Yes there's an effort to derail, obfuscate, ambiguate legitimate ideas and groups. All the time. They'll copy tactics and try to look like the things they're trying to subvert. Here's the thing - when you're not acting out of fear, and with genuine care for others, you're led to the truth anyway. If you seek the truth, you'll thank the disinfoists for any smells (often legitimate!) they send your way. They're doing legwork for you. Just don't get caught up in models of division, be responsible-minded, and you'll be fine.

There is a lot of fear mongering going on here which in itself is bad for your psyche and turns people away or to inaction. I think fear is the achilles heal. While it is necessary to wake people to the urgency of the matters we face, we should be weary of being bogged down with fear!

I'd much rather people be afraid than not caring at all.

I'd rather be dead than live in fear. Fuck that.

I'm not advocating living in fear. But fear motivates people to wake up, and allows them to progress to better ways of managing the truth.

Yea.. they come out whenever your too close. They seem strange. They can't relate to humanity or emotion or critical thinking. Tells you your on the right path.

This dynamic has been going on full-steam since the public largely rejected the Warren Commission farce in 1964.

Has it always been this slow at r/conspiracy? With so many subscribers you'd think this sub would be more active.

Think lots lurk

Many of the older members have also quit reddit and this sub. We've lost many to shadow bans, the sub numbers will always be inflated.

Admins did a purge of inactive accounts earlier this year. I think we lost around 20k then.

Ah, good to know.

Lot of alt accounts too. It's considered stigmatic to participate here in many of the pro-war, authority worshiping "mainstream" subreddits.

Yeah, this one is my anon one for stuff I'm interested in, like this sub. My other one engages with the more 'respectable' subs and discussions whigh tend to involve people I know IRL. I prefer this account though and use it more.

Occasionally you find gems, and that's the only reason I come here, to get my share of affirmation. I still am completely unable to do anything about the situation. There are times I tried being vocal, but nothing good ever came out of it. Hence I stopped and am so passive to what is going on lately, putting my energy in my career and future. Sometimes I couldn't give two shits and feel like humanity deserves the fate that is coming for us. I don't really know what else to do. I see so many good people here try to wake people up and inspire and motivate the community. I really admire those people that still put up a fight, but overall its been a downhill slope.

I don't really know what else to do.

Do you own a rifle and know how to use it?

No and I never will. What am i gonna do with a gun anyway? The powers that are destroying this world have drones and nuclear bombs. They will laugh at my stupid little gun.

They will laugh at my stupid little gun.

The Russians laughed at the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, and their stupid little World War I rifles.

I'm with you, it's a sign thathat we are closer to getting fucked.

Tptb can go ahead with nwo knowing full well that any leaked info gets lost in the piles of garbage.

In this thread: the most meta-schills you will ever encounter as a conspiracy nut.

Flat earthers come to mind as shills.

Yep. There's some of that in this thread.

Here is something I been working on they have really been trying to bury. I think it hits too close to home.

It goes like this.

Humanity is used for parts, blood, testing or toys.

In the past we were straight up slaves. Our masters used free energy ( the pyramids of Giza, the pyramids of the grand canyon ). Eventually, the slaves rebelled or weren't usable for the purpose required due to stress.. ( animals in captivity have high stress levels and don't act natural ).

The pyramids in the grand canyon were destroyed and the history hidden for obvious purposes. It was then gutted and we were told it was water erosion ( it wasn't ).

So the next iteration of slavery we were given the illusion of free will and the illusion of choice.

This is why all presidents are decided for us.

We are contained in a controlled environment. This is why NASA lies about space. Think of a huge terrarium.

Whomever runs this joint is able to flood it and start over again.

Who knows how many times this process had to be restarted with changes made to keep the illusion of free will working nominally.

The idea of religion and free will was most likely started by our masters.

I have a feeling this iteration is about to come to an end because they are losing control.

