The same old dog and pony show that gets run every year or two.
Avian Flu, Swine Flu, Ebola, Zika.
The existential threat that keeps people coming back for their regularly scheduled inoculations. Gives people something to keep the fear hamster wheel turning.
When a serious pandemic hits it won't be in the news till well after the damage is done.
I've always thought, what if they intentionally sensationalized those past "virus scares" you listed so that people will develop that exact mindset? A sort of "boy who cried wolf" scenario.
So they're going to use Zika, which has tenuous links to negative effects on a small percentage of pregnant women and their unborn children?
Ebola would have been far more useful as a depopulation tool if it is as effective in countries with running water as its reported to be in countries without infrastructure.
There's too much of a heads up for me to buy it. Messiahs tend to step in for souls in unexpected crisis, not warn publicly ahead of time. That's usually PR and advertising at work.
I've read somewhere that Zika is unique and can increase in virulence. I'm no virologist obviously, and I can't recall where I saw that, but if it's true, things could get out of hand quickly.
This is getting under reported. They are dumping thousands of these Zika infected Mosquitos across the states. By their own Stats they say 1 in 4 Puerto Ricans will have it.
NPR is running Zika 25% as much as Trump stories in my locality. Which is about as much as they were running Ebola.
What's your source on the mosquitoes being infected with Zika rather than the bacteria that makes the mosquitoes sterile and incapable of transmitting Zika?
Don't get me wrong, I'm open to the possibility. But this song and dance feels an awful lot like yesteryears top 40.
Eh, we've seen reporting on potential for GBS since at least January. Three deaths this year with Zika links in reportedly highly infected South & Central America.
Without some sources that can confirm the death toll is much higher than that reported, or that the rate of infection is much lower than reported, my concern will remain at Flu level. Skeptical, but open to change based on new information.
If so, my general assessment of pop culture is that it shares a lot in common with the Bible. Rife with allegory, touches on eternal truth, generally a poor compass regarding current events.
Perhaps. I find most popular entertainment to be degrading to my consciousness, so don't often consume it. An hour or two of NPR a week is about as much bullshit as I can stomach.
Yea. Unfortunately NPR is now completely scripted state run crap. It might have always been like that but now it's more noticeable when you see them defend election fraud.
This is 100% BS that it is under reported. If you feel it's under reported (I see it mentioned at least once an hour on my news stations), then you're not watching enough.
It's funny you mentioned Zika and paralysis and there was NO incidence of paralysis and the next day - one tenuous connection due to Guillain Barre blasted all over the media.
Please stop mundying the waters, there are people in the country that care about their fellow citizens. Even if you are getting paid to spread misinformation, can you leave this topic alone for the sake of saving lives?
Even if you are getting paid to spread misinformation
Please stop the personal attacks. You're the one spreading misinformation - intimidating, attacking, and accusing others of being paid (wtf) for noting this behavior or providing additional information/commenting on a thread we're all interested is fishy (and uncool) as fuck.
You know what also causes Guillain Barre? Certain vaccines. The flu. I.e., viruses. That Zika causes it as well is no surprise. I find it weird that you are pushing a specific narrative and accusing anyone who provides more information re:the vaccine testing and money train aspect of the Zika media onslaught totally fucked up.
This place is supposed to be a thinking ground not an attack-all-discussion-that-doesn't-match-my-theory-and-accuse-anyone-who-dares-add-a-little-color-a-shill ground.
Could you put a link to the zika death article in your self.text, and also the relevant timestamp(s) for the video? Actually, I just got to the point. It starts at about 8:20. Just to clarify, it says "2013 was practice, 2014 was the warm-up," but same general meaning I guess.
I'm not going to say I know your theory is wrong, but I will say it feels like a bit of a stretch. The 2013 practice/2014 warm-up slide is so vague as to seem applicable to almost anything in retrospect. It could be referring to Zika, but it could just as easily mean something else, or nothing in particular.
As far as Zika causing brain damage in adults, I think that conclusion might be a bit premature. The study was done in part by Rockefeller University, formerly Rockefeller Institute. Any time I see that name pop up, alarm bells go off. Check out James Corbett's excellent documentary on "Rockefeller Medicine" for more info on their connection with allopathic medicine.
