years. It's not that it's OK, it's just that this is nothing new. It's already been that way.

Those of us who have been here a long time (not my first account) know that they have done this many times before already. We're just used to it by now. The default subs have been heavily manipulated for many years. It's not that it's OK, it's just that this is nothing new. It's already been that way.

Those of us who have been here a long time (not my first account) know that they have done this many times before already. We're just used to it by now. The default subs have been heavily manipulated for many years. It's not that it's OK, it's just that this is nothing new. It's already been that way.

Other subs fell way before /r/The_Donald

I got banned from The Donald subreddit.

Just message the more and tell them to unban you

For what?

I've posted there about 9/11, how Saudi looks like it's being made a scapegoat, the Petrodollar, climate change fraud, the Rockefellers.

Because I was saying how Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump are best for this country and how we need to do anything to prevent the establishment candidates like Hillary and Bush, Cruz, and Rubio from winning. And how Bernie/Trump debates and race would be best for the country.

They didn't like the larger perspective on the race and wanted complete and sole loyalty to the centipede (Trump)

I did too but I'm proud. I made a comment that sort of made fun of the sub but somehow it got upvoted like crazy. I guess no one could tell I was being sarcastic except for a mod.

Didn't they have a segment where this programmer for the electoral vote said that there's a way to rig an election that'll be unnoticed by anyone but the person who implemented the program . Had an uncle who ran for mayor in a small city in Mexico and he had the majority vote up until the lights "magically" went out and the vote changed from 23% v 56% to a 49% v 40% . It was primary party (PRI) vs third party (Verde). Source for programmer: http://youtu.be/1thcO_olHas

Exactly... I mean like 30% of /r/all is /r/the_donald nowadays. I live in Europe, and honestly, I do NOT care about that hateful circlejerk at all... Obviously they can discuss whatever they want in their own little group, but please, please, stop spamming the whole Reddit with their crazy agenda.

Imagine if every politician from every country would do the same vote manipulation thingy; Reddit would not be anything else just political circlejerk (yes, there are a lot of countries on Reddit, from every continent). I am much more interested about technology, music, movies, jokes, games, whatever. Just not about them... ☺

It is nothing but pure narcissistic tendancies - take other people's tradegy and make it all about you. Idiot's are going to meme themselves into a real shitshow.

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Lmao why are you getting down voted?

This is the best thing ever. Reddit is imploding under its own paradoxical manipulation. A foreshadowing of what's to come in the USA.

As below, so below.

DIGG 2.0!!!!

DIE REDDIT DIE!

(To any FBI, NSA, CIA, or other alphabet agency reading this, "Die Reddit Die" is German for, "The Reddit, The" and is not to be construed as a threat, motive, or call to action.)

No one who speaks German could be an evil man

I get the reference but it would make more sense to render it as "They, Reddit, They" or "She, Reddit, She". Well, that's what I think whenever I see it, even though I get the absurdity of saying "the" randomly makes it funnier, along with how much the average American associates German with Nazism.

You pedantic fuck.

Technically, this is Digg Rev 6.

Source: I am one of the few remaining Digg Rev 4 refugees.

I can't believe that after the censorship on /r/news the admins decided that preventing /r/the_donald from reaching /r/all was the appropriate solution.

It's like some horrible Orwellian doublespeak.

Are you kidding me? /rthe_donald is #occupyall right now. I have no problem with it dominating...if they are truthful. The post titles are waaaaaay out of line on some of the posts. What do you think the purpose of that is? Who the hell is instigating all those people and for what purpose?

Bernie Sanders was on the first page for months and the Admins didn't have a problem with it.

(thats because they knew he wasn't really a threat... since its rigged)

They rig voting just like the GOPe.

While I agree with you, it doesn't disprove my comment :)

True, but the_Donald was almost all of the front page last night.

Streisand effect

I don't much care for trump, but where were these rules when sanders was front page every day? Seems unfair to me.

Why the fuck is this stickied?

This is the final nail in the coffin of this subs dignity.

I like this sub a lot, but it has no dignity. Its a dumping ground for every last kind of shill and troll to ever exist. To talk about this sub's dignity makes one immediately suspect.

Bahahahahaha the irony of Trump idiots complaining about censorship.