I also think a certain bloodline of people are gatekeepers of this place. Maybe they have direct contact/connections with the owners of this place off world.

I think the gatekeepers have a guide on how this whole thing plays out ( the bible end times ). Even though it's not true, they have to follow this storyline. It's the blueprints they were given to start the next iteration of this human zoo we are in.

The Masons, the satanists and the jews are pawns for something bigger. They are the curtain hiding the wizard of Oz.

It's a bunch of fail-safes to not see who is really running the show.

The pyramids line up to start constellations for a reason. These pyramids are all over the earth. Our masters tell us they are just tombs and they hide the real history.

Who knows how many times resets were performed. Their goal is to have a natural habitat where the human doesn't suspect containment.

The truth is trickling out so I suspect a reset soon.

Many just think this is rich greedy people behind this. I think it's much bigger than that.

Spit balling here, I think that CERN is a working portal device. Probably to usher gatekeepers to other areas in the universe. Maybe to areas the pyramids point to in the sky. I think off world civilizations exist and gatekeepers are in the know.

The whole Cern sacrifice thing is just disinformation to make people think satanists are behind this. It's a show to hide what is really going on.

We live on a prison planet or plane or who the fuck knows. Some advanced space terrarium that serves the needs of another advanced civilization. For some reason I don't think we can comprehend how advanced that civilization is.

Any current tech we have now has been around for probably thousands of years and just trickled out to us to conform to a timeline that's predetermined.

For some reason our masters dont want us knowing that the star Sirius was important to our past. One of the reasons the Sphinx was defaced and the dog head was replaced with a human head. They also never make mention that the pyramids are aligned with a star system. All of them, the ones in Egypt and the ones on North America.

Some more info:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CgOa2eccPVk

This info is buried because it throws off the narrative that ancient Egyptians were a primitive people. They were highly advanced and harnessed free electricity.

Source:

http://m.harunyahya.com/en/Technological-Advances-of-Ancient-Ages/13770/light-bulbs-were-used-for

Here is a scientist explaining how the pyramids could have been used as free energy devices:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6UxY7cxPABg

Yes they are here. I won't call out the exact user but this guy was ripping on my idea's of a concave earth and would not even research anything just claiming I am an idiot. They. Are. Here.

Edit: I know he's not a shill, he's just an idiot.

I don't think rejection of Concave Earth theory without investigation necessarily indicates shilling. It requires a certain world view to begin questioning things like cosmology. Most people do not consider deceptions of that scale possible so looking at the details is not necessary for them.

You can send a small rocket into space with a gopro and see for yourself the shape of the earth. Relatively easy to do, anybody can do it with a thousand bucks or so.

You can also view youtube footage of many others who have done so. There is a problem with this, however. The video is a long range visual observation and it must be interpreted in the context of the behavior of light within the atmosphere. When our brain interprets images it makes the assumption of straight light.

But light does not travel in straight lines through the atmosphere, it bends upwards and we need to interpret images with this in mind. Here is an experiment with surveying devices which demonstrates this behavior: http://www.wildheretic.com/bendy-light-the-evidence/#Theodolites

You can do it for like $100 with a balloon.

Lol or that too.

I'm not a shill and I believe a lot of things here. But dude the earth is a sphere. For proof you can take photos yourself where mountains or large building are partially hidden due to the curvature on the earth. I will gladly read you proof though and offer counterpoints. I just don't see the point of faking something like the shape of the earth. What does it achieve? I get hiding things like ufo's which I've seen but why would they lie about that? What is the purpose? If the earth was concave we could see things from a much greater distance.

I'm about 95% sure that account is a troll.

Dude look at my post history. Lol I rarely come here but it annoys me people focus on things like the earths shape when there are much more important problems.

I don't think cashcow1 was talking about you...

Not you, the other guy.

Lol I fed the troll. Damn

Does your mountain analogy also apply to skyscrapers? Demonstrate this with a picture of the burj dubai. Go on....

