Yes.

The three pieces of evidence I would use to prove this are as follows:

1: The lack of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. The fact that the plane had to fly in an impossible pattern (over the overpass then along the grounds of the Pentagon at less then 40Ft, judged impossible by skilled commercial pilots) 2: Explosions heard by bystanders & First Responders before the buildings fell into they're footprints. This is incredibly suspect as people from police with military backgrounds to fire fighters reported hearing the explosions. 3. Building 7 fell in the exact same way as the primary towers hit during 9/11 down into it's footprint. It collapsed "due to fire" in spite of no other steel core skyscraper in the HISTORY of architecture failing due to fire...

That for me is the final straw...

One of the reasons pilots find the approach to the pentagon impossible is that the plane was supposedly traveling so fast at such a low altitude, parallel with the ground, ground effect would have prohibited it. At that speed as well the airplanes control surfaces would have been inadequate and the plane non-responsive.

I agree about Building 7. I have experience in building demolition; I know for a fact it's simply impossible for a building to fall like that. I've had mid-rise building split open from roof to sub-basement... You can remove floors from below and the rest of the building will remain upright. If you remove enough floors the upper part will topple, but will fall like a tree. If enough of the building is intact, and you remove the lower floors, the upper stories will shear off and fall down, but the rest of the building remains standing. All of Building 7 columns needed to be severed at the same time for a footprint collapse... But the icing is the building fell into itself... Core first then perimeter. What we saw happen that day is simply impossible under the official narrative.

The only acceptable explanation that would work in the governments favor would be if due to the agencies working there, the building had been rigged for controlled demotion as a matter of national security... but if they were to admit that the can would be opened to a cover-up, which means every other finding would be in question. WT7 isn't in the official report simply because the official narrative is indefensible.

My heart votes yes, of course, but head said "no, not wikipedia-true yet" reading only the title. And then, you are making a strong point: either way it is a confirmed conspiracy as per the definitions and has a rightful place among the others. The failure mode of the Twins is irrefutable evidence of course, but too complicated for some and hence, one things sufficiently serves as authoritative confirmation: the testimony of the authors of the 9/11 Omission Report. 6 of 10 commissioners distanced themselves from it. End of debate.

A resoundung aye it is.

I'm reluctant to vote "yes" as we still do not have the proof as to who, exactly, perpetrated it. The ones in the wiki are all closed cases in that regard, aren't they? Don't get me wrong, I agree that it is indeed a cover up. However, the key piece of the puzzle is still missing.

Consider new-comers to the sub. They're going to read the wiki, come to the 9/11 post, get excited, and then poof no closure. What are they going to think? What would you think?

I'd buy that. You'd just have to be very precise with your wording in the title and body of the wiki.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItE28oeMnas

By all means, add it to the wiki after the 28 pages have been released. We should remain cautious until that point.

We have A complete Empirically Verifiable Scientific Method Driven Graphical Target System Analysis and Conclusion arrived at by Process of Elimination, that proves controlled demolition, WTC7 even look exactly like a traditional controlled demolition.

We have two peer reviewed scientific papers confirming thermite was used in some capacity to achieve this controlled demolition.

For more information about this peer reviewed scientific article...

• Thermitic Pyrotechnics in the WTC Made Simple: Three Points of Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe that Anyone Can Understand - A concise non-technical summary of three key points about recently documented unexploded pyrotechnics from the Twin Towers

• Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust: Scientists Discover Both Residues And Unignited Fragments Of High-Tech Metal Incendiaries In Debris From the Twin Towers - A non-technical guide to the newly published paper explaining the identification of nano-engineered explosive materials in dust from the Twin Towers

Some people still claim thermite can not cut through steel, well this has been validated experimentally thermite cutting through steel

FEMA in supports the two peer reviewed papers, they document in their Appendix C of its May 2002 WTC Building Performance Assessment Team study, for sample 1, “evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting.” A “sulfur-rich liquid” containing “primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur” “penetrated” into the steel.

We then have the vast amounts of evidence of molten metal, video, physical and eyewitness testimony that confirms this, the the United States Geological Survey indirectly confirm it, the RJ Lee Group issued a report, entitled “WTC Dust Signature,” at the request of the Deutsche Bank confirms previously metal in a molten state, the Journal of the American Society of Safety Engineers confirm it etc ect

We then have the government produce a report that was unscientific and fraudulent, literally a coverup, which has since been proven so and before that a PNAC policy document, "Rebuilding America's Defences" which openly advocates total global military domination and almost begs for a new pearl harbor

Watch The New American Century for more on that.

and that is just the tip of the iceberg, i think it is safe to say that the US government were directly complicit in organizing, planning and executing 9/11, an illegal act and a crime against humanity, the very definition of a conspiracy.