You nancies fucking deserve it for being a bunch of hypocrites.

Can you explain to me how they are hypocrites?

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Easy there cowboy

They will silence the-donald (they will fail).

Which is it! Learn English.

It's a meme.

You understand (you don't)

Honestly I don't know what to think anymore. I think this was their goal all along. Once people move past Reddit then where will they go? Reddit is imploding but it's sad to think of what it could have been. Reddit used to be ANTI-SOPA / ANTI NSA but now everything is fucked. They are dividing in order Reddit to concur and silence.

Makes me wonder how things would have played out if Alex wouldn't have died...

Someone will start another site that catches momentum and be a bastion of hope... and then it'll get bigger and have enough traffic to come under the eye of corporations and the gov, and money offers will be made that can't be refused. It'll go public and there will be hot potato chairmen of the board swaps until the original guys are out and the new vision is complete. If it doesn't go public, then people get suicided or fired and lies are manufactured until the control moves into the "proper" hands.

Rinse and repeat.

Nail on the head.

Make sure you guys let me know when whatever is after reddit starts gaining traction. I hate being late. I wish I didn't hate Voat.

Its happened so much I dont even blink anymore when the yearly mod shuffle happens.

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Are you for the censorship of the Right? Do you favor their censorship? Pretty sure censorship is the norm for all of them, so why call out only half?

Because dinosuars don't know they're dying until the tar is well over their heads.

they will silence the_donald (they will fail)

My fucking god. The absolutely delusion. Your shitty idiot's club is as bad as /r/sandersforpresident.

The censorship issue on reddit is horrible in its own right. Stop trying to shoehorn your own agenda into it and make it a primarily anti-Trump thing.

They literally changed the rules just to stop /r/the_Donald who is against globalist.

That's some shady shit, smh.

Unpin this Trump propaganda please.

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Shame on you for expecting reddit to have any shred of integrity. This is an advertisement platform, and you want them to treat you with respect?

You Just Lost The Game, son.

Don't like people who speak out against globalist?

This is parallel to how a Hillary presidency would play out

Hillary Clinton said she wants a Manhattan like project to defeat ISIS online. This is code for a Manhattan like project to monitor and censor the internet.

This is code for a Manhattan like project to monitor and censor the internet.

^ The foregoing is a valid interpretation ^

But the scheme is so brilliant that it will need no government intervention.

Corporatism, under whatever name, is about to "come out" as a governmental body - controlling access to information, opinion and thought, not by law, but by policy.

delete things that go against the narrative.

memory hole.

Pure 1984

Well go on ....... BLOW THE WHISTLE WHOOOT WHOOO

Also I hope the users of conspiracy will understand that we will no longer be able to use stickies for posts made by non-mods or even our AMA guests. We will have to find another way. You can thank the admins for this horrible change.

Spez is a complete unadulteraed sellout. Redditors don't matter as much as management decided [profiteering] concerns will dominate from here on out.

It is only a matter of time before reddit rests in the same boneyard as AOL, Yahoo, Myspace and all the other websites that sold their users down the river for quick money in the bank account.

And just like AOL, Yahoo, Myspace - a new better thing will come along and reddit will be the laughing stock of the internet past.

Huffman needs to get his money now and get out fast. I give reddit about 2 years before the ship really sinks.

Good for Huffman. Bad for reddit. But everything really is all about the money isn't it? Integrity, truth and morals don't pay the fucking penthouse rent.

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What's this? His original post about thread stickies is gone and this is what remains? He's a lying snake-in-the-grass.

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we will no longer be able to use stickies for posts made by non-mods or even our AMA guests. We will have to find another way. You can thank the admins for this horrible change.

Not good. Without a sticky feature ama's here will likely be buried more often than not. :(

Edit: Suggestion: For the time being, you could use the second 'Announcement' slot and just submit a direct link to the AMA.

From this it looks like they changed that caveat, if I'm reading it right.

Ah good, you indeed read it right.

Thanks for the find.

Fuck r/Thedonald.

What nobody talks about is most of the "censored" posts were just racist bigots being racist and bigoted.

Wrong. Use uneddit and look at the content of the deleted comments. There was valuable, life saving information in there, and the info was published EARLY. They deleted it once it was known he was of Muslim faith, and while I can understand why (hatred solves nothing), censoring has the opposite effect.

this is how the NWO is going to take over. They're going to have puppet women and minorities in positions of "power". If you call them out, they will label you as a "bigot" or "racist".