If you think if it's possibly the other way you realize it'd be the exact same results. The earth is a sphere, but we live on the inside of the earth. You can see too far for us to be on the outside.

Explain this, I've seen it in person

That is photoshopped.

Lmao you people are hopeless you can see this yourself at the beach. Ships dissapear in the horizon. If the earth was concave they would appear to be moving up and we would be able to see much further. You people think we live in a Dyson Sphere, I wish reality were that cool.

Ships disappear over the horizon because of perspective my friend. You see the ship getting smaller and smaller until it's gone. Why does this simple physics perplex you so much?

Interesting. I don't believe in NASA and couldn't care enough to find out the true shape of the earth on my own. All I know for fact is that NASA and the space agencies are a lying sack of shit.

I've always liked the "You are on a rock hurtling through space at speeds exceeding 65,000 mph".

But bummer you can't feel it... not even if you travel across from the equator to the north pole where theoretically you are rotating slower than at the equator. You just have to believe! Sound similar?

You don't feel it because you are not accelerating, but going a constant speed. It's the exact same thing as going 150 mph on the highway in a car, from your perspective, if doesn't seem like you are moving.

Buddy, when i'm going at 150mph I can feel myself moving. Not sure what the fuck you are talking about.

No you can't, this is because the human body doesn't feel speed. The human body can only feel acceleration, whether it is positive or negative acceleration. If all of your senses of sight and hearing where cut off, you would not be able to tell if you where going 50 mph, 200 mph, or completely still.

Which is exactly my point. You should feel more acceleration at the equator than the poles.

So what you're saying is that you don't know what acceleration is.

Here's a question. I'm in my car doing a steady 100mph. What's my acceleration?

I'm at the equator spinning at however much mph. What's my acceleration?

Oh so basically you're saying I will always feel 0 acceleration no matter if i move across the earth which also has its own net acceleration (universe is expanding remember) When I'm travelling at a constant 100 mph, my acceleration is 0. But the second I start speeding up, I should feel positive acceleration, which I do. In much the same way, your acceleration technically increases when you travel up the latitudes. I have a Bach in aerospace engineering and work as a computer programmer. I would like to know your credentials before you accuse me of not knowing what acceleration is lol

So you understand that you can't FEEL acceleration.

My credentials is I have knowledge of basic shit, which you apparently lack, along with all the other "aerospace engineers" (seems to be the most popular profession for flat-earthers, can't imagine why).

For the nth time, you CAN feel acceleration. Press the pedal harder on your car next time and tell me you "CANT" feel it accelerate.

The reason why many educated people question the status quo and turn "conspiracy theorists" is because we know more than the average retard that goes on gulping every piece of propaganda they read/watch/hear and confuse indoctrination they receive in school for education. The more you know, the more you know how much you don't know. Its fucking easy to parrot everything you learnt in school. Try questioning the once widely accepted facts, and thats when new discoveries are made. All the great scientists did just that. Are you also naive on how scientific and critical thinking work?

Your credentials is that you know "basic shit". Nice.

Sorry I misspoke. You can't feel speed is what I meant, which was my initial point.

is because we know more than the average retard that goes on gulping every piece of propaganda they read/watch/hear and confuse indoctrination they receive in school for education.

That would be nice except the overwhelming majority of any and all human groups you can think of believe in a globe earth. Yes, including educated people.

You credentials is that you know "basic shit". Nice.

Yes. We're discussing whether THE EARTH IS FLAT OR NOT. Basic shit is as far as it goes.

That would be nice except the overwhelming majority of any and all human groups you can think of believe in a globe earth. Yes, including educated people.

That's what they said of the flat earth while they executed Galileo/Copernicus etc who dared to think differently. You do realize the irony right?

That's a trainwreck of a sentence, Galileo had nothing to do with the Flat Earth, humans have known the world is round since the BCs.

