Dallas Shootings Thread

307  2016-07-08 by mr_dong

Please keep it civil and post all related content regarding the sniper shootings, including videos, articles and theories here.

Condolences to the victims families.

1354 comments

guy on cnn said "how can police be expected to protect themselves w just a hand gun?" prepping for ultra militarized police.

Police already have assault rifles.

Yep, and now they have killer robots.

Honestly I can understand why they used the bot.

Don't get me wrong, it's still pretty fucked up.

I don't.

They had him surrounded, he was probably low on ammo, they could've sent a bot with a Taser, or thrown flashbangs, or tear gas. But they sent in a bomb? There wasn't even an interrogation.

It just seems strange.

They had no idea how much ammo he had, if he actually had explosives set up, if he had an escape route.

They had one shot, and they took it. Was it ethical? Probably not.

An escape route? What is he, James bond? It was a parking garage that was surrounded, with multiple helicopters.

I agree with your point about explosives.

As for ammo, my reasoning for thinking he was low was because (I'm definitely not an expert) let's say he had extended magazines for an ar-15 with .223. That's 30 rounds in a 16" magazines. He shot a lot of bullets. And he didn't have a backpack, so that was my thinking.

All I'm saying is you would think they would want to interrogate him at least instead of saying, "Oh yeah we talked to him, got all we wanted, let's send in a bomb". They wanted him dead. It seems suspicious (this is r/conspiracy, after all).

Fair enough. In regards to the taser idea, there's no way a taser would have made it through his clothing + vest.

I'm wondering why they couldn't have used a non-lethal gas or something instead? It does seem completely unorthodox to simply blow up a suspect with a bomb in such a high-profile case.

Non deadly force leaves too much open. Who wants a long trial? Death=justice. 'MURIKA! no loose ends either.

He had a plate carrier on and it's confirmed he had a Saiga rifle not an ar-15. But on the plate carrier if he had a triple mag holder with 2 mags in each.

That's 7 magazines alone. )6+1 in gun)

throw 2 more in your pockets that's 9x30 rounds.

Cargo pants? 2 more!

11x30 rounds is a lot of bang.

Only reason I said armalite was because that's what was reported. Just wanted to clarify.

But wow. Thanks for replying, def proved me wrong on that account.

No worries dude.

It's not hard to carry a lot of ammo, especially if you plan on dying. Yeah it's heavy but he's not rucking through the jungle and it's nice and easy to spread the weight around your body.

It was reported today that he had large quantity of ammo strapped to his body. He was ready to keep on fighting for sure.

Who would go on a well thought out politically motivated killing spree with only 1 magazine with 30 bullets? That makes no sense especially since this guy was a gun enthusiast. Even if he did only have 30 bullets it would have been idiotic to the cops to assume he didn't have more.

Didn't say it was only one magazine. I was saying with 16inch long 2inch wide magazines, how many do you think he would be able to fit on him?

edit: my answer was not a lot, but someone here definitely changed my opinion when he gave me his (seemingly) more expert opinion.

He had plenty of ammo apparently; he was prepared for a prolonged fight. I don't think tasers, flashbangs, or tear gas would have cut it because he was still armed with a semiautomatic weapon and was clearly skilled in using it. They might have been able wait him out and allow sleep and/or hunger to get the better of him.

I think the reason they opted for the robot was that he claimed that he had planted bombs in the vicinity and he was therefore still an active threat requiring immediate neutralisation.

I suppose time will tell...

water from hoses would have put a serious damper on his ability to fight.

soaked and blinded by water, no vision no balance no chance of reloading no aiming.

cops could have soaked him for hours until he gave up.

IF it was desired to take him alive for interrogation and the legal process.

Okay, whose going to get that close to point a firehose at him which requires two people to man...

If a sniper couldn't get a shot without being in direct line of fire. Then a fire hose sure as shit ain't going to be any better.

Everything seems strange here because you think everything is a conspiracy.

They used a explosive phone apparently. Makes you wonder if the purpose was to give an excuse for a body that can't be identified (blown off face). You know like if Israel did the attack and shot a random black dude in that area to use the body as the patsy.Then the FBI's job is to find via their NSA built profiles a suitable patsy, whack the, then at a later point switch the bodies. In the good ol' days (port arthur) they seemed to set up the patsy before hand, but now they make no effort. Like the gay shooter at Orlando. Or the muslim guy and his tiny wife (mistaken for 3 caucasian shooters) at san bernadino. Lack of coordination suggests foreign intelligence doing it?

What the fuck are cops doing where they have possesion of a explosive phone? Is this standard issue now?

It's not hard to make one.

Explosive+wired up to cell phone, screw it back together and hand it over. It's not like this is something that takes extensive skill. The guy who manned the EOD bot is obviously EOD trained. It's not rocket science to recreate something you've taken apart before

I wonder who gave the order to make a bomb to take the shooter out? That's some discretion they used there isn't it?

I imagine it went something like this.

"He's holed up and says he has bombs planted around him"

Can we shoot him from a distance?

"Nowhere to take the shot from"

Can we rush in and take him out?

"Bombs"

Can we use the EOD bot to flashbang him and still rush in?

"deadmans switch is possible"

Uhhhhh what if we blow him up.

"Alright yeah sounds good"

Discretion yeah, but I wouldn't wanna charge into a minefield and I sure as shit wouldn't wanna order my buddies to do it

It just seems like an execution/instant justice to me.

Ehhhh, I can kind of see the argument but the other side of that is that it's not much different from him being shot dead by a sniper for holding a hostage. In this case he has bombs set up and the hostages are the police officers who are gonna have to go in to take him out.

The bombs take out waiting, you can't just let that kind of threat linger.

The only way he was coming out alive was with a lot more dead officers. So you either kill the "hostages" IE the cops going in. Or you kill civis with his bombs going off. Or you kill him with a "sniper"

Same idea, different players

I understand that point too. I think it's why I'm on the fence about whether they should have used the bomb or not. It's bad enough cops are shooting people and people are shooting cops. Now cops are making bombs, it just doesn't sit right with me.

I understand the worry about the cops making a bomb here, but this is pretty far from normal for everyone involved. It's not like your next traffic stop is gonna be done with a guy wearing a suicide vest instead of a kevlar vest

I was more thinking other departments using this as a precedent. It's looking like it's going to be a long summer.

I'm fine with the goto way to handle an armed with a combat rifle and explosives active shooter/barricaded suspect who refuses to surrender and has made a threat to detonate bombs being to kill him first by whatever means.

Yeah but will that be the party line next time they use one and it's not the same circumstances? The police just start sending bombs into houses with a nutcase with a hunting rifle because they feel they can now. That shit needs to be kept in check.

Nah won't happen like that.

If said guy with a hunting rifle has shot multiple cops and starts hucking pipe bombs out the window? Maybe.

It's a tool in a big big toolbox, but you don't pull out a jackhammer when a chisel will work

You make good points and if everything went down the way they said I can't really have a problem with it if it saved lives. I'm just pissed the dude was able to suicide by cop at the end. I would have liked to have him survive and face the music.

Meh. I'm fine with him getting his face blown the fuck off rather than sitting on death row like that fucking asshole Mumia abu jamal

No doubt. There would be some celebrity fucktard out of nowhere supporting him in 15 years when the memory of what he did fades.

That and having to listen to his shitty fanmail being sent back and forth

"Cops"

That trick won't work twice.

I bet it will

Why complicate things? It was probably the English paramilitary corporation that Orlando shooter worked for.

Pretty simple. Kill the guy. None of us get killed doing it.

Yeah pretty simple. Like where did the guy come from? Where did he go? Where did he... dammit

Never thought of it that way.

I guess now those brave boys in blue can just send in "drones". So brave. So BRAVE of them.

The dude said he had bombs. The police improvised a way to take the dude bro out after it was clear he wasn't going to give himself up. I'd give them points for cleverness if anything.

Do you have audio of him claiming that?

If they can send in a bot with a bomb, couldn't they have sent in a bot with a tranquilizer/gas or something to that effect?

Of course. We can send bots to Pluto and beyond.

With enough capital, humans have the ability to send a bot to anywhere on Earth and make it do whatever they want.

Okay, then why not do what I suggested? They just blew him up. Wouldn't they want him for interrogation purposes?

He was holed up. They have all kinds of interesting gasses. Could make him vomit, or tear gas, or whatever. They could have gotten him out or disabled him. They wanted him dead.

You're 100% right. This attack came at a very convenient time for the establishment.

Hillary wants us to think about race relations and how scary guns are!

I would guess because they don't want to hear anything that he has to say. Sad

Exactly. The way that they have just been constantly using fear-mongering propaganda throughout the last year or so (It's been going on for decades, but it's been going up drastically this year), and how people are just continually buying the same stuff, from the same style attacks, over and over again, is genuinely making me furious.

It's disgusting how these planned murders keep on being used to their maximum political extent to constantly barrage not only people's rights,, but their entire rational reasoning as well.

We are constantly conditioned into believing that these events are random. We are basically told to ignore all patterns, to ignore convenient coincidences, lest we be called a crazy "conspiracy theorist."

Will people ever realize how ridiculous this is, that we are basically being told that people with lots of money and agendas can never lie? That politicians (except the ones on the other divide and conquer side) are working for us, even though they do the exact opposite every time?

It's honestly painful, and outright scary, that all of these people just keep buying this stuff up.

the ones that dont generally dont say they dont buy it...easy way to get on a list.

pretend to be a sheep until you can make a move.

I'm on so many lists, but since I'm on the "too poor too worry about" list, I figure I'm good until they need to purge thinking people.

Maybe the pattern is that they all happen to live in a country where it is easy to purchase a semi-automatic weapon and be trained in its effective use.

I would ask that guy the same question but replace 'cops' with 'civilians'.

Citizens. Police are not military (even though they think they are). Therefore, it's incorrect to directly compare police to "civilians". Police /citizens. Military/civilians.

Right. How are civilians expected to defend themselves with just a hand gun? It changes nothing that I said or meant to say.

Our police positions have been being filled with combat veterans for 15 years. What should we expect

this.

That's what special weapons and tactics are for. Police are for your average citizen/criminal and initial response. SWAT are for the guys who are asking for it. Hell, they blew the guy up with a bomb that was practically on an RC car.

They already used armed drones so I'm not sure what's left.

Police were pointing assault rifles at protesters in Minnesota 2 days ago.

How soon /r/conspiracy forgets:

2014: FBI keeps records sealed on sniper plot to kill Occupy Wall Street organizers

And if you think those snipers weren't a bootleg FBI operation with vintage COINTELPRO origins ...

Agent provocateurs, no doubt.

How does that connect to killing cops in Dallas now?

He thinks the FBI killed the police in order to gain sympathy for police. People here think it's a false-flag operation on BLM.

I'm not quick to buy into this sort of thing, but I don't want to be a sheep if there's actually something weird going on. You seem very reasonable; what's your opinion on the archived Craigslist ad for crisis actors in Dallas from 19 days ago? Do you have any idea what other use someone could have for them?

On my phone, do you have a link?

Edit: Found it. At first I'll admit it raised my eyebrows, despite being written so poorly. Not that I believe in a conspiracy, but it's certainly a little confusing.

For one thing, logistically this would be a nightmare. Hiring confidential actors off of craigslist? In the same section riddled with ads for prostitutes and porn stars? I've done castings for food commercials on craiglist, in Dallas, paying money (not a free lunch like this ad), and it's a cattle call of idiots. The organization and high level of perfect-planning required for amassing a group of proficient confidants off of craigslist and further training/executing whatever plan is in the works makes the idea of "actors" extremely unbelievable to me. If you had the time and money for that, just hire real actors. Random streetwalkers would also be the most likely to spill stories about the whole operation, and you can't just make a dozen people with families disappear at once either. Combined with how a person on June 19th wouldn't have known that two black guys in different states would be killed by police (july 5th and 6th) and a protest would even be lodged in Dallas. Combined with how no one would even need actors for this operation, they just need a gunman. Or gunmen, but you wouldn't hire a clandestine group of highly training snipers off of craigslist. Also, and most damning against this, is how apparently there are multiple ads like this in a variety of cities.

I think it's a prank.

Nice analysis. Buying into this just requires that you take so many logical leaps, when a single nutty shooter is so plausible. And the idea that Hillary's best coverup for not being indicted is staging a terror attack? Give me a break.

What the fuck??

A suspect who died after a standoff with Dallas police said he wanted to kill white people -- especially white officers -- and that he was upset about "the recent police shootings," Dallas Police Chief David Brown told reporters Friday.

The suspect was killed by a bomb that authorities detonated, Brown said.

"We saw no other option but to use our bomb robot and place a device on its extension for it to detonate where the suspect was," Brown said.

Five police officers were killed and seven others were injured in the ambush that began Thursday night, officials said. It was the deadliest single incident for U.S. law enforcement since September 11, 2001.

Two civilians also were injured in the shootings, the office of Dallas' mayor has said.

Most of the injured Dallas police officers have been released from the hospital, Brown told reporters.

"This must stop -- this divisiveness between our police and our citizens," Brown said. "We don't feel much support most days. Let's not make today most days. Please, we need your support to be able to protect you from men like these, who carried out this tragic, tragic event."

I can't help but think this is an appeal for armed drones for police forces.

"I don't fuckin' care. Throw C4 on the robot... we'll blast his ass. That semi auto SKS puts our 85 men with automatics on an equal playing field. Can't risk it.."

Losers. Since when is this behavior EVER acceptable from cops?

When five of them have been murdered and they want it to end. But call them losers, sure.

When cops are murdered your constitutional rights are revoked. Pretty cool.

Agreed, they should have tried to tickle him to get him to stop firing guns at people.

So you're fine with cops having the authority to blow up suspects who they claim are too dangerous to apprehend? That's a good precedent to set?

You're fine with police having the power to decide who does and doesn't have sixth amendment rights?

Yes, I'm fine with police killing someone who is shooting at them.

I thought that part was pretty fucking weird too. I can't imagine they just remotely piloting this dinky little robot with a bomb on a stick towards the guy? And the guy presumably just stands there and takes it?

The guy requested a cell phone during negotiations with the police. They agreed to give him a cell phone by robot. Robot drove up with the cell phone and then exploded.

They probably recorded video from the bomb robot. Just wait a year, usually most mass shootings have a report by then.

I remember being surveilled from ten stories up. And the roudy agent provocateurs were hardly convincing. It was all quite blatant.

Just clicked on this link and saw the second result for Houston!.... I... I live in Houston :/

Link not working? What is this 2014 thing?

link not working?

Google "Occupy Wall Street FBI sniper"

This was a planned and carefully executed event. The Dallas shooting was orchestrated in the wake of the huge civil unrest after the string of murders by police that have taken place recently. The event was designed to foster a sense of sympathy and affection for the police at a time when so many American's are ready to rise up against them.

Make no mistake, this was planned.

I think that's a good observation. As a planned event it would garner sympathy for the police while simultaneously putting a cap on the Black Lives Matter movement. Now people will connect Black Lives Matter protests with black people murdering police instead of police murdering black people. The ramifications of the scenario seem a little too "neat" for it to have been simply a random event.

It's quite possible that the shooters were groomed by CIA and let loose much like we hear about FBI grooming "terrorists" in their sting operations. Only difference is the CIA takes it all the way instead of stopping them.

I have this working theory that civil unrest is reaching unprecedented levels and thus "next level" theatrics and engineered disasters are beginning to be deployed.

Also let's not forget that just as the public opinion was swaying toward the new narrative that Sterling got himself killed by "reaching" for a weapon (that came out of the pocket we see a cop put his hand into) another unjustified shooting happened with Castile and they had some hard times lying to fit a narrative there. It took a couple days for them to suggest that his parking tickets and traffic stops warranted the unprovoked shooting of him.

So right on the dawn of a resurgence of BLM and support against authoritarian methodology a bunch of cops get shot to death during a peaceful BLM protest. Not just shot to death but by a magical sniper who left his sniper roost, snuck out the back, killed another cop, and then ducked into an empty parking structure which lucky enough had no people in it and was subsequently bombed by the police so there's a 0% chance we ever see a picture of the corpse that is in any way identifiable. The other suspect killed himself and the other "suspects" actually weren't suspects apparently. Nothing strange going on here!

It's the Shock Doctrine applied domestically, with the violence turned up.

Delta

What's delta?

Greek.

Nice username.

You sir, clearly know how to dong. Well met!

Thanks for making the rest of us feel left out.

There's no way it can be in response to murders from a couple days ago if it is so well - planned.

The tension has been present and building for a long time, just needed to wait for a time to put it in action.

So weird that it took place less than a mile from Dealey Plaza.

I like to think thats the reasoning. But i think it is a lot worse. I think America is on a set, planned road to Martial Law and being disarmed in preparation for Agenda 21.

This was obviously a march organized by BLM that this shooting occurred at. BLM is funded by George Soros. George Soros is friends with Hillary, and has donated to both her campaign and her foundation. Remember the posts here with apparently leaked texts from BLM organizers saying there will be a summer of chaos? Also, I'm certain I saw posts recently here predicting Dallas as a future target. I honestly wrote those off as too tinfoily, but I stand corrected. Sources at the bottom.

Edit: It has come to my attention that it is incredibly easy to fake DM's, so take the whole "Summer of Chaos" thing with a grain of salt. I am simply leaving it because it is suspicious.

There goes Hillary correcting the record again. Filthy pig.

Why am I not surprised utter bullshit is at the top of this post, while mine is pretty far down?

This is bullshit and it's so obvious it hurts.

Soros donates $13 million, possibly more, this source is from March:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-15/soros-alarmed-by-trump-pours-money-into-2016-race

Soros is a top donor to the Clinton Foundation, although I'm tired and can't find the exact number. Source:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98467642

Soros spends $33 million backing "various groups" protesting Ferguson. Where do you think that money went?

Source:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html

Hacked BLM leaders DM's on Twitter discussing the "Summer of Chaos". Source:

https://www.intellihub.com/operation-summer-of-chaos-obama-admin-black-lives-matter-plan/

I'm sure coincidentally the post predicting a Dallas shooting was deleted. Here is an archived link to why they thought that though, a craiglist ad looking for "crisis actors" with, well. Fucked up words man. I thought this was tinfoily when I saw it two or three weeks ago here, but shit. Trust me on this, I promise you it's not fake and I saw this before:

https://archive.is/279jn

Need I go further? This shit is fucking bonkers.

as soon as i saw the craigslist repost i remembered seeing it posted like the day after the pulse attacks saying to watch out. i think it might have been posted in cleveland or some c named city. im still at a loss as to where or when it was posted

There was one for Vermont or New Hampshire I believe.

Burlington day of the Convention

Wait, it's the DAY of the Convention? Are you certain?

What the fuck? What is Hillary planning for Bernie/his supporters.

Yup. VT here. None of us know what to think but a lot of my friends are talking about applying for it. You need "military clearance" to get the job.

Don't become a prop.

Yeah I recall one for Vermont, in whatever town Bernie Sanders is from.

I saw that one for sure!

I've seen it as well.

You think they'll assassinate Sanders?

This has been my fear for ages. DNC convention seems far too convenient. I really hope it doesnt happen. It is the kind of thing that is GUARANTEED to incite civil war. If someone kills this man then Black Lives Matter gets blamed.....Ugh i dont want to think about it. Agenda 21 keeps seeming more and more real.

edit: i do think something horrible will happen though. Way i see it, our news outlets report the news they report for a reason. They have been pushing for a huge rally at the DNC. Well maybe not "pushing" but they are actually talking about it. This tells me they want people to know about it and they want people to go. That being said..."They" are known to do some fucked up shit.

There's no reason to.

New Hampshire

Well I'm Cleveland, and we have the RNC coming up... Think I'll be staying home that day.

You should buy food. You might be staying home that month instead...

I recall Dallas, but my memory is not infallible. You could very well be right, but coincidentally that post is nowhere to be found.

I can't find it either.

Just add it to the list of coincidences.

Like I stated, I try to be deliberate in using only facts, but that, and the leaked DM's are just too coincidental.

the text of that craiglist ad makes it seem fake:

Needing reliable actors. MUST stay in character, must be ok with selling soul to some alphabet agency.

Wanna help give hope and change to amerikkka? and you can even get a free lunch!

George Soros also owns a large amount of stock in ammunition companies. These shootings only draw people to buy more and more ammo making Soros lucrative amounts of money

Actually, to be honest I just searched and everything I found says he sold off his stock in Olin Corp and Vista Outdoors back in February and March.

Sources:

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/05/16/soros0516/

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/02/16/soros-exits-stakes-in-energy-companies-takes-pfizer-position/

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Ah good, criticize the part that I said I wasn't sure on. Care to provide me links proving they were false? So far nobody has been able to, they just keep claiming it's wrong. I'll gladly delete that part if you can gimme a link. Come on, I gave you multiple links, you can't give me one?

Not to mention, the utter bullshit that is above me. Is the numerology crap and random dumb shit like that more credible than my post? If so get your head checked out.

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Sorry, I've just had other people on other threads do that and basically write off my entire comment based on that one thing. Didn't mean to come off so defensive.

I mean, I'm not totally sure what you're saying with the manipulating browser text thing. I mean, they could just as easily be photoshopped, but it's just odd to me that this stuff is happening. I know it's fairly tinfoil hat like, but hey, this is /r/conspiracy.

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Ah wow that is crazy! Can't believe anything you read, damn. Well thank you for the knowledge on that, I will edit my comment. Idk if I really want to remove that part completely, but I will put plenty of skepticism.

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Damn. That is definitely something that I feel like more people should be aware of. I don't even know what to say about it honestly.

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Dude, could I borrow like a couple thousand? I'd be set then, I promise it's for a good cause.

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Yeah that is true. I saw a Simpsons episode where Burns was buying all the media outlets, and Lisa was running the only non Burns paper, and it was a war between them. It essentially ended with everyone in town having their own paper, and them making the point that when everyone has a voice, nobody has a voice.

Add that to what you're talking about, with no way to know what is really credible, and it's hard to know what to believe nowadays.

I will definitely be sharing the info you gave me though, that's nuts.

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I hear you man I haven't had exactly that, but on previous accounts I've had, I've gotten messages from people claiming to be in the NSA and things like that. I wouldn't be surprised if they were aware of who I am, considering my online presences. Not something I'm a huge fan of but hey, I'd rather speak out than be another silent fool.

I do appreciate your input and always remember, you may think you only reach a few people with what you share, but it's easy to forget the impact you can make when those people share what you told them, and then those people share, and then those people share...etc. Whether it's info like what you gave me, or just an idea, or an opinion, it's not as hard as we all think to make an impact. That's why I try not to hold back when posting online.

I sure wish I knew what the other person had written before deleting the comments. Sounds like it was very interesting.

It was essentially explaining how easy it is to fake literally anything (like those twitter DM's) with Google chrome extensions. I wish I could recall the name of the tool, but the conversation was before my coffee lol.

They literally showed me screen shots of what was apparently messages I sent them, which I never had sent. Basically, with the extension, you can select and edit any text on any website.

There was more of a conversation but that's basically it. Not sure why they deleted though..

Oh ok. Thanks for the reply.

Yep. Sorry I can't give you the name of the extension, but I'm sure it ain't too hard to find.

wow. how is this not top post

That's what I've been wondering since last night, considering pretty much as soon as I posted this, and ever since then I've had the most upvotes, and it's gilded.

It's like someone doesn't want it to be seen

💯👍🏻

the hacked blm dm is incredibly fake, just look at what was released. who even types on the phone like that? they sound like megatron or something.

source: http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/summer-of-chaos-2.jpg

Wow thank you for bringing that to my attention, I had no idea. Maybe I'll go edit my comment to reflect this new info/s

Yeah, read my comment. I know it's easy to fake, I left it because it is kinda happening.

I suppose no one's stopping you from using falsified information to back up your theory. But if we were being graded here, you'd get points docked. You are as only as credible as your sources.

Just as I can't prove they're real, you can't prove they're fake.

I said in my OP that the hacked DM's and the Craigslist post were not 100% fact. The rest is.

I can certainly try.

Snopes Article: http://www.snopes.com/deray-mckesson-and-the-summer-of-chaos/

The messages themselves also make no mention of the Dallas shootings. Besides the fact that they are 100% fabricated.

Ah the always reliable, not biased at all snopes. Look bro idgaf. I'm honestly entirely sick of this stupid conversation about who's more oppressed, whether all cops are good or bad, and whether or not white people have privileges. We know it's dumb to generalize so why do we do it?

Fuck that noise. Burn the government.

Easy to get away without reading my link when you say it's biased. Since when did the grandfather website of disneyland and chainmail rumors become the mouthpiece of any agenda?

Regardless of its percepted track record it still proves that the leaked messages don't corroborate with the real hack's story. Did you try reading it?

Grandfather website of Disneyland and chain emails

Mouthpiece of any agenda

Yeah, I read it. It's going off speculation and the word of the guy involved.

Everything you say makes perfect sense to me.

its not the first time Snipers are used on rallys to manipulate public opinion and turn around the outcome ...

Maidan - http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31359021

yemen - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/yemen/8774911/Yemeni-rooftop-snipers-fire-at-random-at-anti-regime-protesters.html

tunisia - http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/02/2011215123229922898.html

... and others

it makes absolut no sense when blacks would kill cops on black lives matter protests ... they could do it everywhere with same effect.

only one who would profit from this are people against the black live matter protests ... to push the whites against the blacks

It almost feels as if there's a middle-man or "player" trying to instigate hate & a race war between the cops and the populace (namely the Black population). Too well organized this time.

His name is Soros

I forgot about him actually. I had in my mind someone like a Rothschild family member.

I find it quite amazing that there is a whole movement of armed citizens who train to "fight the tyrants", but the second someone does it, people assume its the "tyrants" shooting themselves.

Is it really so impossible to believe a civilian would decide to go on a rampage and kill as many cops as he could? Especially in America?

It's well known that Soros funds BLM. That said I agree with you it is very possible that the shooter acted on his own convictions. Directly or indirectly though, I think the BLM movement contributed to his motivations.

And? I never said anything different. I was talking about the people claiming this was a government false flag, rather than a civilian acting against what he perceived to be a violently oppressive government.

I was pointing out that the people that claim to be preparing for a revolution are usually the first ones to deny any act is a revolutionary act.

Take that occupation in Oregon. No sooner had it happened than many "militia" leaders started claiming the leaders were FBI informants tricking people into a "false flag" attack. Same here.

For some reason, the people that claim to want a revolution never rally behind acts like this, but instead claim they are "false flags" carried out by government agents.