Oh please. As if that dickhead Donald doesn't have the illuminati dick all the way down his throat and ass.

We are all on our way out

Fuck the donald

fuck the Donald!

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

/u/flytape - they reversed the change so as to enable AMA's to continue, just wanted to let you know in case u wanted to edit this post.

/r/the_donald seems like such a /r/circlejerk or 4chan thing. There is no constructive discussion in that subreddit at all, and they are totally flooding /r/all. I think there is another weirder agenda to that subreddit.

They are often touching on subjects that are important, but no other subreddits can gain the momentum to talk about those subjects/articles/events, what have you. So we end up with /r/the_donald on the front page for anything related to that, but the discussions inside the threads are filled with you know - just look at one of those threads. Filled with bullshit basically - no real discussion.

/r/the_Donald member here. It's a party sub, it's not for discussion, we made /r/asktrumpsupporters for that.

We just seek to he the shitposting party capital of reddit.

You are certainly succeeding :)

Alex Jones is doing an AMA right now on /r/the_Donald btw

I'm sorry. I guess I will be banned from somewhere for saying what I think anymore...but here goes. The Donald Reddit is allowing blatant lies to be used in titles with no corrobation in the posts. People are too damn lazy to actually read what is posted....so, the titles stick. This can't be good. Neither can the censorship. I don't know what the answer is, but Reddit seems pretty shit right now to me....

Censorship is, apparently, hard work. Just ask this piece of dogshit.

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My post here https://www.np.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/4o5fl3/a_victim_of_the_waco_siege_1993_nsfl/ was just on the front page of /r/wtf not even an hour ago. That is to say - just one hour after posting, my thread was removed from the front page of /r/wtf. Now it is not even on the second or third page. As you can judge from the first few pages of /r/wtf, it does not take many points to reach the front page, nor to stay there.

This isn't the first time this has happened to me. Last time I posted a picture of Rhodesia to /r/pics, it was completely SFW. I was shadowbanned, no warning, no message, no nothing.

The other time I posted an offensive joke to /r/ImGoingToHellForThis and my post was removed. When I messaged the mods asking why they muted me and didn't respond.

There is no other subreddit to post this to. They have complete control over the entire website.

Why is this sticked? I swear a lot of this sub was for sanders.

Do you know how tiresome it is to see the inane thedonald sub posts littering the front page. It's fucking obtuse bullshit over and over and over again. I wouldn't vote for that giant orange piece of shit if you paid me and Clinton is just as worthless. I question the american people's mental stability as a whole due to these two fucksticks being your goddamned candidates for the most powerful office in the free world. Seriously America, what the fuck is wrong with you?

We DID vote in Bush and Obama... twice. Ron Paul wasn't stupid/shitty enough to vote for so we ignored him. So now we're left with the scum of the bottom of the barrel.

With that said, Trump is the only candidate we've had in a long time saying some of the "correct" things and pointing out legitimate problems with plans to solve them. That's why he's getting my vote.

i hope they fucking get rid of that shitty donald subreddit. No one is being serious over there right? trolly as fuck m8

nothing will be done by anyone.

Never did I think you would be aligned with the filter king and myself move so far away, strange times.

Filter king?

Alex

Hey /u/Spez,

You said you found no evidence of censorship in /r/news.

I have some evidence for you right here, they have a shit ton of users on an automod shadowban list simply for their opinions on other subreddits.

Go ahead, look at their automod. look at what happens when I post on /r/News.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4nsiw1/state_of_the_subreddit_and_the_orlando_shooting/d4898hb

see here I made a comment that was totally innocent. here I'll make another one.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4nsiw1/state_of_the_subreddit_and_the_orlando_shooting/d489ibn

there you go I made one just for you! see /u/spez! no censorship at all right?

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No I doubt it. I have a negative fan club that consistently downvotes me anywhere on Reddit no matter what the nature of my post. I doubt /u/spez gives enough of a shit to DV me himself.

Boo hoo

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ DONALD TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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how do you usually get your news?

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No, no it shouldn't. Wtf is going on here?

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how do you usually get your news?