I think this is plausible, but you are assuming that Musk is on our side. I believe he is a gatekeeper.

He is in on this. He is the reassurance to the people that the private sector is so close to achieving civilian space travel, solar energy, and cars that can run without oil. He will continually fail in these efforts.

Either he is a good guy and he's being sabotaged, or he is part of the scheme. I lean towards the latter.

Either way I do not believe this was an accident.

They've been trying to sabotage this guy since the early days of Tesla

A gatekeeper? That's a generous term for a guy who lives on Billions of Government welfare for Solar City and Spacex. Musk is a well paid Tool. He is bound by military industrial nondisclosure contracts with NASA just as Lockheed Martin and others are.

Like I said many times, every fake secretive launch, every private space venture that fails, and 50 years of going nowhere suggests we have serious problems with space Travel.

And we can't collectively with all the smart people fix it, if it's bound by secrecy and military control. Space has been fiction for 50 years, it won't change unless we demand the Truth.

Just to add for OP: In my opinion, every publicized successful Spacex Launch was CGI laden bullshit..and then they go back to real launches and the same problems with rocket pay loads that Virgin Galactic proved to be difficult. But since they can't have the public face continuous private rocket failures with putting NASA rockets in doubt, so they fake successful ones, here and there. The Public will never know cause all they have EVER shown about Space was animated on computer.

How do they get payloads to the International Space Station if it's all "faked"?

Who needs to worry about Payloads when you film your spacewalks in a deep pool hollywood set designed by famous set director. Not a swimming designed by deep aquatic environment diving engineers, but a Hollywood set director. That should make you think...hmmm....it must be used for filming, faking spacewalks And now after years of space fanatics claiming they see ufo in the space, we realized its just water bubbles, and deep pool organisms that floating around them. Now, they don't even hide the snorkeling sounds or items moving water trajectory motion....

Nobody can possibly be dumb enough to believe this shit.

You can see the fucking space station from earth with NO OPTICS.

So you think they can't fake that too? Some high altitude balloon could be there.

You can see the entire structure, the outstretched solar arrays, with merely a pair of binoculars. It moves incredibly rapidly across the sky, much faster than any balloon could possibly be conceived to travel, and why? Because it is in low earth orbit and to maintain the altitude that it does requires immense velocity.

No, I do not think it can be faked and I do not think literally tens of thousands of people who have been intimately involved with the command and control of the program from countries all over the earth are ALL unilaterally "in on it".

How do you think the GPS system in your phone works if we can't get anything into orbit?

The Manhattan project had 130,000 people and everyone didn't have a clue, so your logic is completely flawed.

sure, they didnt have a clue russians were spying on them.....

Explain the gps though?

GPS bounces waves off the Ionsphere, no sats needed.

It's fucking willful ignorance for you to pretend that thousands of employees who works for NASA and the military industrial secret tech departments are not under non disclosure agreements, that their very lives and income depend upon.

There is a Japanese company that will create a shooting star in the sky anywhere in the World for you. And you fucking still think that blinking bullshit lights is proof NASA or Musk doing space travel, and think both who gets trillions aren't faking Space when all evidence suggests they are clearly fabricating their photos, and missions.

You know what? people who believe in NASA are also stupid enough to believe office fires in WTC 7 pulverized steel columns in free fall speeds. I don't expect much from the average joe like you, you are incapable of free thought outside the lies you are brainwashed with day in day out . You just waste my time. You just keep waiting for that Mars scam mission and pretending like the Frauds at Langley are taking photos of Jupiter when all you just watched was 1988 grade cgi animation made by guys like Robert Simmons. I have nothing against Simmons, at least Simmons knows Blue Marble is his own drawing. but the fools who believe that it's a photo of earth? LOL. Willful blindness!

The only one wasting time and life force is your dumb ass. Still can't explain how GPS works in your shitty version of reality, but I wouldn't expect you need it to find your dick in your mom's basement, even between your seven and a half belly folds of lard.

Talk to me when you fucking wake up. You are in a conspiracy forum Validating your indoctrination. Have a nice night. Why bother even being here?

