I think G.B.(The monarchy, and Central Banks) wanted to leave the EU to form another Union.

Central Banker Rothschild was begging the UK to stay in the EU just days before the vote, but I think you are right about the Monarchy, they would love nothing more than to bring back the focus on the commonwealth; the EU was making them weaker.

In a time when "anti-establishment", and "anti-elite" notions are majority public sentiment, what better endorsement of the Brexit is there than to have the Central Bankers, Globalists, David Cameron, etc, be against it? It seems to me that David Cameron, and the whole establishment, Central Bankers included wanted this, and played the public like a fiddle. If the people hate you, and you want something to happen, just say you support the opposite.

It's like with Trump in America. The Bushes, and Establishment have made this whole charade, in which they hate Trump(yet he gets more free air time given to him by ALL American media than anybody I've seen in my life). This is because in America, a vast majority of citizens(and an even greater majority of Republicans), are voting against the establishment. The fact that the Bushes will not endorse trump is a PLUS for his campaign. Trump is surrounding himself with tons of Bush people. Bush helped Israel Greatly. Trump is heavily entrenched with Israel.

By making it seem like Trump and Bush(and the Establishment the Bush Dynasty Represents) are at odds, they have garnered more support for Trump than if the Bushes had endorsed him from the start. This, however does not change the fact that Trump will be surrounded by the same people, and working for the same foreign/globalist interests that the Bushes served so loyally.

Similarly, even though David Cameron, and the globalists(and Central Bankers) were the one who STARTED the referendum in the first place, they have tricked you into thinking they were against it all along.

It's very simple. If the public hates you, and you want something to happen, just pretend to support the opposite.

I would be inclinded to agree with you, but the EU is the elites wet dream. It allows appointed individuals to make unpopular decisions without taking flak by being so far above the vote taken by the people. It is a tactic to seperate the people who really have the power, from the people who want or need someone to blame. While a federation of states can succeed I dont think it can with the way the EU was set to run.

The reasons for the elite to want remain was pretty paramount I'm curious as to your theory on why the elite would really want people to vote brexit and used their support for bremain as a means to make it happen. What is the end game?

I said it in my post. The USA will not join the E.U.(and thus the 1 world gov't) because there is a stigma against Europe in the USA. However, the USA is culturally similar to Britain, and has respect for them that surpasses respect for all other European nations. It is possible that the UK/Globalists/Central Bankers are creating another "Union", with North America, and some parts of Asia/Pacific. If Great Britian was still in the E.U. the US and others would not feel that the U.K. is fully committed to the new "union". Great Britain joined the E.U. to help it in its infancy(as well as arguably creating it). They've also helped create the African Union, which is very powerful. Now that the E.U. is all grown up, they are leaving, to start the North American/Pacific Union, or whatever it will be called. Then, from there, it's just a matter of combining these Unions, and making them work in a world gov't/court. That's how I see the "end game". It's all about getting more nationstates to join into this internationally governed alliance.

I don't think just because Great Britain left means they don't want these Unions to prosper. I think they're jump-starting the North American Union, and giving it some credibility, and economic viability, and guidance(similar to what they did with African Union, and European Union). There's really not much change for G.B. in terms of leaving the E.U. They're still a trade partner, and probably won't even be penalized that much for leaving. It just can't SEEM like Great Britain is leaving on purpose, to go start another union.

In a few years, we'll see what happens for sure.

Right. But with a new union popping up wouldn't the EU, and its otherwise downward spiral with whats happened with Greece, The refugee crisis, and now brexit that the people will see it as another E.U. and reject being apart of it?

While i can see a scenario you painted played out, I see the one problem for the assumed North American Union to be people being able to reflect on it as already set to fail if this Brexit takes the EU's downwars spiral down to far.

You're right; America would never join the EU, and i don't think for that matter our supreme court would rule it constitutional to create a north American Union. You would also have the succession of states gaining tremendous support from the people who already feel federal government has extended its reach (states like Texas, Florida, Alabama etc).

In short I think it would put to much at risk for the elite to establish a new E.U. for the north America's, and the push could otherwise create civil war.

I see Brexit as the elite thinking they had more power then they actually have. It feels more like a tortoise and hare type scenario where insteadrigging votes etc., they had faith in their manipulation and propaganda, and it shows people are finally fed up with it, andare no longer listening to it anymore.