Additionally, if you need to compare people in the 1500s deciding between helio or geocentrism with denying... well everything we know about our world, I think your theory might be a cit coo coo.

I mean you're literally denying what EVEN THOSE PEOPLE KNEW without having the benefit of fkn space stations and actual photographs and live streaming video of the globe.

You are using this tidbit as a crutch, when those very people would have considered you a regressive ignorant peasant.

Do YOU realize the irony?

people in the year 2500 will point at you and laugh at the retard know it all you think you are. Do you even know the definition of propaganda?

Before you call me an ignorant peasant (again), you should know that I work in data science. You are the one who has "I know basic shit" next to his credentials lol

Sure they will buddy.

And yes, I do. Tell me all about that ancient Greek propaganda baby, did Eratosthenes establish NASA or something?

Also Galileo wasn't executed nor was Copernicus. Do you know anything about any of the things you're talking about?

They were not "put to death" but they were pretty much told they were apostates and imprisoned or whatever. Attacking the weakest point of my argument? Weak brah.

So...no?

Are you disputing these facts as well? Are those propaganda as well? Are you about to skip hop and fuck off from this conversation as fast as you can?

No I'm ready. Bring it on. What's your point again? Nobody should question status quo? Seeing is believing my friend. Unless you see with your own eyes, you can't 100% believe anything. If you do, sorry, you're a retard. lol

Hahaha ok so after being caught having no fucking clue what you're talking about, even with regards to easily google-able facts, you're just gonna word-vomit some strawman bullshit at me and flee.

Nobody should question status quo?

Not my point.

Seeing is believing my friend

Exactly. We've seen. It's a globe.

Unless you see with your own eyes, you can't 100% believe anything

That's a toddler's way of looking at the world. Let me know when you see oxygen.

If you do, sorry, you're a retard

Right, thinking the world might be more complex than "I haven't seen it therefore it doesn't exist" is the domain of retards. Gotcha. Sit back and enjoy the quality of life provided to you by all those people you so casually dismiss as retards, who were not content jerking off to cave paintings and smashing rocks together.

Listen bud, I don't want to fight with you. All I am arguing for is more transparency and a better world for me and you (not just for me lol). Did you miss that from the start?

Oh apparently you're not so quick to the draw with the "retards" now. And apparently you opened up wiki goddamn pedia, realized your embarrassing mistake and edited your previous dismissive comment about me completing the 4th grade.

And now you "don't want to fight"?

Which is exactly my point. You should feel more acceleration at the equator than the poles. Buddy, when i'm going at 150mph I can feel myself moving. Not sure what the fuck you are talking about.

That's not a call for transparency, that's a call for someone to correct you, what the fuck are you on about.

Anyhow who am I to stop your retreat. Go on.

No I don't want to fight. Peace brah. Much love from the Netherlands.

That's a toddler's way of looking at the world. Let me know when you see oxygen.

You missed the part where I said 100%. You truly shouldn't believe everything a 100%. It is very thought inhibiting. That is not how a toddler sees the world. Toddlers are very easily suggestible by nature.

But you aren't accelerating! You are going a constant speed! Just like if you where going 200 mph down the highway!

I have to hand it to them, it's a brilliant strategy.

Stay sane. Don't believe everything you hear. Check sources. Listen to people who prove themselves credible over a long time.

Even those people give in eventually. So for me, I don't believe anyone but my inner voice. :)

You can also view youtube footage of many others who have done so. There is a problem with this, however. The video is a long range visual observation and it must be interpreted in the context of the behavior of light within the atmosphere. When our brain interprets images it makes the assumption of straight light.

But light does not travel in straight lines through the atmosphere, it bends upwards and we need to interpret images with this in mind. Here is an experiment with surveying devices which demonstrates this behavior: http://www.wildheretic.com/bendy-light-the-evidence/#Theodolites

You can do it for like $100 with a balloon.