If you care to investigate, you would find out that every supposedly space tech has a terrestrial based replicating technology that mirrors their function in space.

1.Satellites replicated by Cell towers, everywhere, when you leave their trianglation, you lose connection.

2.Hubble telescope,replicated by Sophia: a terrestrial plane mounted telescope, exact replica of its specs.

3.GPS: replicated by bouncing signals off high altitude balloons thousands being launched by NASA, Google, and facebook.

Do some research, if you really want truth buddy.

Yeah, I'm on a conspiracy board to participate in discourse related to happenings for which the most reasonable explanation necessitates the existence of a "conspiracy", not to indulge every lunatic that wants to invent a version of science that's contradictory to every available real world data point that exists. But by all means, since you're the leading mind on this matter, go in front of Congress and expose the millions worldwide that have taken their secrets to the grave for the fraud they really are. What a joke.

I'm assuming you have also seen new Chinese footage of their space station "walks" too?

you know you can go outside in some place of the world and see the space station bare eye in the sky.

Are you Trump? What a bullshit!

I've dove in the NASA Neutral Buoyancy Lab and been in the control room for the international space station. It's all real dude.

they dont lol. ISS is bullshit and obviously faked.

It's in low earth orbit. You can literally view it even without the assistance of enhanced optics.

Just walk out of the basement and look up if you doubt it.

Keep telling yourself that.

The breakaway civ has a space navy bud. That's why us worms aren't allowed up there. Its for them.

Well articulated. I hope that we live to see through the veil. Something is going on with space/space travel.

I agree with you totally... I have information that is damning evidence it wasnt an accident.... funny thing is I thought Elon was on our side.... but its not looking like he is either... this is a race between elites

I'd be interested to hear more about this evidence.

I mean, you could intentionally sabotage the rocket w a Trojan horse satellite that's actually a mini bomb.... Set some people back a good bit w their mission.

slow it down to .25, very telling

Why the squeak, which happens before the bang? You can hear the audio here. https://spaceflightnow.com/2016/09/09/musk-no-answers-so-far-in-difficult-failure-investigation/

Sounds like something failing. If it was sabotage surely you'd just have the bang?

I was a Navy Diver for six years, worked with EOD most of my career (bombs), and worked with NASA on developing procedures for ocean recovery of the Orion Deep Space Capsule.

I think this was very likely sabotage by either the US government or a corporate competitor. I mean think about it, SpaceX competes with serious international corporations and powerful nations. Most of which manufacture drones and hi-tech weapons systems... If one of them wanted to blow up the rocket and leave no trace they would need to hit it with a high explosive shell that has no propellant. To do this you would need a high powered rifle and sniper at relatively close range, or use a weapons system (drone, missile, etc) that flies in close proximity to the rocket, then fires an incendiary round at the rocket with laser and computer guided precision as it flies by. This would most likely leave no trace. Something like an RPG is way too visible and leaves tons of evidence after exploding. Am I making any sense?

WELL, WELL WELL, WHAT DO YOU KNOW????

"Boeing-Lockheed venture raises SpaceX explosion in fight over Pentagon contract" https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/boeing-lockheed-venture-raises-spacex-explosion-in-fight-over-pentagon-contract/2016/09/21/b6907fa8-7f7e-11e6-9070-5c4905bf40dc_story.html

You cant make this sht up! The failed launch in 2015 was never determined what the cause was, only that a strut could have broke, but there is no sane reason to conclude why it ought to have broken, they couldnt find a underperforming strut, only after trying to basically recreate the failure did a strut fail.

This explosion also had no reason at all to occur, SpaceX is a safe flyer, you dont see airplanes inexplicably exploding or disintegrating. No this clearly stinks of vested interest, clandestine ops and sabotage. SpaeX is an extremely capable launch provider, and shows how awful government/ULA spaceflight is, since theyve been running circles around them for like years.

Trust me, Elon is a man of the people, he's a little in the dark on climate change, but his heart is in the right place.

Fucking New world order!!!!

CALLED IT!

Didn't know where else to post it.

/r/C_S_T is a good place for conspiracy discussion.