That too. It's not a single organization. Various people often have their hand in shit like this.

Nailed it!!

That middle man is mainstream media which causes a snowball effect when discussed on social media

The "lame-stream-media" has been bugging me for a long long time. I bet they're all given orders by the CIA or the Deep State to only talk about the things that's not relevant to the people (like talking about how big Kim's butt is, or what color some dress is). What happened to the Dan Rathers of the world? Where are they?

The military has the best reasons to pit cops against citizens.

Soros has made a lot of money when chaos is running in the streets before. When theirs "blood on the streets buy land."

Honduras also. It's a proven way to effect a coup. If the snipers were dressed as police it might work in the US too.

It's interesting you mention dressing like cops, in the 3rd angle of that pillar shooting there is a person dressed sort of like a cop walking middle of street right near shooter, without a care.

Full Speed https://vid.me/BlBz Slow Motion https://vid.me/hKDc

Make a new thread with these if you think its interesting, I noticed it and screen capped the twitter clip.

Within 2 days a huge swell of momentum was building for BLM and against police violence following the execution style killing in Louisiana and the apparent lynching in a public park in Atlanta. Division was eroding with the posibility of increased sympathy among previously divided groups.

The effect of these shooting is galvanized division and increased fear. If there is nefarious intentions at play, I believe their basic intentions are to weaken any populist movements that might be occurring. Division is the enemy of populism.

I would give you gold but I owe Uncle Sam several years of wages for my education.

So Pit the whites/cops against the blacks, so the peasants( oppressed blacks) do not rise up and cause anarchy?

A billionaire retired hedge fund manager, and a WW2 holocost surviver donates 13 million dollars to a former POTUS's charitable foundation. Everyone loses their shit at info wars and fox. A casino owner, Sheldon Anderson, gives 90 million to a 2012 POTUS Candidate, telling him, get rid of regulations he didn't like, like the ACA, and no one bats an eyelash. Koch brothers gave more than that, same election, same candidate. Since the late 90's owner Rupert Murdoch has used Fox news, the Wall Street Journal, & the New York Post as a free platform to get Republicans elected, and vilify Democrats 24/7. tl;dr help yourself you're a god, help People you're a POS.

I wish normal people could see it this way. Every top comment on other subreddits talk nothing but how BLM is useless, and how it is breeding hate, ect. Although, most of those comments could be voted up by a brigade too.

blacks

How about, I dunno, blame the one guy who did the killing instead of all the millions of people people who happen to share some loose phenotypic traits with him?

Or just listen to black lives matters protestors haranguing the families of the Orlando victims. BLM have their own agenda,they're own words and actions turn people against them, no conspiracy is needed.

It was not just snipers. There is footage of close combat taking place as well. The shooters were pros.

That was some tactical shit if I've ever seen it.

That was fucking text book close quarters combat. Suppressive fire, approach, flank. Holy shit.

And they got away.

No they didn't.

If you believe this guy did it all alone you deserve what is coming.

You're unable to comprehend what I said due to your mental incapability. If you say they got away, post a source. Otherwise both guys getting caught is the story with the most supporting evidence.

I wish I was as smart as you.

If you want to form a uniform theory you should provide a source. I'm sure the motive for this situation goes higher than what the main story suggests, but if you want to make anyone think otherwise your really need you prove your point.

Yeah my thoughts exactly.

It looks like people who've already shot someone before, no hesitation.

If you look closely at the 27 and 28 second mark of that video. The shooter pulls the trigger too quickly when running up on the cop. The shooter fires off one round behind the cop by about 8 feet while running behind him and then another about two feet behind him, finally getting his barrel on the cop and pulling the trigger. Why would he be so trigger happy and fire off those rounds?

They're saying he didn't see service in Afghanistan, so I guess maybe that explains some things.

Drugs

id say its some ex-military dudes getting some revenge.

probably fresh from an oil war, this'd be no big deal.

They got away for now. It will probably be the patsies that get caught too.

7/7 is a special day for our masters, they like to make sacrifices and set off false flags. The attack on the London underground was on 7/7, the date is almost as important as 9/11. They also like the number 77, remember Flight 77 on 9/11, also remember '77 dead' in the Norway attacks,

For a significant event of this nature to occur on the 7th July, one has to assume it's the usual suspects at work with their tricks, shenanigans and manipulative agenda; they are initiating one of their plans.

they are initiating one of their plans.

I agree.

Who do you think "they" is?

Rockefeller, Rothschild and Co

The Network .... see Carol Quigley's Tragedy and Hope

The police will be more agressive than ever as the gun laws will get stricter. People will be losing their last scraps of power and be forced to more and more submissive state

Do you think that the fact that it took place two blocks away from Dealey Plaza where JFK was shot has any significance?

I was wondering why nobody has discussed this yet.

Quite a few simillarities between the two events.

I suspect you're onto something, perhaps some super secret offices/base around there where the dark arts are planned

What video are you guys talking about?

Thank you

How fucking convenient that this happened within a day of those other shootings and now everybody is back to hating Black people.

How fucking convenient

Convenient for Hillary maybe!

What? Hating minorities is the main energy source for the trump campaign.

Which ones? I thought they just hated illegal immigrants.

Misinformation is strong with uninformed Trump opposers.

It's strong in both camps. Take a step back. There is never a candidate of the people.

Muslims... ...and black people at Trump rallies generally haven't been treated very well by his supporters

I think it has more to do with their disruptive behavior than skin color, but that's just me.

The Trump campaign serves the Clinton campaign. This is all about getting another Clinton in office to rubber stamp a trade deal. NAFTA with hubby and TPP with wifey.

But not really because we are not going to forget about HRC

More like hating white people. I live in Charlotte and I just got threatened outside on my own yard. It's the second time I've come put of my house to be called a "cracker" and told "you'll be next" or "Fuck you white bitch". They literally say these things. They weren't even part if the protests, just walking down my street.

Not to mention, all these incidents will help the gun control agenda. Black man shot cause he had a gun in his pocket. Another black man shot because he had a concealed carry. Bunch of people shot now in Dallas (plus Orlando). They want our guns and they will make it so the vast majority of us are begging them to take 'em away.

Only Americans would be stupid enough to ask the government to take away their rights. Even if you don't like guns you should always keep the right to own them in your back pocket. Who knows when you'll need it?

Agreed. I don't own a firearm, but I understand why we have the constitutional right to bear arms, and I think it's very important to preserve that right, for several reasons.

5 cops had guns and are dead.

How did carrying a gun protect them?

Oh my...way to extraordinarily oversimplify the issue. People often die in car accidents even with a seatbelt on. Sometimes they die BECAUSE they were wearing a seatbelt. By your logic, seatbelts are useless and/or dangerous and we should get rid of them.

Every single cop that was shot to death was carrying a gun.

The point is, having a gun is not a protection from bullets. Why do you tell people to buy a gun rather than a ballistic vest which can actually save their lives if they get shot? Guns don't stop bullets, kevlar does.

But the gun nuts never tell people to buy kevlar vests.

Why is that?

I'm sorry, but I don't even know how to respond to such ridiculous assumptions and unreasoned absurdity. 😂😂😂

Of course you can't respond. You call them ridiculous assumptions, but you can't explain how a gun can stop a bullet, can you? You also can't explain why none of you gun nuts advocates for the wearing of kevlar vests - equipment that actually can stop bullets.

And you really don't want to have to explain this:

Overall, Branas’s study found that people who carried guns were 4.5 times as likely to be shot and 4.2 times as likely to get killed compared with unarmed citizens. When the team looked at shootings in which victims had a chance to defend themselves, their odds of getting shot were even higher.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17922-carrying-a-gun-increases-risk-of-getting-shot-and-killed/

It's simple logic that gun nuts refuse to even contemplate - if you are in a position to shoot an offender, he is in a position to shoot you, and the more you try to do it, the more chances you give him to do it to you too.

Having no gun and running away is significantly less risky than having a gun and engaging in a shootout. It's simple logic borne out by the statistics.

You think getting in a shootout will save your life. What you forget is the other guy might be a better shot.

The Hidden agenda behind The BLM movement is to Social Engineer The Nation of Islam into joining The Islamic State.

Source? This sounds just far-fetched to me. Especially since the NOI is so different from Sunni Islam it's like the difference between Christianity and Hinduism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_Islam

Islam is Islam. They are all liars and hide it very well. One group says no it's not us it's them and when you go to the other group they say the same thing. They cover for each other while they get stronger and stronger.

That link doesn't prove your conspiracy. It says nothing about BLM. It says nothing about Sunni Islam which btw is nothing like the NOI as I've already said. So why would BLM convince them to go to ISIS and why would the NOI support a completely different group?

ISIS is known to kill people that follow slight deviations from Sunni Islam so why would they even accept their help if it's practically a different religion?

If anything - the other way around. ISIS messaging works on those vulnerable and disenfranchised. They use the Internet and hidden camps to radicalize and train here in the US. They use mosques and prisons as a way to recruit soilders.

This is entirely based on crazy uncle Intel from a special ops family member who dated a prison guard. Take it with a grain of salt but it's interesting none the less.

They are looking for anyone who will pledge alliance to them.

By snipers they mean people shooting from an unknown tactical location. Not a guy in a gillie suit who has been monitoring enemy movements from the same spot for three days.

How is it completely impossible that they fired a bunch of shots from high up, then moved out of the building?

Have you seen the footage?

I saw footage of them spotting a guy from up high in what looks like a parking garage, and people freaking out and running. I saw the footage later of the cop being shot from close range.

Again, by sniper do you take it as a guy in camo hidden in some brush? Or a guy up high and hidden, like Oswald? It isn't possible that shots were fired from up high and the guy moved? Or one guy was up high, and one was lower?

Edit: misread your op. Didn't realize you said it wasn't JUST snipers. My b

Like Oswald...

Initially one guy was in a firefight with police at ground level but then moved up.

I am saying all the victims were not killed by sniper fire. It was probably a dozen people on the team involved in the shootout and another couple of dozen people behind the scene.

Why would you think I would think Mercenaries would wear camo in an urban warfare scenario?

can't make out much from that. who's on the roof filming this shit? where is other footage?

I had to go and look up CNN's footage of this, because this looked quite different from the one I saw last night. This is CNN's footage - from a slightly different angle. Notice it's blurred out and they skip the actual shooting - they didn't skip the shooting last night. I remember thinking the person who was shot fell much slower than Fox's version and I thought he was either shirtless or wearing a white shirt (it was hard to tell with all the blurring going on.)

If you look closely at the 27 and 28 second mark. The shooter pulls the trigger too quickly and fires off one round behind the cop by about 8 feet and then another about two feet behind him. Why would he be so trigger happy and fire off those rounds?

You tell me

Untrained, or is trained got too excited because of adrenaline and fired off those shots.

are those huge sparks really what would happen? I have no idea, but they seem ridiculously large.

no, it isn't. they're called 'spark hits' and they're standard in movie and TV VFX. go on you tube and search 'spark hits.' It's all a bit production. Nobody died. Yet another hoax.

Dont confuse me with white knighting, but pro paint ballers do this move where they run up point blank. Except in paintball they dont light them up, they let them surrender.

The psychological pressure and adreneline of being under life-ending live fire is incomparible to paintball imo. As its been now shown conclusively this man was in fact a soldier.

I see your point, but it's like saying, well that looks like a military technique but you also do that in chess. Of course thats correct because one is a simulation right.

Whats your point? Ex-military doesn't exist in the US?

They were mercenaries. Their history does not matter. What do you have against veterans?

They were mercenaries

Wow big words with no evidence. They could also be a disgruntled bunch of veterans. Being a veteran doesn't make you automatically Christ incarnate.

Ok.

Mercenaries? Possible. Mexico and their very well funded drug cartels are not far from Dallas, and many are operating within US boarders. Could this be a cartel having hired mercenaries, or using their own forces, and taking their revenge on Dallas PD?

I would bet on it being Northrop Grumman.

I've seen this twice now. Why NG?

Who else could it be?

Money? ✔️

Logistics? ✔️

Motive? ✔️

Crazy? ✔️

More?

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We have something up our sleeve that will shake things up a bit. It still has to get worse for people to really listen unfortunately.

Footage link?

/r/watchpeopledie has a couple videos of it

I woke up wanting waffles today.. now? Well now i don't know what I want.

Now they are saying that it was just one guy, unbelievable!

and wearing body armor.

Link for close combat footage?

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Begging NG for work.

Yeah despite the video showing clearly that it was close-range combat, they kept pushing the meme that it was two snipers--basically asking the public to ignore what they could see with their very own eyes.

Now law enforcement and the media are saying there was only one gunman, like they always do.

With a AR and Handgun like always.

By the time they're done "investigating", it will be another lone gunman story. If it's more than one, that makes it a conspiracy, by definition. Can't have that.

It is looking that way.

Please provide your source. I can't seem to find it myself

And who are you, a CQB instructor?

He doesn't have to be. I'll paraphrase what my neighbor (combat vet, sheriff) told me when he saw the video clip in question. "That guy's trained. He's too cool in a firefight not to be."

And he pointed out what's been noted in this thread. Distract, advance, flank. That wasn't a normal shooter.

Now it could just mean the shooter himself is a combat vet. But this isn't some hood rat.

And let's not forget that this was a planned attack. An ambush. They knew the protest route. They set up a kill box with a high concentration of LEO targets.

How much more evidence do you need that these guys are trained and possibly pros?

Maybe you're right, this is actually a description of the tactic from a tactical course instruction breakdown:

"Faking is an important skill that is often overlooked and not taught. Good faking is an important key in just about every offensive combat situation. A fake simply is a deception or decoy move to throw the defender off balance, or get him leaning the wrong way just long enough so the offensive shooter can gain a step or two on him, or so a flanker can open up the shooting lane."

Just kidding, it's from a basketball tips page and I replaced the word(s) basketball, player & passer with combat, shooter & flanker.

But you're still probably right because I don't know of too many black guys who are into basketball.

And... the shooter is confirmed former Army.

Enjoy your plate full of crow.

Ok?

He was also an avid shooter with time spent at ranges, which doesn't render my previous point moot.

It's okay to admit when you're wrong. I mean, most people aren't such jackasses and proven wrong so blatantly so I know it's embarrassing but you'll be okay man.

I would like for you to point out directly how I am wrong. Show me the difference in the description of 'faking' and what the shooter does in the video clip.

I'll wait.

You're wrong on two fronts: one, doubting the obvious and what we all saw with our own eyes, then stubbornly and embarrassingly refusing to admit you were clueless after it turned out we were all correct. And two, thinking mods can't tell you're using multiple accounts to downvote. Reported - don't bother denying it.

Still waiting, kiddo.

I keep seeing this comment. Am I the only person who plays PvP?

Did you watch the video? The shooter and the cop were behind pillars. The guy shot to the left of the pillar causing the cop to move to the right and then he flanked him on the right and shot him point blank.

There is no way that's the first time this guy's been in combat. You don't learn that shit from Call of Duty. The guy did it all in one fluid motion as if it was totally natural.

Indeed, and on the thread in r/protectandserve they unanimously agree from the footage that these guys are properly trained for tactical combat, no question. My hope is that with police officers knowing this was planned and carried out by professionals it will prevent any later claims that this was just some angry gang bangers getting their revenge on white cops, and a real investigation about who is involved will follow.

They're already changing it to one shooter

Maybe you're right, this is actually a description of the tactic from a tactical course instruction breakdown:

"Faking is an important skill that is often overlooked and not taught. Good faking is an important key in just about every offensive combat situation. A fake simply is a deception or decoy move to throw the defender off balance, or get him leaning the wrong way just long enough so the offensive shooter can gain a step or two on him, or so a flanker can open up the shooting lane."

Just kidding, it's from a basketball tips page and I replaced the word(s) basketball, player & passer with combat, shooter & flanker

But you're still probably right because I don't know of too many black guys who are into basketball.

If you think the mindset of a human is the same during a basketball game as it is during a fire fight you're probably a psychopath. Staying calm when you're facing an armed and trained opponent is not something many people can do without training.

I never implied that the shooter did not have some kind of training.

Are you a psychologist?

If I said yes would that change your opinion of my answer?

Maybe.

Shooters appear to have been trained and appear to be on a mission. This was planned and executed. This was not a random act. This kind of action requires training, experience and logistical support.

Why Dallas? Why now? What is the real objective here?

The real objective is to make people scared. Nobody will join a protest if there's a chance of a shooting at it. They'll just stay at home and keep going to their jobs if they feel it's too dangerous to protest.

fuck, that makes me wanna go. wish I had a drone to record with.

this is history, man.

shit's goin down....

Everyone that can needs to go protest the DNC and rnc conventions. And film everything they can like ur suggesting.

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Johnson wasn't the only one shooting - cops were firing too, it was chaos.

Good chance that she was hit by a cop's bullet.

Not that I know of.

i feel this is where the real shit is going down. It scares me as a Canadian to think what is planned. But everything points to something going down at the DNC convention. News stations are talking about it. This tells me so much seeing as how our "news" outlets are scripted

That was my first thought. I'll be at the DNC protest for sure!

The media will brand you a rabid Trump supporter or a socialist Sanders supporter or a wacky hippy. Basically you'll get a few minutes of air time with some mediasplanation and they'll continue to back pro Clinton rhetoric.

No it's misdirection. George soros bis a huge backer for Clinton. And he also funded BLM, pretty convenient this happens right after we're told Clinton wont have any charges brought against her.

It can be both. I don't disagree with you. I absolutely believe there were multiple shooters, and they were a professional team, hired to be agent provocateurs.

I honestly think this is right just like Boston bombings a week after HSBC drug scandal.

Or Bill Clinton bombing Kosovo after the Lewinsky story started moving.

Wag the Dog

Really? Do external news sources support this theory?

Yup this is what I thought, bainwashed mkultra shooter who got triggered to do this in order to take attention off Killary

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Killary could have called Soros, or the mkultra groups, to call for 'an event' and there you go, all eyes off Killary

That doesn't make any sense they attacked the police not the protestors

But the cops will be a lot more dangerous at the next protest.

Radicalizing police is a large part of this too. Police are being brainwashed to think and act like soldiers who see the public as their enemies. A police shooting from a supposed "protester" will make police be hostile to protests.

I've talked to a few people who are now afraid to attend vigils and protests, because they fear a shooting might happen. Their awful mindgames are working unfortunately.

As if many aren't already brutalizing enough...

Which means BLM will have an enormous counter protest movement anywhere they go now as they are associated with being cop-killers. If the point is to cause schism and a race war, there you go.

Remember, this was probably one the most multicultural BLM protests yet because Castile's death was so much harder to obfuscate and lie about than Sterling's since Sterling had a police record, a gun (that looked planted since we see the cop's hand go in his pocket), and he was starting some shit before the police got involved. Then Castile's death comes along and a large amount of people who didn't care about BLM woke up and said, "this shit isn't right." It took them a while to dig up dirt on Castile and the dirt they had wasn't dissuading people from joining the BLM/anti-police state movements.

I had a buddy in Afghanistan. He was ordered to snipe and kill an American soldier who was in the process of being captured by Taliban forces because that soldier had intel the CO was afraid would leak. He said he missed the shot and the CO immediately called in an air-strike then beat the living shit out of my friend, put a gun to his head, and reminded him how their lives only serve one purpose, the purpose he gives them. He presumably didn't execute my friend because there were too many other soldiers looking on (none of them doing anything about the situation I might point out). Well, extend that thinking to our generals and nation's leaders who are far more psychotic than my buddy's CO. They'll kill a few of their own if it discredits the enemy.

Now BLM is split along racial lines again, the next rally is likely to have a lot more agitated (read: violent) protesters, the fence sitters won't be sitting, and the haters will be out in full force. Even the strongest BLM supporters are going to wonder if its worth being part of a movement that is now being called a terrorist movement, especially if they're afraid of agent provocateurs in the crowd.

I'm guessing we'll see a lot more military hardware at the next big rally too. Maybe they'll finally deploy that heat laser they've been using on foreigners.

So that's why they didn't shoot at protesters...?

Radicalizing police is a large part of this too. Police are being brainwashed to think and act like soldiers who see the public as their enemies. A police shooting from a supposed "protester" will make police be hostile to protests.

I've talked to a few people who are now afraid to attend vigils and protests, because they fear a shooting might happen. Their awful mindgames are working unfortunately.

And as others have mentioned, we aren't talking about Hillary's email scandal anymore. What convenient timing for all of this.

we aren't talking about Hillary's email scandal anymore

We stopped talking about it when the FBI recommended no charges. Hilary had nothing to gain from this.

The FBI's recommendations to not charge have certainly been a topic of discussion at the Senate. We aren't going to stop talking about it just because of the FBI.

We aren't going to stop talking about it just because of the FBI.

Most people have. Let it go.

How to spot a shill 101: read your post history.

Glad you think so much of me that you had to dig through my post history. What comments specifically gave away that I'm a shill? I'll make sure to delete those.

I hope you are right. But right now i dont think that is the objective. I think the people are already scared. I think the past 15 years have been a mission to scare the people. I think we have reached a point where that fear is going to be manipulated into accepting a fascist government. Please please let me be wrong but, I feel something is going to happen at the DNC convention resulting in Obama declaring Martial Law and suspending the election. After that all power/water/banks will be shut down indefinitely as civilians are rounded up and taken to FEMA camps. God i dont want to think about it but it's fucking happening

Obama doesn't need to stay in power if Hillary is slated to win the election. The elite would much prefer Hillary. They don't need martial law, that's only used when people get in the streets to demand change. Otherwise, they'll keep relying on the old "bread and circuses" methods of distractions.

Protest was said to be "in response" to the shootings from the last 2 days (Castile and Sterling). If that's the case, then these shooters were either trained to do this at a moment's notice, or this is part of a bigger scheme.

Populace won't distract themselves from no FBI charges, would they?

The outrage over her was bipartisan (at least among the people). State Dept announced they would reopen the case just a few hours before the shooting in Dallas.

Reopen the case???????

thanks, the article won't open, but this is shocking. mob rules.

So enough people showed outrage and they are opening back up the investigation. crazy!

The State Department was doing their own probe, but they suspended it to let the FBI do their own investigation. Now that the FBI's investigation is over, the State Department can continue their review. Doesn't really have anything to do with people showing outrage.

So, will it be completed before July 29th? No. Will it be completed before November. Doesn't matter.

Comey being fine with the scrubbing of 30,000 "personal" emails at the Forensic level before being handed over is the FBI is no different than a drug dealer flushing his stash.

And I have to warn about pseudo-investigations to quell public opinion. We saw a lot of them during the Sanders election fraud. What ever happened to the case against Bill campaigning inside polling places... Nada. What about the one pending against the dnc for collusion with HRC? Probably another fake. Hand the reigns people and move on, well take care of it...

I'm 58 and pretty much every "investigation" has served to obscure the truth. Obviously, the Warren Commission...

The trick is not to conceal everything, that would be too obvious. Do "limited hangout", make it apparent that "something" happened, but gee, not really enough to actually arrest or punish any of the real perpetrators. Then let a few low-level flunkies fall on their sword.

Right on. What's your take on Snowdon and Asange (and now even guccifer 2.0)? Seems like lightweight stuff most of the time, most recently a freakin ad for the Democratic party and how much money they have to spend on their bus wrap

They had to have been planning this for a while, which just goes to show that NSA spying is not working. They'll probably try and increase domestic spying now.

So.....they launch Pokemon GO.

It's a good distraction, I guess all the Pentagon needs to do is promote stuff.

  1. If they weren't known to authorities, and there was no prior need to look at their communications, no one would have been looking at their communications.
  2. Even if the attackers were known to authorities, I doubt they would have been unsecurely planning the attack online.

so giving them more access to our data doesn't help, as keeps being proven, time and time again...

The guy taken out by a robot was ex-military, so they probably did everything off the grid.

I vote "bigger scheme"

... The people that did this were probably former military. Former active infantry (MOS 11B) would be my guess.

I'm noticing how long it's taking to hear the name, race or possible motivation of any of the shooters yet. They've got three faceless, anonymous people in custody, and one faceless anonymous dead guy. I guess they'll decide on the names later, once they decide who to pin it on.

or they have been trained before this and used the training to their advantage

Who has black op soliders ready at a moments notice and can be part of a bigger scheme? Looks like NG's work again.

NG?

Northrop Grumman

Can you explain why/how they would do this?

They are the hidden hand.

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They are capable of being 10 steps ahead of the Police and Government and use it to push a narrative they want pushed.

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TLDR they are trying to fulfill Biblical Prophecy to establish a Global Kingdom.

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I like you.

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They are just normal Human Beings.

I just looked this up this is some Merryweather security type shit

Truth is stranger than fiction for sure.

Huey P Newton gun club

Amateurs.

Lol wtf are you talking about? People knew how to shoot before the protest was arranged, and learning the layout of an area is no big feat.

this is part of a bigger scheme.

Like maybe discrediting the #BlackLivesMatter movement?

They know another civilian death by cop is inevitable. They just don't know when or where it will happen.

Seems like a good choice too, since there is very little question about this shooting. The cop was wrong.

I think you mean "part of a bigger hoax."

Hillary was getting hammered in the news. They needed to shift the focus and make people forget.

To distract from the Hillary debacle. To take away guns. To scare us into either accepting Hillary or Trump as president.

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There are some 20+ other people running for president in 3rd parties, and independent groups. Vote for one of them!

There are certainly good third-party choices. The problem is, you will never hear about them in a million years. The mainstream media is bought and paid for. They are either not mentioned at all, or dismissed as looney tunes.

It's as if the Media only thinks there are two choices....

Take away guns and decreased liberty will be the result.

and to increase the militarization of the police.

So then we fight that BY NOT FALLING FOR IT.

Preparing military state, i.e. marshal law, -- first by removing powers of the second amendment with the use of the PATRIOT act (because it nullifies our constitution (cos terrorism)), -- then by opening borders to radical migrants, some with terrorist training, -- and then fascism 3.0: new world order, i.e. military governments ruled by a set of multinational conglomerates controlled by central banks.

Edit: Why Dallas? The CIA has sniping experience with Dallas.

Edit 2: Then again, setting up the CIA would be kinda clever...

So the fact that this thing happened during a protest doesn't mean anything? It was just a convenient place to ambush a crowd?

It's meant to ignite our prejudices and cause mayhem.

Nationwide riots necessitating martial law. martial law means they don't have to go through with this lose/lose election, and the focus can be shifted to WWIV with Russia/Iran/China.

And the rapidly tanking world economy.

