It does get a bit depressing in here at times, doesn't it?

That's why I've advocated for a brighter cheerier theme to this subreddit for quite some time now. Conspiracy shouldn't be dark and ominous, but rather shining a light on the possibilities of a better world. Magnifying glass/weights of justice theme, rather than men in black trenchcoat and sunglasses theme, is more conducive to the vibe I'm going for. Good post OP.

change that theme maybe

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Well it depends on how you look at it.

How would you describe your time here so far?

Well, many articles on the front page just highlight all the things wrong in the world. It's tough to not give into a defeatest mentality.

Very true.

That's why average people have to understand propaganda and how they are able to be manipulated by nearly every aspect of their everyday life.

Exactly. You can't start pushing solutions until people realise there's a problem. They are in denial, and they have to be woken up first.

The thing is everyone IS already awake.

Denial is stage 1.

This is like they were just woken up by their.. Guardian for school, and are willfully choosing to stay asleep and miss the bell because they don't like the sound of that.

It especially bothers me that even though Trumps platform is a step forward against globalism, that all you hear is that he won't win, vote doesn't matter, and you are stupid for having any hope at all. Even after Nigel Farage and Brexit, people don't see that we can still turn things around.

I like the solution focused post, however your proposals require information that is intentionally kept secret.

We can't simply ignore the negative though, by just talking about all the good things, reality is ignored. We need to be real and speak the truth no matter how sour it is.

Also forget posting. Go do something that changes the world or your self for the better. We don't need change, change happens all the time no matter what. We want and need global revolution. Simple change is not enough anymore.

We'll talk more later I'm sure.

How about actually doing something instead of posts on this site :/

Most of us believe there is no other place more relevant than this place right now.

Then most of you would be wrong. So very, very wrong.

No, YOU are wrong. Tell me some other place online that is more relevant, or some physical place. Facebook? Myspace? 4Chan? Somethingawful?

Physical place:

DC. Ok, go there. Hold up a sign. Try to lobby a congressperson with your people money. We'll be rooting for you from our "useless armchairs". Meanwhile, we're cognitively reinfiltrating those who are infiltrating us. And THEY are the ones with the power. And THEY are the ones we're trying to influence

These 911 faither mindcontrolled bodysnatched zomboids who have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for this country in the last 15 yrs. They actually don't matter. Because you can't reach them. You can only reach those who are reachable. And so the people to focus on are the people who come here to harass us, and then those peopel who pop in to see what that's all about.

We must be more fascinating than everyone else. And the key thing is, we are. This is more interesting sub now than any I've ever seen on reddit, with CST and a few others a close second.

I realised after the first sentence this was going to be gibberish and stopped reading Sorry.

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Again. Not reading this.

I'm glad my consistent karma and dogma and rhetoric is threatening to you. I appreciate the feedback.

If you think I'm some kind of government or commercial shill you haven't been paying attention. OR if I am, then you should get behind that corporation because the quality of propaganda is so very good that it's threatening to mislead lots of people, more so even than standard issue shills, you said so yourself, that's why you're taking so much screen real estate to be whining about me. I mean you can't have your cake and eat it too--am I a shill or just a dangerous user who spends his whole day on reddit because he's disabled and living off private income, unemployed and doing this uncompensated like it's his job. Nooo that's unheard of. no one is unemployed in america and spending all day on reddit right now.. nonsense!

This was a bit ago.

I am a bit impulsive sometimes, I apologize.

I don't have it out for you man, I had no real reasoning for it. Didn't mean to take anger out on you.

I hope everyone will be able to see that sooner than later.

I don't think you understand. It's already over if you really think this. You're stuck in this "something will happen" mode, wating for someone to rescue you. There is no one to rescue you but yourself. Which means participate well or at least stop shutting us down psychologically with this 'nothing will happen by anyone' type or 'someone will rescue us' type attitude.

You should be figuring out your survival strategy. And if you want to keep fighting it's helpful to pick up a pen and keep fighting.