Well, they aren't calling it the E.U. They're calling it the TPP, and they're doing it in secret(sort of). I'm sure you're aware of it. The TPP is one of 5 treaties that are part of the current plan. They passed fast tracking in USA for 5 years(that means no need to publicly debate). The American people may not currently be in favor of such a system(as many in Europe were not at the time of the E.U's inception). But, the youth is being propagandized with the idea the Europe(and thus the E.U.) does everything better, and that socialism is the answer. As the old die, and the new generations of propagandized youth grow into a majority, it will become easier(every year, millions of baby boomer voters are dying off). Combine this with the fact that they have ALREADY passed fast tracking for 5 years for the TPP(and the 4 coming parts), and I think it is a LIKELY assertion, that the TPP, and its 4 other parts will result in a E.U. like scenario, in the near future. From what we know about the TPP, it already supersedes the constitution, and foreign judges have more power than federal/state ones.

I'm not saying it's right. It's just what's goin on. American Federal Judges have already ruled that international courts, which are created by treaties that the USA legitimately signs onto are parallel to the constitution. I don't agree with the rulings, but it is the current precedent in the USA, meaning the TPP, or any E.U. like plans will not likely be stopped by the courts(because they already allow FISA, international intelligence courts to be parallel to the constitution).

and TPP is a trade agreement which even though has the potential to be a consolidation of power still lacks that political arm of a federation that we see with the E.U.

For the most part i am inclinded to believe you because i always like scratching my beard and wondering if things are what they seem. However from what we've seen in the last 40 years from the E.U. it has been a slow power grab where the top officials are not blamed for the unpopular decisions made by the people at the top; instead the elected officials take flak and it's blown over the next time something big happens in geopolitics.

I'm glad you are keeping your skepticism, because some of us have to. I for one think this puts TPP on the back burner because more pressing matters have occured. Let's see what happens; This referendum could be the catalyst that pulls the E.U. apart which in turn would cause so much bureaucratic chaos that i don't think TTP will be on anyone's agenda.

At the end of the day all we can do is wait and watch. I feel like there is something big on the horizon; who knows this might be a move to anticipate the next market crash that's expected next year. Regaurdless; this is one hell of a time to be alive.

Much love my brother; be well.

Spot on, except Cameron didn't want this, it was forced upon him by his party backbenchers.

People who knew him said he would have been Leave, but since he was PM he had no choice but to be Remain

I'm looking forward to Cameron's post politics acting career. Given how convincing he was in his fake bremain role he's got a chance for multiple oscars

Cameron didn't want the Brexit. It was an election promise he made to try and stop the growing grass roots support for UKIP, which was dragging a lot of votes away from the Conservative Party, and to prevent more back bench MPs defecting to UKIP. After giving Scotland a referendum regarding self determination, he placed himself in a position where it would have been hypocritical to refuse the rest of the Union a similar say in our future in the EU.

The Rothschilds aka Bauers controlled all the Wealth of the European monarchies for centuries. In fact, all the european Monarchies are heavily indebted to Rothschilds since the 1750s . You still think it was Oliver Cromwell who overthrew the King in England? The Rothschild's overthrew King Charles, and the rest of the European monarchies got the message. It was the first powerful move to dominate the World. Henceforth, they had enough wealth to crush any nation and Kings.They became the hidden Kings puppeteering other monarchies and nations around the World. In this way they can remove any politician King or leader by financing a popular uprising or revolt. And Since they are the invisible hands, no one could point any fingers at them or direct any blame on them.

The UK monarchy is a worthless symbol of the past, they are frontline workers of a powerful hidden Zionist family. The Rothschild's may have decided to seperate London from the rest of the financial mess they created and inflated to collapse or Brexit isnt worth the paper they voted on and is just symbolic. The system may colapse before Britain even gets to gather the paperwork to leave legally.

Do you have evidence to back this up?

Here is a start Doc

But you can just google 'Rothschild power' and resources are endless. Think of it? If you control all money, you control everything. If Kings and nations borrow from you. You own them. The Most clever power, is the one you cannot see but directs everything.

I already know that Money is just an illusion for Control we all know this. But I wouldn't ever bother google such a thing because something that specific is usually full of misinformation and distractions.

The Commonwealth??? Since when has the Commonwealth been relevant?? It's a relic of the colonial age. The UK ranks as Australia's 7th largest trading partner behind NZ and Singapore, and we are not going to suddenly jump back into bed with them now that they have split from the EU. If anything it will probably finally persuade the Australia people to have another referendum on becoming a republic like the Scots and maybe even Northern Ireland. The Commonwealth is about as relevant as Johnny Manziel is to the NFL!!

It is relevant to the Royal Family and will be the new source of cheap labor if you really do get out of the EU

Brexit was rigged from the start, as I got to find out everyone up to Breitbart are frauds thats why it always got polled as a tie or remain win and also why we saw no exit polls, that would have truly shown shocking numbers I think.

But now everyone is happy, all those in the know had long prepared and us the workers think we had a victory over these darned globalists by turning it into a win and everyone is too busy jerking each other off to look at voting fraud going on and realize we got played from the start.

