My two cents: Homosexuals are being turned away from Christian places of worship because they are sinners, right? The doctrine that Christian's follow insists that we are ALL sinners, no?

So why the fuck are all the other sinners welcome to church and a chance at salvation, but gays aren't?? That makes absolutely no sense, and a church that doesn't pay taxes should rightfully be sued if they refuse to offer anyone a chance at salvation. I'm not saying that people who cause disruptions and can't handle themselves during an hour long service shouldn't get kicked out, but gays who are just going there to worship do not fall under that demographic.

WW2 was about preventing the Axis powers from conquering the world, the genocide of Jews, Gypsys, Gays and Armenians really wasn't known until very late in the war and was not a motivating factor for the war.

WW2 was about preventing the Axis powers from conquering the world

1. They had no desire to do this.
2. They did not act on this claim.

the genocide of Jews, Gypsys, Gays and Armenians really...

...didn't happen.

was not a motivating factor for the war.

He's not discussing that. He's discussing their actions SINCE.

What he's trying to say is no soldier fought to free the Jews etc. from mass murder. They fought for their country and to stop the "bad guys". The Holocaust wasn't really known to anyone until after the war.

What he's trying to say is no soldier fought to free the Jews etc.

Ah, fair enough.

The Holocaust wasn't really known to anyone until after the war.

Nearly two decades after, in fact.

So the camps that people found as they liberated countries just didn't exist?? That's a silly claim, friend. Hell, even America had concentration camps for the Japanese; why don't you believe that the Nazis had them?

So the camps that people found as they liberated countries just didn't exist?? That's a silly claim

Good thing no one made it, genius. Try the FUCK again.

You're clearly the genius here. /s

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Listen, you're making a joke out of yourself. You strawman'd me first, and I returned it in kind.

There is plenty of proof for concentration camps. Plenty of it. Go visit one, read one of the journals of the soldiers who uncovered them. Listen to Nazi officers CONFESS to their existence. For God's sake your mind is SHUT, and it is embarrassing to see another human being acting that way.

I'm just trying to help you, genius.

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I will read your novels in a moment, but your constant insults here tell me that you have nothing of substance to respond with.

Nothing. You're just saying "no u" and hurling around ironic insults like "You stupid illiterate."

I'll do you the respect of reading those PM's, but you need to learn how to interact like a human being.

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I guess I was just asking for trouble!

Fuck off and stick to your own losing argument.

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The only thing I've said here is that the concentration camps were as real as the Armenian genocide. That wasn't an argument, it was a fact.

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That's a silly claim, friend.

Nobody claimed anything of the sort. Please desist from misrepresenting other users.

The term "holocaust" in relation to the treatment of the Jews in WW2 did not become widespread until the 1970s, and can be attributed largely to the broadcast of this miniseries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_(miniseries)

Neither Churchill, de Gaulle, or any wartime leader used the term when writing about their wartime years.

Hey man, if you'll look at the actual conversation I attempted to have with this guy, I never even brought up the word Holocaust....

Just so you know. He claimed that there were no concentration camps, and no deaths at said camps; I simply stated that he was wrong.

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really

Yes, which is why I said it.

The American liberators made sure that residents of Dachau and other towns were forced to confront the horrors of the concentration camps. According to Harold Marcuse, in his book "Legacies of Dachau," after the liberation a group of Dachau Nazi elite was forced to tour the Dachau crematorium on 8 May 1945.

Okay. People died in the camps. Your point is what?

Holy shit you are so fucking dumb. You must have never opened a history book in your fucking life you ignorant piece shit.

Great argument. Meanwhile not a word of that proves your claims, and my statement still stands, since Shoah was the first meaningful discussion of a "genocide".

Just replying to this to cite where you said the Armenian genocide didn't happen! Seeing as you were a bit confused in the PMs.

:)

Peace!

If the Jews understand the OT and realize that homosexuality is not an abomination, shouldn't we Christians? After all, Jesus was a Jew.

Edit: meaning OT is Torah

If the Jews understand the OT

Ooh, do you think that the jews "believe everything we do, except the new testament"? Because news flash: they don't believe the Old Testament. They don't even believe in the Torah anymore. The Talmud is all that governs their lives.

homosexuality is not an abomination

lol what the fuck are you smoking

After all, Jesus was a Jew.

Boy, you are brainwashed. They got to you good.

Wow, you are ignorant as hell.

No argument, then. No refutation. Not a damn thing. READ THE BIBLE, kid. It doesn't say what you claim it says.

I'm sorry, can your read????

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Well, that's just stupid. Either they are G-D's chosen, or G-D is a liar. Can't have both.

Either they are G-D's chosen, or G-D is a liar. Can't have both.

First of all,

we Christians

and yet

G-D

You're doing a fucking terrible job of blending in, moishe. You just destroyed every single aspect of your statements. Second of all, the jews broke the covenant. You know those loan papers you love to draw up so much? Notice how there's a fuckton of fine print therein? Of course you do; you relish in putting it there. Notice that in that fine print there are clauses which protect the debtor from abuse by the bank, but ALSO protect the bank from damage by the debtor.