World economy is like a 777 out of fuel. They're trying to glide the big bitch as far as they can, using every trick in the book, but eventually it'll hit the ground and when it does it'll be pandemonium.

All of the people used to getting free shit are still gonna get their free shit one way or another.

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they won't choose die of starvation. They will loot.

The whole dying of starvation thing isn't usually chosen. It just sorta happens.

They're too fucking fat to loot.

you people keep saying this and I keep watching the futures uptick http://www.investing.com/indices/us-spx-500-futures

Stock market in Venezuela is also great. What's your point?

Oh just that when the average dumbass touts that he knows something about the market and the evidence of where the market is going , keeps going the opposite way of what said dumbass keeps saying.

Though I understand your argument assuming the markets represent reality with all the manipulation by the (central) banks is betting on the wrong horse to put it mildly.

It's safer to assume everything on the market which is "too big to fail" is managed with whatever it takes to keep afloat.

None of that will never happen.

I know I live under a rock, but when was this WWIII I missed it?

It's more commonly known by it's brand name; The Cold War.

There were many Call of Duty games between MW2 and MW3; similarly, the next WW is III

The Cold War qualifies as a world war by every measurement that could possibly be applied.

Except for actual conflict between the two principal nations involved, as well as a lack of formally stated war aims.

Except for the two sides fighting the war actually, you know, fighting. You're wrong about this.

"Every measurement that could possibly be applied."

But there was no one on one fighting. So your Theory is wrong using your logic.

Can anyone explain to me why US wants a war so badly with russin/china? I've read that shillary especially wants a war with russia, but all russia wants is to be left alone. What is there to gain by the US going to an unwinnable war with russia/china where everyone will die due to nukes? Is this literally all nothing more than the US wanting world domination? I genuinely wonder if this is the plot of all of this.

Some think they just want to spend taxpayer money on weapons that just happen to come from their friends and business partners.

War = money. War spending has kept America afloat for 100 years. Go read a book called War is a Racket. It's decades old now but it's still spot on.

Gog magog show down.

Gotta have one side take a dive to make the punters embrace the victors real nwo.

Population control after the draft is enacted...?

War: to the victor go the spoils.

Or WWIII+, since we've been at this for a while.

WWIII is post-911 occupation of Afghanistan and the Levant....and the american people with cybernetic ritual abuse[1][2][3]

The abuse will escalate now, they're gonna be using robots to take people out.

Didn't realize ww3 already happened mine filling me in lmao

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If you make a lot of crazy predictions some of them are bound to be true

Yes. She's full of shit. Concrete analysis helps predict the future, not some blind Bulgarian 'mystic' who predicted WWIII in 2010.

How do you know she's full of shit?

Divide and conquer.

Make white people hate black people, make black people hate white people.

Make cops hate citizens, make citizens hate cops.

This in itself was a crime based on divisiveness (the guy supposedly wanted to kill white people and cops because of the stuff happening recently).

When a nation is divided and people hate each other, it takes the focus away from real problems (and any potential solutions to them).

I fully agree with this.

I think all of the other potential results, i.e gun control, marshal law, etc. are definitely likely to follow with more events. And I'm also totally willing to believe that this was some sort of false flag/psyop potentially with the CIA or FBI involved (sniper in Dallas on 7/7 definitely seems like a nod to past events).

But what you said is an absolute guarantee. These events combine together to result in more division, more fighting, more hatred, more animosity, more violence, more death. It's really said that, we, as Americans are constantly caught up in this bullshit, while the powers that be try their best to brainwash us to hate each other and direct our anger at each other, preventing many from being angry at who they should be angry at: the elites.

A house divided...

Why Dallas?

There's just something about Dallas isn't there?

And there are live accounts on Twitter from people that were there saying the shooter got out of a cop car.

Damn, really? Do you think they are still up, or do you think someone saved them somewhere?

Can you point me to a link/screenshots of those reports? I hadn't heard about that yet, but it'd be completely in line with the false flag narrative

There's CCTV footage of a man appearing from the balcony and shooting down on 2 officers killing one and then killing the other when he attempted to retrieve the body.

Yes there was a " sniper " but he had an automatic weapon on the second floor. This is fact.

Edit : sniper

Anyone have a link to this

We won't know until they start releasing the backstory for the supposed shooters. My guess? They will blame it on white supremacists in order to further the racial divide. Smells like Gladio, keep an eye out for FBI involvement.

There's a video of a black guy doing the shooting.

Yeah it was early, just my theory. I created a full breakdown of what I think was going on, just posted it right now. False flag for sure after watching the conflicting stories being reported.

I'm watching it, I agree with the fact about the guy who they were gonna use as a patsy. They would have executed him without questions and then planted the rifle on him to justify everything.

He really lucked out. I am trying to get an interview with him and/or his brother.

It's insane just how dangerous it can be to exercise your 2nd amendment rights. Good luck with the interview, hope you got it.

That's an interesting thought. This way it keeps people divided between trump and Hillary. It makes everyone take a side that equally fucks us over.

The current front page of Drudge isnt going to do anything for the 'summer of chaos' theories.

http://drudgereport.com/

It's almost like he's pushing a narrative.. oh wait. It's AJ.

What is the summer of chaos

You believe this shit?

/r/conspiracy would never consider the above to be a disinformation campaign because they've already dug themselves too deep into the whole "George Soros controls BLM" pov.

wrong, we know that shit is fake fake fake.

BLM hacked twitter messages showed plans of BLM working with the obama administration and AG Loretta Lynch to bus in rioters and instigators to cause a bunch of violence, especially at the democratic and republican conventions. This would give obama an excuse to declare martial law and cancel the election "until the crisis is over". They think by getting obama to declare martial law and stay in office they "win"

If they think that'll work they're mistaken. Doing that will backfire harder than anything in the history of humanity.

Yeah that's just such a bad plan I have a hard time believing it's genuine.

it is proven fake.

I can remember clearly the seemingly endless conversations I had with people in 2007-2008 where they'd try to convince me that George Bush was going to do the same. I remember a lot of similar conversations in 2012.

Who knows? Maybe this time it's true. I suspect it's not based on the reliability and availability of the evidence I've seen so far. And from a "grand metanarrative" perspective it's kind of hard to buy. These nearly omnipotent, power crazed, shadowy globalists wouldn't let a little thing like an election get in the way right? Surely there's some better way to "brave new world" us into oblivion without suspending elections. But who knows.

People should be prepared for disruptions to daily life even if we can't be sure they'll happen or predict their specific causes, for the same reason that people should buy insurance. And it's always better to be alert and keep your eyes and mind open.

But every community needs to be careful that they don't end up being tagged as "the boy who cried wolf".

The objective is to put the sheep back in there place. Why Dallas?? Cause it's symbolic.....JFK.....he wanted the gold standard....he announced it....then we know what happened after.....I don't believe in coincidence, and watching the footage it was way to tactical

many people train with guns these people may or may not have planned this specifically for this day

Huey P Newton gun club perhaps?

7/7 in the same city Kennedy was murdered?

I think it's an attempt to build-up the chaos surrounding racial protests which will climax at the RNC and make people afraid to vote Trump because it would "tear us all apart." Not that Trump is an angel, but Hillary is bought and paid for and can be controlled by blackmail as well. She will also be the weakest president ever (since Obama) as she is under constant attack and investigation by the republicans for four years. All those things are desireable in a candidate from the oligarchical perspective.

Think something that was just presented to the American public will become back page news? Gun control got real silent.

Gun stores are going to be busy tomorrow!

Give it till sunrise PST. The authoritarian brainjobs are still sleeping.

Lol totally thought this.

This. These "snipers" we're trained and government affiliated

Hillary's emails aren't in the news cycle.

I would bet that they were trained by a military, you dolt.
Logistics? The nearest gun shop.
It's really not that difficult if you think about it.

I think it's the media and corrupt government trying to make us forget about the Hillary Clinton bull.

What is the real objective here?

Helter Skelter. Martial law, civil war, divide and conquer, new gun control laws to disarm the population, etc.

Wow. Makes you wonder how a person gets Radicalized/Brainwashed into something like this. He knew he would be killed and didn't care which tells me that he believed he had nothing else to live for. Scary stuff.

Why does everyone assume this? If someone buys a sniper rifle what's stopping them from going on a roof and using it?

If it were multiple people then it was definitely organized, but that doesn't mean it "requires" training to look through a scope, point, and shoot. It's pretty straight forward.

First time I went to a shooting range I was surprised at how easy it was.

Did you not see his movements during the CQC? Shot to get cop back in cover, flanked, double tapped, and immediately got back into cover. All in one smooth sweep. No hesitation, no choking, no thinking. This was something taught.

Source? I would very much like to look into this

Yea that person looked trained. That move to distract the policeman doesn't look like it was improvised.

Having served myself, the military does not train soldiers to go on one man Rambo-style assaults.

They train you to go in as a group

I agree they have training but is it really that hard? Cops are only trained to shoot dogs and unarmed citizens.. they have no actual training in these situations.

Why Dallas? Why now? What is the real objective here?

Texas = Nukes

Shock and Awe

Global War

Gov Abbott also recently called for Convention of States in response to federal overreach and corruption: http://kxan.com/2016/01/08/gov-abbott-calls-for-constitutional-convention-of-states/

I did not know about the Convention of States until yesterday when my US History professor went on a tantrum about it. The whole public needs to know about this. The Framers were aware that power always tends to corrupt which is why they created this safeguard for the states.

Unfortunately the feds will see it as potential "terrorism" or racism or something.

Ignite racial war to keep people divided and in order to move away all the attention from the Shill

Or actually enact martial law to keep Obama in power?

Maybe. Time will tell.

Lol nobody associates Texas with Nukes.

Lol your going to pick a plant in the panhandle? Man you really don't know Texas. Amarillo might as well be in a different country you moron.

You need help.

You lost the argument.

Texas = Nukes

You lost.

Can confirm. Amarillo is what you'd picture as an outsider would consider as stereotypical cowboy Texans with weather that feels like Alaska to us.

lol, hello friend!

Hello! God Bless Texas.

Hey! Im visiting from Washington DC. Right now in Austin!

Not my scene, too liberal for my likes. BUT great to visit! For damn sure. Have a good time! Stay safe brother.

Amen God bless Texas

texas has been talking succession again since the brexit, possible thread to tug on based on how they spin things in the am.

Texas had never stopped talking secession

They can't legally do it but I wish they could because I would have no problem with Texas leaving the Union. It would fuck them so hard and they can take their uppity asses and eat a dick. Every major corporation operating there, save for oil and gas, would immediately start looking for a new place to relocate.

yeah i really very highly doubt that, opening new HQ offices in the rest of the US sure, but pulling out would just cut them off from the texas market.

also a large chunk of US oil production is based out of texas so i am very certain they would be just fine. Texas leaving would very likely coincide with some pretty major social upheaval in the rest of the US

No, we get enough shale that Texas doesn't matter anymore. They aren't the big dog they think they are anymore. I'd love to see Texas leave the Union. Then we wouldn't have to deal with their batshit politicians anymore and their uppity attitudes.

And no it wouldn't cut them off from the Texas market. Do you suddenly think Texas is going to become some self sustaining country with no foreign trade? They need us more than we need them. I say good riddance to bad rubbish.

The U.S. will be just fine without Texas.

good luck with that. im sure there are plenty of idiots in europe who made similar claims about brexit that are now shitting their pants.

Prarie Bomb! a beer brewed in Oklahoma is consistantly rated one of the best beers in the country. Shiner Bock, brewed in Texas, is one of the worst

Occurs on 7/7/16 or 777.

Dallas is 33 parallel.

Operation "Helter Skelter".

Theme Song for Summer 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa64gOwuIyE

7/7 is also the anniversary of the London bombings.

It's also my girlfriend and I's anniversary. Dallas can't melt london bombings Confirmed.

777 is the antithesis to 666 in religion. Jews consider 3 and 7 to be "perfect numbers".

Christians consider it to be the sign of the threefold perfection of the holy trinity. The perfect beings represented a perfect number of times by the perfect number 777

Some Christian sects consider it to be the number of the end of revelations. 7 angels, 7 trumpets, and 7 bowls of wrath

Occultists and Qabalah use it for a different meaning completely away from God. They're farther into magic and mysticism. They revere the number 33 above all others. Masons, Occutists, Qabahlists, and luciferians.

Aleister Crowley wrote a whole piece on triple 7. 777 and Other Qabalistic Writings of Aleister Crowley, which outlined the Law of Thelema. A philosophical religon he believed he was the prophet of.

The occult meaning behind 777 would be more likely if they actually cared about symbolism.

The symbolism they use is clear as day in many places once you know what to look for and read about guys like Crowley and Albert Pike.

You don't have to believe in magic or mysticism for them to believe it. They do a lot of weird fucking shit. If they follow Crowley then they're batshit crazy but will implant the symbolism into everything they do because they believe in the power of numbers and symbols even if you don't.

Instability caused now would fit in with Pikes third world war as a way to continue the exhaustion and nihilism

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Gen. Albert Pike 1871

There is a lot more to it but I find it's better to just let a curious individual read and draw conclusions for themselves given a small bit of information that they can use to investigate for themselves past what I say. Telling someone outright will make an unprepared person dismiss you outright. Most people will just read, scoff, and continue on with their day anyways.

How did Gen. Albert Pike know about the word "Nazism" in 1871, 60 years before the word began to be used?

So multiple, organized snipers in elevated positions has turned into one guy running around taking out 10+ cops on the ground? Something is seriously fishy here.

Indeed.

My friend has done 4 tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. I asked him if he could have done what the shooter did as we were discussing if it was a lone shooter or not.

He said "As much as I like the idea of a sniper team and a few people on the ground it's proly not the way it went. We did shit like that all the time in Iraq. To avert incoming fire and make them think we had more guys then we really did and locate their position. When the adrenaline is going It's not hard to move around like Sonic on crack. You fire off some rounds from up high around the area you think they are. As they're returning fire to that position run down and open suppressive fire to a more precise area you think they're at, then run back up and open fire again when you have them zeroed in. It not only helps you find your target it also confuses them so you can get a clean kill. I'd run up and down stairs in full gear in Iraqi summer weather. So doing it around a few buildings with elevators in Dallas would be a cake walk."

Not inconceivable. The 1966 University of Texas in Austin massacre ended up killing 16 and injuring 49. One man, lots of carnage.

Well it's either that or these one man wrecking crews are on some Bourne Identity shit. All of them expert killing machines able to kill 50 people with movie guns that don't need reloading and can do all of this single handed.

This is still bothering me.

A gay Muslim dude shoots up a night club And we forget about the voter fraud and recount in California. News comes out that the FBI will not go after Hillary Clinton and now another mass shooting of officers this time. Does the mass public forget about this one too? The night club guy scored 50 kills all by himself. The new guys looked pretty skilled again.

Lets not forget about John Ashe found strangled by his own barbell a day before he was set to testify about corruption potentially linked to the Clintons. News came out the morning of Brexit

Adding to the Clinton body count to detract from Hillary's focus on being let off the hook? Possible.

0 proof he was gay. Disinformation to disrupt the conversation and public opinion.

there is a video from an alledged ex boyfriend. plus testimony from others.

so somebody is putting resources into the story or meme of Mateen being gay.

everything costs money, fake and or real, somebody has to source and allocate that money to do the somethings.

if hoaxer trolls were faking those videos, they could be liable to arrest and court action and obstruction of justice charges.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html

I think it's shit. You've never met a queeny gossipy bullshitter in your life, have you?

So they planned the shooting of Sterling then ?

This logic is terrible.

Just a observation. In no way what I stated was fact. Your quick action to jump at me is terrible.

"Individual" and "acting alone" are now the narrative with the one name they've released from the 2-4 people said to be involved from last night. One man could not possibly do all this so fast from multiple angles and multiple levels. We have sniper fire from upper floors and the execution style killing on the ground happening around the same time, yes?

Edit: changed "awake" to "same."

I came to this sub just to find someone commenting on this. Theres no fuckin way this guy goes from the top of a building, running through the streets, then back through another building, gun fighting with 100s of trained officers swarming the area. Its just retarded.

That it the same thing I am here to find answers to. Apart from the fact that it was reported that there were multiple shooters who ambushed the police penning them in with gunfire from high up, I am having trouble believing that a lone gunman could have fired on police from the top of a building and actually made it out of said building without being met by the scores of police below. I mean how many exits were there for this shooter to have made it out of a building and proceed on foot to take out more police? The police were there literally seconds after the first shots were fired. Their first protocol would have been to completely surround the building, yet this one guy got out to continue a gunfight with police, which he also escaped from. When has that ever happened before?

And why isnt this being discussed in more depth by the MSM? The lack of analysis on this very very important issue is telling

Yeah honestly all the news is about BLM vs. Extremists vs. Cops. Who are these "extremists"? No media has really asked that.

maybe the cops are looking for the other guys but want them to think they dont know they exist so they are feeding the media bad info. its not unheard of.

Spam this link to all these LoneGunmanTM shills...

The chaos started when at least two snipers fired from an elevated position on police officers minutes before 9 p.m. local time (10 p.m. ET), Brown said. He called it an "ambush-style" shooting.

"We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different perches in garages in the downtown area, and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," he told a news conference earlier — noting that some victims were shot in the back.

Other suspects might still be at large. "We're hopeful that we have got everybody, but we don't know that for sure," Rawlings told NBC's TODAY.

He said the suspects in custody were "being pretty tight-lipped," but their motives were clear. "It's simple ... they wanted to kill police officers. And sadly, they did."

In contrast here are real veteran combat soldiers (not carpenters) at the Battle of Normandy lugging their gear. Johnson has a vest and a lot of ammo to carry. They are moving very slowly and deliberately, often ducking, start at 1:40. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm4qOkioLus

Yes and a suspect committed suicide inside the El Centro Community College while someone else was killed by a robot bomb. https://twitter.com/LAWGermany/status/751314341614407680

Also while all this was happening negotiations were going on as well.

Not a peep about those others once they named the "one shooter" this morning.

Ninja edit: at least not currently on CNN.

I know I'm way late to this, but a guy I work with swears he saw a video where a gunman kills a police officer. He says in the video the gunman and a cop face off. The cop shoots him but he has body armor and the cop hides around the corner. The shooter comes around the corner and shoots the cop and kills him. Anyone else see this video as he can't seem to find it again?

I've seen it too. Very much "military tactics" style by the shooter. He kills the cop from behind after coming around a column in front of a building. You might be able to find it on YouTube or other video host. I didn't save a link, unfortunately.

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I thought some were in custody??! Really, they are all dead now? I don't have cable, out in the sticks, no TV.

Conflicting reports (as always, perhaps by design), but as of last night DPD was reporting two were in custody. However, that two included one dead (Johnson) and the innocent suspect who turned himself in earlier.

Then there was another fatality reported at the El Centro CC garage, but that appears to have blended with the bomb robot killing of a suspect in negotiation (Johnson).

There were suspects in custody. They've all been released. The now alleged lone shooter was killed by a police robot rigged with a bomb.

No the garage is across the street. These reports came out and then the report of the suspect being blown up.

The suspect at el Centro said he had a bomb and was on radio with police. He demanded a cellphone and he got one, but as shrapnel. Just because there are different narratives doesnt mean its not the same suspect.

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Thank you for the thorough explanation. I'm going to try a piece this all together with google earth, as you suggested.

Wasn't there reports of someone being taken out and the other holed up for a while at the time? I could be mistaken, but I couldve swore I read that. Of course, there was a lot going on and a lot of uncertainty, so I could be mistaken.

No that's what they were saying last night.

Ok, thanks, I was sure i heard it somewhere. But now they're saying dude acted alone?

Go read Breibart.com the live wire of when this was happening. It has several thousand comments.

They were reporting multiple shootings and shooters and a suspect who had been shooting at police taken into custody alive.

Yknow, it's funny, I don't subscribe to this sub but I come here from time to time to confirm my memory of events. Maybe it's time i subscribed. Everything you're saying is what I remember, the idea that anything else is being said is shocking. Unless what was said at the time was wrong which is equally bad. That man who was accused, who turned over his gun, is screwed because the media got it wrong. Either the media got it wrong, or the media got it right and it's being covered up. It's a shame we can't hold them accountable.

I know a conspiracy theorist is considered a nut job and whatever. I'm a normal person who has lived in Dallas all of my 38 years. I get a text from best friend last night who says turn on the news now. I watched it all play out. I went and told my husband to turn off his Sopranos marathon and come watch this. When he wasn't interested at first I texted him and said seriously they have snipers in the Bank of America building (big green bldg) and El Centro college.

These were real things that happened in real time less than 24 hrs ago. No one is saying in order to subscribe you have to be a flat earther or believe in UFOs. I havent believed what the media has told me for awhile but this one really is crazy because so many people saw this happening.

You make a fair point. I've always been interested in 'conspiracy theories' and I've seen how people who associate with them are treated. I can believe in the moon landing and believe the government is not trustworthy. The idea the government is beyond reproach is ridiculous. The idea anyone is beyond reproach is ridiculous.

Always the same narrative, same talking heads spoon feeding us the same bullshit after each crisis.

https://youtu.be/jMX9Cz_W8kw

In this video it sounds pretty clear that there are multiple rifles being fired, one semi-auto, one full auto. Definitely sounds like more than one attacker to both me and the people in the video.

I'm starting to think that someone is telling them to constantly change the narrative in real time, to one end goal.

Glad I'm not the only one that notices this. :)

Also, does anyone else think the guy they now say acted alone looks to be about three sizes bigger than the guy in the video?

Some of these chapters are repeated again and again and yet human cattle continues to "try to understand the coincidences, discrepancies. unanswered questions", etc.

Victims of *** fake *** shootings: PHOTOSHOP and actors

Get the BASICS, from "dead" Castile/Sterling to "dead" police officers during "protest against police violence":

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4s7aaj/victims_of_fake_shootings_photoshop_and_actors/

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He fired to keep the cop pinned down behind the pillar and then outflanked him to deliver the coup-de grace, this guy is ex-military.

I know you posted your comment six hours ago, but they have now released the identity of the shooter, and he was indeed ex-military.

He clearly has military training, but what if he is not "ex?"

I heard he was in the Army Reserve.

Que the push to disarm all vets. The guy is goong to be made into black Rambo.

Military training doesn't really fade

My point is, what if they still work for the govt?

mercenary, like Craft International.

murderer for hire.

They probably do, like u/hillbilly_joe said as mercs

I don't think I can shoot 11 cops without being ex military. Please, cops love to use their weapons

Same guy police killed by robot?? Or different dude?

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Right, but was that the guy later killed by robot?

Nobody really knows and that's what is weird to me. We haven't heard the IDs of the two in the Mercedes or the lady that was also arrested. Just seems fishy to me.

Reminded me of Battlefield.

Link?

Do you mind linking the video you are talking about? I haven't seen it.

link to video?

That's because it was all staged make-believe. And he was firing spark hits, not real bullets.

Holy SHIT. Someone was just saying in here or another site that Dallas was something to keep an eye on. WTF.

THe establishment and media want a race war. We know it. They know that we know. They don't care. We must not allow them to continue to shove words into our mouths and cascade thoughts into our minds. We are better than that. The majority of people don't want to hate and despise one another. We are sick of that. We want there to be harmony. We just don't know how to go about it because someone isn't taking the reins. We can all lead. We just have to move as one. I know this seems like a silly response but I honesty don't know what to do or say anymore except for instill thoughts of hope and assurance to others. We can change what is. I know it. You know it.

I remember seeing a post about "keep on eye on Dallas" or "watch for Dallas" on this sub a few days ago. But can't seem to find it now...weird.

Someone find it

I'm thinking it's been deleted. I've searched every post here that mentions Dallas from the last 3-4 months and haven't found anything implying something might happen there.

It's on the FrontPage of voat right now.

Link??

I think it's bs

I remember reading too but havent found anything aside from comments by LC here Dec 2015 http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/08/huge-wave/

i saw a HUGE thread on r/C_S_T with very specific timelines and predictions. deleted minutes later. new acct and everything. super ominous now, i've asked over there is anyone happened to screenshot it but i doubt it.

Go look through the web archive.

How does that work

Archive.org wayback machine

Seriously? Can anyone fish this out of the ether?

I saw it too. Wasn't it from that 4chan guy claiming to work for the FBI? Maybe he was FBI after all. I had my doubts though.

I may have been reading Reddit too much lately, but I seem to remember reading that in the FBIAnon AMA. Someone had asked about the night club shooting. He responded that it was CIA. Then someone else asked if there were any other upcoming events & the guy responded with "Keep your eye on Dallas."

he didn't say keep your eye on dallas he said keep your eye on the conventions.

That's right! But I too remember some sort of warning about Dallas somewhere. Hopefully someone will find the comment somewhere.

This is how mediums make money.

Link?

Here is one i Found: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3v8med/remember_the_band_eagles_of_death_metal_from_the/?

Although, I remember seeing "watch out dallas" RIGHT after the Amarillo Shootings..

False memories. People always say this after a tragic event happens but there's never any proof. No screen shoots, no archives, nothing.

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So we're just going to ignore that one reply when he said

"blacks are violet and impulsive but they are not all bad. And they can be for a lack of a better term domesticated. Thomas Sowell has made note of this."

I think that's the tell that it's fake.

craigslisting asking for crisis actors 19 days ago in dallas, if that isnt fake its a big big wtf.

It's fake. Clearly fake in fact.

its real, clearly its real in fact! see i can just say stuff too doesnt mean anything.

maybe its not from a 3 letter agency , but if this really was posted then that shows some one had knowledge of the event ahead of time, hell it may even have been the snipers themselves that posted it.

Lol wait, what?! Do people believe that random people would be trusted with holding that big of a conspiracy/secret. Yeah I'm sure the government goes around interviewing random strangers for roles as crisis actors.

think about who replies to that sort of craigslist ad. then think about what they would do for a relatively large amount of money. then think about how easy they would be to disappear if they did talk.

im not buying in to it being true yet, but the government has done dumber and more brazen things before.

I saw that. It was Houston, but still. Most likely connected to this somehow. I can't believe how the false flags and fake narratives are escalating right now. Shit's getting crazy really fast.

All I know is that a week or two ago, people on different conspiracy forums, including this one, were saying that there was a current ad requesting crisis actors for a drill in Houston, Texas. I didn't see the ad myself, but heard a lot of people talking about it just a week or two ago.

EDIT: I don't understand some of you people on here. Why is this getting down-voted? I mean really, what is so objectionable about this?? Jesus...

i saw it, on its own its not really proof of anything, but it should definitely be looked in to it may have even come from the shooters themselves.

but I honesty don't know what to do or say anymore except for instill thoughts of hope and assurance to others. We can change what is. I know it. You know it.