So yeah, i say add it.

Underrated post! Thanks!

Great post. Thanks. Saved.

I vote yea.

It's fucking OBVIOUS. What's truly amazing is how powerful the mind protects itself from seeing the truth (or how powerful mass programming is).

I realized the truth a few years ago. What follows is a brief set of links that I think outlines the events in a convincing way.

Official video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zac9vt3a4Ug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_zDPLcGqh0

B7:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Rm6ZFROmc

Dust:

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/explosive_residues.html

http://youtu.be/N6kJ4EpmMw0

http://youtu.be/lv2ck2qsiGA

http://911speakout.org/7TOCPJ.pdf

Taxi driver:

http://youtu.be/kvyQ0vVwjqc

A few other things you may find interesting:

http://youtu.be/ExENo-ZwPMg

http://youtu.be/0I6yEezSDV8

http://youtu.be/07Bn_CC_mrg

Be aware there is a lot of disinformation out there. You will now find videos claiming that lasers and nuclear weapons were used and that there weren't any planes at all. All of this is meant to make the real story look like a loony conspiracy theory. Stick to the evidence, and you will find the truth.

Finding the truth however, is not enough. I lied to myself and grasped at every possible reasoning I could think of to keep the official version as the truth. Only after years of self deceit did I finally accept the reality: At best, the government knew about the attack and took advantage of the opportunity. At worst... Well you get the picture.

I have spoken to a few people who were actually there. I fully believe the towers were taken down by something other than the initial impact. Hopefully the links above will help you in assessing what really happened that day.

The pilots for truth vids are astoundingly well done. Highly recommended buying the DVD.

Ipass this around every time I have the chance, and thank you for making it, and everyone else that helped.make this easy. I think k it belongs on the very bottom of the list as the ultimate example of anybody can poke a hole in the ommission Commission report. And then give a few solid points. Not sourcing, you know way more than me. In this. But do add for people to please look into the various points for themselves. The best medicine for cognitive dissonance. Discovering truth on your own.<3

Only in this dumbed down country could people still believe the official myth after all the evidence (nanothermite in the dust). After living for 7 years in Germany and then in the USA and noticing the huge disparity in intellect and education between the average person on the street, I'm not surprised people still believe cavemen can pull off a major operation of that magnitude and complexity. Not to mention that modern steel structures DO NOT collapse due to fire into their footprint at or near free fall speed and if they did we would have to re-write the entire building code in the whole country. This topic bores me now since it's become another "article of faith" like the holocaust with people who are emotionally weak and intellectually inferior just MUST believe and conform to the "authorities" and the status quo and every awake person is turned into a pariah.

I'm not German. I said I lived there 7 years and now I live in the USA. As bad as it is here, there are still a lot of great people here who are brilliant, creative and understand the issues and are actively working for progress. As success is in the minority here, so are they. The most encouraging recent fact is that only 6% of Americans actually trust the corporate fascist/government sanctioned media. This election is demonstrating to both Trump and Bernie supporters how rigged this system is. It is just too late. We will have Marshall law and a banking collapse before the masses wake up and decide to not put up with the constant psyops, false flag operations and financial tyranny. This is a prison planet after all.

1) Do you believe 9/11 was a confirmable coverup that should be included on the wiki "List of Confirmed Conspiracies"?

No.

He's wrong. Only one group of people would have access to WT7. That's not Saudi Arabia.

His post is just another example of disinformation. People are waking up, and the government is doubling down on the bullshit. It's getting to the point where they are loosing control. So now they're making it seem plausible that something else went on other than the official story. Sure... Blame Saudi Arabia. What a joke.

Don't forget about the missile hitting the pentagon. Just where did that plane go anyway? What happened to all those people? Or was the passenger list all CIA?

Don't forget about the missile hitting the pentagon.

