Flat Earth is a Zionist psy-op to discredit the Concave Earth- ft. HILLARY

0  2016-06-27 by PrimalRedemption

With all the attention lately on Hillary, Orlando, and Brexit, it will be difficult to give what I feel to be one of the most important conspiracies in the world today the attention it deserves. But if you read through my long post with a receptive mind and spend some time on the links I provide, I assure that you will have interesting discoveries if not profound revelations.

Have you ever wondered why the Flat Earth movement even exists? It is readily apparent that the movement was founded by Zionists, but why is it being pushed on such a massive scale?

There are two simple answers: 1) Disinformation. T"P"TB know something about the true nature of the Earth/Reality and are intentionally misleading people into lies mixed with truth.

2) Discreditation by Association. By filling the psy-op with cringe-worthy new age/metro-sexual douche bags and willfully ignorant and obnoxious shills, they make the alternative non-globe Earth theory -Concave- seem ridiculous by default.

They know the Earth is Concave and they want to discredit it as much as possible by associating it with the Flat Earth. The surface curves UP forming a hollow sphere, it is completely stationary, and the entirety of the "universe" is contained within the Earth.

This about this for a moment. Flat Earth is not the only thing being associated with Concave Earth. What other theory in existence has as its top content producer a guy who calls himself Jesus Christ and tells everyone to get his Mark of the Beast tattoo? You cannot do a search on Concave Earth and NOT have this guy show up on the front page. Don't believe for an instant that this is by coincidence.

There is a psy-op against the Concave Earth. And I will tell you why: because the implications of knowing the truth about the Earth and this Reality are enormous:

-We are literally living in a reality bubble, an enclosed prison/ factory farm where our souls are recycled endlessly through reincarnation and used as a food source. -Aliens and UFOs are a massive psy-op to keep us afraid or full of false hope (The Arcturians and Pleiadians are coming to save you!! The Galactic frequencies will usher in the dawn of a New Age...blah blah blah) and may be used as a false flag invasion to usher in the NW"O". -Real estate is extremely limited and implementation of a one world government and takeover of land is a lot worse than you've imagined. -The role you play, your life, your decisions are far more impactful on reality and the fate of the world than you've imagined. -The Bible may contain elements of truth and hint at the possibility of creationism and that the world is run by Lucifer. -The Sun is inside the Earth and nearby and could very well stop in place, scorching the land below. -The Ether exists. -The North and South poles might actually be ways OUT of here.

Now, before I present to you the Concave Earth theory, I will explain the main proofs why Earth is NOT a globe.

1) We see objects at such distances that would have them many feet beneath the horizon on a convex sphere in situations where refraction cannot account for or would even reverse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8auPtlRTyM (in this particular experiment done at night over a body of water, light would actually refract away from the surface because water holds onto heat more than the atmosphere above it, hence creating a temperature gradient of warm air into denser cold air which refracts light away from the surface. The laser is still seen in spite of this, showing conclusively that the surface cannot be convex.)

2) With elevation the horizon level remains the same whereas with a convex sphere it should lower by the ArcCos(RadiusEarth/(RadiusEarth+Elevation)) http://www.wildheretic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=255&hilit=horizon+line+drop

3) Earth is stationary as proved by Airy's failure (named such, ironically, because Airy sought to disprove the notion of a stationary Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dHMf9MYZmc

4) The Ether exists as shown by Sagnac, disproving Einsteins theory of Relativity and therefore Gravity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmlimH7laY

So, we know the Earth cannot be a globe. Then what the hell is it? People see a flat horizon and assume it must be flat. These are some of the main reasons Earth cannot be Flat:

1) The stars in the southern hemisphere rotate about an opposite axis to those in the north (Skewed perspective cannot explain this. Not even holograms can explain this one on a flat model).

2) The Sun would never set given the calculated height they give it of 3000 miles via the sextant (flat earthers will claim it sets due to perspective but the fact is it would never be far away enough to even come close to appear to set. To set within just 1 degree above the horizon it would have to be 171,000 miles away).