Keep in mind: the vets never protected ANY of your rights. Lawyers did. I'm not saying that makes me like lawyers any more, but you have to know who is destroying this country and it sounds like you don't.

I know that you have no idea who you are talking to, and that you misunderstand me.

I'm sure you have it all figured out, but don't put yourself on a high horse. You don't know nearly enough and certainly not as much as you think you do.

You'll get killed by a police, thrown in jail or end up with your car driving itself into a tree.

We've seen what happens to 'taking action' in this country. It doesn't work. Protest doesn't work. The litmus test is that over 6 MILLION people protested the war in Iraq in 2002-2003 in US alone, 36 Million worldwide. What did that accomplish? Did you know that many people participated? Of course you didn't. It wasn't in the news often.

You must first influence the larger public to give a damn.

You are making a judgment saying that this 'armchair activism' is invalid. But I 100% disagree. It's more important than standing out in the heat and pissing off a larger public to induce a police force that will beat you up and pepper spray you so that the news can make money talking about how foolish you were to dare to stand up to the establishment.

Get smarter. Faster. Nonlinear psychological warfare. Don't ask anyone here to take action. It draws even more attention to this sub and puts people here in actual danger from the government.

It should always be about the truth... good or bad.

simply talking nice isn't enough to elect real change. action is needed, or else all the talk about change is so much hot air and wasted energy.

I don't agree with you. I think talking is the most important thing. You just have to have fresh ideas to keep people engaged.

The protest of iraq wars in 2002-3 involved 36M people. Are there more than 36M people on /r/conspiracy? No there aren't. So if 36M people couldn't do it, why do you think YOU can.

You can't.

You have to change CULTURE. You change CULTURE by producing more CULTURE, and that involves talking, writing, if you don't have the power to raise an army. Even if you did, you don't bring swords to a drone fight. You have to know when you're totally totally totally globally outmatched by AI programs and advanced weaponry. You raise your sword and you're vaporized.

So stop this not-well-thought-out idea (GOES FOR ALL OF YOU) of taking some kind of action.

Because when you propose that, it does a couple things:

1. ) it draws unnecessary attention from the government
2. ) it draws more agents provocateur (ex: people who incite others to 'action')
3. ) it scares tourists from thinking we're oathkeeper types forming a militia, when we aren't.

protesting does nothing. the methods that need to be taken to elicit real change doesn't even require 1 million people. no one ever said an army needs to be raised, and your desire to focus on such a stupid idea makes you appear very shilly. you can take money from the corrupt without fighting them.

No. We need to look at the world as it is now, as well as to think about how it could be in the future. We need to hold criminals responsible for their crimes. We need to be rational and scientific about our problems, not just all hope and dreams.

Some things you can do:

1) Buy a gun. Keep it someplace safe, but then report it stolen.

2) Buy a drone and a GoPro and learn how to operate them.

3) Set up multiple shadow identities.

4) Carry a camera with you at all times. Do not rely on your phone! Cops with Stingrays can hack it; no doubt the NSA can delete your stuff remotely if they feel like it.

5) Learn about critical infrastructure in your area.

6) Get a vehicle with good ground clearance and practice ramping it over drainage ditches in case you have to evade a road block.

7) Periodically expose your naked body to EMP energy to short out any chips that may have been implanted in you.

8) Spend one weekend a month in a remote area with nothing but a large knife, just in case.

Damn bro, I don't think I have any chips that have been surreptitiously implanted on me, is this still 2016? Maybe I'm just a boring guy but are you really dealing with that? The only chips that I know people carry around with them is their phone, and in my opinion its really the only chip the NSA needs.

dont feed the trolls

9) Carry a lifestraw and a bushcraft knife --know basic firemaking and sheltermaking

10) Know basic weeds you can eat without cooking. Here are 2 examples: lambs quarters, and the sorrels

about #5) find solar plants and be ready to steal the panels.

Buh-but I got a post removed from a default sub yesterday... it's VERY important everyone know this. CENSERSHIP!!

nobody can agree on solutions, so we might as well hold the problems up to the light.