"Be the change that you wish to see in the world." -- Gandhi

Sorry to post cliches here, but as someone who has been deep into conspiracies for most of my life, I've learned that the only way to maintain sanity in this insane world is to focus on the things you can control.

Gandhi is good for inspirational quotations, but not much else.

The establishment is desperate now to maintain control. People will expose how they manipulate/fake elections and then they will vote them out of power. These scare tactics won't work forever.

He establishment and media want a race war. We know it. They know that we know. They don't care.

Do you know how much money there would be in funding an American civil war?

We want there to be harmony. We just don't know how to go about it because someone isn't taking the reins.

Well, there's the key. YOU take the reins. I take the reins. We all need to take the reins together. It's not about waiting for some "other" to do it. That's why it doesn't get done.

YOU have to do it. I have to do it. We all have to do it.

I've certainly been doing it (practically all my life). Be the change you want to see.

We can all lead.

Damn right. I'm so glad you said this. Couldn't agree more.

We just have to move as one.

Exactly this. Again, couldn't agree more.

I know this seems like a silly response

Not even close. This is the response. This is the answer.

Agenda 21 is real and we are in the starting phases. Prepare for Martial Law, No election, And Americans will be forcefully disarmed. There is a plan for a one world government and it starts now.

Reading the comments on other parts of reddit/youtube -- people are so fucking blind and stupid.

It's clear what the goal of this is.

Long-time Lurker... Created account just for this... I saw the "keep your eye on dallas" it happened right after amarillo.

Here is one i Found: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3v8med/remember_the_band_eagles_of_death_metal_from_the/?

Although, I 99% positive there was a more recent example

What you're thinking about was a post on Craigslist found right after Orlando asking for people some number of people when had carry permits. It was traced back to Dallas, but the job was advertised as being in Orlando.

Check my post history.. I did find something on the matter.. But I specifically remember people saying watch out Dallas.. That's why I was so freaked out when it happened

To me, it's completely insane that some people think they can put these events on television and expect to enrage people to the point that they may actually murder someone. It's pathetic, pitiful, and an insult. It tells you what they really think of the average useless eater.

Although triggering a race war through the media isn't going to bear any fruits, this IS the beginning of an accelerated militarization of police. If a race war won't start, then they'll at least attempt martial law.

I used to think it was a bit batshit to claim Obama would serve a third term, but with the way this is all going, it seems plausible this could be the plan.

Someone on 4chan warned about the attack.

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1467965884209.png

It's all a distraction, these shootings are. Our government is continuously using fear to control us. They need to be stopped, it started getting bad with 9/11 and now it's getting WAY out of hand. Stop letting these people control you. We need to do something about our government.

WE need to form local militias.

In America the people who join militias are exactly the people a false-flag that made you love the police and hate BLM would be most effective on.

I will never understand how the idiots in the sovereign citizens movement are so hateful/paranoid of the government but they will buy an official story hook line and sinker if it's pro military or police! Bunch of morons!!

I would be very hesitant to join any organization that could be framed for terrorism in today's America. Fate worse than death being thrown in a cmu somewhere with a black hood over your head. No trial. No way to speak to your family. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, and this country does it to people all the time!

Now why do you think they use "terrorism" so broadly? JUST SO the general population fears joining and being called a terrorist when the govt are the real perpetrators of world terror, for money. Then, with NDAA and being able to be detained indefinitely and disappeared... Just makes everyone afraid to organize.

It's your right to do that, go ahead and get started. Oh wait you won't because it's all talk behind a keyboard.

You project what you see in yourself onto the world.

Does it make you feel good to confirm how ineffective you feel as a citizen?

I don't have any will to change things so I'm not ineffective but okay. Like I said, get out and do what you strive to do.

I don't have any will to change things

That much is more than obvious.

so I'm not ineffective

Given that you apparently don't understand how degenerate is a mind that doesn't want things to change in a world like this one, I'd say you're far more ineffective than you think. You just apparently don't know it.

Lack of will tends to make you mentally and emotionally indolent like that.

get out and do what you strive to do.

Been doing that.

No you haven't

Okay, little one. Keep telling yourself that. Have nice troll dreams thinking you're doing something w/yourself.

Here's a hint: You're not.

This discussion wasn't about me. It was about you. And the fact that you want to sit behind a keyboard typing big and saying we need to get out and do this but then you don't even take your own advice.

Right.

The world is always three missed meals from anarchy.

Yeah okay.

Bro GTFO if you're just gonna shit on everything. Why are you even here?

Open your fucking eyes.

My eyes are open.

Your eyes are so far open you see what a joke this is. Let them squabble.

Everything is just unicorns and rainbows for you eh? What the hell is it gonna take for you to admit shit needs to change?

What makes you think I don't believe we need change? I'm just not blinded by fantasy like you guys are. You're too afraid to admit the truth so you hide behind conspiracies.

What's the truth? That we all need to take a long hard look at ourselves? I agree.

What would you say? I'm listening. We need discussion, we need every voice heard, and I'd like to hear yours.

You just told me to get the fuck out and asked me why am I even here? Doesn't seem like my voice needs to be heard to you.

Well I thought you were under the impression everything was hunky dory, and only here to demoralize.

I'm listening now, so let me know?

Edit: Sorry if I was a bit impulsive in my accusations, but that's how it seemed to me.

I'm really not interested in having a conversation with you. You need to learn that if you really want people to discuss with you, your second comment shouldn't be an insult because you're too busy assuming things.

I was basing my comment off of your dismissal of others. I apologized. If two random people on the internet can't get over a dumb comment how the hell is anything going to get better?

We all need to have thicker skin.

Edit: Also, a quick look at your most recent comments (sorry) shows me that you and I share a similar vitriol. So, dude. Just tell me what you think needs to happen?

...username checks out

Seriously though it is getting to that point.

An effective and productive revolution must embody the middle-class. I am down, however the majority of my middle-class compatriots walk around with a dick-in-hand mentality.

Suggestions?

Take the dick out of their hand

Until the middle class feels affected by what is going on they have no reason to care

Edit: A home, job, money, family vacations, working cars, privileged, probably retirement security, ect...most middle class people I know do not feel threatened, they welcome more control with open arms....

Or, they take their guns. Although that will play right into the strategy of divide and conquer.

FBI is watching you now

they were watching me anyways....

Yeah but with programs not a scope

The problem is that militias would need to have a common goal. If we have a bunch of small militias who all stand on their own we lose regardless. If we form militias throughout the country all with a common goal, than we have a shot. They are driving the citizens apart as far as they can so that we have no unity in uprising against the corrupt government.

Is militias really the answer? That sounds like it is asking to be put away...any militia would probably portrayed as rebels or terrorists. Could peaceful protests/social media not work?

Nothing works. We will never change

Because civil war is obviously the solution. /s

It's probably the elite not the government. Makes more sense that it's easier to contain information. Like the Koch brothers starting the tea party but acting like it was grass roots. And look how they basically sieged the government. They were tired of bribing politicians so they created their own party. It would be easier to think that a company that can gain from police attacks would orchestrate them. Like the fingerprint guns they want to make mandatory. Super expensive and work crappy under duress. Yet California considered making all handguns require it.

Yes, but what can we do? It seems that more and more people every day are falling into this trap. I feel something bad coming, and I know it's not just because I'm paranoid. We need to prepare, but the government's even trying to damper that.

A Craigslist ad from 18 days ago asking for LEO crisis actors :

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/tlg/5643393268.html Credit to /u/alleks88

I don't know what to think of those craigslist ads I always see in connection to shootings. It seems like it would be easy to fake one.

Agreed. This one in particular looks extremely fake to me. I think it's a red herring and maybe not even an intentional one.

What really strikes me as strange is some of the pics from the San Bernardino shooting of the people being escorted out of the building were smiling. But i just find it weird how civilians would sign up for a crisis actor gig in a real mass shooting and keep quiet about it after.

The date posted is 6/19/2016

"MUST stay in character, must be ok with selling soul to some alphabet agency. Wanna help give hope and change to amerikkka? and you can even get a free lunch! "

Seems legit.

If it did seem legit, then it would make it too obvious to the public... So I would think that they made it like this on purpose to throw it off from being real evidence.

I mean, even if it's not legit... whoever made the post accurately predicted such an event. Right? That's still suspicious.

So?

Someones playing with your head or has a lot of free time...

Oh shit

This is the third most important thing in the world right now, after Obama fake documents and the sufi influence.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/tlg/5672541414.html
https://imgur.com/ETj471C

Also, the way that guy moved to kill the police officer behind the pillar was truly astounding. He either was in ecstasy or highly trained. I'm talking about Vympel grade training here.

Someone should investigate this.

the sufi influence

Sufi influence? What are you talking about? I'm genuinely curious.

There are currently 3 world powers. The globalists, headed by people like Soros; The Russian-Chinese Eurasian block, headed by people like Aleksandr Dugin; Islam, headed by the Muslim Brotherhood.

The sufi influence is just one of the ways that the Muslim Brootherhood can achieve their goal. This influence happens on the most elevated leves of mankind, religion. That means if you are not razor sharp in knowing your tradition, you will not be able to know if you are actually taking part in your religion or Islam.

I myself am not capable of explaining the whole process, but basically you should look for western leaders inside Tariqas. You should also look into the "Traditionalist School" and its people like Frithjof Schuon and René Guénon.

I'm taking a philosophy course with a ex-member of Schuon's Tariqa, so I'm not talking out of my ass here.

highly trained

By the IDF possibly?

More like basic combat training that anyone who's served overseas in a combat role will learn. It's not fucking delta operator training.

I don't think Basic teaches faint rushing attacks.

An airsoft/paintball player might now this, though.

Yeah that's why the have a MOS school specifically for combat roles which will teach this. Kinda like I said in my post.

what did the Orlando Craiglist ad say? - it's been taken down

So you're implying that a vast government conspiracy to sway public opinion has been undone by a Craiglist post?

The cognitive dissonance on this subreddit is absolutely astounding.

Also, the post has all the trademarks of a troll job.

But I'm sure you'll work those into the narrative somehow.

Im not saying anything, just posting what's there for others to form their own opinions.

Whaaaat Da hell? Im so confused...

I have a feeling the cops weren't in on this one.

Flagged for removal... can't even see it... wtf

The police tweeted that a possible suspect put a camo bag in a black Mercedes and sped off.

Black Mercedes? That car doesn't scream "violent activist" to me. That screams "private contractor."

And there are live accounts on Twitter from people that were there saying the shooter got out of a cop car.

Why do you think that means anything? You don't know those people are in Dallas, you don't know that they were near the protest, you don't even know if they're actually in texts. Yet you want to take tweets as facts of something. I can never take anything here seriously because no one is a skeptic you just call yourself that while grabbing onto literally anything that supports your personal narrative.

I do know. People were posting live tweets and videos. I'm not just posting to post.. Just listen and try to hear different perspectives, different experiences sometimes.

Rich civs wouldn't care about this shit so I agree

it could have been stolen.

That's possible. But I also wonder why would you risk driving around in a stolen car in a plot like this? If anything you would want a car the cops aren't already looking for.

Fucking right

While I do agree with you on this, I'm also wondering what kind of car screams "violent activist"?

I saw a car leave at the end of the video showing the cop shot down at point blank. The shooter is across the street from the parking lot the car leaves from and he does not shoot at the car, which is in his sightlines for half a block. The car does not appear to be speeding. Of course, you wouldn't speed away if you were part of the op.

Was a false lead you numb nuts

How did one lone Gunman "triangulate" his fire as reported

He used an intricate pulley system.

what's an "intricate" pulley system. it's literally the most basic of machines.

The pulley itself is simple, yes. But the system! Now that's intricate!

They were using that word in the earliest articles and then just continued to use it as one person can actually do that.

"magic bullet theory"

Just have a read of Lee Harvey Oswalds book - "Single man triangulated firing, magic bullets, and how you can too'.

CNN currently has two headlines on the TV:

"Sources: Suspect was lone gunman"

"Coordinated attack in Dallas"

Never believe what CNN says.

Jeez. They're making it more and more confusing each time. Obviously, it's on purpose, but it goes to show you how far they're going now to protect whatever the real truth is.

I have no idea what's happening. I don't know the truth. Maybe that is what they want.

Fucking repeats. Thought the show was getting good, nah just a sloppy rewrite of the 60s.

Right on time.

By the way, anyone notice what race the shooters are? No? How about thier names? Not that either? How odd.

By now there should be a tv crew bursting into the door of an apartment with identification and arms neatly laid out confirming guilt.

Don't forget the strangely pristine-looking pamphlets/literature that cements ideological motivation.

I think there's very little info out right now because the police weren't in on this one.

I think they were taken by surprise, but they'll still get a huge payoff at the end of the day. More funding, more officers, more weapons, more control.

7/7...

They just released his name. He has a facebook with barely any posts on it, but there's a picture of him and professor griff.

this guy is going to be labled as a black power guy and conspiracy theorist. Here's a video with professor griff talking about false flags... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ_hZA4w0ZU&sns=em

remember that all of the high profile black guys from the UK who are supposedly going to syria to join ISIS are also rappers and conspiracy theorists. remember that the tsaernav brothers also had conspiracy theory hip hop on their facebook pages. this is a theme.

next time can we strap the bomb to a $50.00 remote control hot wheels and send it in, instead of strapped to a $600,000.00 robot?

No, we need to justify our outrageous military and security and Intel budget.

But how else will those equipment companies pad those sweet, sweet profit margins?

that would not siphon much money from the people though.....The robot probably cost 2000$ the rest was distributed for processing fees and permits to use it

Video of cop getting shotgunned here.

that was some advanced tactic; shooting to his left then moving to the right to flank.

holy shit- that guy knew exactly what he was doing. He even pointed his gun down as he came out. That's not something he learned from a video game- that guy's a merc. He's built like a merc and he moves like a professional.

I'm sure the suspects they have in custody don't look anything like this soldier.

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Maybe because police aren't exactly combat seasoned and we don't tend to act as suspected when being shot at.

Advanced tactic? That's like, water fight when we were kids level. Come on.

Yeah playing with water guns vs armed combat. definitely the same thing. really made me think, bro.

Right?! Laser tag or gtfo! But seriously, these guys are pros.

Sorta agree really. I would have done the same... to advance from where your opponent is least expecting.

I don't think if it was my first gun fight I would be calm or collected enough to perform such a maneuver, to be honest

Hold on to this, Twitter is scrubbing it

Take screenshots folks.

Done.

What kind of ammo causes huge sparks on impact with every shot? Never used steel-core myself (heard it's bad for rifling), so maybe that; but I thought it was still jacketed with copper. If it's really a shotgun, I'm still at a loss for what could cause that level of fireworks.

Almost ever isis video has the same thing during close combat. Sparks are not unusual, it's just ricocheting off of metal.

Birdshot? Your shot sprays with these shells so you have a better chance of taking down the bird.

Buckshot. Birdshot is terrible for killing humans. Even close range.

Sorry that is what I meant. Not much into shotguns.

Unless going after water-fowl those are lead and don't spark (that I've ever seen.) I've never seen steel-shot spark, but then again, I've never shot it at concrete. The footage just looked really spurious.

It is hitting the pavement when it sparks. If you don't mind I can show you the same thing in another video in Mexico.

Let's see

Well I thought I could find it but it is on thee internet if you request it from watch r/watchpeopledie im sure they could find it. But this one,just hitting the dirt.

http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/double-execution-point-blank-64649/ NSFW.

Thanks for sharing the link. I'm not convinced that what is shown in that specific example is sparks from the projectile hitting dirt/concrete. It appears to me to be unburned powder exiting the barrel after the projectile has left the barrel. This is not uncommon with larger loads such as shotgun loads.

Yeah, I caught that too. If you look at the footage frame by frame you can see where the lack of sparks seem to hit body. Uhg. Shotgun by small game ammo would not be a good way to go. Prolly like sand in your insides. Thoughts go out to that cops family.

if you have ever looked at how a shotgun shell is made its pretty easy to load whatever you want in place of birdshot, from the level of tactics its not a stretch that they may have made their own ammunition to make it harder to trace.

Definitely no shotgun. The perp didn't have a secondary rifle with him, and you clearly see him taking longer ranged covering fire shots before advancing locations. The sparks seen are most likely just the impact of high speed metal on stone.

What makes you think the shooter is using a shotgun?

I second this. Keep seeing "shotgun" posted in relation to this video. He is clearly carrying an AR style rifle, and literally running combat carbine drills from infantry school on this recording. The recoil looks correct during his shots, as does his shooting stance. He is also engaging targets at distance off camera, not something a shotgun would be suited for.

Who the fuck randomly drove out of that parking lot there? Was this from early on before a perimeter was set up? I see cop cars in the distance as if the area were blockaded already.

For fucks sake....

I there any sort of tracker on active shooter drills? It seems like this happens too often. Could be a very useful tool.

Good question. I don't know.

Just based on a Google search it seems like active shooter drills occur more often in smaller communities. There was one in Providence though on June 30th. I'm curious to see if anything happens there soon.

http://wpri.com/2016/06/30/providence-police-to-engage-in-active-shooter-drill/

This explains the crisis actor craigslist ad then.

Eh that don't mean nothing. My local PD does those every few months. I think that one is just stupid timing or coincidence. My local PD also asks for volunteers to be dead bodies, wounded and etc. The fire department usually ends up cooking food for everyone outside the drill. It's a fun time actually for something that's practice for something terrible happening.

Every lone gunman shooting in the last year had rumors of multiple shooters that got away, and only the "patsy" getting killed and named, did Dallas police just fuck up a false flag ? It was a peaceful protest against an arm of government, the fastest way to deal with a peaceful protest is to turn it violent so local police can return in kind, destroying any legitimate protest in no time

Not disputing any of that, but a majority of shootings get reports of multiple shooters because civilian witnesses don't know how to recognize the difference between the shot and the echo.

there's a lot of disinfo about the suspects. I'm hearing 4 suspects in a mercedes (including a woman.) One dead. two released.

Now it's 3 suspects in custody and 1 dead. Some say suicide. Some say shot by cops. But ABC is reporting:

Police Chief David Brown says a suspect in the overnight attack that killed five police officers, wounded seven others and wounded two civilians said he was upset over the recent police shootings of black men and wanted to kill white people.

Brown said at a news conference Friday that the suspect made the comments before he was killed by an explosive used by police.

That sounds like absolute bullshit. He made a comment and then was killed by a police explosive? what kindof explosives are police using?

Now they saying the shooter said he worked alone... Haha if he were a magician who could be at several places at once

Other suspects might still be at large. "We're hopeful that we have got everybody, but we don't know that for sure," Rawlings told NBC's TODAY.

He said the suspects in custody were "being pretty tight-lipped," but their motives were clear. "It's simple ... they wanted to kill police officers. And sadly, they did."

the police chief is claiming that the suspects in custody have basically admitted to being involved. that's going to look bad when it turns out he's full of shit.

No surprise this happened on 7/7. These mercs love that date.

Care to explain about the date thing?

Interesting thanks

Hmm, didn't even think to check the date this time. I'm guessing the black guy was just a tard who shot a few times and missed, while the real mercs were the ones doing the killing before driving off.

Maybe he was a great shooter like Oswald. /s

Maybe he found some magic bullets in a book depository?

Reports say it was a robot with a bomb.

The police chief did a briefing, they used a robot to bomb him because they were concerned we had bombs placed because he called in saying he had bombs everywhere so they neutralized him as soon as possible because they felt he was the leader

Holy fuck

50 years of false flag attacks right back where it started!!!!

Anyone else want to hear the audio from Micah Johnson's announcements to the police while they had him cornered?

All the news reports are stating that he said he wanted to kill cops, he wanted white people to due, he had bombs all over Dallas. He also stated (oddly?) that he had no ties to terrorist groups and that he was working alone.

It seems convenient that the shooter basically laid out the whole story in his statements to the cops while he was cornered. Why would be provide all these details to the police?

I don't know, I don't wanna jump to any conclusions here, I would just like to hear the audio so I can make my own judgments on this aspect of the situation.

Like another redditor said, it makes as much sense as if the news said he accidentally fell into a volcano

And they still blew him up. I don't believe it.

He was drugged up and left for dead by the real gunman.

Why are they saying snippers if one of the cops was shot point blank on the street ?

The average viewer doesn't know the difference?

That's my big question. Wasn't the standoff with the cops where the guy eventually exploded taking place in a parking garage? We saw this (highly trained) guy on street level.

I swear if they start saying it's a lone gunman I'm going to flip out. But yes. He looked highly trained for a carpenter in the army reserves.

CNN is definitely making it seem like it is a lone gunman. Not even acknowledging that the mayor said they have 3 others in custody and they aren't cooperating.

Just like when they said the Orlando shooting had nothing to do with Terrorist

My friend is in the Army. He works in an Army hospital before that he did standard solider training. Just because you end up doing something non-combat related in the Army doesn't mean that you don't have combat skills.

He moved into the garage some time after he executed the cop.

I was under the impression that he was cornered in the same garage that the shots were fired from. That's the way it seemed when it was going down live. That clears that up a bit though.

Probably because he was using a rifle that was scoped. Most likely it's just a code phrase the police gives people with rifles.

Makes sense ...confuses the public though

Sniper can also be used to refer to someone taking shots from an unknown position, doesn't have to be with a rifle from 600m away, it just means they're in cover and waiting for a target no matter the distance.

Because there's a video of a guy ground level shotgunning a cop, and meanwhile shots going off from over head.

But they just said that there is one shooter ! I'm so tired of this shit.

There was only one. Those "shots going off around them" are the bullet ricochet from their close quarters shots.

When do we go in to this Lone Nut's apartment? I'm sure he left his gun license on the counter and his Black Panther pamphlet nearby

NRA and ISIS registration packet.

Syrian passport.

oh, its right on top of the manifesto linking him to ISIS.

I'm sure the media will be rummaging through it showing all that incriminating evidence.

anyone else notice that the media has called him Micah X. Johnson when usually they will call them by two names or their full three names? I think the X is to emphasize the black militant element subconsciously

Micah and Malcolm are so phonetically similar it's ridiculous. Like Micah X said with the right accent is indistinguishable from Malcolm X. Planned or not I bet the mass media executives started drooling when they realized they could subconciously connect this event in the viewer's minds with one of the most militarized black movements in American history.

Just heard Ismael Dejesus (videographer who witnessed the "execution style shooting") say it was "an AR-15, clear as day." His video and vantage point looked too far and fuzzy to make that assessment.

This one? I'm not an expert but it does sound a lot like AR-15

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjRg1y8csMs

Why are they so against AR-15? Have they not heard that thousands of people have machines that are smaller than a microwave can automatically make them? What could they possibly do to stop people from turning on a machine and pressing a button?

The AR-15 is the most popular sporting rifle because it's easy to use, easy to build, and is easy to configure for different uses, but more than that it represents something. It represents people wanting to protect themselves from the government and other enemies. It represents the whole Constitutionalist mindset that says "come and take it". That is why the media and the government want it to be banned. It's a symbol.

Not to mention the other guns that escape bans against AR15s that are functionally the same. The Mini 14 for example.

something is really fucky with this footage. One second there isn't a police vehicle in sight exactly two seconds later (to the millisecond) their is one, with it's trunk popped and a cop behind it for cover??? WTF....? http://imgur.com/a/1Wt8U

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Am I crazy? http://i.imgur.com/SAdo5J0.gifv

warning slow loading gif, it's frame by frame from the youtube video.

Its from 2 different videos, that are cut together...

Video 1: https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/751318644135649281 Video 2: https://streamable.com/pgpb <--- NFSW

Video 2 shows a policeman killed!! And when he cut the video is from:

I guess I'm missing it, where is the police car with the trunk popped?

It's like those 'witnesses' in the Bataclan, who were standing far away from the alleged shooters, in the darkened hall, but can say for sure that the weapons they were firing were AK-47s...

Gotta distract from Hillary yo.

I posted two weeks ago about a shooting happening in Texas and got downvoted

Sure the fuck did. What was your source at the time?

My weird ass brain.. I really don't know why I felt so certain

I'm the same way, right after Obama speech and saw there were "growing protests" I knew.

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Hey Smokey, any info you would like to share with us? You have some enchanted tarot cards over there?

No.. I just felt it.

May have been random thoughts but if it wasn't... you should keep a log of the out of the ordinary thoughts or feelings you have like that. Would be interesting if you found you have some sort of precognitive ability.

You feeling anything else?

Scared.

Same, it's going to get worse 😔

I think I get the way these ops work now. They send a squad and the ones that end up getting killed/caught become the patsies.

If we were "smart" enough to instigate violent uprisings in the ME (arab spring) to protect/expand our interests, wouldn't another major world power see the benefit of doing so here as well? Destabilizing the populace has all kinds of net benefits for savvy state and non-state actors...and I fear that this could be the first round in a heavyweight bout we are woefully unprepared for.

Are they trying to say it was a loan gunman now?

Yep. Police verify lone gunman. Ridiculous

How could one person be shooting from up high, while also hiding behind pillars and shooting on the ground, while also holding hostages at the El Centro Community College, while also negotiating with officers for hours?

facts are irrelevant, just believe the narrative they offer so you don't need to think.

JFK all over again... Dallas too...

Two blocks from Dealey plaza...

You ever get that feeling of how things just fall into place so well that it makes you go "Woah... too well planned, just how dumb does the Deep State take us for?" I'm wondering if this was done to either A) take the heat off of Comey & Clinton, or B) the Establishment was legitimately in fear of the people actually uprising & starting a Revolution to overthrow the Cabal/Mafia of the Bankers, Military Industrialists, Big Pharma, Lame-Stream-Media Corps, and the Fossil Fuel companies...

I personally feel that this, Orlando, Ferguson, Jade Helm, Sandy Hook etc etc are the results of a continuation of a Vietnam-era operation called the Phoenix Program. William Colby and Ted Shackley of the CIA oversaw a program whereby at least 1800 "suspected VC" were killed every month as part of an effort to destabilize the country and inflict a sense of absolute terror and dread in the Vietnamese people. When Colby returned from Vietnam and became director of the CIA in 1973 I think he imported the program to America and began to create as much fear, division as possible and to create an overwhelming atmosphere of terror and paranoia. For example, many serial killers had ties to that particular era of Vietnam including Arthur Shawcross and Leonard Lake. It's not much of a leap to speculate that perhaps they were unleashed by the Deep State as an experiment in mind control. I believe what we see today is an attempt to create an American insurgency that will give them the excuse to live out their paranoid fantasies of martial law and overt fascism brought on by undercover deathsquads roaming the country.Look at that guy caught in LA with a car full of weaponry on the same weekend as the Pulse shooting, it seems to me like he was a part of a much bigger plan. If you want more info on the serial killer/Phoenix Program connection read Programmed To Kill by Dave McGowan, it's essential to understanding the depth of the American brand of social manipulation.