3) Flight times would not work in the Southern Hemisphere.

Now, knowing the Earth is not convex nor flat, one might assume that Concave Earth theory is arrived at by deduction. On the contrary, there is empirical evidence showing concavity to the curvature. In fact, Concave Earth is the only Earth theory to be supported by a direct physical line experiment!

1) The Rectilineator experiment of 1897 erected a straight line over a distance and found that the Earth's curvature was actually rising UP at the rate of 8 inches per mile: http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory/6/

2) Tamarack Mines experiment: Plum bobs were hung down two vertical mine shafts spaced a mile apart. The bottoms of the plum lines were actually found to be further apart than the tops. In other words, the lines diverged instead of converged and showed the force vector of gravity to be originating from a center point up in the sky: http://www.wildheretic.com/concave-earth-theory/4/

You also find very interesting oddities explained by Concave Earth. For example, one of them was the Paris Gun project of WW1 Germany. They created a long range super gun capable of hitting Paris 80km away but found a very peculiar result:

"These experiments uncovered what appeared at first sight to be a strange result: that maximum ranges are best achieved at elevations of around 50 to 55 degrees, not the 45 degrees that geometry (and ideal conditions in a vacuum) would suggest." http://www.landships.info/landships/artillery_articles/Paris_Kanone.html

In other words, they had to aim their gun UP to account for the concavity of the surface!

This very well may be the origin of the Nazi's knowledge of Concave Earth, which several books have mentioned but apparently has never been historically documented. Interestingly enough, Wernher von Braun had inscribed on his tombstone " "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament showeth his handywork".

Were the Nazi's on to something? Did one of Von Braun's missiles collide with a glass firmament?

Concave Earth solves some of the most enigmatic mysteries. For example, the passage in the Bible: "And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament". This would make no sense in a Flat or Globe earth, but in Concave Earth, it suddenly becomes plausible. The glass sky only works in Concave Earth.

How much evidence do we have of a glass sky? A ton. So many phenomenon occur at 100km high that it is beyond coincidence.

-Radar waves reflect back down to the surface at 100km -Lightning Sprites appear to hit an invisible layer and branch out sideways at 100km -The Aurora Borealis starts at 100km -The Schumann resonance takes place at 100km -The Karman line begins at 100km -Satellite guns were ordered not to fire above 100km http://www.astronautix.com/articles/abroject.htm -Operation "Fishbowl" literally exploded bombs up in the sky as if trying to break through glass -We have Sunbows, moonbows, sun dogs and other optical effects not caused by simple atmosphere. -Meteors have molten glass on the outside known as a fusion crust that is chemically different and separate from the silica within them. -Tektites -Libyan Dessert glass -Rainbows (chromatically abberated light) -Predictive programming from the mainstream media: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuUqrnMBVqY -And even HILLARY CLINTON boldly announces it in front of everyones face! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssVFpTKZSA&feature=youtu.be&t=145

Listen to what she says: "And it may be hard to see tonight but we are all standing other a glass ceiling right now (audience cheers). But don't worry, we're not smashing this one (audience goes uhhh wtf)"

Here is the fascinating thing: if we understand that there is glass in the sky, the Earth then becomes the perfect spherical capacitor. The glass acts as the insulator between the outer surface we live on and the celestial "Heaven" in the center. The tremendous charge pressure could very well then, via a form of the Biefield-brown effect, create an outward charge pressure toward the surface i.e. gravity while simultaneously creating an opposing charge pressure toward the center: levity, a gravity inversion.

This explains how an ocean would be able to be ABOVE the firmament! It also explains ancient alien theory where the 'Gods' not only had a place to live eat sleep and breathe but the gravity to do so! Afterall they made us in their image, they came from "Heaven", and we clearly function in gravity, so gravity must have heaven.

