It'll show he is nowhere near as wealthy as he brags, and it will expose his supposed charity giving as non-existent. Everything about the man is a fraud.
Impossible to say everything. But I hear what you are trying to say. They are both terrible choices. We get 50 choices for Miss America and 2 to 4 for president.. not a great system.
He's a fraud because he's a smart businessman that has simply taken advantage of the piss poor policies put in place by greedy 1%ers and crooked politicians lining their own pockets?
Enough Trump bashing, he's admitted that he has done things he's not proud of because it was better for business (including having Trump clothing line made in China).
Answer me this, outside of an ego boost what exactly would DJT benefit from by becoming president? Now Hillary? Exactly
He has money he should have by selling products and services people wanted. Please explain to me how a career civil servant who farms nothing, makes nothing, provides no service becomes worth 200 million USD?
He is not a 'smart businessman'. He's a crook who gets rich by stiffing his contractors and suppliers, then declaring bankruptcy when the venture collapses in on itself. If he's so smart why isn't he a lot richer? Seriously. If he had invested his inheritance in FTSE 100 companies and left it there he would now be TWICE as rich as he says he is. He is an ignorant loud-mouth, a bully, and a petty tyrant. The entire world outside America hates him.
If I had to guess, I'd say that in the past he's done what MOST business men do and manipulated his taxes "within the law" to pay way below what he was supposed to. He's probably seen how it's derailed other campaigns and has decided to take a stand there
Which is funny, because his biggest supporters that I know in real life always paid the highest tax rates and never cheated. They typically overpaid during their lifetimes.
Why don't they do it? Because they're patriots who want to help their country. They want to follow the rules. They want law and order. But lack of patriotism and law-abiding in their "leader" doesn't phase them.
Trump has real, active business investments. Not just money on a stock or the such. If the huge well financed anti-Trump attack machine got a hold of Trump's business details they could attempt to damage them. Think of the headlines during the election "Trump's current business deals are failing, do we want him as president?"...After they sabotage his business deals... This is my opinion.
This is already out in the open - Trump's constant business failures and pay-for-play schemes are all over the news, Clinton's constant pay-for-play makes mainstream news...both candidates use their "charitable" foundations for graft and bribery...but for some reason, no one fucking cares.
Has it ever been any more obvious than in this election cycle that these people are literally just actors? And not even good ones. I start to think that maybe they're such babbling buffoons on purpose just as a test of how gullible the public is. If it is indeed a test, I think we've failed and are failing pretty spectacularly.
His income and the fact that he pays no taxes is my bet. Also, where the money he does take in comes from (don't forget who has bailed him out in the past - Saudi & Russian oligarchs) - they're likely not the only ones. If you look at his giving to his "charitable" foundation, he stops giving very much in 2007 and stops giving at all in 2009. He was likely using big donations to his foundation to reduce his tax burden - so we can assume he found other ways of doing this around that time. He received the STARS exemption, which is only given to those with incomes less than 500k, so we can assume he managed to get his income down past that.
Also - someone recently mentioned many of his companies are S-corps, so income passes through - so releasing his tax returns would show also how horrifically they've done, how deep in debt, etc. and would likely show some shadiness. There's a likely reason he's been audited for many years.
At this point, though, I care less about this and more about the fact that most of the country is covering up and justifying either his or Clinton's every fraud and crime. What does this say about us?
Both candidates are supremely, fucking comically unfit. They're both crooks and liars. How the hell did we get here?
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8 King-Hell 2016-09-06
It'll show he is nowhere near as wealthy as he brags, and it will expose his supposed charity giving as non-existent. Everything about the man is a fraud.
0 [deleted] 2016-09-06
Everything? I think that's a bit of a stretch.
6 King-Hell 2016-09-06
Everything, from his stick-on hair to his plastic wife. Everything is a lie.
2 [deleted] 2016-09-06
Impossible to say everything. But I hear what you are trying to say. They are both terrible choices. We get 50 choices for Miss America and 2 to 4 for president.. not a great system.
-3 mrbojingles1972 2016-09-06
He's a fraud because he's a smart businessman that has simply taken advantage of the piss poor policies put in place by greedy 1%ers and crooked politicians lining their own pockets?
Enough Trump bashing, he's admitted that he has done things he's not proud of because it was better for business (including having Trump clothing line made in China).
