Steemit is probably control grid. The litmus tests are it's bitcoin basis, avaricious virality, people like WAC supporting it, and that they suppress 'conspiracy'
23 2016-08-20 by 911bodysnatchers322
Steemit is based on bitcoin, they claim. That makes it censorship resistant, they say. We honestly don't know their backend, we have to trust that they aren't casting an illusion on us by publishing technical details of steemit's working that don't actually match reality. It would be trivial to spoof the alleged activity and mechanisms of bitcoin on steemit. If you don't get to see the backend, you just have to believe them. They use their own steemit currency also.
It does seem, however, to be legit if people are getting paid. But there are ways to spoof that also...you could have an internal currency and 'curators' who decide what something is worth (see the 'bernie sanders scam dollarvigilante' post below).
For example, the US government has unlimited money ('QE') to spend on a successful propaganda campaign to destroy reddit. After all, knowledge is power and the total fucking distrust of the american people towards the government is priceless.
Secondly, if Bitcoin itself is a scam, then steemit is a scam too.
Bitcoin involves cracking a code. Who has the most / best equipment to crack codes? The NSA. They have a few trillion dollars invested in a whole building that is a computer. Because of US Military Intelligence's (USMI's) NSA PRISM, bitcoin is an Elitist system you no longer have access to. I'll expand.
You can no longer make money on it if you didn't get in on it from the get-go. It's a ponzi scheme. In order to mine for bitcoin, you have to have expensive equipment. You can't buy enough equipment now to make enough bitcoin to pay for it and make a narrow margin, because of the way the system has worked. In the beginning, mining was easy, but now it's all mined out and more computer power + time is needed to unlock harder puzzles. That's just how it works.
So to start now, you'd need an astronomical investment in computer equipment and lots of spare, discounted energy, like for example a solar farm. No one has that. It's inherently more elitist as time goes on. If you started now, with your computer, it would take over 20 yrs on average to get a bitcoin block, if you ever did get one--which you might not.
My point is that bitcoin has always been elitists, never democratic. It was never based on anything other than who has the most energy and technology. People who got started early have the equipment, so does the USMI. USMI also has unlimited power: they have excess coal reserves, some hydro, some solar and wind, and lots of natural gas and fracking petrol; they also have nukes, which means 'cheaper oil than everywhere else in the world....or else'.
Therefore, the people who will have the most bitcoin at the end of the day is the US military and the 1%, period.
It's also pretty clear the NSA are developing quantum computers. People have speculated that bitcoin at present does not use quantum safe algorithms, and therefore at some point the US Mil can steal all the bitcoin that hasn't been transferred into a paper wallet. That paper does no good either because the moment that bitcoin is put into a usable electronic wallet and a firewall opened, bam, it could be taken by an omnipresent AI agent that's running as several autonomous micro instances in your dishwasher, nest AC controller, your amazon dash button, your iphone, etc.
First they fight you, then they win
Only Governments engage in activities that involve inhibiting or threatening cryptocurrencies (and it's useful to mention they fight crypto tools generally...they fought pgp, they fought phpphone, they fought tor, they fought i2p, freenet, torrent, VPNs, they totally undermined SSL with heartbleed, etc).
Then the Silkroad busts. Other darknet sites. Hacks on bitcoin exchanges and banks. Threats of TOR being undermined, heartbleed SSL bug making everyone question everything's security.
Who ended up with that money? The 1%.. The NSA? <-- coin telegraph or cointel-egraph
You will notice the US Government fought bitcoin at first, trying to rope in the IRS, the SEC and trying to lawyer up on bitcoin, threatening everyone who was playing, and dissuading everyone from getting in on bitcoin. (interesting, eh?)
Until the moment they seized the 20M or so in bitcoin from silkroad. And that happened around the same time the exchanges were starting to be compromised and bitcoin stolen. Then suddenly, the US changed its tune and bitcoin is no longer a threat. Why is that? Think!
It's that now that bitcoin has value (ie: bitcoin now has the potential to be exchanged for goods and services because of the public's trust of the currency to have said value), and that if the US has the lion's share of bitcoin, well they wouldn't to go fighting against a currency because that would only destroy its value. They aren't going to destroy their own wealth, or act against it, in other words.
Avarice and SCAM
When I first went to Steemit, this article was prominent. Now you can't find it unless you search. Everyone should read, esp. about how Sanders is abusing the system.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@dollarvigilante/steemit-is-a-scam-how-bernie-sanders-screwed-me
Yet, it's now back up to 2k+ Which is good.