Interestingly, "Nibiru" actually literally means "Place of Crossing", NOT "planet of crossing". In the concave Earth then the place of crossing would be the center of the Earth, up in "Heaven". The "heavenly city of jerusalem" spoken of in the Bible also makes sense here, it being 1500 miles wide, long, and high. That just about fits in the center of the celestial Heaven in concave Earth.

I came up with this alternate theory of gravity several days before another predictive programming commercial came out. Check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDvToZlj8ZU

Watch it very closely; the craft breaks through a glass sky, goes through a hot layer of plasma, does a gravity inversion and lands in a celestial ocean!! This is exactly what my model predicted.

The gradient of charge pressure may very well be the cause of bending light in the concave earth, the same way light bends through gradients of medium density. As many people point out, "if it's concave how come we don't see the other side". Well, because light bends and flattens out the horizon as has been shown by geodecist Wilhelm Martin: http://www.wildheretic.com/bendy-light-the-evidence/

In conclusion, Concave Earth is the ultimate Truth uncovered at the very bottom of the rabbit hole. It is the missing puzzle piece that fits everything, EVERYTHING about our human experience together. Share this post, help get the truth out, help get this viral. It is vitally important that humanity knows that they are living in a giant terrarium.

TL;DL Flat Earth only exists to discredit the Concave Earth, which through experimentation and logic can be shown to be the correct model of the Earth and Universe. In other words, the post is worth reading and this needs to go viral.

67 comments

Upvoted. I'm not as certain as you with regards to the truth of Concave Earth, but the evidence really does make this post worth reading, despite the sad human behavior seen here to not even give it a chance.

At the minimum, there is something very wrong with the Copernican Astronomical model, Relativity, "Space" Footage, Moon and Mars hoaxes. I hope that this subreddit at least can come to terms with that, and give this information a chance.

No, stop being a useful idiot for disinfo shit posters.

Read my other post to you, confirmed non-reader.

This isn't disinfo and my post was of very high quality compared to the others I see on this forum.

The horizon line should lower with increased elevation on a globe, by the way http://www.wildheretic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=255&hilit=horizon+line+drop

I don't understand why they haven't moved on to another subject... Flat Earth... Concave Earth... We get it. It's officially stale as fuck. Please start the next disinfo campaign already. I'm thinking each campaign shouldn't last more than 2 or 3 months.

Don't forget the mandella effect. The theme is to induce a paradigm shift into an illusory reality state. It's a targeted usurpation of the human belief system.

I disagree. There are many facts supporting the Mandela effect, for instance the fact the "Curious George" was a Monkey and monkeys have tails. Everyone remembers George with a tail yet all the old books no longer show him with one.

There is no "they" here. I am not a disinformant. And I don't think you really "get" it. The Earth cannot be a convex globe; it is pretty important.

You obviously didn't read my post but if you do anything at least check this thread of mine to illicit a smidgen of doubt somewhere in your subconscious mind about the globe: http://www.wildheretic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=255&hilit=horizon+line+drop

If it can be used to divide, it will be used long after it goes out of style. e.g. religion.

Flat earth isn't dividing anybody. Flat earth is r/conspiracy's developmentally disabled mascot. Next disinfo campaign please. We're ready for it.

Flat earth theory has been around for a long time, and a lot of truthers argue about it, thus causing a division. Unfortunately we can't control how we're going to be lied to.

You can't control how you are being lied to, but you can step up and speak the Truth as I have using logic and supporting evidence to make your case.

I'll take your word for it.

Well, I guess if you fall for one trap you will fall for all of em'.

Makes sense. If our known reality is the soft gooey center, what's on the outside of the shell?

I'll just go with seriously answering your question. If the Earth is a Cell, then we have no information on what exists outside our Cell.

There may be other cells for all we know.