I see this data point as fitting equally well with both the Zika-as-depopulation-agent and Zika-as-scare-tactic theories. If you need to try to make Zika a big scary threat, you need to make it seem scary for adults as well as pregnant women.
No Agenda has included Zika in a number of recent episodes, and their general theory seems to be that it's being used in part to get funds released that were initially meant for Ebola. Basically, a number of countries and NGOs pledge money to fight Ebola, but after the African epidemic was subdued, they didn't actually give that pledged money. They go over the numbers in their podcast, but their claim is that the amount of money Obama is asking for to fight Zika is the same amount of money pledged for Ebola that was never delivered. I don't know how to find the specific segments where they talked about it, but if you want, I can look them up for you.
Ultimately, I haven't made up my mind on this, though I do lean towards Zika as a scare tactic. That said, I think with any of these "Big Operations," there's a number prongs to the plan, and a number of benefits for the actors. I think this is certainly being used to move money around between certain players, and I think the GMO mosquitoes were in the works for a while, and needed a Big Problem to convince the public to roll them out. This iteration might even be benign, but laying the groundwork for a future rollout that will have some intended adverse effect.
The WHO shirt? Maybe. Or maybe it just means "who?" Do you have a timestamp? I'm not going to wade through that 20 min video again, and if you want more people to see what you're talking about, you should give timestamps for all the slides you're trying to point out. I'm not trying to be a dick here; this is just how you get more people to dig into this.
Also, the first death was reported today linking Zika and paralysis.
This is simply not true. It's the first reported Zika paralysis death reported in the US.
In Colombia, three people with Zika-associated GBS have died, and health officials are investigating six other deaths. The country typically reports 240 or so cases of GBS each year, but had 86 in just five weeks in December and January, a few months after Zika was identified in Colombia, according to the WHO.
I feel you. I did watch most of the video, and can see why you'd want people to watch it. But for someone who wants to just jump in and discuss the potential Zika connection, it's easier for them to get right to the relevant parts.
I had a friend in real life skip to just the Zika related parts and I felt it didn't hit him as hard.
When you see all the parts, it becomes clear that someone has a sinister agenda. Then you wonder why someone with a sinister agenda is behind the making of a Bieber video.
Your link from Bloomberg that says "zika may cause brain damage in adults too" uses its information from a study on mice, not humans. They even say so in the study.
Here is their source if you click on 'Cell Stem Cell Thursday'. So where is the link to adult brain damage? A video that makes a lot of claims with no evidence is not evidence, especially when all you can gather from the video is "2013 was practice, 2014 was the warm up" which could mean literally anything. You have 0 evidence they're talking about zika.
Just saying, actual evidence and sources are nice.
Yup he died from Guillain-Barré. 30 people out of 13,000+ Zika cases in Puerto Rico have Guillain-Barré. That's a 0.231% instance rate, which hardly represents a correlation. Now one out of 30 having died from Guillain-Barré is much higher, but it's still just one.
To be clear, my beef with your message was the video, not the Zika stuff.
I want you to understand that the illuminati stuff is a scam and a distraction to make people who question the narrative look insane.
They literally kill people in cold blood in plain sight. If you think for a second that they have to hide behind music videos, you're chasing the wrong tail. Your own.
You clearly have never truly met a detective and watch too much detective drama on tv. That's not whay they do. No mention of zika is in the video, just loltroll666.
I can't convince you because you see the magic connections, but really, you're reaching dude.
Your first mistake was believing the bullshit people post on YouTube.
Your second mistake was believing the bullshit written by the mainstream media.
The actual study was conducted on mice (which the article admits) but what the article doesn't point out:
The degree to which IFN-deficient mice model the extent and severity of flavivirus infection in humans is unknown. We recognize that healthy humans may be able to mount an effective antiviral response and prevent entry into the CNS, but it remains a possibility that some immunocompromised humans and even some apparently healthy humans may be susceptible in ways modeled by the TKO mice.
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NPR is running Zika 25% as much as Trump stories in my locality. Which is about as much as they were running Ebola.