But now everyone is happy, all those in the know had long prepared and us the workers think we had a victory over these darned globalists by turning it into a win and everyone is too busy jerking each other off to look at voting fraud going on and realize we got played from the start.

And if the REMAIN won, everyone in this sub would be saying, "the globalists rigged it!" This sub is certified retarded with comments like this. How does Britain leaving the EU benefit the NWO or the banking elite? How does it benefit the globalists in Brussels? It doesn't. Not everything is completely controlled and masterfully manipulated by occult wizards behind closed doors. When you believe this shit, it takes your own power away from you because you don't think you have any chance of winning. That's what elites want.

Britain just stood up for itself against the NWO and won. Conspiracy should be celebrating. Instead, there's a bunch of people that now... support(?) the EU/NOW globalization plan. The Brexit has truly brought the morons out of the woodwork.

It is naive to think the global elite would leave anything up for grabs. Including the freedom of anyone on this planet. If you think a large issue like this is purely negative for the global elite then you're naive.

These people have controlled the world for over 80 years now. They will not play by the rules. This is not monopoly, this is a power game where the global elite has monopoly on power. It doesn't matter if everything points towards a loss for the global elite, when you own the whole game, you cannot lose.

It's not that they rigged it, it's that it was indifferent from the start. The people believe they made a difference, they didn't. If this affected the global elite's plans then it's like a pebble compared to Africa. Their resources are close to infinite.

It is naive to think the global elite would leave anything up for grabs.

It's NAIVE to think that the global elite have the ability to control every aspect of every single political decision on Earth.

Including the freedom of anyone on this planet.

So who's the global elite in your mind? Name the names and the institutions they belong to.

Would you not agree that the powers at be would include themselves in political and economical matters across the globe if they could? By that I mean it is naive think there is a place they would not include themselves on this planet. Clearly they were very well aware of the brexit issue for years now and since they're aware of how manipulative, expensive and worthless the EU really is they prepared for the date when nations leave the EU. I believe it is very naive to believe they would just sit back and relax whilst people of the world vote them out of their lives.

It's the oligarchy, the wealthy and the people in power. I cannot name these by names but it is quite obvious there is something behind the scenes. These are the same that made money through many different ways but what is the most iconic is the involvement with wars such as WW1 and WW2.

Obviously these are just my opinions and nothing else but I wouldn't celebrate just yet.

if they could?

Wait... "if they could?" Didn't you just say "It is naive to think the global elite would leave anything up for grabs. Including the freedom of anyone on this planet."

How can it be "if" if you believe they already have complete and unchecked control of everything?

It's a hypothetical question to you. My beliefs is that they can because I am not willing to limit their reach because nobody could not simply know where they could have a finger involved in the game. I would also argue that if(my beliefs is not reality, which is why I use "if") they could involve themselves in economical games across the globe, would it not be in their interests? There are countless methods to involve your politics behind the scenes and I am sure we all are aware of this. Why is it safe to say they're not involved in a post-brexit UK just because UK is not part of the European Union?

Right now I can only assume that you believe every single politician that is in favor of UK without EU is sincere in not having big corporations legislate laws in UK because this is essentially one of the core parts of leaving EU, bringing back democracy. However, this is putting limit on the big corporations which(in my beliefs) can manipulate the politics in UK with or without EU. That's what I meant when I said it is naive to think they would leave anything up for grabs.

I am in favor of removing EU from all European nations but that doesn't mean everyone in our nations have our best interests at heart. I am not trying to cause a ruckus or anything, I just feel you're celebrating a tad early and that's all.

Um, IMF, World Bank, EU, Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Relations, Alec, to name a few. You can look up the membership roster on your own. It'll be good for you to work on your skills.

Brexit was a signal for the elite to sell short the market

Anyone who doesn't believe in a global conspiracy would be the ones who lost a lot of money on the stock market. I am kind of glad they lost their money. Because that's what I consider an asshole tax for making us 'tinfoil hatters' wrong for 15 yrs.

I never said I support such a platform, what I will tell you is that almost everything you think to know is fake, fraudulent

Every issue in your life has the solution provided to you by the same people creating the problem, don't get blinded

<slowly pulls off anonymous fawkes jesuit mask, places gently into wastebasket>

I know you're joking but that's just what it is.

They were all claiming we won't leave because it was rigged haha. It's painful on hear to see Americans talk about UK politics when clearly they have no idea

Then why are you in this sub moron?

Because 911 was an inside job.

First smart thing you've said.

Everyone is not happy. Half the country is spitting feathers.

It's comical because this sub was adamant that ur was rigged and we weren't leaving. Make your mind up. It wasn't rigged stop being so deluded.

no no no. all nations which use dollar as currency belongs to the british crown.