And as OP pointed out, perhaps there might be a way out that some privileged individuals know about.

deep dark chocolate

I've been looking into flat earth for a couple months now and was on the side of believing it but something just didn't smell right. They're are so many flat earth videos out now it's crazy. They're almost pushing it on us. Like Neil Tyson and Bill nyes explanation for why it isn't flat is absolutely retarded. Almost like they want us to believe it. I just gave concave another try today and I'm really starting to lean towards it. I searched this sub to see if there was any posts and here yours is three days ago with absolutely no up votes hmmm. Thank you for posting this I applaud your courage to do so even tho this entire sub will downvote and claim disinfo then go and push aliens and space on us lol. Keep on preaching and let's try and get outta here :)

Hey rock on brother you made my day :) I received a ton of downvotes lol... like instantly. Almost like there was a bot somewhere waiting for the term "concave earth".

Come check out the Wildheretic forum we are all pretty much concavers there www.wildheretic.com

Yea this sub has problems entertaining ideas that go against their beliefs unfortunately. I've been lurking on the forum the past two days but I'll definitely be joining in on the discussions soon lol

the post is worth reading and this needs to go viral.

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Fellow redditors, let me remind you of the following quote by Aristotle:

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"

Does this laughing buffoon seem educated to you?

Awww, that really, really hurt my feelings.

Still, HAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAA!

It wasn't directed towards you, I just wanted people who read your lame post to read mine. Sorry, but your downvote won't hide it. Move along.

You're concerned with down downvotes, and that people learn all about "concave earth"? Your lame attempt at an insult makes my whole day! Thankies!

Bwahahahahahaaaaa!

Apparently, you are the one concerned with downvotes, not me. And I am near sure you downvoted all my posts in this thread, you hypocritical filth.

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Why are you so concerned that people learn all about what shape earth we reside on? How would it change our lives, even if your absurd "belief" (wink wink) were true? I personally believe we live on cock shaped earth, otherwise known as Penistopia. Want to hear all about my penis theory?

I've been concerned since I seriously evaluated the space evidence promoted by NASA and ESA.

I'm being serious when I say that something is really off. I was able to overcome the social pressure to just accept everything fed to me as truth, and took the time to evaluate Copernican Astronomy, Flat Earth, Concave Earth, refresh on my physics, optics, relaitivity, thermodynamics, other general engineering coursework, and more. Flat Earth is disinfo. That doesn't mean we should immediately rule out Concave Earth. We have to ask ourselves why is there such a (recent) focus ... resurgence on Flat Earth ridiculousness. This, in combination with the fake Moon Landing, fake Mars Rovers and fishy ISS footage, was an impetus enough for me to actually learn and think, rather than just take a backseat like you are choosing to do. It's your choice, brother.

Alrighty then, good day. I suppose you won't entertain my penis theory. You are very closed minded.

Why are you so concerned that people learn all about what shape earth we reside on? How would it change our lives

If you bothered to even glance at what I wrote, I anticipated this question and listed off some reasons why it is important:

-We are literally living in a reality bubble, an enclosed prison/ factory farm where our souls are recycled endlessly through reincarnation and used as a food source. -Aliens and UFOs are a massive psy-op to keep us afraid or full of false hope (The Arcturians and Pleiadians are coming to save you!! The Galactic frequencies will usher in the dawn of a New Age...blah blah blah) and may be used as a false flag invasion to usher in the NW"O". -Real estate is extremely limited and implementation of a one world government and takeover of land is a lot worse than you've imagined. -The role you play, your life, your decisions are far more impactful on reality and the fate of the world than you've imagined. -The Bible may contain elements of truth and hint at the possibility of creationism and that the world is run by Lucifer. -The Sun is inside the Earth and nearby and could very well stop in place, scorching the land below. -The Ether exists. -The North and South poles might actually be ways OUT of here.

Whatever you say, sparky!

Certainly more so than OP.

Well let me ask you then: Are you averse to entertaining the thought that the Copernican model is wrong?