What's your source on the mosquitoes being infected with Zika rather than the bacteria that makes the mosquitoes sterile and incapable of transmitting Zika?
Don't get me wrong, I'm open to the possibility. But this song and dance feels an awful lot like yesteryears top 40.
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9 resymbol 2016-08-21
My thoughts:
The same old dog and pony show that gets run every year or two.
Avian Flu, Swine Flu, Ebola, Zika.
The existential threat that keeps people coming back for their regularly scheduled inoculations. Gives people something to keep the fear hamster wheel turning.
When a serious pandemic hits it won't be in the news till well after the damage is done.
9 usaf9211 2016-08-21
I've always thought, what if they intentionally sensationalized those past "virus scares" you listed so that people will develop that exact mindset? A sort of "boy who cried wolf" scenario.
4 GooliusBloozer 2016-08-21
Very good point
3 resymbol 2016-08-21
So they're going to use Zika, which has tenuous links to negative effects on a small percentage of pregnant women and their unborn children?
Ebola would have been far more useful as a depopulation tool if it is as effective in countries with running water as its reported to be in countries without infrastructure.
There's too much of a heads up for me to buy it. Messiahs tend to step in for souls in unexpected crisis, not warn publicly ahead of time. That's usually PR and advertising at work.
1 usaf9211 2016-08-21
I've read somewhere that Zika is unique and can increase in virulence. I'm no virologist obviously, and I can't recall where I saw that, but if it's true, things could get out of hand quickly.
2 whipnil 2016-08-21
It's under a Rockerfeller patent.
1 dejeneration 2016-08-21
The fact that it suddenly appeared out of nowhere at the World Cup across the world from where it was first isolated is suspicious as hell, too.
1 CelineHagbard 2016-08-21
Do you have a source by chance?
0 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
This is getting under reported. They are dumping thousands of these Zika infected Mosquitos across the states. By their own Stats they say 1 in 4 Puerto Ricans will have it.
1 in 4 Puerto Ricans dead is a big deal.
3 resymbol 2016-08-21
Under reported?
NPR is running Zika 25% as much as Trump stories in my locality. Which is about as much as they were running Ebola.
What's your source on the mosquitoes being infected with Zika rather than the bacteria that makes the mosquitoes sterile and incapable of transmitting Zika?
Don't get me wrong, I'm open to the possibility. But this song and dance feels an awful lot like yesteryears top 40.
2 dejeneration 2016-08-21
Good insight on NPR - NPR gets a significant amount of funding from the Gates Foundation.
2 resymbol 2016-08-21
I find it interesting for seeing what narrative is being pushed to the teacher class.
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
They underreporting the danger. Think of it like this.
Originally they said it just effected newborns. Then seemingly overnight "a new study" showed that it effected adult brains as well.
Well guess what?
The website that holds the patent on the virus, has the characterised listed as paralysis and death.
https://www.atcc.org/products/all/VR-84.aspx
Click characteristics to see for yourself.
It was patented in 1947. There have most likely been extensive studies on the virus. They know exactly what it does.
It kills.
They have weaponized it.
The gm Mosquitos are a ploy to spread the virus.
2 resymbol 2016-08-21
Eh, we've seen reporting on potential for GBS since at least January. Three deaths this year with Zika links in reportedly highly infected South & Central America.
Without some sources that can confirm the death toll is much higher than that reported, or that the rate of infection is much lower than reported, my concern will remain at Flu level. Skeptical, but open to change based on new information.
0 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
How about the extremely worrying symbols in that video? Why does a Bieber video have that embedded in there? You don't find it deeply strange?
3 resymbol 2016-08-21
I prefer text to video, didn't watch it.
Justin Bieber?
If so, my general assessment of pop culture is that it shares a lot in common with the Bible. Rife with allegory, touches on eternal truth, generally a poor compass regarding current events.
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
Well, they hide the shit in entertainment.
1 resymbol 2016-08-21
Perhaps. I find most popular entertainment to be degrading to my consciousness, so don't often consume it. An hour or two of NPR a week is about as much bullshit as I can stomach.