Know why? Because if EITHER party breaks the agreement, the agreement is off. God (OY FUCKING VEY, the whole word! And not even YHWH, because your demon isn't God) made an agreement with the jews. They were to follow certain terms, and in return received His protection. They broke the agreement by refusing to abide by the terms. Thus the covenant was broken, the jews were kicked out of the Holy Land, and roamed the Earth ever since.

The establishment of Israel had absolutely nothing to do with God or His promises and everything to do with the works of ✡man✡.

But you know all this already. I'm just telling everyone else so they're not caught up in your lies.

I'm curious, are you mad though?

Thanks for confirming every word I said.

Not even trolling now. Jews are sealed, chosen, beloved. Are you a Christian? Real question.

Jews are sealed, chosen, beloved

The synagogue of Satan will burn with him. Probably in the same way they claim Jesus is burning. God created irony, after all.

Also, if Jesus was called "Rabbi", what denomination are you thinking he was? Oh, Mr. R/iamverysmart ?

what denomination are you thinking he was

Obviously Presbyterian. ;P

Checks out. Lol

Genesis 12:3

Thanks for quoting the covenant. Too bad it was broken by the jews. There is a new covenant.

Explain how they broke the covenant. My Rabbi friend most certainly follows Torah. Does he practice symbolic tradition in order to honor G-D? Yes. But that does not blasphemy make.

Explain how they broke the covenant.

Say 'we,' kiddo. You were exposed already. Just say 'we.'

My Rabbi friend

You know Shlomo, too?!

I've read through your comment posts. We will never agree on anything. There is no logic to be had with a bigoted Holocaust denier.

I've read through your comment posts.

Thanks for admitting you have absolutely no argument whatsoever.

We will never agree on anything.

Because you can do absolutely nothing but lie.

There is no logic to be had with a bigoted

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR YOU WILL NEVER LISTEN I REFUSE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR BUT YOU ARE THE BIGOT NOT ME

Zero self awareness, as usual.

Holocaust denier.

Thank you for admitting the holocaust did not happen, moishe. By refusing to answer my questions on the subject, you prove the inaccuracy of the statements therein.

Your copy pasta from your other posts, does not an argument make.

Your argument for Revelation 3:9 does not condemn Jews. In fact, Revelation 21:12 refutes your argument nicely. Why would G-D have the 12 tribes inscribed had they been banished?

Also, you state frequently that the Jews follow Talmud. Do you listen to pastors, priests, read biblical commentary? Talmud is from Rabbinical texts used as a guide for daily living.

Your argument for Revelation 3:9 does not condemn Jews.

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Uh, learn how to read.

Revelation 21:12

And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

And your claim is completely destroyed.

Why would G-D

Oy fucking vey.

Talmud is from Rabbinical texts used as a guide for daily living.

The Talmud is the holy book. The Torah is a bunch of "stories", not taken as gospel by jews. And don't start your fucking pilpul about the use of the word 'gospel'; you know what I mean when I say that.

"Which say they are Jews, and are not" read it again. Maybe have someone read it to you. Perhaps you comprehend orally.

You are inaccurate on the Talmud. It helps them put Torah to use in daily life.

”Which say they are Jews, and are not" read it again.

Yes, fucking read it again.

You are inaccurate on the Talmud. It helps them put Torah to use in daily life.

Nah, I proved you wrong. Get over it.

So, I'm done arguing a point we'll never agree on. I think you are wrong, you think I'm wrong. Nothing to learn here as we are all set. But, I am curious, the 144,000 sealed Jews, you discount them? Did G-D forget he banished them and that's a typo?

Nothing to learn here as we are all set.

You’re wrong and I’ve proven it. Fuck off.

Ahhhh, so the 144,000 Jews do not fit your rhetoric eh?

We’re not discussing your garbage. Try again.

That's a yes then. You have no argument for them. Game, set, match. pats head Better luck next time, kiddo.

Thanks for admitting you were incorrect.

Take care, kiddo.

Holohoax. Christians worship a make believe Arab. Religion inspires you to hate other human beings with a fake god different than your fake god. Don't be so impressionable, religion is nothing but an instrument of mass social control. Pure Insanity.

WW2 was about preventing the Axis powers from conquering the world

1. They had no desire to do this.
2. They did not act on this claim.

the genocide of Jews, Gypsys, Gays and Armenians really...

...didn't happen.

was not a motivating factor for the war.

He's not discussing that. He's discussing their actions SINCE.

Checks out. Lol

really

Yes, which is why I said it.

The American liberators made sure that residents of Dachau and other towns were forced to confront the horrors of the concentration camps. According to Harold Marcuse, in his book "Legacies of Dachau," after the liberation a group of Dachau Nazi elite was forced to tour the Dachau crematorium on 8 May 1945.

Okay. People died in the camps. Your point is what?

Holy shit you are so fucking dumb. You must have never opened a history book in your fucking life you ignorant piece shit.

Great argument. Meanwhile not a word of that proves your claims, and my statement still stands, since Shoah was the first meaningful discussion of a "genocide".

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”Which say they are Jews, and are not" read it again.

Yes, fucking read it again.

You are inaccurate on the Talmud. It helps them put Torah to use in daily life.

Nah, I proved you wrong. Get over it.

That's a yes then. You have no argument for them. Game, set, match. pats head Better luck next time, kiddo.