Thanks so much for the info about 'Programmed To Kill'. Maybe I can buy a copy for my eBook (Kobi eReader).

Wow, I had no idea that the hole went that deep (or deeper). It's kind of sickening to hear that someone who's sole goal was to inflict as much terror/fear/horror onto the Vietnamese went onto becoming the CIA director. Fuck... By any chance did Colby get any "training" from Kissinger? Didn't Kissinger write the book on terror?

I feel kind of sad these past few days... why can't we all learn to love each other, and see what the Deep State is doing to us. Already a few online friends are telling me that they're terrified of going out at night. When I asked why they said that they felt like we were living in a matchbox, and at any moment someone was going to light a match but light it inside the box. I feel that way sometimes... but sometimes I also want to be positive and try not to stress out in front of my family or co-workers or friends. Not many people at work were feeling "chummy".

Okay, good talking to you man. Cheers!

Holy shit, you're not kidding...

An NBC report I just read said they identified one but there were still 4 gunmen http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dallas-Police-Identify-Gunman-in-Dallas-Protest-Shootings-386015971.html

Link has been changed and now supports the lone gunman theory.

One thing is certain: This was not terrorism, no matter how many times the teevee says otherwise. Militarized police were attacked, not civilians.

Someone on twitter said she witnessed a police officer doing all the shooting, but then quickly her twitter account was deleted.
http://imgur.com/qhBFlqi

Wow someone on Twitter said something, very factual.

Reports are that a police vehicle was stolen during the firefight, so that's one explanation.

The other reason her account could have been deleted was that she was posting updates (unwittingly) on police movements and locations.

So NBC is saying it was a lone gunman? This sounds like a cover-up.

Why do you believe something that you have zero evidence of?

Have you identified multiple shooters in the videos?

I know what I initially read and saw. Everything early on said things like, coordinated attack. This does not sound like one person. And reports of snipers up high, but a face to face killing on the ground. Just makes mo sense that is all wiped clear a few hours later.

Initial reports often contain the first eyewitness accounts that are later suppressed. Yes there is tons of evidence of multiple gunmen and it was being reported all night and most of the day. Now suddenly it was just one guy and he's dead, sounds sketchy as fuck.

eyewitness accounts ate notoriously unfaithful, too. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-the-eyes-have-it/

there is 0 evidence besides people narrating their own videos that there are multiple shooters. There is incontrovertible evidence though that cops were returning fire. This gunfire could confuse an eyewitness.

The police were also gathering around one location. With multiple targets, wouldn't the cops like congregate toward multiple areas forming several perimeters.

One perimeter. One shooter caught on video. Yet the hive mind here believes the confused initial reports.

The police were all saying that there was more than one. There had to be more than one given the video evidence: there is a man shooting a cop on the sidewalk at the same time as there was a sniper. There are two videos of this shooting and you can see from multiple angles that it would have been impossible for him to get away to the upper-levels as cop cars are swarming all around the guy he just shot seconds later.

The police were all saying that there was more than one.

So what? They often get it wrong in the initial moments. Like in that recent shooting incident at UCLA where there were reports of multiple shooters, possibly a female.

The rest of your post is speculation at best. And the truth is we do not know for certain where the suspect was taken down.

Just sayin ... there's not one bit of incontrovertible evidence that identifies another shooter that is available at this time.

They often get it wrong in the initial moments. Like in that recent shooting incident at UCLA where there were reports of multiple shooters, possibly a female.

That is what makes me suspicious: time and again we have multiple witnesses who see the same thing and then we are told they were just hallucinating. Yes this can happen, but why does it happen every damn time?

Because if you have 1 shooter and a few dozen officers all firing their guns periodically then it's hard to identify how many malicious shooters there are if you're a half block or further out of view.

What we do know from the videos is that there was 1 perimeter. 1 suspect ID'ed on multiple videos. 1 robot was used to deliver an explosive that neutralized him.

Their job is to identify how many threats there are so that they can have cover. Somehow they were not able to take cover even after hours, doesn't that strike you as odd?

Somehow they were not able to take cover even after hours

I have not seen any evidence that suggests that

The last cop was killed after many hours.

You must have some knowledge about when/where the officers were killed, mind sharing? Are you sure you're not confusing when the last officer was announced dead with when he was fatally shot?

He could have been alive for hours but fatally shot. You could be shot and bleed out over the course of hours, for example.

https://m.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comments/4rsa3u/dallas_cops_shot_during_protest_in_dallas/

11th officer shot at 11 pm 3 hours after the incident started.

Ok you said the last cop was KILLED now you're talking about the last cop was shot.

The last cop was killed after many hours.

So you're already creating a dissonance of events

The last cop was shot, according to your link, 2 hours and not 3 hours after the incident happened.

And at 10.57pm, the time reported in your link, the lone suspect was still alive.

What about this suggests multiple shooters???

The point I was making is that is seemed to take an awfully long time for the cops to get cover, so obviously that refers to the shooting. One explanation of why it would be hard to get cover is because there are more than one shooters, as all the people actually on the scene and the police reported. If that doesn't suggest multiple shooters then what does?

From the link you posted

1:55 - There is a pretty thick fog of war right now. I am holding off on updates because of the numerous conflicting reports. Multiple shooters? Islamic tie in? Sniper or no sniper? It is all speculation at the moment. Please post anything that can be confirmed.

The fact an officer got shot 2 hours into a standoff does not suggest multiple shooters.

Can you come up with another stand-off where this has happened hours in in the past ten years (with just one shooter)? I can't think of one.

Multiple eyewitnesses and police (who are trained in threat recognition) is evidence of multiple shooters. If we do not get evidence from our sensory organs then where does it come from? Is what the FBI says to the press the only thing that is evidence?

Can you come up with another stand-off where this has happened hours in in the past ten years (with just one shooter)? I can't think of one.

An officer was shot days later in pursuit of Dorner during that incident

This is a silly question anyways ... This was the deadliest attack on law enforcement since 2001 as reported by the media. I don't have enough knowledge regarding police standoffs within the last 10 years to answer your question in a way that satisfies either of our points. Can YOU think of a shooting incident that mirrors this one in the last 10 years??

Is it possible an officer was shot hours into a standoff with a lone shooter... sure is. Maybe they were shot by friendly fire even.

If we do not get evidence from our sensory organs then where does it come from?

Massive speculation does not equal evidence. We only have evidence of one suspect firing a weapon. One perimeter that was surrounded and that was the primary focus of law enforcement. And one shooter confirmed dead.

Everything else is speculation without evidence. You can look to the June mass shooting incident at UCLA to see that initial reports are often wrong.

The most obvious thing that I can think of for why people would believe there are multiple shooters in Dallas is the fact that several people including the officers and the lone shooter were exchanging fire and whatever witnesses were assuming that chaos was several shooters.

Kind of like Occams Razor

Occam's (or Ockham's) razor is a principle attributed to the 14th century logician and Franciscan friar William of Ockham. Ockham was the village in the English county of Surrey where he was born. The principle states that "Entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily."

An officer was shot days later in pursuit of Dorner during that incident

That wasn't a stand-off, he just pulled up to a light and had no clue there was danger.

I don't have enough knowledge regarding police standoffs within the last 10 years to answer your question in a way that satisfies either of our points

https://www.google.com/search?q=officer+shot+in+standoff&amp;source=lnt&amp;tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A7%2F7%2F2006%2Ccd_max%3A7%2F1%2F2016&amp;tbm=

I'm looking but I can't find any incidents. Once they have the perimeter up they are pretty damn good at not getting hit. In any case, my entire point is that this is an exceptional incident and you have just agreed with me. Exceptional means unusual, means unlikely, means sort of suspicious that one guy could do so much damage over such a long period of time (if there were more than one shooter that would help explain the exceptional nature of the event).

We only have evidence of one suspect firing a weapon.

Eyewitness accounts are evidence, police accounts are evidence, videos are evidence. That doesn't mean it is impossible there was only one shooter, but the more contrary evidence we find the more unlikely it is.

Kind of like Occams Razor

Ok, you have just shown that you have no clue what O.R. means lol.

... People, including officers, obviously confused police gunfire as there being another shooter.

Anything's possible.

I'm not the only one that thinks the "suspected sniper" was a psy-op right? Or some sort of false flag. Like there's no way it could've been an actual protestor.

On top of that, it just seems too perfect that they bombed the "suspected sniper" so that there can't be any physical evidence. Or that they can plant the "evidence."

I'm not the only one that thinks the "suspected sniper" was a psy-op right?

Nope.

Like there's no way it could've been an actual protestor.

Agreed. Seems that way to me.

On top of that, it just seems too perfect that they bombed the "suspected sniper" so that there can't be any physical evidence.

Yeah. Way too convenient.

Shit's all full of fuckery.

Am I the only one linking this to Jade Helm?? just last year there was training in this very part of the country...

The (mediatic) momentum (just look at the NYTimes online’s ‘front page’) was entirely on the side of the BLM protesters, and then a veritable revolution occurred, a 360-degree shift in the narrative and discursive momentum in a matter of a few hours, perhaps even a few minutes. In what was forming to be a critical moment for the BLM movement, in terms of its revolutionary or, at least, highest propagandistic potential (at both a national level and global level) was almost certainly permanently quashed by the actions of a few, seemingly almost martially-trained, individuals, who, for this exact reason, could simultaneously not but evoke and refer back to the accumulating phylogenesis of decadally recent mass killings and spree shootings in these increasingly Orwellian United States.

So Orlando purchased sympathy for the gays,

this event was designed to purchase sympathy for the BLM terrorists.

Yes, but for what purpose could this reset button on the narrative be? If this is related to the election i'm not sure who it helps... not yet at least.

oh and that's a 180-degree shift I think you mean

I mean 360 degree shift from the position of the status quo, not the BLM movement.

if you meant 360 then it would return back to exactly how it was.

Yes, returned all way back to the establishment status quo, the point of departure.

So you mean back in the momentum for the protesters?

Does anyone else think that someone is trying to start Civil War II in real life? But without superheroes?

Civil and world simultaneously.

george soros is his name, oh.

Real life Winter Soldiers, believe me. That ain't fiction.

But really, it's so easy now. They don't need an actual assassin. Spread enough lies and hate on both sides of the fence, and the people will do it for you without even knowing.

Just what's happening with the whole LGBT issue. Two sides getting heated, and one side sitting back, laughing hysterically.

Yes, I think it's population control by our government. They're trying to trim the population without looking like they're doing it.

Multiple sources claiming more than one shooter, now we have a lone gunman scenario. No explanation from the Police on the sequence of events that lead to so many casualties, just like the Orlando operation.

It's almost like every time something chaotic happens the media gets many facts wrong trying to be the first to report things as they are happening. It happens every single time and you guys always point to it as some sort of elaborate cover up when different information comes out when things have calmed down and people can actually start to piece together what actually happened.

Its a HOAX

Just another placeholder for the "Lone Gunman" crowd...

The chaos started when at least two snipers fired from an elevated position on police officers minutes before 9 p.m. local time (10 p.m. ET), Brown said. He called it an "ambush-style" shooting.

"We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different perches in garages in the downtown area, and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," he told a news conference earlier — noting that some victims were shot in the back.

Other suspects might still be at large. "We're hopeful that we have got everybody, but we don't know that for sure," Rawlings told NBC's TODAY.

He said the suspects in custody were "being pretty tight-lipped," but their motives were clear. "It's simple ... they wanted to kill police officers. And sadly, they did."

what is fake, what is real, no way to know

there are sure fire ways to know.

and none of us have access to those ways.

I have a shovel.

Are they really trying to say it was only one shooter? Who the fuck is buying this shit?

why can't it be 1? 1 person can easily take out a half dozen with proper training, and equipment.

I think though it is possible, there were too many 1st hand accounts of people firing down upon them. Also there is a lot of confusion for hours if there was just 1 gunman.

The news initially reported that there were multiple shooters.

It's like the classic senior prank. Take some chickens and paint numbers on them 1 3 4 5 and release them into the school. They'll spend hours searching for number 2.

Once it's believed there are multiple shooters, they'll run with that story until there's evidence otherwise.

In the initial start of the chaos, the gunfire was so rapid people thought there were multiple shooters. Perhaps people confused police returning fire as being a malicious shooter.

Had to be more than one from the video evidence, you see the one cop get shot on ground level at the same time that there is sniping going on from the upper-stories.

no you cant unless you have evidence otherwise

all we know for certain from the videos available is that there was one shooter.

Wouldn't you suppose it's plausible all the eyewitnesses are confusing the cop's gunfire as another shooter?

Multiple videos show a gunman take a cop out on the sidewalk, maybe ten seconds later cop cars are driving right past the corpse and there are cops everywhere. How the fuck did he get way and continue killing cops all night?

care to share these videos?? I have seen them all and they do not show what you're describing.

And he actually did not get away.... He momentarily eluded police, perhaps for a very brief time span less than 30 minutes and eventually barricaded himself in a building

Ok, this morning I definitely woke up to news reports about multiple snipers in Dallas. Now it was a lone gunman?? Are they really retracting the sniper reports? Need updates from someone other than the bullshit MSM, been at work all day with nothing but NPR.

Came here to say exactly this....what's the scoop guys?!?

Same

I was watching msm during the event last night, and they were interviewing protesters on the street that had been super close to the gunfire. They said elevated positions, as did the initial police reports via msm. Sometimes I think msm is most trustworthy in the first hour or so of an event, they actually report what is seen and heard. I saw the tone change last night once they started getting the official narrative strait.

Yep, I figured it would play out like that, but I didn't think it would be THIS sloppy and obvious. They really don't even give a shit anymore. They know that 90% of America will just swallow whatever the fuck they put on the news, regardless of how blatantly implausible it is. I remember the initial reports saying multiple snipers, and also heard the elevated positions thing. I also remember several people saying that it seemed like a highly-coordinated tactical maneuver. The shooters seemed like professionals. I can't believe how this shit is escalating, all the hoaxes and false flags. It makes me think that TPTB are like initiating some kind of final phase of planning, like they are kicking things into high gear. Where is this all leading??

We have well over 20 videos of this that I have seen. Amazing to me that there were close to none from Orlando. What about the victims of this shooting? It's not insensitive to show these people getting gunned down?

Strange World

This was a protest. Media and bystanders would be more likely to be filming as opposed to Orlando which was just another night out at a club.

Everyone who goes to clubs has their phones.

It's strange that the shooter's name is "Micah X"... seems like a Malcolm X reference. Not sure if it's a made up name or pseudonym or what but it's weird.

His middle name is xavier

Is this the start of the summer of chaos? Everyone should be arming themselves now. If this goes south, it will quickly. I'm no prepper but this was an obviously coordinated attack with a larger goal in mind. Rifles used to kill LEO = LEO acceptance of Obama's confiscation plan. There will likely be more attacks in the next few weeks as he ramps up the false flag attacks to ultimately declare martial law.

Destabilization is much faster than demoralization. We have been in the nilihistic demoralization process for years where we feel nothing ever happens, nothing changes, nothing gets done. Just slow plodding depressive descent into darkness.

Then destabilization comes and it's a slap in the face. By the time people realize what's happening it's already too late to mount a unified defense.

Obligatory Yuri Bezmenov

nothing ever happens, nothing changes, nothing gets done

It was like that in Mexico with the drug war as well. The media was ceonsored when Calderon stepped down, even though more killings were happening after Penanieto took office, but the government forced the media to ignore coverage of it.

Slowly but surely Mexican, who weren't used to drug violence at that level, were basically desensitized to it.

Relevant. With this video being so old, we must have gone past the point of no return. Big brother Gubment is here.

I don't understand arming your self. Do you plan on going to war with the National guard? You surely don't think you stand a chance against a halfway trained/organized enemy like them, right?

I'd say if things hypothetically went to shit and there was mass destabilization maybe you wouldn't be able to fight off the national guard. You might if you organized I guess, but, you would likely need to protect your family and goods if you have them from people that do not have them. Say you have food and other people ads starving, you know? Of course this is further down the line in this type of scenario but I don't think being able to defend yourself is ever bad advice.

Would you shoot a man for stealing from your garden?

No. Of course not. Unless said person decided that my family and I needed to die so they could loot the garden. Or if they tried to come into my home and forcibly and violently take things. I do understand we'd all just be trying to survive at that point.

Not sure what to make of this:

Three people are in custody in relation to a Dallas shooting where four officers died, Fox 4 News reported.

Police said one suspect said, "The end is coming." The suspect then said he was going to hurt more officers and that bombs are planted throughout downtown.

Police said a person of interest, whose picture was circulating by police, has turned himself in. According to reports, a third suspect that was involved in a shootout with Dallas SWAT officers is also in custody.

Two people were taken into custody after a car chase.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/07/2_officers_shot_during_shootin.html

Watch these people who "turned themselves in" end up being used as examples of why the public shouldn't be allowed to carry guns. Watch Texas' open carry laws come under scrutiny. The establishment is scared as hell and desperate to disarm their slaves.

Living in Dallas- safe. Footage here of our Police Chief's latest news conference. The last suspect (4 is what we're hearing) just shot himself, the rest are in custody, we hope.

The press conference said that there was a bunch of other things the suspect said but couldn't say because of the active investigation...I wonder what he said to them?

Something that got Him blown up by a drone.

How do you let a drone to so close it blows you up, shoot the damn thing! IDK...

It was bulletproof.

I'd like some details on how a cop killer survives turning himself in.

Watching CNN, it appears that nearly every witness specifically zeroes in on the fact that the weapons used are AR-15s. From the distances they are at when the videos were taken, I find it difficult to confirm that they are specifically AR-15s, there are many non AR-15 weapons which to an amateur would appear as the scary black gun. Just my observation.

Black guns matter!

'High powered weapons' - POTUS

An AR-15 is well known rifle. Witnesses probably just assumed that the long rifle was an AR.

The thing that makes no sense is that all of this looks like the public displays that the military and police have been practicing around the country as part of their "urban warfare" trainings. An impromptu protest with thousands of people is a perfect training op. Military grade armour says that this op wasnt cheap. That guy was unfazed by the policemans shots. That takes practice. The sparks from the shots looked like squibs from hollywood. And how the fuck did he (they) get from their high position just to use infilitration style attack patterns on the ground so fast....? All those angles in a business district late night...? How many cameras were on the scene? I've seen at least a dozen angles from people in very stationary positions panning and zooming. It looked setup. You never see one camera moving with the peopke running. Not once. Thats not fear....

Reports of several in custody were on Huffpo last night. I saw it with my own eyes. Where is the goddamn journalism?

Interesting that this event also happened in a city that has a police chief who has been making an exemplary policy of deescalation between the police and the public. Complaints about violent police in Dallas have been down 64% since he started this policy making it one of the safest cities. It seems that somebody is trying to sabotage this effort, so that it doesn't spread across the US.

This is typical for this kind of operation, achieving multiple goals at once.

A similar thing happened with the leftist terrorist group "Red Army Faction" in Germany in the 1970s. They kidnapped and killed a banker who was one the most progressive ones at the time. A banker who was trying to improve the banking system for the good of all.

I boggles my mind that we are now being told that this was all done by one person. I would love to see a report describing exactly how one guy carried out an attack like this.

An attack to sweep Comey's responses under the rug?

No, this is something much bigger.

Such as?

  1. It does serve to push Hillary out of the spotlight (again), 2. it serves to fuel the gun control narrative, 3. it further divides America (divide and conquer), 4. it gives excuses for martial law

First create chaos, then create order (New World Order).

its actually "Order from Chaos"

I hear deception is the way they do war. Proven here yet again.

Tensions with police (nationwide), people who genuinely want to peaceful protest will feel unable. Divide and conquer. PS, this is also being blamed on the BLM movement, very clearly, at least over at Drudge. So it will probably destroy it.

This. Strategy of tension for a domestic American populace. Step 1 Identity fracture points (black and LEO tension). Step 2: spectacular acts of violence at key moments Step 3: allow events to unfold

The shock doctrine in action. Government actors are the main beneficiaries of chaos like this. In the next few days their agenda will be clear.

This assessment seems very correct. Unfortunate, but correct.

Didn't I see on here in the last few weeks to expect something to happen in Dallas soon?

A few users have said that Dallas was mentioned somewhere on here but i never saw it myself. Hopefully whoever it was sees this thread.

Song lyrics. Mentioned San Bernardino and Dallas.

Yes. That's what I remember. Song lyrics. Wtf?

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They rode off into the sunset with the additional gunmen from Orlando, the guy running in the woods at Sandy Hook and the guys in San B.

I actually believe this one really happened. There is too much footage. It makes you wonder why there is such little footage with other shootings

I'm with ya Kcarp. I think this was real. They are gonna turn it up to eleven this month. Just wait a few weeks.

Shit's getting pretty close to the fan.

This month is gonna be fucking spectacular!

It's history, brah. This shit right here is history.

It's about to go down!

It's both exciting and scary. If there's a revolution, I hope it's moving in the right direction.

The mayor has said it was a lone gunman? What about the other 3? What about the ones telling the cops there were bombs??

And what about the dude that shot the cop on the ground running behind a column to shoot him, while there was an active shooter in a building.

We saw the footage

Vacation.

Micah X sounds very close to Malcolm X. Makes me wonder if the government was trying to pull one over on us and they constructed this

They've just made a new martyr.

I think the real purpose of these attacks was to get Americans to accept police killings by robot.

Killing a suspect with a bomb attached to a robot will quickly turn into killing suspects from the air with drones, just as we are doing abroad.

It's certainly been an event to push the envelope and reinforce submission to police authority.

Killing a suspect with a bomb attached to a robot will quickly turn into killing suspects from the air with drones, just as we are doing abroad.

And suspects will be "terrorists" and "potential terrorists", i.e. "conspiracy theorists", investigative journalists, preppers, second amendment people and anyone else questioning the government or the official narrative.

I'm not condemning the BLM movement, but I've see a few rumors regarding Deray McKesson being a plant in the movement in order to stir up unrest. George Soros has already pumped something like $33 million into the movement and has a track record of benefiting when countries go into chaos.

Something interesting that I saw was this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Deir_in_DC/status/752544848448745473/photo/1

If you go to the White House visitor log, McKesson has visited many times. Now he's an activist and has high level connections, but it seems a little suspicious.

Do you guys think that this is some kind of small rogue pocket of our government, or is it something that is more widespread? Like, how much does Obama know about these false flags and hoaxes? Just wanting some opinions. It's so hard to know how this shit works on the inside. We have one of the least transparent governments in history.

I think anyone who's been in Washington long enough understands that the ends justify the means, and the means are controlling public opinion to execute the agenda of the wealthy. It's not rogue but it is covert. This should be considered successful operation of the government. Quite a lot of our governing is extra-governmental, policy gets created by think tanks, military operations are sold to private firms, the two parties themselves are nongovernmental institutions....so there may have been very little participation by elected and appointed officials, it may have come from those who govern our government.

Yeah, that sounds about right. Crazy how differently the government really works from how you grow up thinking it works. What I wouldn't give to be a fly-on-the-wall when some of this stuff gets discussed, and to actually know the specifics of who calls the shots, who plans the shit, who the actual top dogs are. You hear so many different theories, like it's the Zionist lobby, it's the banking elite, it's the Anglo-American connection, the military-industrial complex, etc. I'm guessing that there is a little bit of truth to all of that, those groups all having more or less common goals.

I figure its a Western triad of nations, peppered with outlying dynastic families of wealth and leading corporations, which use America as their hired muscle and benefit from America being seen as the evil world power antagonizing Islamic extremists. Just look at who benefits the most from our foreign policy and you're on the right path, surely it's more nuanced than that but it doesn't really matter if our leadership are aware they're being played and still have their own agenda. All that matters is whose society deteriorates/grows and whose power wanes/waxes. America is airtight and still thinks she's directing the show.

Where did the front page live stream go?

They never had one

Uh yeah they did you tool bag

https://www.reddit.com/live/x7xfgo3k9jp7/

Uh it wasn't stickied to the front of /r/all like all of the other "live" threads there shitpiece.

It was for a little bit, boner breath.

I was on reddit last night while it was a live, fluid situation. At no point did I see a live thread stickied to the top the way I did with Paris, for example, fart sniffer

Just a giant distraction. We all need to be put in our place and they do it with fear.

What about this? From CNN news. Dude calls them actors. Doesnt make sense to me that anyone would confuse "actors" with "shooters", "victims" etc..... Watch while you can because it's getting removed left, right, and centre. http://youtu.be/GFn55E9YWJk

To be fair, he could be using the other definition of "actor" which is totally appropriate in this context, although kind of an odd choice of words, I admit: "Actor 2. One who takes part; a participant"

Very true. I did not think of that. I agree it's an odd choice of words.

it's not an odd choice if your job is to muddy the waters

Actors: people involved in the act. Meaning how many people were actively shooting.

Why are people so surprised if some men decided to do something in protest of innocent killings? The problem with this sub is everyone is so quick to assume that IT MUST BE A FALSE FLAG. Why not try to gather all the info we can instead of immediately knowing that something strange is going on? I said yesterday to everyone I know I bet some stuff is about to go down. There were riots of Michael Brown who attacked a cop. These two black men in these videos were pretty much blown away, from what I can see. To not expected backlash would be incredibly naive.

At what point do people start taking this seriously? There will never be a come clean moment where the powers that be put it all on the table for everyone to see. If that's what you're waiting for it'll never happen. What will it take? Will it take martial law being declared in America? You know if that happens there will be some sort of narrative to go with it. You will never get a clear cut confession. Even when we have had confessions from declassified materials etc people still want to carry on believing everything is fine. That's why the world needs places like this. Places where suspicious minds can collaborate. I'm not saying we should go freak out the general population but if people can't discuss this here at r/conspiracy where do you suggest we talk?

If what we're being shown is true, and is just happening because the criminal justice system in this country is absolutely dysfunctional, then I would welcome martial law with open arms. The military are far more trustworthy than most law enforcement agencies.

What if I told you they all have the same boss.

Maybe so. But the military takes their constitution and rules pretty seriously, remember, they pledge to defend the constitution, from all enemies, foreign and domestic. I trust them more than all politicians or cops.