This appears to be a great honeypot created by the US government to mislead and distract honest truth seekers

What hit the Pentagon. The nearly unanimous testimony of over a hundred eyewitnesses, is that a large aircraft, consistent with a 757, flew very low at very high speed, clipped several light poles, and crashed into the face of the Pentagon at ground level. Still, speculation persists that the Pentagon was hit by something else, such as a Global Hawk or a cruise missile. The eyewitness testimony is consistent with the pattern of damage both inside and outside of the Pentagon. - David Chandler

It has even been used against you in this very thread, DownWithAssad claims there is nothing untoward happened on 9/11 and doesn't think it is a conspiracy and believes the government, which is of course completely incorrect, but correctly states the Pentagon was hit by a large airliner, this is what all the evidence says to be true based on the evidence.

David Chandler, Jonathan Cole, Nathan Flach, Dr. Niels Harrit etc etc, some of the best and honest 9/11 researchers are in agreement with this

The problem is that the eyewitness testimony has a significantly different flight path than direction the plane has to have come from.

The government's prime witness and "evidence" was the taxi driver and car. He has admitted that the whole thing was fake while thinking he wasn't being recorded. I feel bad for the man, he was set up and feared for his life.

The problem is that the eyewitness testimony has a significantly different flight path than direction the plane has to have come from.

That actually is not true, this myth was probably put out by the very people defending the government, i know, it is absurd.

Seriously, i am a genuine 9/11 truther i outright reject disinformation like nukes, DEW's, space beams, the official account etc, the Pentagon, although irrelevant in the grand scheme of things to determine that 9/11 was a false flag carried out by the US government, is a honey pot and the unanimous testimony of over a hundred eyewitnesses, is that a large aircraft, consistent with a 757 (probably a modified military drone), flew very low at very high speed, clipped several light poles, and crashed into the face of the Pentagon at ground level.

This scenario is also consistent with Norman Mineta’s testimony

A spiral descent is not something consistent with a missile either

Lloyde England's (taxi driver) didn't admit there was no plane, his wife also worked at the Pentagon and could have been part of the honey pot, he only ever admitted it was all planned, he also could be a complete liar.

A honey pot, in intelligence jargon, is a tempting source of information or 'dangle' that is set out to lure intended victims into a trap. Ultimately the honey pot is violently and maliciously discredited so as to destroy the credibility of anything stuck to it by association

READ THIS

Fair enough. I don't think this is cut and dry; while I don't argue with what your saying, I maintain that something other than a 757 struck the pentagon.

Regarding England, I assume you've seen the whole thing?

http://youtu.be/kvyQ0vVwjqc

Edit: As a response to your link (thanks BTW); the reason why I don't agree is because I do not think they would take the chance of flying a full size 757 into to pentagon (I have considered this before). The location where the impact happened was very specific. If something were to go wrong and stuck somewhere else in the building, it would have been a failure. The tower impact only had to hit a general area of floors. The pentagon impact had to hit a specific office.

Missiles? No such thing.

Missing planes? All accounted for.

Dead bodies? All accounted for.

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I have educated myself. That's how I know the towers and wt7 were demolished using explosives/thermite.

Your attempt to keep this covered up will fail.

Do your country a favor and become a whistleblower.

First, I'm Canadian.

Second, you have to read the report.

Thermite, missiles, etc. No evidence for that. All of those accusations have been debunked.

You are spreading anti-American disinformation. You're being used to seed propaganda and you willingly spread it. Shameful and pathetic.

Useful idiots still exist, it seems.

Thermite No evidence for that. All of those accusations have been debunked

There are two peer reviewed papers that scientifically prove thermite was present, can you point me to the two peer reviewed papers that prove them wrong....

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Missiles? No such thing.

Missing planes? All accounted for.

Dead bodies? All accounted for.

Don't forget about the missile hitting the pentagon.

This appears to be a great honeypot created by the US government to mislead and distract honest truth seekers

What hit the Pentagon. The nearly unanimous testimony of over a hundred eyewitnesses, is that a large aircraft, consistent with a 757, flew very low at very high speed, clipped several light poles, and crashed into the face of the Pentagon at ground level. Still, speculation persists that the Pentagon was hit by something else, such as a Global Hawk or a cruise missile. The eyewitness testimony is consistent with the pattern of damage both inside and outside of the Pentagon. - David Chandler

It has even been used against you in this very thread, DownWithAssad claims there is nothing untoward happened on 9/11 and doesn't think it is a conspiracy and believes the government, which is of course completely incorrect, but correctly states the Pentagon was hit by a large airliner, this is what all the evidence says to be true based on the evidence.

David Chandler, Jonathan Cole, Nathan Flach, Dr. Niels Harrit etc etc, some of the best and honest 9/11 researchers are in agreement with this