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
Yea. Unfortunately NPR is now completely scripted state run crap. It might have always been like that but now it's more noticeable when you see them defend election fraud.
1 gregbarbosa 2016-08-21
This is 100% BS that it is under reported. If you feel it's under reported (I see it mentioned at least once an hour on my news stations), then you're not watching enough.
2 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
Okay, well... Under reported or not, the cause of this outbreak wasn't nature. It was criminal.
1 dejeneration 2016-08-21
It's funny you mentioned Zika and paralysis and there was NO incidence of paralysis and the next day - one tenuous connection due to Guillain Barre blasted all over the media.
0 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
Your spreading misinformation, don't do that please.
"Man Dies From Zika-Related Paralysis in Puerto Rico"
Source:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/zika-virus-outbreak/man-dies-zika-related-paralysis-puerto-rico-n634776
Please stop mundying the waters, there are people in the country that care about their fellow citizens. Even if you are getting paid to spread misinformation, can you leave this topic alone for the sake of saving lives?
1 dejeneration 2016-08-21
Please stop the personal attacks. You're the one spreading misinformation - intimidating, attacking, and accusing others of being paid (wtf) for noting this behavior or providing additional information/commenting on a thread we're all interested is fishy (and uncool) as fuck.
You know what also causes Guillain Barre? Certain vaccines. The flu. I.e., viruses. That Zika causes it as well is no surprise. I find it weird that you are pushing a specific narrative and accusing anyone who provides more information re:the vaccine testing and money train aspect of the Zika media onslaught totally fucked up.
This place is supposed to be a thinking ground not an attack-all-discussion-that-doesn't-match-my-theory-and-accuse-anyone-who-dares-add-a-little-color-a-shill ground.
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
K.
1 CelineHagbard 2016-08-21
Interesting. Another Rockefeller connection, from the link:
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
Someone noted that Zika means "overgrow". Which is ironic seeing as it's being used to shrink a population.
4 CelineHagbard 2016-08-21
Could you put a link to the zika death article in your self.text, and also the relevant timestamp(s) for the video? Actually, I just got to the point. It starts at about 8:20. Just to clarify, it says "2013 was practice, 2014 was the warm-up," but same general meaning I guess.
I'm not going to say I know your theory is wrong, but I will say it feels like a bit of a stretch. The 2013 practice/2014 warm-up slide is so vague as to seem applicable to almost anything in retrospect. It could be referring to Zika, but it could just as easily mean something else, or nothing in particular.
As far as Zika causing brain damage in adults, I think that conclusion might be a bit premature. The study was done in part by Rockefeller University, formerly Rockefeller Institute. Any time I see that name pop up, alarm bells go off. Check out James Corbett's excellent documentary on "Rockefeller Medicine" for more info on their connection with allopathic medicine.
I see this data point as fitting equally well with both the Zika-as-depopulation-agent and Zika-as-scare-tactic theories. If you need to try to make Zika a big scary threat, you need to make it seem scary for adults as well as pregnant women.
No Agenda has included Zika in a number of recent episodes, and their general theory seems to be that it's being used in part to get funds released that were initially meant for Ebola. Basically, a number of countries and NGOs pledge money to fight Ebola, but after the African epidemic was subdued, they didn't actually give that pledged money. They go over the numbers in their podcast, but their claim is that the amount of money Obama is asking for to fight Zika is the same amount of money pledged for Ebola that was never delivered. I don't know how to find the specific segments where they talked about it, but if you want, I can look them up for you.
Ultimately, I haven't made up my mind on this, though I do lean towards Zika as a scare tactic. That said, I think with any of these "Big Operations," there's a number prongs to the plan, and a number of benefits for the actors. I think this is certainly being used to move money around between certain players, and I think the GMO mosquitoes were in the works for a while, and needed a Big Problem to convince the public to roll them out. This iteration might even be benign, but laying the groundwork for a future rollout that will have some intended adverse effect.
Good post.
2 OrangeDeer 2016-08-21
Zika Zika Zika Zika Zika yeah!
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
He is wearing a World health organization shirt in one slide.
Also, the first death was reported today linking Zika and paralysis.