US is also called the Virginia company, which is owned by the District of Columbia.

Fun fact: options and futures are zero sum but the stock market is not.

Zero sum in the sense of # of contracts but not price. There can be gaps and low volume moves which creates/destroys value.

If the market crashes 600 points in a day, just to use an example, that means publicly traded companies had their market cap values plummet hundreds of billions $ collectively. Whether a person wants to call that "real" or "fake" is up to them.

This is Best Buy's market valuation. https://www.google.com/finance?cid=4408

Click on all or 10years, it is a roller coaster fluctuating from 11 to 60 dollars up and down. Is that real or fake. (other stocks have that same roller coaster curve.)

I think G.B.(The monarchy, and Central Banks) wanted to leave the EU to form another Union. This one will be with USA, Canada(G.B. crown country), Australia(G.B. crown country), Japan(Tpp Partner), and others, who are not able to join the European Union, due to Geography.

I believe this too. My beliefs is far from many people here but maybe some here share my beliefs that most(if not all) large changes in politics and economics is(if not rigged) made in favor of the global elite. There are no way people in their position would stand by as the world they created crumble. They will be at every corner of the world and if they cannot be there, they will be there by other means. Be that with spies, infiltration or other means.

People who believe we can "vote" into a free society is incredibly naive. The government should be a product of our opinions and views, not the other way around and right now it is the other way around.

I'm sorry but this kind of union already exists , like not in a paranoid nut job type of way, but it's called the commonwealth, and while it does not have a single currency ( anymore ) it does have a lot of political social and economic sway

I tend to agree with you. Although it seems like TPTB wouldn't want a Brexit to occur. It seems unlikely that it would have happened if they did not. I find myself wondering, also, if perhaps the reason that the UK was never made to go Euro is a sign that they were always intended to leave.

"The Richest People in the World lost 127 Billion dollars"

How is this a bad thing?

Also holy shit , you're all delusional , now you're saying Brexit was rigged in favor of exiting? lol , is that why Cameron was shitting his pants during his resignation speech? Cause his Leave rigging worked?

They fucking rigged it as hard as they could in favor of stay and it wasn't enough , for fuck sake, you had a "52% STAY poll " broadcasted on all MSM channels during the entire referendum already impregnating the narrative that Brexit lost, even though exit polls are illegal.

All the dive the Pound had was a desperate final attack , another fear mongering tactic , which also failed...

Read this article:

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2062.htm

They're already capitulating with their NWO plan and most probably will take Putin's offer from the 2006 speech on his view of a Multipolar world, if you take a look in the eastern part of the world , Putin is signing cooperation contracts with Hu Jintao one after the other, especially military ones . All of this would lead to the Fusion scenario.

They're desperate, they're scared, and since now they know, that we know, they've become dangerous !

yep

They must have got what they wanted. The UK is divided. Either way, TPTB will benefit. They rule. The politicians are pawns, and we are slaves. You do know that this isn't the end anyway. It will go on for 2 years, or perhaps more. Cameron said that he would invoke article 50 of the Lisbon treaty if "Leave" won. This takes at least 2 years of negotiations. There is nothing preventing a second referendum after that time. Britain is divided over this decision. Isn't that a success for them anyway?

It is naive to think the global elite would leave anything up for grabs.

It's NAIVE to think that the global elite have the ability to control every aspect of every single political decision on Earth.

Including the freedom of anyone on this planet.

So who's the global elite in your mind? Name the names and the institutions they belong to.

Brexit was a signal for the elite to sell short the market

Anyone who doesn't believe in a global conspiracy would be the ones who lost a lot of money on the stock market. I am kind of glad they lost their money. Because that's what I consider an asshole tax for making us 'tinfoil hatters' wrong for 15 yrs.

Right. But with a new union popping up wouldn't the EU, and its otherwise downward spiral with whats happened with Greece, The refugee crisis, and now brexit that the people will see it as another E.U. and reject being apart of it?

While i can see a scenario you painted played out, I see the one problem for the assumed North American Union to be people being able to reflect on it as already set to fail if this Brexit takes the EU's downwars spiral down to far.

You're right; America would never join the EU, and i don't think for that matter our supreme court would rule it constitutional to create a north American Union. You would also have the succession of states gaining tremendous support from the people who already feel federal government has extended its reach (states like Texas, Florida, Alabama etc).

In short I think it would put to much at risk for the elite to establish a new E.U. for the north America's, and the push could otherwise create civil war.

I see Brexit as the elite thinking they had more power then they actually have. It feels more like a tortoise and hare type scenario where insteadrigging votes etc., they had faith in their manipulation and propaganda, and it shows people are finally fed up with it, andare no longer listening to it anymore.