Chain of command. Military personnel are entirely indoctrinated. I don't mean to imply negative connotations as there is no other way. That said if we assume this is some sort of coup in order to instate martial law then we can only assume "they" are in control of the military. We would have to question the motives of whoever was in control. It is not a soldiers place to question orders.

I've read enough to know the military often act outside of the law and it is unquestionable that they are willing to kill innocent civilians. I very much doubt the American military would comfortably kill American civilians openly on American soil so in that respect I see your point and agree however I believe if martial law were to be instated I doubt the military would be working primarily for the good of the people and to protect the constitution. They would follow orders to the best of their ability.

Absolutely right. I guess the scenario I'm talking about would be along the lines of the military taking over policing, with the same strict rules of engagement they are accustomed to be working under. I agree that as this point, nothing is certain and almost no governmental body can be trusted.

No argument about military lawlessness, it can and does happen.

Maybe they are so used to black people not doing anything (burning a few buildings in your own neighbor isn't that effective), they figured they would still not retaliate

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Doesn't mean this is a conspiracy. Most likely it's just the usual incompetent retardation that goes on in the mass media. They just give a shit about their headlines and views. That's why they use big scary words.

No. They said this was from his passport. Another excuse?

You're missing the part about the media even giving a shit about a cop killing someone. Why? It happens often and only the rarely gets picked up by the mainstream media. And when it does, we always have some event to follow.

Just think about how shitty the mainstream media had been this election cycle. They push forward their agendas, they slander and lie, they choose favorites, and are bought and paid for by wealthy people.

All of a sudden, we forget that because we are so drawn to police violence and chaos? They set the stage early. Then later on, out of the blue, a sophisticated attack takes place during a protest designed to address the killings that took place in the morning?

It's a difficult pill to swallow. I don't know how you can simply say backlash should be expected when the catalyst for the backlash was driven by mainstream media and the actual backlash was well coordinated within hours.

Still as of noon Friday still hearing multiple snipers and lone gunman. Which is it?!!

The guy that died said he did it by himself(obviously impossible), i think hes just covering ass for the other people involved. just my two cents.

I think it's more likely he never said anything at all.

This is fucking stupid! Im tired of playing the guessing game with these events!

Anyone else find the timing interesting? The day that Comey admits that Hillary knowing released classified information to people without clearance.

Old gaurd up to their old tricks?

Not really the Hillary email scandal is the most benign scandal maybe ever.

There is no need to take the publics attention somewhere else.

Did anyone else see this one? It's the situation where the cop is shot but from another angle. Another cop (I presume) walks down the road parallel to the front of the building right after the first cop is shot. https://streamable.com/tbs4

yeah, this is weird. I actually don't even see the shooter from the other rooftop vids in this one. Seems to be the same exchange. Can't see the second cop walking up in the rooftop vids as well.

You can scrub through it manually and the shooter becomes apparent. His clothing blends in, especially with the crappy res.

Also the longer version of the rooftop shows what looks like other cops around the corner and to my eyes, near the end one dragging another away. If details of fatalities/injuries are ever released it'll be interesting to see what went on. It looks like several cops were hit here.

You can see him briefly, just look for when the sparks fly. As far as the person walking by I almost wonder if it was some doped out homeless person wandering around because if it was a cop he definitely wouldn't have been so calm.

I cant believe how relaxed that one cop looks while his partners getting gunned down, not looking for cover or anything.

Last major headline was about Hillary Clinton e_e

It's just like the film candyman

If a news anchor says Hillary Clinton 5 times in a row, get ready for some shit.

I love how all this just so happened to go down right after Hillary's email investigation. Its they're way of distracting us. Idk how people can be so dumb. The government is trying to separate us all from each other so no one can unify and stop them it's disgusting. If theyre really is ppl out there trying to make a difference for the better please act now before its to late

Help get it started. What do we have to do to get this going?

I just happened to click over to r/news. I had to double check that I was in the right subreddit because it seemed more apt to be called r/copsarebeingshoteverywhere.

Here's the thing. Isn't the historical purpose of the American right to bear arms rooted in the power of citizens to confront their government if it becomes corrupt? Haven't there been major stories recently about police corruption (eg. NYPD)? So is this American patriotism or American terrorism? The lines do blur.

The thing about gun control -- at least one aspect of it, is that if you take away the people's guns, then the authorities don't have a very good excuse for carrying and using their guns. It's all part of disease.

gun control

criminals do not observe laws, they will carry and use, no matter what law abiding citizens do.

the people that gun control affects, are law abiding victims, and the random crazy that likley will not be able to get a gun.

nice people will suffer, criminals and crazies will find a way.

yes, in that sense, it's unrealistic to try to bubble wrap our world. there isn't going to be total security and safety. but, there never was.

Government may have been behind this, but Trump could easily have had a hand in this event as well. Think of how easy it would be for him to engineer something like this, and how much he could profit from arranging and knowing who gets attacked and when.

  1. Find a brooding unstable patsy with military training to be your shooter. Maybe someone who has already been investigated and cleared by the FBI.
  2. Have your operative pretend to be a with a shadowy new arm of BML
  3. Manufacture stressful conditions in your patsy's personal life to help push him over the edge.
  4. Be there for him and feed him information about where and how to do the attack, to get his revenge.
  5. Have your prescient tweets and perfectly crafted post-shooting facebook response speech and ready to go.
  6. Subtly accuse your opponent of somehow being behind the shooting as a distraction.

Obviously, I know nothing. I've never posted in this sub before, and I'm not even the type of person who is prone to conspiracy theories. But Trump's (and The_Donald's) incredibly fast and organized response to Orlando first led me to think about how easy it would be for someone to arrange this, how much Trump has to gain from it, and how indicative his recklessness is of a capacity for something like this.

Trump's well-rehearsed teleprompter fed response on facebook brought me here to see if anyone else was thinking the same. His thoughtful poised response to this event--in sharp contrast to his typical ranting--seems very clearly to have been crafted before the shootings took place, and shows him to be deeply profiting from this terrible event.

Upvoted. Sadly, you're getting a lot of downvotes since this sub is head over heels in love with Trump. Seeing as he's "anti establishment". (I guess that's why he donates to Hillary, and is endorsed by Cheney and Rumsfeld. And it's probably why he has Goldman Sachs people on his staff.)

Thanks. Yeah, maybe I should not be surprised, but it's pretty shocking that a thread about open discussion of conspiracy theories in a sub about conspiracy theories seems to not be open to discussing a conspiracy theory.

He has nothing to gain from this. Your instincts are incorrect.

He gains from American fear. You can't tell me that's not true.

Your instincts are incorrect.

It's been known to happen every now and then. I had to stop investing in stocks because I kept selling just before my picks took off. But the thing is, I actually had the right picks; my problem was that I didn't trust my hunches, and I paid dearly for that.

It's not at all clear to me that my intuition is mistaken about this, and it's certainly not clear that Trump has nothing to gain by engineering these attacks. Any terrorism on US soil makes Trump look like a genius and gives him an opportunity to be an avenging angel, and that's a pretty big gain for someone who is neither a genius nor an angel. His heavily scripted and carefully crafted Facebook video response that just spontaneously appeared yesterday currently has 8.5 million views.

You should read about the efficient market hypothesis. Weak, semi strong and strong.

He wouldn't be able to fucking have a meeting with A VERY prof looking ex soldier, wihtout CIA/NSA/FBI knowing it. CIA/NSA/FBI has they fingers in every thing in United States.

FBI have rats in every groups which could have the slightest interest of terror.

CIA/NSA can do wtf they want in USA. But if some else trying to do shit in they ground, they will expose it.

CIA/NSA/FBI has they fingers in every thing in United States.

There is no such person as CIA/NSA/FBI keeping tabs on people fucks sake. It's true that they are potentially powerful and dangerous, but so is a tsunami and a tsunami is stupid as fuck. For the most part those agencies are big fat stupid ineffectual government programs designed just to make people feel safer.
The greatest threat they will ever pose will only be realised if some shamelessly narcissistic unprincipled nimble-navigator should ever get elected.

This honestly scares the crap out of me. Been following all these events for a while now and I am convinced a race war is being incited followed by Martial Law and the disarming of America. Friends call me crazy but everything i read is pointing to it. Just the way this went down, how the shooter was blown up, how nobody saw the shooter, how the shooter was supposedly screaming "I want to kill white officers" during the standoff. Everything about this points to false flag.

Everything going on right now has me really thinking about the FEMA camp conspiracy theory. So fucking scary and things are panning out exactly how some have predicted. NWO is real and im scared this is the official beginning. Could an American Holocaust really happen?

Shit is goin' down definitely.

If you fear, you play right into their hands.

Use critical thinking and try not to let emotion blind you.

It's going to be fucking spectacular!

ive always viewed folks who collect supplies in case of something like this as crazy folks, yet here i am contemplating doing the same.

Even Alan Greenspan is predicting an economical collapse of biblical proportions even worse than Venezuela currently. Whether i trust him or not idk, probably not. But i didnt know of him to predict failure, i always thought he was that guy that says the system is working.

Yeah he's retired so if it collapses it isn't his head on a pike.

I'm actually excited--this month alone will be the shit. Remember how about 6-8 months ago we were having false flags about once a month? San Bernardino, Paris, Brussels, now Orlando, Dallas--almost everyday. Load up on bud, for sure.

It's just about guns. Chill. They want to get guns under lock down so we can't storm their mansions when water and food become more precious than gold. Everything's going to be fine. Until we starve. But before that, no need for camps.

What is NWO?

YouTube George bush nwo. This has been going on for way over two decades.

Summer of chaos. Time to turn over your guns

Fuck that. I don't even have any guns and I'm saying fuck that.

https://gyazo.com/b803fa9109c85b771412868314c854c2.png - the usual anon 4Chan warning of attacks before they happen.

The attacks happened on 7/7, not very good at predicting things are they?

That timestamp is shortly after 12am on the 8th. Depending on origin it could have been before the event. Could have been... Maybe...

No it was going on last night CST. It was 7/7

Yeah it was going on then, but the timestamp for the post is dependent on the location source of the person who screen shotted it.

Any thing else going on with this thread....?

If you look on Micah Johnsons Facebook page and his likes, you see several Anonymous sites he likes.
So maybe it was indeed him

I keep seeing conflicting comments: are there people in custody or not?

There were multiple reports of people in custody. But down the rabbit hole it goes.

This is nuts. Thanks.

You got that shit right. I'm to the point that I don't even know what to think or believe any more.

I would think if they were released and felt unjustly detained they'd be loud and out about it.

I simple brought up the idea that this could have been done to sway public opinion and I've become public enemy number 1 on my Twitter feed. Called crazy and met with 100% disbelief. Amazing how these idiots apparently know with absolute certainty that what I'm suggesting is not the case. So damn certain of what they know in a era highlighted by information wars and the spreading of disinformation. I even admitted I couldn't prove my hypothesis was true.

To admit the possibility would be to acknowledge that their own government could as easily kill them at any time, for no reason. This leap is too much for most people, and explains why parts of history are hard for them to accept.

There is a strong chance that they believe in the just world hypothesis. Both popular media and religion reinforce it well. In these, how often does the "bad guy" win?

Rule 38 (The 48 Rules of Power) explains their reaction well:

Think as you like but Behave like others If you make a show of going against the times, flaunting your unconventional ideas and unorthodox ways, people will think that you only want attention and that you look down upon them. They will find a way to punish you for making them feel inferior. It is far safer to blend in and nurture the common touch. Share your originality only with tolerant friends and those who are sure to appreciate your uniqueness.

Yeah, I learned during sandy hook not to suggest conspiracy on my social media. This shows you how effective false flags can be....by simply making somebody feel sad, scared, angry, etc, you can have a story that's full of holes and makes no sense. Those who question it will be called insensitive to the dead. Also, it's very scary for most people to seriously consider the ramifications of a false flag....turns their whole belief system upside down. Also, I have no idea what happened but my starting place is always to distrust the msm.

Okay, what happened to the female suspect that they allegedly exchanged gunfire with and arrested??

The MSM is now reporting it as a lone gunman story.

Has to be a coincidence but London Bombing happened on 7/7. (Also curious how 7/7 is both the US and EU + way of expressing that date.)

Numerologists are loving it.

Christine Lagarde is loving it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36752603 "Dallas shooting suspect Micah Johnson 'acted alone'"

Pay attention, folks: this is how conspiracy theories are born!

What happened to the 3 other snipers that were arrested and not cooperating?

They went back to the CIA headquarters.

Lewisville TX, less than 30 minutes from Dallas, houses the 345th Tactical Psychological Operations Company.

I have stated before that each of the mass shootings since Aurora CO, have taken place less than an hour from a Psyop company.

False flag, no doubt. And it's working. Everybody at the job is either on one side or the other. Divided. Oh, the poor cops, they say. My question when any of these false flags or hoaxes take place is "who is the beneficiary?" Who is to gain? Hillary is out of the headlines. I get it, but is that all? What was the thing when the TPP might have been brought up? Was that the San Bernadino thing? Im asking, don't judge me. I'm on my one day off.

How did this turn from "multiple shooters using triangulated gunfire", to lone shooter? What would be interesting to know is the sequence of the shootings. Were there gunshots from sniping distance, then close range, then sniping distance? Or was it all sniping distance, then close range? The police were very quick to try and distract everyone by asking them to look out for the guy in a camo singlet open carrying - of course, after he was found innocent, they didn't publish their mistake so his name could be cleared.

Because he had magic military training that made him superhuman. Signed S. Hill.

Anybody talking about the use of the bomb robot to kill the guy before a trial?

false flag operation? do the police really have the suspects they want?

It doesn't matter. They just want to grab somebody. It's never about having the "right guy." It's always just been about getting somebody. Just think of how many people are wrongly imprisoned in the US. Especially blacks.

Pretty much.

Americans are so deluded it's ridiculous.

It doesn't seem like. Supposedly they all "turned themselves in" or were somehow taken alive. I have a feeling they're going to try to convince the American public to give up their guns.

Does anyone know when the march was planned or announced?

I was watching the news coverage with a marine who's first words out of his mouth when he saw the cop get killed were "that guy has been trained" this is conning from a guy who thinks conspiracies are crazy.

March was planned Wednesday.

It always seems like these shooters act as if they're military. But this time one really was. Are They stepping up there game now?

The shooter we have been given the name of did a tour in Afganistan, also, there isnt anything online yet, but i live in the area and we have another active shooter, in Fort Worth at a grocery store

we have another active shooter, in Fort Worth at a grocery store

Interesting. That's where Ken from www.redefininggod.com lives ...

(I realize it's a big city though.)

Killer psychopaths coming back from tours in Afghanistan or Iraq. Some continue as killers with badges. Others don't care about the badge and kill anyway. Sorry for the loss but it's time for America to wake the fuck up.

We are awake. Our leaders are either asleep or on the take.

Sorry if I'm late to the party. I do have some questions. Originally I thought I heard about three or so shooters, now just one? Did the guy's driver license really survive the explosion? I'm not saying people didn't die, but is this a false flag? Provocateurs from the govt.?

It really happened. The story got out before "they" could get their agenda/story figured out. Passports can survive a plane hitting a building so why not a drivers license?

were you being sarcastic about that last sentence?

Yes I was....I do not believe it was raining passports on 9/11. It was either a b.s. story or they were planted.

What he said.. Could be true.. Paper flies when it's part of explosion.. The intentional hijacking and crash into the ground of a commuter plane in the 70s by a disgruntled employee.. He wrote his manifesto on paper because he knew that when it cr-shed, the paper would escape . And that plane hit the ground so fast it broke the sound barrier

Not saying it is or isn't a false flag, but AFAIK there hasn't been any info released on how they identified the suspect. Also, a bomb/explosive device doesn't always mean that someone is turned into a completely unrecognizable pile of mush to be lethal. The rapid compression from the concussive force of the blast can rupture organs, blood vessels and cause lots of internal mess to all the squishy bits to be lethal even without having enough pressure to cause dismemberment or have shrapnel running through you. Considering the explosive didn't necessarily cause massive amounts of collateral damage to the point where logically everything would be utterly vaporized, I think it's safe to say that plausibly, yes, a small piece of plastic could survive. That doesn't mean they didn't have other methods of identification too.

Another False Flag

so my question is why aren't we getting any reports on identities of people in custody yet? It always seems like they know who the shooter is within a few hours of the incident.

Because it's a continuing investigation. Releasing the names of the arrested people might affect the rest of the investigation. Right now, police are probably looking at the suspect's friends, acquaintances, even social media stuff is valid. They'll prob release the names once they've gathered all the info the could first.

They were REALLY quick to plaster the Black guys face though. I can't believe that you believe this.

I'm curious to see if it's these evil "Constitution Patriots" they warn us about. That should validate their gun confiscation agenda with the low IQ, hash tagging public. This story is about to get weird.

muslim & manifesto linking to ISIS in 3,..... 2,.....

People have ID on them. You don't want to get pulled over and sent to jail before you get to your shootout do you?

Also the other people are like that black guy that had an AR but turned it over to the cops right when the shooting started.

Just released the name of the dead attacker as Micah Johnson.

I am also reading the he was killed by a police robot dropping off a bomb near him.

so one out of the supposed 4 people that participated is enough for you?

That is a stupid question

ITT: Shills and Disinfo Agents

I atleast want them to acknowledge where these 3 other suspects went over night. I knew the news was shit but to have lone wolf in the headline and then list 3 other suspects who have been detained just seems sloppy. I'm sure in time the 3 suspects will dissolve away and no one will mention them again.

Seems to be the norm in every one of these things. Multiple gunmen, turns into one dead (or insane/under wraps) one really fast.

This one is more mind blowing than the usual ones. Millions of people were watching cops chase multiple gunmen on live tv.

This one was real, the story got out before they could control it and we happened to have live coverage of it.

How bad does it suck that we are both here referring to "one of these" and "the usual ones". Fucked up.

Where is all the video though?

What's up with these two guys that were marching and armed? All of the sudden they are plastered on cable news. It kind of blurs out this theory. Blurred intentionally? Also, does anyone notice his last name? And now the Homeland Security Secretary, another Johnson, is speaking out. This is definitely a media cover-up/distraction of Clinton's e-mail scandal, as well a keyword diversion of Gary Johnson.

I haven't seen the two marching, do you have a link?

Another psy op HOAX. Can we actually confirm any of the victims? The same old story. We have a lone shooter BLOWN up with no evidence. Priceless.

Are you kidding ?

Do you really think the whole fucking Dallas police force is in on this? That would be impossible to cover up

ITT speculators and misinformed reactionaries

We only have video evidence identifying 1 shooter. We have several videos showing witnesses likely confusing police return fire as incoming active shooter fire. Police set up one perimeter for 1 shooter. After that 1 shooter was confirmed dead, the police escorted numerous people trapped in nearby buildings. If they ID'ed multiple shooters they would've had multiple perimeters, the helicopters would not of stopped flying over head until all shooters were down or captured, and the folks trapped in buildings would've remained in lock down.

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Absolutely. The BLM movement was gaining some serious momentum and the timing of this is too convenient. What is really distressing to me is how well it worked - I feel like support from white allies for BLM has really disappeared, and now everyone is in the AllLiveMatter camp, which completely disregards the dangers and prejudice that black persons have to face everyday. I've just been really depressed seeing this story develop and how it clearly doesn't add up, that those officers died for some agenda that's being covered up.

I don't think any officers died.

So those officers just abandoned their lives and families and went into hiding to help the new world order start a race war?

Which officers specifically? I haven't seen anything from their families. Have you?

The families were just at a fake vigil last night. Maybe you could have gone there and met them and told them what bad actors they are. You could still go to their fake funerals and spit on their graves.

no need to be rude. spitting wouldn't reveal nearly as much as shovels might. so no interviews with relatives ok.

We don't even have a body.. Just pieces

just a photo even. doesn't look so convincing either.

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The truth about all of these shootings is they were faked. As in hoaxed.

How do you know this? Got links and your take on them?

See this comment of mine in a different thread: https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4rt4hj/about_dallas/d57mqvt

Where are the other "tight lipped" suspects? No more mention of the camo bag or black Mercedes?

Camo bag Mercedes guy was arrested and released. He was not involved.

Why wasn't he shot at then?

Shot at by who? He wasn't a cop. Only cops were being shot at.

What about the woman that was supposedly taken into custody?

They took a bunch of people into custody who were suspects. This is common in any investigation. They were all cleared of any wrongdoing.

Rough to watch that

IS GEORGE SOROS RESPONSIBLE

of course.

the next civil war is long overdue. let it happen, (let it be) , everyone needs it, even if you don't want it.

one can only hope, that the rich and geo-politically powerful don't necessarily win this time around.

we need to form local militias. We need to organize and we need local leaders.

Agree with you completely!!

Don't forget all the bombings and shootings in other counties . Imagine a civil war at home and a world war across the ocean

Only hope, yes. Nothing more. The 'rich' and 'geo-politically powerful' tend to usually be the winners of this sort of thing.

The way the suspect manoeuvers his weapon, how his feet are evenly spaced as he moves, this person has had CQC training. He uses cover, stays calm under fire & fires back without hesitation. This is no amateur, he has combat experience, he fires two rounds running from cover forcing the PO to take cover, flanks him, moves in & closes the gap for the kill shot. Well executed attack (no pun intended)

That was really striking to me too. They say Micah Johnson was just on construction duty though

He did 9 months combat Iraq or Afghanistan, he may have been clearing buildings depending on what was going on. Not only grunts do the fighting, they may have all sorts of different people playing grunt at times. But as a former grunt, in the active Army during peacetime only, I can tell you that I feel like all those basic fire and maneuver skills are still right there for me. I'm not in nearly as good condition, but I can damn sure still fire a weapon with great accuracy, use cover and concealment and perform fire and maneuver if need be. I just wouldn't discount his military experience.

The guy was an x army reserve

This was just released by Dallas PD: (12 officers discharged weapons, etc)

http://imgur.com/cd4fSSh

Didn't read all the comments but anyone else thinking marshall law propoganda?

Anyone know what happened to the other individuals taken into custody last night? If I remember correctly there was talk of an suv , bags, and two women?

They were released this morning.

That's not what I was referring too. I'm talking about the suspects that were taken into custody and not cooperating with authorities. now we don't hear a peep about/from this individuals, what's up with that?

I heard the Chief saying during the press conference that this guy, and the two other suspects were released. But yeah I have not heard from those people released except the AR15 guy.

Source?

It's just something I saw on the news. They interviewed the guy with the AR15. Here's an article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/08/during-deadly-dallas-shooting-confusion-swirled-around-armed-man-carrying-a-rifle/

Making a new post just so more people can see this link

Interesting- Hard to tell what's going on with all the shakiness.

I hadn't seen the second angle from the ground before.

I too find it hard to tell what's going on but it does look like there is a discrepancy. Wouldn't be willing to place a bet on it.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/friend-dallas-shooting-suspect-micah-johnson-recalls-good/story?id=40488457

Interesting stuff in this article. Says he never saw combat in the Army. Seems odd to me that a guy who never saw combat could be so cool calm and collected while performing all that fancy shooting and evading. Could someone really do that with just training alone? I personally find it fishy.

I read someplace be learned the combat stuff in an area self defense school. I'm going to try to remember where I read it, it was msm. So you know those places women go to Learn to punch in the nuts and elbow? They have one that teaches you how to "play" combat should the need arise.

Man in Camouflage Taken into Police Custody in Dallas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obd1kRgF3Y0

https://twitter.com/dallasnewsphoto/status/751235966505881600

As the shooting is happening the "suspect" that is on every major news is walking away from the shooting. He's on the opposite side of where the active shooters are . (He's wearing camo) another botched attack by the CIA .

The police never considered him a suspect. He was a random guy open-carrying who gave his weapon to police when shit popped off to avoid any confusion. Witnesses and his brother corroborated this.

He was being called a suspect all over the news and they were asking the public's help to find him. Dallas PD were the first ones to release an image of him and claim him as a suspect, I didn't .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JxkwVZnKwY

The image on the left on CNN is the first image released minutes after the first shot and that was provided by Dallas Police Department. Of course now we know he shouldn't be a suspect that's why he turned himself in.

reporter: "why did he bring a gun to a peaceful protest?"

Bro: "the same reason that across the country other people bring their guns because that is his right."

Well said man. Well said.

lol maybe because he was worried some one might start shooting at him... fairly justifiable at this point isn't it.

You are right. Thank you. I don't know why I said it that way.

They did consider him a suspect that's why his friends had to corroborate that he wasn't

The poor guy, I'm glad he didn't get shot. The police should let him take some of their seized swag on his way out of the station.

That looks like police recovering one of their own from the protest. Notice how gentle they are with him after he's pulled across the tape. A real suspect would have had at least 3 knees on his spine the second he touched the ground.

And its.... gone....

I feel like this may be a false flag attack. The general consensus here shows that this was too well planned for it to not be a false flag.

Also, the three individuals apprehended are very likely to be sentenced to death, especially since it took place in Texas.

Edit: I just got confirmation that the shooter is ex-military. That now explains a lot.

Nope, just a crazy lone gunman thats dead. Case closed. No need for a Q&A. In other news...

3 individuals have been released

Obama did just speak from Poland...crazy to hear Pres live at 2:35am.

He cited "high-powered" firearms & he'll have more to say as more facts roll in, but now is time for the families.

In b4 the 'firearm' legislation is going to be some amalgamation of the 5 officers' names.

Last week Jesse Williams, and this week two police shootings and Dallas in one week. Can we get it over with already or are we waiting for Trumps victory? This should make for some great YouTube videos. Imagine if camera phones and widespread access to wireless technology were available during the LA Riots in 1992. The amount of content and data that could be collected in regards to human emotions, actions as a group and individuals will be priceless.

Anyone search for micah xavier johnson? Found a vine. Looks like his instagram was deleted and twitter is locked.

Is this the Instagram with 284k followers but only one post 🤔

Apparently the shooter was in the military.

Pressing heavy on this issue. Shaping the "veterans are suspect" narrative?

How is with your police in the USA. can they be the Judge, Jury and Executioner and deliberately kill a suspect remotely with a bomb after they have him cornered?

They were engaged in a fire fight with him, he claimed to have bombs and wanted to kill a lot of people.

The cops were supposed to just ignore him I guess then?

How exactly did they communicate that while shooting at each other?

I know what the context was.

I just can't believe that the cops have this option and that this is legal.

It isn't.

Did you ever see, The Running Man?

Some crazy JFK similarities

The thing that sickens me is the fact that there are millions of Americans who not only believe that guns are the problem but also want Hillary for presidency. Nothing else is the problem here except government.