2 CelineHagbard 2016-08-21
The WHO shirt? Maybe. Or maybe it just means "who?" Do you have a timestamp? I'm not going to wade through that 20 min video again, and if you want more people to see what you're talking about, you should give timestamps for all the slides you're trying to point out. I'm not trying to be a dick here; this is just how you get more people to dig into this.
This is simply not true. It's the first reported Zika paralysis death reported in the US.
https://www.statnews.com/2016/02/09/guillain-barre-in-zika-patients/:
2 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
Thanks for the suggestion and clarification.
I feel like the whole video should he watched as it includes other really fucked up shit that shouldn't be in a music video.
1 CelineHagbard 2016-08-21
I feel you. I did watch most of the video, and can see why you'd want people to watch it. But for someone who wants to just jump in and discuss the potential Zika connection, it's easier for them to get right to the relevant parts.
2 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
I agree.
I had a friend in real life skip to just the Zika related parts and I felt it didn't hit him as hard.
When you see all the parts, it becomes clear that someone has a sinister agenda. Then you wonder why someone with a sinister agenda is behind the making of a Bieber video.
Then it opens up a bunch of doors.
2 whyd_you_kill_doakes 2016-08-21
Your link from Bloomberg that says "zika may cause brain damage in adults too" uses its information from a study on mice, not humans. They even say so in the study.
Here is their source if you click on 'Cell Stem Cell Thursday'. So where is the link to adult brain damage? A video that makes a lot of claims with no evidence is not evidence, especially when all you can gather from the video is "2013 was practice, 2014 was the warm up" which could mean literally anything. You have 0 evidence they're talking about zika.
Just saying, actual evidence and sources are nice.
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
Tell that to the dude who died in PR.
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/19/puerto-rico-zika-virus-paralysis-death
3 whyd_you_kill_doakes 2016-08-21
Yup he died from Guillain-Barré. 30 people out of 13,000+ Zika cases in Puerto Rico have Guillain-Barré. That's a 0.231% instance rate, which hardly represents a correlation. Now one out of 30 having died from Guillain-Barré is much higher, but it's still just one.
A lot more information is needed on Zika
1 Noxton 2016-08-21
To be clear, my beef with your message was the video, not the Zika stuff.
I want you to understand that the illuminati stuff is a scam and a distraction to make people who question the narrative look insane.
They literally kill people in cold blood in plain sight. If you think for a second that they have to hide behind music videos, you're chasing the wrong tail. Your own.
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
Okay, so let me ask you this. If you were a detective, would you not find it strange that whoever made this video, knew of these things in advance?
1 Noxton 2016-08-21
You clearly have never truly met a detective and watch too much detective drama on tv. That's not whay they do. No mention of zika is in the video, just loltroll666.
I can't convince you because you see the magic connections, but really, you're reaching dude.
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
There sure is. If you want I can explain it to you since your having trouble.
No problem!
1 perfect_pickles 2016-08-21
an accelerated mosquito born version of CJD !?
1 KiwiBattlerNZ 2016-08-21
Your first mistake was believing the bullshit people post on YouTube.
Your second mistake was believing the bullshit written by the mainstream media.
The actual study was conducted on mice (which the article admits) but what the article doesn't point out:
http://www.cell.com/cell-stem-cell/fulltext/S1934-5909(16)30252-1
In other words, they have no evidence that Zika virus affects human brains the way it affects these mice.
0 Fuckmeholdtight 2016-08-21
https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/4yup3z/the_collapse_of_education_mental_health/
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1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
Your going pretty hard to halt this info huh?
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
http://archive.is/MhaEX
3 resymbol 2016-08-21
Under reported?
NPR is running Zika 25% as much as Trump stories in my locality. Which is about as much as they were running Ebola.
What's your source on the mosquitoes being infected with Zika rather than the bacteria that makes the mosquitoes sterile and incapable of transmitting Zika?
Don't get me wrong, I'm open to the possibility. But this song and dance feels an awful lot like yesteryears top 40.
1 Lb3pHj 2016-08-21
There sure is. If you want I can explain it to you since your having trouble.
No problem!