Also this user 'knows the CEO' and made 12k in one month, isn't that something. Too bad I don't know the CEO
https://www.reddit.com/r/steemit/comments/4qug59/is_steemit_legit/d4y7yow https://www.reddit.com/r/steemit/comments/4qug59/is_steemit_legit/d4z2je1
and yet
https://www.reddit.com/r/steemit/comments/4tmrgy/steem_is_scam_proof_inside/
Conspiracy tag suppression
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4x54ij/steemit_selfcensorship_of_tag_conspiracy_it/
WAC supports it, so it's control grid
Fluke, you are my faaather
https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4w5man/luke_the_snook_wacoffski/
But! Corbett supports it
I trust James Corbett, but I don't know why he's so quick to jump on steemit. Seems premature, especially since they clearly suppress the conspiracy tag.
And knowing the relationship of bitcoin to power (it's a petrol-backed currency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), and given he's made a documentary based on the history of petrol, he should know better than to back a dubious cryptocurrency based on oil. Period.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4x5tsk/corbettreport_video_on_shilling_out_of_control/
Trust but verify
I'm ok with something new. In fact I tried Steemit and I like it. However, very few saw my post, nor will many. Because it was tagged conspiracy as primary, and conspiracy will not show up in lists. You have to get to conspiracy by gaming the url manually. That's lame.
No Response from Support I've told steemit about this, but I've not even gotten an email response to say, we'll respond when we can. It's literally gone into a black hole. Steemit also did not respond to another unrelated support question I sent days before the 'glitch' support email.
Fragmentation
If you think I'm 'throwing shade' on steemit, I'm not. I'm asking valid questions and pointing out things you might have missed. Shill away if you must, but I'm pretty much convinced that Steemit is just control grid, designed to fragment the /r/conspiracy and other communities on reddit primarily (since it's an alternative to reddit). They tried this with voat and they are trying again by monetizing it. You see that's the killer app. Trying to tempt you with money. Only problem is, it's based on bitcoin and it pays out ... what if bitcoin falls apart...as it was designed to do....all along.
29 comments
12 Vitalogy0107 2016-08-20
I was wondering why there is no conspiracy sub-steem or whatever subreddits are called there, I specifically looked for it and found absolutely nothing. What's going on with that?
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-08-20
It's being purposefully omitted. You know this because it has more steemcoin (or whatever it's called) than 'yo' or 'bitchez' or any other stupid 'sub' (tag) that pops up.
10 ChangeThroughTruth 2016-08-20
/u/911bodysnatchers322, thank you for your contributions to this sub. I really appreciate the effort you put in even if I don't agree with everything you write.
5 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-08-20
Yeah this is a great post OP.
9 911bodysnatchers322 2016-08-20
Hey thanks guys. I appreciate the feedback. Keep enjoying them and I'll keep making them. I can tell you I'm working on a few things that may be a game changer. A visual board of our list of confirmed conspiracies. And a video.
3 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-08-20
Yeah, that sounds great! I wish I could add more commentary to this but you seem to have efficiently covered all the relevant points:)
Can't wait to see what you have been working on.
I've been thinking of joining Webbrain to tie some things together.
Cheers
2 trytheCOLDchai 2016-08-20
Much appreciated!
5 pildoughboy 2016-08-20
You completely missed the idea of bitcoin, and your bad math shows this is just a shitpost.
bitcoin is a concept of a decentralized trust network. It's a forum for free market capitalism. It's open sourced and can be replicated in any form. Also most of the seized coins have been sold at auction so that's another point your wrong on. There aren't even 20m bitcoins mined yet (only about 15.7m). I stopped reading there because you have no idea what you're talking about.
1 petrus4 2016-08-20
Or, you could be naive. The fact that you've resorted to profanity here, suggests that your ego is invested in Bitcoin, which means that you're unlikely to be receptive to contrary opinions, regardless of how factual they are.
Something being open source, by itself, does not automatically guarantee its' immunity either. Linux has been well and truly hijacked at this point, I assure you.
1 pildoughboy 2016-08-20
you left out "It's open sourced and can be replicated in any form"
if bitcoin is hijacked we have the code and hundreds of other coins to take its place.
Also I'm not going to be considerate to someone who clearly pulled some random blog posts together and made a post that isn't true.
1 petrus4 2016-08-20
You make it sound as though civility is normal among Reddit users.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-08-20
I'm getting those figures from a few blog posts, attack them not me. Bevause otherwise you sound vm like a pseudoskeptic who fails to provide your source as a counterargument.
I am glad you called it free market capitalism also. That's how I know you don't know what you are talking about and I stopped reading there.
1 pildoughboy 2016-08-20
so you pulled your numbers out of random blog posts and write this crazy conspiracy?
What's there to argue? You don't know what you are talking about, and bitcoin has been running successfully and growing substantially for what 7 and a half years.
Yes free market. It's a set of protocols that doesn't discriminate. Everyone acts in their own interest and it secures the system.