This whole thing sounds like other countries investing time and money into movements like these to cause civil unrest in order to put the person they want in power.... I wonder who has a habit of doing that type of work in other countries?

um. us.

I don't have the link but one article I read specifically said that Federal officials believe it was only one shooter, however local officials still think there was more than one.

I guess the local police and mayor got in line pretty quick

I wanted to point this out as I thought it was interesting. Yes, he was in the army reserve and served a tour in Afghanistan, but apparently he was a specialist in.....masonry and carpentry. So I'm not sure how much tactical combat training he would have received or if he was even in combat situations during his Afghanistan tour.

The Army trains everyone on combat, no matter there MOS. Regardless of their specialties everyone in the Army is a solider FIRST. Even basic tactical training will for the most part out perform what the average city cops are trained for.

What do you guys think? Is this something set up by the likes of Adelson and the right wing to discourage protests and discredit BLM, or Soros to shock and awe the shit out of everyone and make it easier for Clinton to deflect email scandal and to claim that unity is needed while blasting Trump for being divisive?

It wasn't a coincidence that Dallas was the stage for this false flag. Nor was it a coincidence that it happened on a date that numerologically translates to 777.

The goal is ushering in Helter Skelter. A new civil war and martial law. New gun control legislation. Maximum chaos and division. And then we'll get WW3, a Yellowstone eruption and total financial and civilizational meltdown.

Watch/read "The Road".

What does 777 translate to? Curious.

The number of the Beast with one added to every numeral, according to Crowley the number of Babylon and the Scarlet Lady. Probably the most important sacred number in the occult since three/seven are the two biggies.

What does "Babylon" represent? Serious question, thanks for this answer.

It can represent a few things. Evil, power, oligarchy, illuminati to some. To others it represents feminine power, liberation, the next phase of human evolution. Crowley supposedly believed that it was a literal woman who would complete his magickal journey.

Crowley was interesting in one particular way to me, in that he "channeled" (I think it was) Aiwass and let the entity speak through him in one of his books. That stuff has always interested me.

Do people who believe it translates to evil think the Powers That Be are using like, magick and all that stuff to destroy the world? I never understood their side.

There's lot's of theories. Some think it's just a hobby and part of the secret societies, but they don't really take it seriously. Others think they literally use it to suck life energy out of their child sex slaves and shit. I'm sure Crowley would not approve either way.

"She's going down fast"

No, I doubt this is an act by bit players in a false right/ left psychodrama for an election decided by machines. Think grander. If only there was a prior known false flag attack to ignite a race war to tell us what the motives might beOh wait

Sympathy for police? Orlando brought sympathy for gays, so....

A police officer that was commentating on CNN said something along the lines of "we have to look out because there might be a conspiracy to hide additional shooters" and then the CNN correspondent said that law enforcement has said nothing about a conspiracy. My thing is; why would you even respond to that notion?

Do you have a link?

I don't have a link because I was watching it live on TV. All I can tell you to do is look out on social media just in case someone was recording it because you're not gonna get it from CNN. The police officer I was referring to in my post prior was from the NYPD. I've now discovered that actual Dallas police officers are leaking intel that this is a conspiracy, but it's being shot down and ignored by the mainstream media. https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/751458496596602880

A lot of sources are getting taken down and concealed, so a lot of footwork will have to be done to get everything together.

Glenn Beck said on Friday's show that he had a source in there who told him something that he said would "change everything" if it got out. He also said if there were credible corroboration he may not even announce it then because of the nature of what it is. Sounded pretty ominous. He also posted as much on his FB page.

eta:from his Facebook page

Noooo, conspiracy involving multiple shooters then somehow it becomes a dead loner? In Dallas? No way!

Its a hoax. Another psy-op Hoax.

False flag. Not a hoax. Big difference.

Why do you believe it's real?

TPTB are not above faking stuff, of course, but it's been proven over, and over, and OOOVVVER again that they have exactly ZERO compunction against actually killing whoever they have to kill in order to make the public believe whatever ploy they want them to believe.

There are and have been a lot of casualties in the war against truth, and tptb have no problem with killing and killing and killing some more in their efforts to keep pushing their agendas forward.

Hell, a large percentage of these uber elites think that there are far too many of us "useless eater sheeple" on the planet anyway. They're all about cutting down the population by an absolutely MASSIVE percentage as it stands. They contrive war after war that never had to happen and that have killed tens hundreds of millions of us. They have pushed forward all kinds of hellish propaganda designed to dumb us down and make us crazed and violent so that we end up destroying ourselves and each other.

We're little more than tax dollars to them. We're expendable chattel that they feed off of and they look upon as being nothing but this...and once the chattel start getting too large in number for them to properly/adequately control and manage, then the sheep herders go toward employing whatever other methods they have to cull them without actually, directly IN THEIR FACE killing them (because the last thing these evil sheep herders want is for their livestock to wake up and turn on them) - although it seems they have indeed been resorting to more in your face, out in the open methods as well.

If a hoax scenario suits them, then I'm sure they have no problem with hoaxing things. I'm not saying that doesn't happen. However, what's the easiest way to scare the sheep into believing that their brother and sister sheep are actually getting killed?

Well...actually killing them, of course. Make sure and actually publicly kill a certain subsection of them in front of the entire herd and then blame it on someone/something else (usually within the overall herd itself so that they continue killing each other more and more). That's the literal definition of a false flag.

I argue it's much easier to hire crisis actors, and train first responders when you don't kill them.

Hellll no. Quite the opposite. It's MUUUUCH easier to execute solid, believable plans when you ACTUALLY KILL PEOPLE than when you hire people that you ultimately can't really trust to keep their word and not eventually rat on you.

Dead sheep tell no tales, bro.

that's why you aren't employed in psyops, son.

If you don't think false flag attacks actually happen and people don't actually get killed during these contrived attacks by TPTB, then you're just doing it way wrong. WAY wrong.

Son.

if you can show me where I said false flags don't happen, then you're a wizard, harry.

You certainly seem to be trying to make some big brouhaha about pushing a "hoax" narrative when it being a false flag and there actually being real casualties is exactly no stretch of the imagination for those powers that have been responsible for such things in the past. The idea that you think it's easier to keep people alive and recycle them over and over while trusting them to keep their mouths shut and expecting citizens not to pick up on your recycling of those usual suspects (which citizens have picked up on) instead of just actually killing real, unsuspecting citizens in order to make sure your false narratives are believed is myopic to say the least, and shows a lack of understanding of history and what's actually happened in many proven false flag attacks of the past.

Buddy boy.

big brouhaha

don't be ridiculous, Barry. are you saying that there are never false flags that are also hoaxes?

No, man. Of course not. As I said from the very beginning: This COULD be a hoax. Sure. I'm just saying that it could also have been a very real attack - just blamed on somebody else (i.e. a false flag). Or it could have been a combination of both.

Look, it seems that we're arguing over something that's ultimately kind of stupid in the sense that we both actually seem to be on the same team. In other words, we both seem to know that this event involved a lot of fuckery and wasn't some sort of "organic attack that 'just' took place".

It could have been a false flag. It could have been a hoax. It could have been a mixture of both.

Regardless, my main point is that it doesn't seem that it was organic and "just" happened.

This attack was about inciting more racial division in the masses, taking heat of Clinton's obvious criminality, and repealing the 2nd amendment. THAT'S what this was about. Doesn't matter whether it was a false flag or a hoax ultimately, and we (you and I) aren't doing ourselves or the search for the truth any favors by trying to argue about whether it was a false flag or a hoax. So it's all good.

I still maintain it's easier and more useful for all goals if people aren't killed. also, it's yet to be proven that anyone was killed here - and certainly not in boston, or sandy hook.

I still maintain it's easier and more useful for all goals if people aren't killed.

It doesn't seem that this has been the case throughout most of history, however. History has not shown this idea to be the case.

Hoaxes happen. Sure. But people get killed for real, and often.

Either way. Really doesn't matter.

You think people weren't killed? Fine. I imagine some haven't been killed, but I know many are and have been killed.

All moot. Point is that TPTB hang the population by a manipulative string, and whatever Boston and Sandy Hook were, they definitely were state manipulations. That's for sure.

it's not moot. it's objective fact. either people were killed as they say or they weren't. I haven't seen any convincing reasons to believe they were here, at Boston, or Sandy Hook. More the opposite. Are you saying you believe people died there? What convinced you?

What's an "objective fact" is that people have gotten killed in false flag attacks. Certain events definitely seem to be hoaxes too. Sure.

What do you think happened during 911? Do you think that was a hoax too?

And no. It's not besides the point - if you're thinking that - because the point is that the same powers that carried that out are also carrying out all the other attacks that we see regularly today.

It's moot because regardless of whether people did die or not, the event was NOT as TPTB say it happened and they are using the event to forward an agenda regardless of what it actually was.

You really have this fixation with thiis "hoax" scenario, and it's really odd actually.

So you won't answer whether you believe people were killed at those specific events? It seems like you do believe people were killed at Boston and Sandy Hook. Please explain what convinced you.

Personal attack noted.

You're trying way too hard, man.

This dialogue stopped being worth continuing a looong time ago.

Enjoy continuing to do whatever it is you're trying to do.

again with the personal attacks.

Timing is dubiously convenient for Clinton?

Either another single guy, or a erroneous report.

Anyone heard anything about the shooter using or selling drugs. Some broadcast reports only say they found methamphetamine or amphetamines at his house. I cannot confirm that online or print yet.

Ive heard from MSM and local media outlets here in DFW that there was Meth in his residence. You're correct.

I came across video with ex chief I think it was saying they found meth and some Fox reports. I just can find a print article yet. Makes you wonder if there was an on going investigation regarding any illegal drugs found in the home.

Any theories as to what "RB" is supposed to stand for?

Guy was called Malcolm X Carl Johnson, I thought that was a funny meme

At my high school we did them every couple months...

Sure, when school was in session.. However, when everyone is gone, on summer break, at the end of June?

thanks

What's up with the periscope feed going down just when the "suicide" happened?

Shooting as mass ritual, the altars were sanctified, the first being 11-63. Would not be surprised to see Memphis and Los Angeles next as previously prepared spaces for sacrifices.

Why do you think this?

I'm thinkin' LA is overdue.

Is san onofre active at all? As in is there nuclear waste there?

L.A.? I doubt it.

well this month it will be the conventions that they target for sure.

ruse to help implement martial law?

shit's goin' down

When did this shooting take place?

Few hours ago

It's looking like it's time to grab SKS go innawoods.

kbai!

Winter Soldiers in Summer.

Reports that suspect had a semi-auto rifle and a handgun. Isnt that a shotgun he used in that one video?

The one where he kills the cop? He was using a rifle. The Sparks you see in the video are bullets ricocheting off of metal.

No, it's not a shotgun. There are multiple videos of that particular murder.

There's even one video where the guy is screaming "he's got an m16 or somethin get his ass!"

You can also hear a bolt action in one of the videos. Very clear distinct shot, pause pause pause, then shot again. All while the AR15/M4/M16 whatever is going off.

No you cant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynROG6Fmkso

1:16

1:19

I'll find a better one if that doesn't suit you. There's 4 different distinct gun types in there, too.

if you were listening to the police scanner last night you would here officers call reporting their equipment. "I have a shotgun" "I have a rifle" "I have a hand gun" "I have body armor"

It's plausible that the eye witnesses are confusing cop gunfire as another shooter.

So apparently now he is the "lone gunman" and the others detained were not involved. They say he was armed with an assault rifle and two pistols, but what about the video of the cop being downed with a shotgun?

what video of a cop being gunned by a shotgun?

It wasn't a shotgun. Just rounds hitting metal and or concrete spraying sparks making it look like a shotgun blast.

that's what i was getting at .. it's clearly not a shotgun.

Okay good I was just clarifying because nobody replied yet.

Yeah you can see him shooting it long before he engages the cop that comes up behind him. He fires 3-4 round clearly in the video ... it's clearly a rifle of some kind.

I'm stuck at home tonight so I watched a 20/20 special on the shooting and they were reporting an SKS rifle was used. Not saying they're right just saying what they reported. If it was an SKS it had to be one that was modified, most likely, to accept a larger capacity magazine.

Yeah I can't imagine all that was done with an attached magazine but who knows? I wonder if it was a deliberate choice to mock the stupid tactics news uses with 'scary' AR 15s, or if you want to go real conspiracy it was a deliberate choice to induce a fear of all semi auto rifles.

There are legal 20 round detachable magazines you can buy for the SKS. All it takes is uninstalling the factory magazine well.

I'm aware not sure why you felt compelled to inform me

Prob referring to the gifs on the current top posts of /r/watchpeopledie. On mobile and too lazy to link directly, sorry.

I agree 100%. A drum fed shotgun is vastly scarier in a crowd.

So whats going on with the folks they arrested in the black Mercedes?

That and the women I want to know about. Why haven't the identities of these individuals been released yet?

Because they could potentially lead to a lawsuit.

They were released about 24 hours ago.

Fair enough. Just a quick question, isn't it supposed to be public record or am I thinking about something else?

I dont know about that ... All I know is I rememeber at around 3 or 4 AM EST they were released, meanwhile some explosions were heard from the perimeter of the parking garage, and then about 30 minutes later the police's posture changed ... the helicopter left the area and the SWAT team left and anyone that needed to be escorted were allowed the leave their positions.

Okay fair enough thanks for the input!

They released them.

Why do you think we haven't really heard any calls for gun control after this incident?

Could this have been another FBI-manufactured “controlled” terrorist plot, which, in present case, went tragically. terribly wrong?

Doubtless there were FBI infiltrators in the crowd in Dallas on the night of 7/7, is it possible that included among their operations was the monitoring of Micah Johnson? After all, it has been self-reported by one of Johnson’s own intellectual models, a certain ‘Professor’ Griff, that the FBI has had him under constant communicational surveillance for some time; while Micah X. Johnson ostentatiously proclaimed himself a follower of Professor Griff on his own Facebook page, etc…

I found this video and comments on it alarming, I'm getting the vibe that many blacks are starting to feel this way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1REzA3yENU

Do you find the comments alarming when black people are murdered and people cheer and say "they got what they deserved"?

Link to the video? And yes I would, cheering anyone's death is pretty shallow. With that said, I have no pity for some individuals who reach their demise and it's not based on skin color, its based on your actions and particularly how many people you have victimized. I feel like if groups of white people where cheering the death of a black man it would be on every msm channel and spammed across social media. There is certainly no shortage of hate against whites on yt and fb.

Go on any comment section of a news article or white nationalist website anytime a black man, woman, or child is killed regardless of the reason and you'll find your answer. Stop trying to make it seem like it's just "racist blacks" that are being divisive. There is also certainly no shortage of hate against black people on yt and fb.

Oh you mean if I go through the comments there are people on the internet that say mean things.... say it ain't so. Stop with the strawman arguments, if you can't provide a source then stop wasting my time. LMAO, you want me to go find the information that supports your claim, FFS. I go through the comments all the time and I call out BS from anyone. However I think your missing the overall tone from black groups right now. Groups like the New Black Panther Party are applauding the killings of the police and they made statement that said “WE ARE CALLING ON THE GANGS ACROSS THE NATION! ATTACK EVERYTHING IN BLUE EXCEPT THE MAIL MAN, UNLESS HE IS CARRYING MORE THAN MAIL!” Imagine if a white group said that, this would be the top story in the news for a week and the president would make a statement.

picture of the shooters gun. https://thearmsguide.com/8811/reports-ak-74-dallas-shooting/ What king of fakery is this? Here's some crumpled up acoustic ceiling tiles, t-bar and rigid insulation. What parking structure has ceiling tiles, and how did the rifle end up on top of the pile?

That's definitely not an SKS. Picture looks like it's from Syria.

Dallas news gives a minute by minute breakdown of events:

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/how-the-downtown-dallas-shooting-developed/267167395

what is the explanation of these:

"10:29p Chief David Brown reports 10 officers were shot by two snipers. He says three of those officers have died. "

"11:27p Police say that they've taken a female suspect into custody after a shootout at the El Centro College. Second suspect still at scene. "

I was up and listening to the radio at 4 am mst on the morning after the "sniper" attacked protesters and police in Dallas. Every witness interview and reporter testimony mentioned "at least 3 snipers" opening fire on the police and protesters. It would seem pretty obvious if there were multiple shooters would it not? Especially when they are reporting it on the radio and airing interviews. Why haven't any of the other suspects been pursued or even spoke of since the first morning? Did anyone else hear about multiple shooters?

Whenever I read about the man speed-walking down the street and throwing a bag into the trunk of his Benz before speeding off, I can't help but picture Peter Quinn.

Echoing gunshots off of buildings makes it seem like multiple shots from a single shot

This is a very deliberate final attempt to establish a totalitarian communist regime; The killing of police. It happened in Bolshevik Russia. It happened in Venezuela now where gangs are Murdering Police. It will soon happen in Hong Kong (I know it to be true, i live there and "Opposition" are trying to seceed Hong Kong from china there.) and it has happened here, in America.

Oh and also Black Lives Matter is organizing a protest tomorrow from what i heard. Again, the illuminati 777 strikes again. We will see tomorrow.

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Wouldn't ballistics recovered allow for confirming the number of shooters?

I feel as though the whole thing was planned. Protesters luring out police for the ambushers to take their "revenge" for "police shootings".

Agreed. Something's very wrong with the whole set-up. Like, not one, not two, but up to four suspected snipers??

That's too well coordinated. So yeah, it could've been pre-planned, but still, too many cops were gunned down. These guys have good aim with adrenaline pumping, muscles all tense, and targets all moving around. These guys ex-para or something?

Could possibly be a drill between some private security/army and the PD,Take the heat off the protesting and the guy that was killed in custody.Dallas PD easy complie to get that!

I King Joffery Drumph the furst do proclare that as a way to reduce the odds of ever being assassinated and having a conspiracy attached to it I shall not have it done in Dallas.

It's another Hoax folks!

/s ?

Jesus. He means people doing the act. He's talking about perpetrators.

I remember hearing the same when this was live.. Yeah he could be saying it but i'm guessing he's just using actors as another term for perps or suspects etc.

Why are these Castile connected people raising so much Gofundme money again? http://i1.wp.com/www.newnationalist.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Capture-1.gif?resize=300%2C165

Dude, you are a fucking MORON. The irony is, you ramble on about logic, yet, you clearly don't understand logic. All cops wear Kevlar, but that doesn't mean they can't be shot dead by a head or well-placed body shot. Not to mention, civilian Kevlar does not always protect against some types of ammo. So, there goes the silly "logic" of your argument that everyone should walk around wearing Kevlar (as well as your assumption that anyone believes that having a gun automatically protects you from dying by a gun - you made that up yourself). I mean, seriously. 🙄

And, just because someone supports the second amendment doesn't make them a gun nut. I don't even own a firearm! Nor do I advocate that everyone should own one. I'm an advocate of reasonable gun control measures, actually. Nonetheless, the choice to bear arms was afforded to each citizen of this country FOR GOOD REASON by our founding fathers. But if your username (and accompanying ignorance of the real issue at hand) checks out, you wouldn't know anything about that, so I really have no clue why you're trying to argue the ethics of a constitutional amendment that you clearly have zero understanding of.

Why don't you read this for a THOUGHTFUL, well-researched, well-cited discussion of the issue (I don't agree with Harris 100% but it's an excellent argument, nonetheless). Then read up on the 2nd amendment and we can talk. Until then I don't have time for your ridiculousness.

This all looks faked as shit. I'm sorry but that shaky, blurry video of that firefight with the cop getting shot looks completely staged. Cops don't rush in alone to dangerous situations like the fucking lone ranger or something. Only a generation raised on Hollywood movies and La-La Land TV shows would believe that a real police officer would charge an armed suspect all by his little lonesome self. He would have had tons of backup in that situation. This isn't Die Hard. Come on people - wake up!

Shaky video from a distance, yet they all call out that the weapon used is an AR-15 (CNN eyewitnesses). Definite slant to create a bias in the public against the AR-15 in preparation for gun-control which is likely already written and waiting for this even before it is introduced.

Build a wall around Washington DC! We need to protect ourselves from corrupt politicians (and politicians to-be!).

One witness says it was definitely an 'assault rifle' because he heard one loud shot. an AR-15 isn't even an assault rifle.

This is what I'm wondering.

However we do know that police departments literally hire people with low IQs

Maybe he wanted to be the hero cop?

Still can't be that stupid to use a hand gun against an assault rifle.

Maybe that's the narrative though.

Cops need assault rifles to handle things.

Texas get ready for gun control legislation.

The opposite will take place.

I'm sure that will go over well with Texans.

Former NYPD claiming AR-15 "type" weapon the shooter used is "like a M-16" he would have used in the military. What?

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To kill as many people as efficiently as possible?

5.56 millimeter ammunition is not designed to kill as efficiently as possible. It is actually designed to be a combat multiplier. The round is more likely to wound you then kill you. That's why it's so popular with militaries and was pushed to get implemented in Vietnam. If I shoot guy (a) it does not kill him, guy (b) and possibly (c) are going to step in and help him. So with one shot I have the potential of taking out multiple individuals out of the fight.

I served nine years in the military, two tours in Iraq. The M16/M4 utilizing 5.56 ammunition fucking sucks. Has almost no stopping power. You shoot someone they're going to take a while to go down. Unless you hit them in the heart or head. Hell, guys in Afghanistan headshot someone at 300 yards and it won't kill them because the round won't pierce their skull.

Frankly sir your opinion is exactly that an opinion, propagated by movies and media that carries little fact. The M16 series of weaponry is actually an exceedingly ineffective unreliable weapon system. Anyone in the military who actually ever use them in combat has become to hate them.

So many better options, personally I fell in love with the M14. Served in the 80s and our company arms room had 4 of em. We got to shoot em every 6 months during range week. Anyway, thanks for your excellent critique.

I really hope that one day that the military does decide to go back to 7.62mm. I can understand the fact of being able to carry more ammunition using 5.56 millimeter, but our military has become so mobile even Squad level has their own vehicles. so the ability to carry ammo cans in the vehicle will compensate for that tenfold. Even if that's not possible, it's no longer necessary to carry over 200 rounds of ammunition on your body. You're not away from the forward operating base or a resupply point for days, potentially weeks on end. You and I both know that real life firefights you're not going to go to that much ammunition.

Huh.. I didn't think I'd make him delete his comment.

What comment got deleted? Mine?

I didn't really look at the username because I was doing some work in the garage. The comment I was talking about getting deleted was the one that was stating that AR style weapon are design to "kill as many people as possible" Was that your comment or was it another?

Not me, I know all about the features and limitations of the 5.56 round. You spelled it out very clearly.

Great post!!!! 💯. The AR-15 is black and carbon fibre so its looks "deadly" when in fact many states wont even let you hunt with it cuz it cant make a kill shot. Yet my Wood stock .45-70 is never mentioned on the MSM as being deadly.

Honestly I think that those attempting to control civilians access to Firearms are using the AR-15 style weapon as a symbol so they can use it to focus their attacks. When you see that type of weapon the first thing you think is "hey, that's the kind of gun the Army uses." You see it in movies, video games and there is this inevitable thought that this must be the Pinnacle of Weapons Systems. I mean if it's good enough for the forces who defend our country it must be pretty damn good. Then the media attaches all these Buzz words to it. Military grade, High-Power and it creates this paper tiger that is easy to demonize.

When facts if you ever dig into them throw the buzz words out the window. Military grade? Military-grade Weaponry are made by the lowest bidder have been in service for decades and half the time have been maintained by some incompetent SOB. High powered? You have to be kidding me here... The kinetic energy transferred by 5.56 ammunition is almost laughable. High velocity yes, high powered no...

I know I'm probably going to get burned alive for what I'm about to say but just look at the numbers. In all these shootings where an AR-15 have been used there are more wounded than dead. Thank God that no more people died and I am thankful of that. The only thing though, if the shooter had been using a different weapon system such as a M14 or God forbid a magazine-fed shotgun. the numbers would be inverse with more dead than wounded.

FYI everyone, BLM is funded by George Soros. As of right now Soros is betting against the US. George Soros, the man who owns the Democratic party and has Clinton as his personal puppet.

George Soros, the guy who was known for breaking the bank of England in the 90s by ruining the sterling and made billions off of screwing the British people. This guys is evil and if you want to see what is going to happen pay attention to what he says and does.

Seems like Disconnected Hillary is reading from a script.

Hillary Clinton Blames Whites, Cops for Deaths of Young Black Men

El Paso police chief call Black Live Matter group a hate group.

Out of 11 million encounters between U.S. police and citizens in 2015, there were 990 police shootings - 494 were white, 258 were black. Black males age 18-35 make up 3% of the U.S. population, yet commit 88% of violent crimes. Non-hispanic whites make up more than 70% of the population, yet commit only a small fraction of violent crimes. White Americans are far more likely to be shot by police than African American citizens, particularly in light of the small percentage of white citizens commiting violent crimes.

The Truth About the Dallas Sniper Attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByE_CpXIjRA

Yeah, y'all some real dumb folk. What you're conflating is the REPORTS of an event and turning it into some factual indicator of a conspiracy. None of you guys seems to understand that while an event is happening almost anything with minimal sourcing will be reported, doesn't somehow make it sketchy when it turns out to be false. This literally happens every single time during a big event and each and every time you people do the same dumb shit as always.

What makes us all dumb, because we question the narrative, search for our own answers, seek the truth, think outside the box? The real dumb folks are the ones that just accept whatever the msm and government tells them in my humble opinion.There are many good points in this thread, there are also many not so good points. As the days go on more information will be posted on this thread, that is how we seek the truth, we look at everything that is being reported, we analyze it, we discuss it, and we formulate our own opinion. Guess that makes us all dumb conspiracists.

Seeking the truth requires starting from the bottom and using facts. In almost every case, especially the last few years, everything here starts with a belief and then you force everything to fit the narrative. Just like this thread is doing. So yes, this is what makes you dumb.

And stop treating yourself like you're some noble fucking truth seeker. You're not.

What does being noble have to do with this, I seek the truth for my own knowledge, to be noble means you have 'high moral principles and ideals', if anyone is trying to act noble it's you who are shunning everyone on this thread for their thoughts, beliefs, and even discussing the matter. "Seeking the truth requires starting from the bottom and using facts" enlighten me what it means to start from the bottom, to me that means looking at all the raw data being reported and analyzing it. Certainly everyone comes into any scenario with prior experience and beliefs that gives them a bias toward a certain thought process, however everyone isn't the same. "Starts with a belief and then you force everyone to fit the narrative" no one is being forced to fit the narrative, all sides are allowed to give their opinions on the subject, there isn't a moderator taken down comments of people like yourself. Furthermore this thread started with "Please keep it civil and post all related content regarding the sniper shootings, including videos, articles and theories here", if people here have formed a conclusion based on what they have watched, heard, and seen, that's called forming an opinion. Quit with the insults it just makes you look silly, instead explain to everyone why things are the way they are, be constructive instead of saying "your dumb", and "you're not" seeking the truth.