Of course not. The Copernican model has predicted reality with reasonable accuracy over the past several centuries. But, given that we are still trying to figure out what gravity is or what 'stuff' 95% of the universe is made of (among other things), I am fairly confident one day the Copernican model will be retired or at least fundamentally changed.

But, given that we are still trying to figure out what gravity is or what 'stuff' 95% of the universe is made of

If you bothered to read through my post you would have found my proposition for a functional theory of gravity that works better than the Coperican model

Don't flatter yourself.

Don't flat-earth yourself.

I'm a faceted torus kind of guy.

Explain how the torus theory works

If you have to ask the question you probably wouldn't understand the answer. But I'll tell you tomorrow.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"

Entertain the thought of me taking a dump on your head.

Flat earth is a social experiment. The very idea of a flat earth is so fucking absurd you would literally have to have ZERO education to actually believe it or you would have the IQ of a potato.

If someone or something can make you believe up is down, black is white, the sun really rises in the west, the earth orbits around the moon as the sun orbits around the solar system and everything else that make no sense, then by all means be one of those people whose mind is so easily fucked with you will do ANYTHING if fed the right line of bullshit.

You can't read either? This thread is about Concave Earth. Have you spent more than a second thinking about the difference? Have you read the OP's post?

Clearly no, or you wouldn't be writing what you just did, which I mostly agree with.

I wouldn't waste my time....

Wrong; Flat Earth is a psy-op to predispose those of a lower IQ level such as yourself to a bias against Concave Earth. This, in fact, was the entire point of my thread. Hell, it is right in the title.

Clever use of the word "potato" by the way. As if the 10,000,000 times it has been used to describe pixel count on a video wasn't cringe worthy enough.

♫♫ You say po-TAY-toe and I say po-tah-toe and your still a fucking moron in the moooorning!♫♫

Go tell your tooth fairy fantasy to r/space...go on, I dare ya! BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAA!!!!

My still a fucking moron? Or your still a fucking moron? Whose is it? Rotfl, stupid jackass. What do they pay you in, foodstamps? I've seen flat earthers more intelligent than you, pathetic shill.

Beautiful. I made this same realization recently, although I didn't provide evidence like you did.

I am convinced that you are correct and I am glad to see someone else reach the same conclusion.

I am interested to hear some of your sources, I am happy to share some of mine. This topic is not easy to research outside of Steven's work.

Hey Thanks, yes I agree it is difficult to find research outside of Steven's work. I have searched around for alternative sources and it seems the Polish people are really aware of the theory. All their thoughts are in Polish though so Aside from google translate I haven't gotten much out of it.

I like some of Wild Heretic's work and frequently post there on his website. I think more people need to produce content for this gem of a theory

That's interesting about the Polish. I will have to dig into that. I like Wild Heretic as well.

I recently came across Cyrus Teed's work. I think Steven works off of Teed. Teed was a scientist, and one day he electrocuted himself and has a vision of a deity who showed him the shape of the world which he wrote a book about called The Cellular Cosmogony. The deity also told him that he was the Messiah.

He developed a bit of a following which was then called The Koreshan Unity. He also created the Koreshan Premise

A straight line extended at right angles from a perpendicular post will meet the surface of the earth at a distance proportionate to the height of the perpendicular.

If you haven't already run into this information I'm sure you will find it fascinating. He came up with his model in the late 1800's and it perfectly mimics the concave model today.

It is such a pleasure to run into someone else that has already conceptualized the concave model. People won't even begin to consider this theory (evident by this thread) let alone take the time to really learn it and visualize it.

So I have a thought. It is mostly agreed that the "glass ceiling" exists at 100km. Do you find it odd that it is such a round number? It makes me think that perhaps the distance to the ceiling was used to determine the distance of 1m.

The generally accepted story is that the meter was derived from 1/10,000,000 of the distance from the equator to the North Pole, but I find this hard to believe just because of how difficult it would have been for someone to determine that distance in 1793. (Granted it would be just as difficult to measure the distance to the glass in 1793...)