"If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. " - Satoshi
4 voteforcorruptobot 2016-08-20
Yep, something smelled wrong with this when I looked at it, a bit 'pyramid scheme' vibey. Personally I'm waiting for Miramir to launch in a couple of weeks as they're appealing to my sensibilities.
4 LupinePeregrinans 2016-08-20
Hadn't heard of that but just checked it out and it looks like it has potential. Seems that there's a few new social network things, just a case of seeing which people take up and use ...
3 voteforcorruptobot 2016-08-20
I've tried a few others out of interest but I'm begining to realise reddits still-growing popularity (especially with it's main demographic) is it's biggest downfall, it was the same deal with 4chan and several other sites.
2 LupinePeregrinans 2016-08-20
It's catch 22, you need enough people to find and use it for it to be worth it, but as soon as there's too many people it's worth decreases...
4 We_are_all_satoshi 2016-08-20
Pyramid Steem
4 AccurateLinguist 2016-08-20
the fundamental principle of Steemit - valuation of opinion - is Bad Design. we should beware of Popularity Traps.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-08-20
I like the idea of gilding. It makes you put your money whered your mouth is in terms of liking something. Problerm is, those with money can abuse it as "premium placement". This is how reddit gets it right by putting in a separate tab
Now only if karma beyond a community crowd managed threshold could generate gold that can only be given away....that would become essentially equivalent to a volunteerism based currency
3 ifltrdby 2016-08-20
If it looks to good....
3 Putin_loves_cats 2016-08-20
Excellent post, yet again. I was excited about it until i found out about the signup requiring fb or a reddit account. Then below that they said sms verify coming soon. So, either have a fb account, link my reddit account, or link my phone number. All of that defeats the whole purpose of annon with bitcoin and the block chain. I also read the TOS and they collect quite a bit of info about you. From my reading, its basically a mix of non annon fb, reddit style up voting, and bitcoin. No thanks, especially in the world we live in today and the shit i (we) talk about here. Something doesn't sit well with me with that website... Just my two cents.
5 911bodysnatchers322 2016-08-20
SMS means they know who you are also, since they know the carrier and number. I think you are right, and I feel the same way. Thanks for letting me know and I appreciate the praise.
3 flyyyyyyyyy 2016-08-20
could be. we know reddit is. and voat has a frikkin goat for their mascot.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-08-20
When I said something like that, analysing therir colors also, I was severely downboated. Thasts ok though, bevause im glad you noticed this also. It means that we are all upgrading out anti-bodysnatcher defenses by looking at their symbolic telegraphing
2 -INFOWARS- 2016-08-20
Another great post
3 911bodysnatchers322 2016-08-20
Thanks :)
2 sheasie 2016-08-20
I have noticed that Corbit is a bit of a risk-taker. As such, he does make mistakes, as we do.
Anything that rewards you with money to comment is essentially a shill machine.
2 petrus4 2016-08-20
It gets easier to spot these things, once you realise that Millennials are incapable of genuinely good ideas. Anything I see now that has been devised by anyone born after 1990, generally gets dismissed out of hand.
2 8n0n 2016-08-20
https://cointelegraph.com/news/steemit-new-social-media-platform-which-pays-you-to-post
No good for me, left fibbook in 08, though I could see this as a means of additional data mining.
Imagine the data intel value if all your Reddit comments were tied to your fibbook profile?
Some more interesting info here I picked up via another reddit sub.
1 petrus4 2016-08-20
The way to know whether or not Bitcoin is legit, is to ask if the powers that be would allow it, if it was really as subversive as is claimed. It unfortunately is not only the Left who can be blinded by wishful thinking; Bitcoin is a good example of conservatives and AnClaps who insist on believing in Father Christmas, when sanity dictates otherwise. I have considered Bitcoin (and truthfully cryptocurrencies more or less in general) a honeypot from day one, and have never gone near it.
If nothing else, Bitcoin has one major flaw; the blockchain, which is software's answer to the Nothing. It just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger, and eventually no one is going to be able to copy it or store it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG-lsrXKRM
Remember:- If the system wants something destroyed, then it gets destroyed. It's exactly like what Mark Twain said about voting. If Bitcoin was genuinely what it is claimed to be, it would not be permitted.
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1 Facts___ 2016-08-20
It will be interesting which decentralized social network will win the race.... It might be Synereo, but Steemit for sure not. There are some other projects but none of them are close to a full release yet. Let's wait and see.
5 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-08-20
Yeah this is a great post OP.
9 911bodysnatchers322 2016-08-20
Hey thanks guys. I appreciate the feedback. Keep enjoying them and I'll keep making them. I can tell you I'm working on a few things that may be a game changer. A visual board of our list of confirmed conspiracies. And a video.
1 petrus4 2016-08-20
You make it sound as though civility is normal among Reddit users.