Iam having some pretty interesting conversations lately. My flea market the agora of our day indeed. People out there know I am the chick with the beads. I help a guy out that is in a wheelchair cause he can't stand very long. The tone and the content. Earlier i had the exchange: hey, what color are you? Same as you, all of them. And while her and I speak little wehave been speaking what matters and people know it. One love can be Avery real thing once you engage in it and don't just wear the shirt.<3

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Am I an idiot or am I missing something, is this a song?

I can't for the life of my gather any sense lol.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vdB-8eLEW8g

Well, yes.

No

No. I doubt it would ever take place. At least not before we already know we are utterly doomed.

All thieves are caught in the end.

That's the Disney version we are all told. In real life the corrupt prosper, and always have.

If you mean the USA is a crumbling empire, I agree, and the evidence is everywhere. My point was on the individual level. Why won't Dick Cheney be tried as a war criminal? Why wasn't Kissinger, who I think just turned 94? The powerful rarely pay a price, unless they fight for good like JFK, MLK, etc.

So no, I used to think there would one day be a great awakening of some sort. But then I started taking a better look at those around me who are interested in the trivialities of life, TV, pop culture etc. I do not expect to ever see a mass movement until people finally figure out how screwed they really are, when it comes to the environment etc. Americans didn't protest in 2007-2008 when millions were losing homes, were jobless and most had lost approx. 40% of their retirements. Americans didn't protest when indefinite detention became law. They didn't protest when citizens united passed... The TPP is about to pass, and I don't see much movement toward stopping it.

I've become pretty cynical that humanity deserves to survive in the long run.

Corrupt or not. Nothing is ever permanent. The only thing that stays for generations are the very old organizations like Lloyds of London. I suspect that a list of the very oldest organizations would be a good list of the illuminati. I think I just contradicted myself. Whatever.

The Templar/Mason groups, if your me into that, seem to have lasted quite a while.

What is a shadow government?

Oh, I would just call it the government. I think the word "shadow" as a prefix just glamourizes the situation

The government you are referring to are a bunch of talking heads.

How deep does the government go? I mean in my opinion its just the three branches and the president.

Could someone explain how the shadow government is structured?

go to top/alltime and start watching. Because honestly no, none of us could delineate the exact structure of a hidden government, but, just like the laws of physics, that does not make its felt effects any less real.

I'm not quite sure what effects there would be, I mean the government governs and essentially makes the world a livable place.

I notice im alive and that I can browse reddit as well as walk to the grocery store without being accosted by a forearm toting madman.

I also have the freedom to drive town to town or even cross country if I so desired. Where is the proof of a "shadow government's" effect?

I just see a government doing its best to keep the American dream alive.

Im not trying to be a nay-sayer, I just need a little proof to believe.

The proof is in this damn subreddit. Do what I said and start reading, not to be rude, but unless you're a complete nincompoop you'll notice a trend.

obligatory:Come back when you're not on the NSA computers (they won't know ;))

I have been browsing this subreddit for a few days now and I've not seen anything really worth believing. I mean there are links everywhere as well as YouTube videos but I keep a wide berth from YouTube unless im watching something videogame related or listening to music and the links on r/conspiracy are all risky-clicks.

I'm not trying to be placed on some sort of pro-terror watch list just for following a link to some unknown website that probably has little truth as to any kind of effects of a shadow government.

As far as NSA computers go, im no fed nor do I have any affiliation. I'm just skeptical of my reality (I have schizophrenia) and I have learned not to believe anything but what I can deduce myself.

I'm open to discuss just about any conspiracy from an objective viewpoint but when nobody can put forth proof, I remain skeptical.

watch this

I just said I don't do YouTube lol

Well if you don't want to learn you're fucked, sorry :P

I'm trying to learn but ya don't seem to want to give me your opinions or truths in text format.

I'll write out a memo, get it notarized and sent to your dept. ASAP.

What, the skeptical schizo department?

Sure.

Start here:

https://www.amazon.com/American-Deep-State-Democracy-Library/dp/1442214244

hahahahahhahahahah no