I am still looking into the origin of the meter, but do you have any thoughts about this?

A straight line extended at right angles from a perpendicular post will meet the surface of the earth at a distance proportionate to the height of the perpendicular.

So, if a straight line is extended at a right angle from the top of the Empire State Building, directed due east, at what distance does it meet the surface of the earth?

I think you'll find that it doesn't, in fact, meet the surface of the earth at any distance.

It would be approximately the same regardless of direction. The concave Earth is the same size as the one you understand except in the opposite direction.

In my calculation it would be about 46.69 miles. You can do it yourself if you want using this calculator. Just plug the height of the structure into h0 and then leave d0 blank and d1 will give you the horizontal distance.

That being said, the Empire State building would be an absurd place to do this experiment. You want to use what is called a rectilineator which calls for a series of straight planks to be extended from an origin plank that is aligned with gravity. If you used the Empire State building, you would have to build support beams thew same height as the Empire State Building (1,454 ft tall at the tip) to support this straight line of beams. It would take a long time and it would be hard to trust the accuracy of the results.

You would be much better served to do the experiment near sea level. This experiment has been conducted before. If you are truly interested you should investigate the results.

What is on the outside of the Earth then? What are we floating in? Nothingness?

Outside of the Earth is Reality, beyond our limited comprehension. It's like asking what is outside of a cave for someone who was born and grew up in one all their lives.

Okay Okay, so the earth is "floating" in reality?

Time and space are constructs that only exist within here so not quite floating. More like "separated" or cut off from Reality

I prefer the hollow earth theory, personally.

I think a faceted torus covers just about every option.

oh wow, parroting the "Lord" Steven "Christ bullshit. aka a known 80s acid head with glaringly obvious mental health issues. Yikes.

If you read the whole post, you wouldn't be writing this.

Redditors, you really need to learn to read and not skim posts.

OP is clearly of the opinion that 'Lord Steven Christ' is a tool that propagates exactly the type of mentality of u/notevenclose79: namely discredit by association

Uhh too bad Steven is the main proponent of this bullshit.

Which OP clearly acknowledges in the OP. Still haven't bothered to read?

Indeed, it is "too bad" but you are still not getting it. I'll make it easier for you:

[Think] about this for a moment. Flat Earth is not the only thing being associated with Concave Earth. What other theory in existence has as its top content producer a guy who calls himself Jesus Christ and tells everyone to get his Mark of the Beast tattoo? You cannot do a search on Concave Earth and NOT have this guy show up on the front page. Don't believe for an instant that this is by coincidence.

There is a psy-op against the Concave Earth. And I will tell you why: because the implications of knowing the truth about the Earth and this Reality are enormous:

Yeah, I'm not reading all that. I've heard of the concave earth theory but i haven't seen literally anything to support it. Can you provide some good videos or something? The flat earth is (so far) a much more sound theory as it can easily be scientifically tested. (Although i don't believe in the concave earth at lease you're open minded and don't stick to a ball flying wildly through nothing!)

http://www.wildheretic.com/bendy-light-the-evidence/

Here is a video showing that a Concave model with bending light is the only model that can account for the angles of the Sun we see at different parts of the Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9puRZH0i6Sc

Yeah, I'm not reading all that.

"The flat earth is (so far) a much more sound theory as it can easily be scientifically tested."

Sad, because he took the time to point out the flaws in Flat Earth, alongside a wealth of information in support of Concave Earth; everything you asked for is within the OP's post.

Why can't you spend 5 minutes reading this post? How much time have you devoted to learning about Flat Earth theory? I'd suggest you not remain willfully ignorant to information, especially if you are really considering Flat Earth as truth, as I do take that as a sign of openness which I appreciate. You might find something that piques your interest.


P.S You should read this to get some perspective: "Always bet on text" - http://graydon.livejournal.com/196162.html

It'll take you two minutes, maybe five if you aren't use to reading.