Yeah, I hate people who just complain. If you don't have a complete and well defined solution, which is backed by academic peer review and agreed upon by a majority of stakeholders from each area of concern, then STFU!

It's like my mom. All she could ever do is complain about her cancer - never even tried to invent a cure. No wonder she died from it, amirite?

I made a post about having a meet up with people in our local cities a while ago. The way I was treated for posting that, I can't believe I even still come around. I'm paranoid too damn it, but life is about taking risk. 2 things we can't change things by ourselves. And upvotes dont plant trees.

Speaking from a historical perspective, I'm not aware of any culture that has recovered from corruption. As depressing as it is, the system must collapse under the weight of the corrupt before it changes.

A lot of that is what we are encouraging over at /r/AlternativeHistory. You may enjoy it, give it a looksy..

pay with excess money.

Post about love and forgiveness

You trying to get killed for 30 pieces of silver?

What if we need to call attention to things that are still wrong with the world?

Post about the open source direct democratic revolution, not rage at the current system.

Thanks for this, OP. It's rare to hear anyone on the Internet speak of love and forgiveness. The Internet is often an incredibly immature place where egotism prevails over all, so to hear that is very refreshing. I'm so used to the shit flinging on here that my first thoughts sadly are to try to disagree with you, but no, you're right. Being positive will bring us together.

What about understanding a problem before you try solve it?

We need to highlight the fuckery so more people can wake up. We as a sub need to be more welcoming to new people, and need to stop acting like ass holes to people that don't know what we think they should know.

Edit and fuck Alex jones

You want change?

I only have 20s.

Post about whistleblowers, not liars cheats and politicians.

Nah, I'll keep posting about the people doing the lying instead of limited hangouts.

Post about free energy and the technologies that can change the world

So not free energy, since that's impossible.

Post about love and forgiveness, not hate and sadness.

Not having a balance of emotions is unhealthy.

A grandfather is talking with his grandson and he says there are two wolves inside of us which are always at war with each other.

One of them is a good wolf which represents things like kindness, bravery and love. The other is a bad wolf, which represents things like greed, hatred and fear.

The grandson stops and thinks about it for a second then he looks up at his grandfather and says, “Grandfather, which one wins?”

The grandfather quietly replies, the one you feed

Of course it is.

That last bit about emotions screams SJW. cringe

No, what screams SJW is deluding yourself into thinking you must be happy at all times and at all costs. Fuck happiness if it's a lie. Fuck peace if it means war. Fuck forgiveness if it means genocide.

What do you think a "safe space" is?

You want good change? Start lobbying for more energy use per individual. The more energy we use, the better our quality of life and the greater our degree of personal freedom. We are being constrained in an energy straitjacket precisely to prevent this. And the progressives are tightening the buckles on that jacket with their alternative "green" energy bullshit. What "green" energy means is less energy use per person, and that means less personal power, less personal freedom.

That might be one of the dumbest things I've read here.

Lolololol agreed. I think the proposed carbon tax is some biggidy bullshit but I seriously doubt further energy consumption is the answer we're looking for.

Hell I kinda like it. Its happening anyway and efficiency gains will only come around if needed. If energy storage ever has a eureka moment this wont even be a concern.

I think he's coming from the angle that most of our resource scarcity is a farce and that we have enough in the world for everyone already but of course, a few psycho assholes want the world to themselves.

what exactly are we supposed to do with "more energy"?

Seems people don't get what you mean, so I will help with an exaggerated example: How much personal research would Tesla have been allowed under our current conditions? No way he would have been allowed to experiment with the city electrical grid.

It's the same concept about keeping everyone in or near poverty so that all their efforts are on surviving instead of creating, or exploring, or you know... living.

Post about whistleblowers, not liars cheats and politicians.

No.

edit: politicians are already unaccountable in our society, and doing nothing about it hasn't gotten us very far, has it? Singing Kumbaya and not even mentioning wrongdoing will only accelerate their thievery. I can't believe I have to explain this to other adults.