Some have a hard time looking outside the box. It's not their fault, they've been programmed that way.

In the words of Mark Twain:

"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

But you are dumb.

Yes, surely he is the dumb one here, and you seem like a sophisticated, successful young man! You will change your mind on the day your own government puts a bullet through your head ;)

Y'all keep saying real dumb things.

I'm going to give up trying to rationalize with you, you're too dense. Away with you troll.

Still soooooooo dumb

Escape the matrix, sheeple

Yes, I find that people tend to be more receptive to what you have to say when you insult them to their faces.

Man, y'all ever ain't going to change your tune. Ever. There's always an easy out for you, "it's part of the conspiracy!" You can explain truth away with another fabrication. So why even try?

Blah, blah, blah.

You just described every post in this subreddit! Way to go, bud!

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But that person's face shouldn't have been plastered all over the news after he came forward. Huge lack of communication has probably ruined this man's life. (ex: Richard Jewell)

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It's Texas. People do that all the time. In context it makes perfect sense for him to bring his gun to the protest. He is flexing his 2nd Amendment.

I live in Texas and I'm actually shocked this happened here. People shoot back here. It's hard to shoot snipers back though

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It's all over the site what are you talking about?

Hate all you want, but /r/The_Donald is on it again just like Orlando. /r/News is being wiped clean again.

Terrorist Scum

Yeah. I agree. The governments and bankers of the world are the enemy of the planet in more ways than one.

That is who you were referring to when you said "Terrorist Scum", right?

Right?

I love how the media blames Donald Trump and guns for this attack. Instead of focusing on the recent trend of Black Supremacy with radical groups like BLM that they openly support. Then again that is the plan of George Soros and his puppet states. Devide the citizens so that they can create a society where the elite runs everything and all, while their legions of useful idiots are far to busy fighting eachother aswell as voting in things that will only benefit the elite and not your average working class citizen (eg, gun control, and vote remain in Britain).

7 officers wounded on 7/7/16. 1+6=7 so: 7 officers wounded on 7/7/7. Dallas is on near the 33rd parallel. For those into that kinda stuff. Oh, and don't forget JFK.

Edit: it appears now 11 officers were shot, 1 civilian. This makes a total of 12 shot. 5 died leaving 7 alive. So we still have a 7 and 11 to work with. Here come the downvotes.

Edit 2: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dallas-police-ambush/protests-spawn-cities-across-u-s-over-police-shootings-black-n605686

Edit 3: as of now, the numbers in edit one still stand. I wanted to add that there are 4 suspects, 12 shot, 12+4=16 so, 7/7/16. Also as noted above, there are a total of 16 people involved, 1+6=7. Take all this however you want, even I feel like I'm reaching a bit, but there it is.

What is the significance of this?

This should get you started http://youtu.be/QYmViPTndxw

Also in total 11 officers were shot, 11 years ago on 7/7 the London bombings occurred. I am not saying numerology has anything to do with this event, but it is interesting none the less. Also, some people are really into it so I just thought I would share with the community.

the people who discount the numerology stuff fail to realize it doesnt matter if they believe any of it, if the people putting these things in motion do. nothing in numerology needs to be real or true, what matters is that the people using it think it is.

That is exactly what I tell people when talking about Anton lavey and the satanic Hollywood elite, it doesn't matter what we believe, it matters if they believe it. People just don't get it, and i understand, it is a bizarre concept. Plus the meme "satanic panic" really discredited the mere existence of satanism in the mainstream. It is sad how effective psyops are.

yup, i have a unique perspective, i joined a secret society in college. so ive been through initiations and been exposed to a fair amount of the occult through that. it led to me doing a lot of reading on the subject and talking with other members about that aspect of the society (i was our ritual master for 2 years)

when it comes to ceremonial magick and things like numerology effecting real world outcomes its pretty simple, if you get a big group together and hold a ceremony that all of them think is going to work it changes all of their thinking and goals to align with the wanted outcome. (think of it like a church service where the preacher tell you all to go out and do gods will)

things like skull and bones and some of the other powerful secret societies tend to only pull membership from the "elite" as well (keep in mind most of the occult societies of the past were 100% made of old world nobility) so many of the ruling class are true believers in this stuff. some just pay lip service to the occult aspects but like to use things like numerology as a sort of signature, like a serial killer leaving his mark for those who are like minded to notice.

Thanks for sharing your perspective on this. I've been wondering how much of the occult belief is true and how much is really just cover or smokescreen. You said that many are true believers but some just pay lip service but use numerology as a sort of signature. That actually aligns well with an argument put forth by Miles Mathis, that a lot of the numerology is just a way for them to put their signature on it and also to signal to others 'in the know' that the event is 'one of ours.' Here is a relevant paper on this: http://mileswmathis.com/occult.pdf

I'd be interested in your opinion about it. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to have the discussion out in the open.

i havent read this befroe, im going to take a look, im not worried about it being public at all, though this is a bit longer than what i can tear through at the moment. ill do a quick gloss over it and let you know what i think of the first few pages in a few minutes.

okay right off the bat, he gets in to the rosicrucians and masons, so he is on track with that for sure. the society i am a part of is very very closely linked to the freemasons, i know a few master masons who have confirmed that elements of our ritual do in fact cross over (of our founders 2/3's were masons before or became them later)

within the freemasons there are quite a few sub groups. see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_bodies#/media/File:Structure_of_Masonic_appendant_bodies_in_England_and_Wales.jpg

now people who buy in to the illuminati stuff are not wrong, they are just a century or two late. they were in fact a sub group of Freemasons back in the 15th or 16th century. do they still exist? i doubt it, does an equally secret group that likely does the same thing? almost definitely.

if you want to look at the occult as it links to free masons and other secret societies, start looking at the rosicrucians (they are still active, they have a website for recruitment, ive pondered joining actually) and the O.T.O

both found here (https://www.rosicrucian.org/) and here (http://www.oto-canada.org/) these are actually real organizations that do still practice.

now both of these groups are considered high society, both have extensive involvement with numerology and Kabbalah. the OTO was another small group similar to the Illuminati (to a degree a revival of the ideas) it was for a time headed by Alister Crowley, the self professed beast, and wickedest man alive. crowley is one of the biggest names involved with high ceremonial magick, numerology, and kabbalah.

his favorite was sex magick based orgies (my kind of man) he was known to have relations and "ceremonies" with several high "ranking" people (there is even a story that links the bush family to these rituals which makes a lot of sense when you consider they are all members of skull and bones, and the whole bohemian grove thing)

the idea of the numbers of significance also treads back in to ancient holidays, festivals and solar alignments. you see elements of this stuff pop up in things like the 4 blood moons conspiracy with isreal, the cults of Saturnalis and the kiddie porn investigations and other.

our Gregorian calendar is one of the only ones that is not based on the lunar cycles, if you have noticed many of these rather questionable events just so happen to go down during or just after a new moon or full moon and that should not be ignored.

in the same way a person who believes in astrology listens to their astrologist when they planning their month, the people who are pushing these events along are also setting them up to fall on these dates.

just look at this years full moons for example and remember a full moon lasts 3 days with the calander date being the middle.

Thanks. No rush. I don't think you can really gloss it in the first few pages. Take your time, and if you don't get to it, so be it. I think you'll find it very interesting and worthwhile. By the way, in his paper on the Unabomber, Miles makes the following claim when discussing Gerald Gardner: "While Crowley hid behind “magick”, Gardner hid behind the Wiccan movement, which he founded in 1954. I showed you in my Tate/Manson paper that the Intelligence communities love to hide behind Satanism and magick and the occult. I suggested you ignore these feints as purposeful dead-ends. Satanism works as perfect cover for Intelligence, since most researchers love to be diverted into it: it is much sexier than the truth."

And here is the link to the Tate/Manson paper he mentions.

While Crowley hid behind “magick”, Gardner hid behind the Wiccan movement, which he founded in 1954

they are the same thing one is simply a continuation of the other. i to this day identify myself as a "pagan" i wouldn't call myself wiccan because the law of threes makes no sense within the frame work presented.

satanism frankly does not exist. the whole idea of satan is christian, the gods and entities these groups worship predate the very concept of satan by 1000's of years.

a great example is Palymara, the original temple there was to Ba'al who was also known by the name Beezelebub. only a few months ago a mock up of the Arch of Palymara was set up in london and in NY http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36070721

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Bel

this stuff is all around us, hidden in plain sight.

if you are interested in learning a lot about the symbolism being used "the secret teachings of all ages" is a really good resource you can usually pick up pretty easily on amazon or a book store that covers several different cultural traditions.

Thanks. To what extent do you think TPTB really believe in this stuff, and to what extent do they just use it to manipulate others or use it as a smokescreen? Like for example, do you think the guys at the very very top believe in it? Or could you assign some percentage to the people who really believe vs. the people who just use it.

Also is there any form of child abuse involved in these rituals?

from my experience id say its probably a 60/40 split in true believers/lip service.

as for child abuse nothing that i am aware of, however when you dig in to some of the older cults im pretty sure their is. human sacrifice is certainly not off the table, and tend to focus on youth, purity etc. so im sure in the dark corners it does happen.

most of these groups are focusing on ancient roman/greek and other cults that were on the fringes of those empires. i have not really looked at that angle of the older cults and such frankly because i have a feeling how dark that rabbit hole gets and don't really want to venture down it.

our organization never goes much beyond hooded robes and repeating ancient languages and mock ritual. most lower level ones don't really cross in to anything "real" generally. things like fraternities and the freemasons are sort of laying the ground work to find the more serious sects. think of them as the elementry school introduction, rosicrucians/o.t.o would be your middle school, and then you learn about the real big leagues so to speak.

Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions!!

i do think he focuses a bit too much on the jewish angle, although i have not been able to investigate that much myself as i am a simple Goy and get accused of anti-semitism when i start asking questions that get too close to that sort of thing.

he touches on crowley, but calls him a satanist, which imho having studied quite a bit of his work is a bit too simplistic, i highly recommend a reading of " the book of the law" i think it is one of his better texts that help sort of get inside the head of the sort of people we are talking about. http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/engccxx.htm

much of this appears to be simple gibberish to the non-initiated, the reactions of people who are and are not in the know to what is presented is quite different based on their knowledge of symbolism and is a very good way to gauge how in the know some one really is.

Occultists have a hard on for 33 and 777

It also has Christian connotations as the opposite of 666, but in this context it's more occult symbolism he's pointing out.

That 'monster' bull's testicle drink has 777 on the front.

That is 11 officers wounded on 7/6/16. You can throw that theory out now.

Improves the theory. 11 is the number of destruction. Think Shiva the Destroyer.

Today is 7/8, yesterday was 7/7 when the shootings occurred. 4 officers were killed, 7 survived aka wounded. Some people are into numerology, I find it interesting at best. Please don't muddy the water. If you want to legit correct me on any of this, I am all ears.

If you'd like to dig deeper into the subject, from an occult / esoteric / secret society perspective, I recommend Crowley's work on gematria and hermetic qabalah, entitled "777 and Other Qabalistic Writings of Aleister Crowley" (amazon link) (online version), also containing his "Liber 777" said to have been written prior to him publishing this material.

The first appearance of 777 was published anonymously in 1909 after Crowley had written it from memory in just a week. An introduction to one edition by "Frater N∴" states that Crowley may have published it anonymously because it was taken from a Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn manuscript that was obligatory for initiates to memorise.

Also interesting to note: 777 = "Order Out of Chaos" in gematria (source).

Are there any good gematria you tubers out there? I watch that Zachary k Hubbard guy going on 3 weeks now and I think he is a full of shit shill. I dabble in studying the occult and 11, 33, 9, 7, and 13 always catch my eye in illuminati sacrifices, I can only get a tenuous grasp on it at best. There Is quabbala, English ordinal and so on, very complex, I need a simple tutorial if you have any suggestions.

You can find a simple gematria calculator here, which offers a simple explanation of gematria here, and more on gematria and numerology here.

Thank you.

Enterthe5t4rz he is all about the numbers. https://www.youtube.com/user/Enterthe5t4rz

I was watching his live stream tonight actually! Thanks for the suggestion. I'm really wanting to find a youtube video that explains the origins of gematria, the rules of deciphering the numbers and why they are the rules, and it's significance and impact. Know of anything like that?

Not really, But if I find anything, I will send it your way.

This is a video by a Jewish Rabbi on gemantria, a little dry, but clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shm4efnZp6A

Have you seen the movie Pi?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138704/

its Qabbala is it not? and its a jewish school of mysticism, its been the basis for several of the secret societies over the ages and mr. Crowley was a huge fan of it and ceremonial magick.

this sort of sacrifice wouldn't be too far from his type of peoples wheel house so to speak.

its an interesting line of theories to entertain, though its not going to lead to any proof or anything useful.

Probably unrelated, however also the 11th anniversary of the London 7/7 terror / false flag attack.

Weird

Just as in graffiti, numbers in a tattoo usually mean more than just the characters themselves. Examples of numbers used symbolically by white supremacists include the numbers 88 (eighth letter, HH, or Heil Hilter), 14 (the fourteen words, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."), 311 (the 11th letter is K and three times it equals KKK), 666 (said to be Satan's number), 777 (said to be God's number), 83 (the eighth letter is H and the third is C; Heil Christ), 100% or 100% wood (signifying purity of race), 4/19 (the date of the Waco, Texas, assault and the day of the Oklahoma City bombing), 4/20 (Adolf Hilter's birthday and also a time to smoke marijuana, in reference to proportions used to make the drug), and the number 5 (represents the expression, "I have nothing to say," a phrase used by San Diego-based white supremacist Alex Curtis to demonstrate the code of silence).

http://m.policemag.com/article/130/in-the-hood

Neo-Nazi Triskele (777) The Neo-Nazi triskele is a symbol resembling a three armed swastika, used by several “Christian” white supremacy organizations and other hate groups. The arms are numerals, “777,” numbers derived from the Book of Revelation symbolizing triumph over the Antichrist.

http://symboldictionary.net/?p=3423

Ummm no. It was 4 dead 6 wounded and one civilian injured. Then today 7/8/16 one more officer declared dead.

Almost, 11 officers shot, 5 dead, one civilian wounded. I know this is a stretch, but we still have an 11, a total of 12 shot, 5 dead, meaning we still have 7 whom survived. I know, I know, mental gymnastics. Thanks for the update. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dallas-police-ambush/protests-spawn-cities-across-u-s-over-police-shootings-black-n605686

You don't have to be an asshole. I get that is how you operate cause conflict works so well for everyone these days.

They have been adding the civilian into the numbers for some time and one station I was watching had a redacted number. Shit is so fucked right now the guy that turned himself in earlier just got released and his brother is claiming death threats.

Going to be best for the dust to settle and see what actual totals are.

I was not being an asshole, seriously, I wasn't. I am always happy for people to fact check me and point out something wrong. The mental gymnastics was referencing me fiddling with the numbers and had nothing to do with you. Sorry man, I try to keep things civil, sorry if my comment came off dickish.

Oh alright. My fault took it the wrong way. Sorry arguing with others on another platform and its getting bad. Let my shit get in the way.

This has gotten "routine" where this group (can't actually say because of political correctness, race card, etc.) escalates from protest into madness. WHY do police allow this? The protesters are NOT acting as any other protesting group does. No other protesters exhibit this amount of violence as the burning of cities, massive looting, shutting down of bridges and streets that create havoc for thousands, etc. Police are under orders to do "crowd control" a specific way, but things have changed over the years and so their policies need to be adjusted accordingly. When the riots are expected in particular, and when protests start escalating, "the big guns" need to be called in. This can be water hoses, tear gas, more specialist police types as National Guard, etc. This protesting group needs to be taught that when they disagree with something, protest in a way to get attention to their problem, but they have no right to go over the line into insane criminal behavior as killing cops, burning down cities, looting stores (which will many times destroy small businesses and their owners lives) or even prevent people from living their lives, by blocking streets and bridges. I believe if police were allowed to respond to these riots accordingly, many of those participating in them will stop. This will leave the continuing riots with a much smaller group of those too ignorant and unwilling to learn proper civilized behavior and will be able to be corralled quicker and dealt with.

There were no riots or looting in Dallas. At the average BLM rally, no one dies or set fires to stores.

What I find very interesting, and this may not describe you but it describes others, is that BLM is exposing the inner fascist of a lot of anti status quo conspiracy theorists. It's funny to see people who hate the government become instant bootlickers whenever BLM is involved.

So you want us to spray black protestors with fire hoses until they're a much smaller group that can be coralled?

And it is not routine for BLM protestors to go on shooting sprees. It has never happened before actually. The few destructive riots have also not been routine. There have been hundreds of BLM protests at this point and you barely hear about them because they're actually routinely peaceful and uneventful.

That guy wasn't even BLM. The shooting was designed to destroy BLM. It's real fucking obvious. I don't know how white supremacists are so easily fooled when normally that group is very suspicious of the government.

If it turns out the shooters pledged themselves to ISIS, how will it be reported if ever? Also don't forget Coulter's Law

Please take your misguided agenda elsewhere.

It's just 0 evidence for ISIS, let alone proof. You already decided it was muslims, so you bend the facts, instead of letting them bend you.

I don't know what to think of those craigslist ads I always see in connection to shootings. It seems like it would be easy to fake one.

Whaaaat Da hell? Im so confused...

Gov Abbott also recently called for Convention of States in response to federal overreach and corruption: http://kxan.com/2016/01/08/gov-abbott-calls-for-constitutional-convention-of-states/

Lol nobody associates Texas with Nukes.

texas has been talking succession again since the brexit, possible thread to tug on based on how they spin things in the am.

Flagged for removal... can't even see it... wtf

The poor guy, I'm glad he didn't get shot. The police should let him take some of their seized swag on his way out of the station.

Actually, to be honest I just searched and everything I found says he sold off his stock in Olin Corp and Vista Outdoors back in February and March.

Sources:

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/05/16/soros0516/

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/02/16/soros-exits-stakes-in-energy-companies-takes-pfizer-position/

The date posted is 6/19/2016

Oh shit

They are the hidden hand.

This is the third most important thing in the world right now, after Obama fake documents and the sufi influence.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/tlg/5672541414.html
https://imgur.com/ETj471C

Also, the way that guy moved to kill the police officer behind the pillar was truly astounding. He either was in ecstasy or highly trained. I'm talking about Vympel grade training here.

Someone should investigate this.

I like you.

they are initiating one of their plans.

I agree.

Who do you think "they" is?

The police will be more agressive than ever as the gun laws will get stricter. People will be losing their last scraps of power and be forced to more and more submissive state

Agreed. Something's very wrong with the whole set-up. Like, not one, not two, but up to four suspected snipers??

That's too well coordinated. So yeah, it could've been pre-planned, but still, too many cops were gunned down. These guys have good aim with adrenaline pumping, muscles all tense, and targets all moving around. These guys ex-para or something?

If it did seem legit, then it would make it too obvious to the public... So I would think that they made it like this on purpose to throw it off from being real evidence.

You sir, clearly know how to dong. Well met!

I have a feeling the cops weren't in on this one.

Here is one i Found: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3v8med/remember_the_band_eagles_of_death_metal_from_the/?

Although, I remember seeing "watch out dallas" RIGHT after the Amarillo Shootings..

I mean, even if it's not legit... whoever made the post accurately predicted such an event. Right? That's still suspicious.

Thanks for making the rest of us feel left out.

Not a peep about those others once they named the "one shooter" this morning.

Ninja edit: at least not currently on CNN.

Is this the Instagram with 284k followers but only one post 🤔

No it was going on last night CST. It was 7/7

There are some 20+ other people running for president in 3rd parties, and independent groups. Vote for one of them!

This month is gonna be fucking spectacular!

It's history, brah. This shit right here is history.

It's about to go down!

Do you think that the fact that it took place two blocks away from Dealey Plaza where JFK was shot has any significance?

Agree with you completely!!

So you're implying that a vast government conspiracy to sway public opinion has been undone by a Craiglist post?

The cognitive dissonance on this subreddit is absolutely astounding.

Also, the post has all the trademarks of a troll job.

But I'm sure you'll work those into the narrative somehow.

Never thought of it that way.

This is fucking stupid! Im tired of playing the guessing game with these events!

I guess now those brave boys in blue can just send in "drones". So brave. So BRAVE of them.

Interesting thanks

No the garage is across the street. These reports came out and then the report of the suspect being blown up.

link it, we were looking for you earlier.

He used an intricate pulley system.

Came here to say exactly this....what's the scoop guys?!?

I sure wish I knew what the other person had written before deleting the comments. Sounds like it was very interesting.

Hey Smokey, any info you would like to share with us? You have some enchanted tarot cards over there?

False memories. People always say this after a tragic event happens but there's never any proof. No screen shoots, no archives, nothing.

Honestly I can understand why they used the bot.

Don't get me wrong, it's still pretty fucked up.

Sure the fuck did. What was your source at the time?

yeah, this is weird. I actually don't even see the shooter from the other rooftop vids in this one. Seems to be the same exchange. Can't see the second cop walking up in the rooftop vids as well.

The suspect at el Centro said he had a bomb and was on radio with police. He demanded a cellphone and he got one, but as shrapnel. Just because there are different narratives doesnt mean its not the same suspect.

Sorry that is what I meant. Not much into shotguns.

Link has been changed and now supports the lone gunman theory.

Hmm, didn't even think to check the date this time. I'm guessing the black guy was just a tard who shot a few times and missed, while the real mercs were the ones doing the killing before driving off.

No you cant.

I was watching msm during the event last night, and they were interviewing protesters on the street that had been super close to the gunfire. They said elevated positions, as did the initial police reports via msm. Sometimes I think msm is most trustworthy in the first hour or so of an event, they actually report what is seen and heard. I saw the tone change last night once they started getting the official narrative strait.

I cant believe how relaxed that one cop looks while his partners getting gunned down, not looking for cover or anything.

That it the same thing I am here to find answers to. Apart from the fact that it was reported that there were multiple shooters who ambushed the police penning them in with gunfire from high up, I am having trouble believing that a lone gunman could have fired on police from the top of a building and actually made it out of said building without being met by the scores of police below. I mean how many exits were there for this shooter to have made it out of a building and proceed on foot to take out more police? The police were there literally seconds after the first shots were fired. Their first protocol would have been to completely surround the building, yet this one guy got out to continue a gunfight with police, which he also escaped from. When has that ever happened before?

We are awake. Our leaders are either asleep or on the take.

Spam this link to all these LoneGunmanTM shills...

The chaos started when at least two snipers fired from an elevated position on police officers minutes before 9 p.m. local time (10 p.m. ET), Brown said. He called it an "ambush-style" shooting.

"We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different perches in garages in the downtown area, and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," he told a news conference earlier — noting that some victims were shot in the back.

Other suspects might still be at large. "We're hopeful that we have got everybody, but we don't know that for sure," Rawlings told NBC's TODAY.

He said the suspects in custody were "being pretty tight-lipped," but their motives were clear. "It's simple ... they wanted to kill police officers. And sadly, they did."

Wag the Dog

It really happened. The story got out before "they" could get their agenda/story figured out. Passports can survive a plane hitting a building so why not a drivers license?

Not saying it is or isn't a false flag, but AFAIK there hasn't been any info released on how they identified the suspect. Also, a bomb/explosive device doesn't always mean that someone is turned into a completely unrecognizable pile of mush to be lethal. The rapid compression from the concussive force of the blast can rupture organs, blood vessels and cause lots of internal mess to all the squishy bits to be lethal even without having enough pressure to cause dismemberment or have shrapnel running through you. Considering the explosive didn't necessarily cause massive amounts of collateral damage to the point where logically everything would be utterly vaporized, I think it's safe to say that plausibly, yes, a small piece of plastic could survive. That doesn't mean they didn't have other methods of identification too.

Go on any comment section of a news article or white nationalist website anytime a black man, woman, or child is killed regardless of the reason and you'll find your answer. Stop trying to make it seem like it's just "racist blacks" that are being divisive. There is also certainly no shortage of hate against black people on yt and fb.

Yeah honestly all the news is about BLM vs. Extremists vs. Cops. Who are these "extremists"? No media has really asked that.

What's delta?

In contrast here are real veteran combat soldiers (not carpenters) at the Battle of Normandy lugging their gear. Johnson has a vest and a lot of ammo to carry. They are moving very slowly and deliberately, often ducking, start at 1:40. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm4qOkioLus

Every single cop that was shot to death was carrying a gun.

The point is, having a gun is not a protection from bullets. Why do you tell people to buy a gun rather than a ballistic vest which can actually save their lives if they get shot? Guns don't stop bullets, kevlar does.

But the gun nuts never tell people to buy kevlar vests.

Why is that?

I still maintain it's easier and more useful for all goals if people aren't killed.

It doesn't seem that this has been the case throughout most of history, however. History has not shown this idea to be the case.

Hoaxes happen. Sure. But people get killed for real, and often.

Either way. Really doesn't matter.

You think people weren't killed? Fine. I imagine some haven't been killed, but I know many are and have been killed.

All moot. Point is that TPTB hang the population by a manipulative string, and whatever Boston and Sandy Hook were, they definitely were state manipulations. That's for sure.

They were using that word in the earliest articles and then just continued to use it as one person can actually do that.

"magic bullet theory"

So you're fine with cops having the authority to blow up suspects who they claim are too dangerous to apprehend? That's a good precedent to set?

You're fine with police having the power to decide who does and doesn't have sixth amendment rights?

You make good points and if everything went down the way they said I can't really have a problem with it if it saved lives. I'm just pissed the dude was able to suicide by cop at the end. I would have liked to have him survive and face the music.

It's as if the Media only thinks there are two choices....

maybe the cops are looking for the other guys but want them to think they dont know they exist so they are feeding the media bad info. its not unheard of.

Just have a read of Lee Harvey Oswalds book - "Single man triangulated firing, magic bullets, and how you can too'.

Ive heard from MSM and local media outlets here in DFW that there was Meth in his residence. You're correct.

Why wasn't he shot at then?

Yeah he's retired so if it collapses it isn't his head on a pike.

What about the woman that was supposedly taken into custody?