We are paying taxes to a government that defrauds us

129  2016-07-06 by LightBringerFlex

Why? Why do we do it?

48 comments

We are almost entirely controlled. Jimmy Carter said we are no longer a functioning democracy. I think that's why he's hated and maligned by the elite. Speaking the truth is dangerous now.

Few people realize that bankers run this whole planet, and we are simply worker bees that do their bidding. Almost everything we do revolves around the need for obtaining money, and they control almost every aspect of that. If a cashless society rolls out, we are really fucked.

Ya, which means we have a lot of work to do as a people to fix this.

It will never happen in our lifetime

How do you know?

Needs centralized money. One single currency for whole planet. WW3 needs to happen first and needs an Unipolar world as result.

Why ww3 when there are easier ways to achieve that.

Russia china and in secret timidly india oppose the unipolar model proposed by PNAC, this can lead to only one thing ww3 with dismantling of russia and china as objective, the first steps have allready been placed towards achieving that goal.

Putin made it clear he will use nukes if Russia encounters itself in an existential threat. Key word is existential threat.

https://youtu.be/QeLu_yyz3tc Watch this , you will have a better understanding of what i'm talking about.

Not with that attitude.

There's a few bitcoin shills that would disagree.

maybe you should get into banking

"It's a big club, and you and I ain't in it." -Carlin

It's the same club they use to beat you over the head when they tell you what to believe.

there's no other option left but to purge these fascists and their families

There's no other actions going on other than people stating this a million times. Why don't we ALL start a rally! Lets go our there and make a difference. I'm unemployed at the moment so hoora!

That's the spirit!

I ask my parents the same question. "We're gonna continue to pay our taxes, and when the IRS comes after you...."

Fear. Fear and hope are the two biggest emotions that are used to control people.

People fear the IRS. We have clients that the IRS is after for various reasons and it's just awful! They will make your life hell! And that's putting it nicely, hell is more like a vacation destination when dealing with the IRS.

... well IRS agents also carry guns... but they want to take ours. LOL

Here's the problem with that reasoning. The IRS has no legal basis to come after you. So if they want to, they can.

Why there isn't a very loud, very serious, bipartisan movement about transparency and how and where OUR money is spent, is beyond me.

Every time I see how "the USA spends" x amount of money or "the USA gives Israel" x amount of money or "The Pentagon spends" x amount of money or how "The Federal Reserve lost" x amount of money, I think THAT'S OUR, THE TAXPAYERS MONEY, why the fuck aren't people DEMANDING they stop wasting our fucking money? Vice covered a 500 million dollar power plant that was built in Afghanistan that was never used because the fuel was too expensive. Guess who actually paid for that? Or who is paying for the massive debt our country is in to .... bankers and the war machine, and.... who else?

Bipartisan. We cant even agree which criminal for president is worse.

Imagine is the 500 million was used to stimulate the economy.

Sending money to Isreal to keep the middle east in check has been much more cost effective than sending our armies to the region.

If we can only figure out how to "survive" in American Society on less than 10k per year. In 2015 for example, if you are under age 65 and single, you must file a tax return if you earn $10,300 or more, which is the sum of the 2015 standard deduction for a single taxpayer plus one exemption.

I read a book about a woman who lived in a a 12X12 cabin in NC (I think the book was called 12X12) and she purposely made less than 10K a year, in order to avoid having her money taxed and used for war. She was mostly self-sufficient with lots of edible plants and fresh water on her property. That's not possible for most people, but it's possible.

That's amazing thanks for sharing.

Because they won.

Uhm, i have to agree with fear being the driving factor. And the fact that most people are convinced that they get something in return, like roads and healthcare, police and firemen. Which is of course a bs argument.

Because if you don't they throw you in a cage.

What are we here, barbarians?

We're not but that's what we're against.

What do you suggest we do to get out of it?

Stop buying from corporations. Stop watching msm Keep everyone aware of what's happening Protest Sue them Get creative with ideas

The only real opposition can come from within the US military.

But then they don't get paid.

speak for yourself

Why are points hidden on the messages here? Can somebody explain, I'm kind of new to reddit.

They're hidden for an hour to prevent bandwagoning voting.

...or so Reddit can manipulate what comments they want at the top in major subs.

Either one, take your pick.

Comment scores are hidden for the first hour.

The time depends on the subreddit

They know that and realize the people are the pawns.

It's literally not optional for most of us. They take it directly from your paycheck before it hits your bank.

We don't have a choice, they will take it directly out of our wages if we don't.

In what way are you defrauded? For the most part I like what happens with the tax money.

You like waging endless wars of aggression against nations on the other side of the planet?

You like our intelligence agencies to create/support extremist rebels in various countries across the globe, who after gaining power end up causing way more suffering and destruction than the previous government/dictator?

You like it when they use your money to blast your fellow citizens with propaganda through virtually all sources of widespread media?

You like knowing that every child is forced to go through a public school system designed to stifle original thought and force conformity to what is currently deemed as culturally appropriate?

If you like all that, then sure, you're not being defrauded. It makes you an asshole, but if you can live with yourself knowing that you are part of the problem, then I guess that's all that matters eh?

What other options do most people have? Refuse to pay you go to prison. Living off the grid can work but how many people can hack it as a bushman? Moving to another country is another option, but that cuts you off from all friends and family and puts you in a foreign environment where you are probably unemployed and know nobody.

For most US citizens there is no choice, submit to the system or live life on the fringes of society as a bum.

I pay all my taxes because I don't want to go to jail.

It's state-approved extortion. Pay up or lose everything.

But, it's OK because the freedom loving, democracy spreading U.S. government is always doing what's best not only for its citizens but the entire world, right? Right...? <---- What most retards believe.

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You got a lot of reading and research to do my friend. I can tell this just by the questions you're asking.

How do you think interest is paid to the federal reserve?

Do you believe all federal spending falls within the confines of the Constitution?

People fear the IRS. We have clients that the IRS is after for various reasons and it's just awful! They will make your life hell! And that's putting it nicely, hell is more like a vacation destination when dealing with the IRS.

Here's the problem with that reasoning. The IRS has no legal basis to come after you. So if they want to, they can.