Answer me this, outside of an ego boost what exactly would DJT benefit from by becoming president? Now Hillary? Exactly
He has money he should have by selling products and services people wanted. Please explain to me how a career civil servant who farms nothing, makes nothing, provides no service becomes worth 200 million USD?
4 King-Hell 2016-09-06
He is not a 'smart businessman'. He's a crook who gets rich by stiffing his contractors and suppliers, then declaring bankruptcy when the venture collapses in on itself. If he's so smart why isn't he a lot richer? Seriously. If he had invested his inheritance in FTSE 100 companies and left it there he would now be TWICE as rich as he says he is. He is an ignorant loud-mouth, a bully, and a petty tyrant. The entire world outside America hates him.
4 Lifting1488 2016-09-06
Man, you Trump supporters tell yourselves anything to make him seem like a Saint.
7 blood_wraith 2016-09-06
If I had to guess, I'd say that in the past he's done what MOST business men do and manipulated his taxes "within the law" to pay way below what he was supposed to. He's probably seen how it's derailed other campaigns and has decided to take a stand there
4 bagelofdoom 2016-09-06
That would be my guess too. Just because it's technically legal doesn't mean that it's not shitty.
2 blood_wraith 2016-09-06
oh its super shitty
5 chowder007 2016-09-06
Probably a bait and switch with Hillary. Hold out and then agree to release if Hillary will release her medical records.
1 ConspiracyAccount 2016-09-06
That was my guess as well. We'll see if it works. (It won't.) But, it'll get people questioning her health which is just as good.
3 GoddessWins 2016-09-06
According to his fans tax dodging is smart.
-1 dejeneration 2016-09-06
Which is funny, because his biggest supporters that I know in real life always paid the highest tax rates and never cheated. They typically overpaid during their lifetimes.
I just don't fucking get it.
2 Dragofireheart 2016-09-06
If I can legally pay less taxes, why wouldn't I do it?
-4 dejeneration 2016-09-06
Why don't they do it? Because they're patriots who want to help their country. They want to follow the rules. They want law and order. But lack of patriotism and law-abiding in their "leader" doesn't phase them.
1 Dragofireheart 2016-09-06
You must have missed the "legally" part.
Which is why Trump is trying to fix the system that benefited him and it's why I'm supporting him.
1 dejeneration 2016-09-06
He's blowing sunshine up your ass. Enjoy it while it lasts.
1 Dragofireheart 2016-09-06
That's not what any leaks or following the money shows.
1 Lifting1488 2016-09-06
Hilarious!!
1 Dragofireheart 2016-09-06
Ok, then why does Hillary get about 100 fold more Wall Street money than him?
2 yellowsnow2 2016-09-06
Trump has real, active business investments. Not just money on a stock or the such. If the huge well financed anti-Trump attack machine got a hold of Trump's business details they could attempt to damage them. Think of the headlines during the election "Trump's current business deals are failing, do we want him as president?"...After they sabotage his business deals... This is my opinion.
2 dejeneration 2016-09-06
This is already out in the open - Trump's constant business failures and pay-for-play schemes are all over the news, Clinton's constant pay-for-play makes mainstream news...both candidates use their "charitable" foundations for graft and bribery...but for some reason, no one fucking cares.
Rah rah Trump! Rah rah Clinton!
We're fucking idiots, sheep led to slaughter.
3 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-09-06
Has it ever been any more obvious than in this election cycle that these people are literally just actors? And not even good ones. I start to think that maybe they're such babbling buffoons on purpose just as a test of how gullible the public is. If it is indeed a test, I think we've failed and are failing pretty spectacularly.
1 dejeneration 2016-09-06
Yeah. Epic failure, I consider myself a pessimist and I can still barely fucking believe it.
2 Vaperator 2016-09-06
He has donated millions to planned parenthood.
1 dejeneration 2016-09-06
His income and the fact that he pays no taxes is my bet. Also, where the money he does take in comes from (don't forget who has bailed him out in the past - Saudi & Russian oligarchs) - they're likely not the only ones. If you look at his giving to his "charitable" foundation, he stops giving very much in 2007 and stops giving at all in 2009. He was likely using big donations to his foundation to reduce his tax burden - so we can assume he found other ways of doing this around that time. He received the STARS exemption, which is only given to those with incomes less than 500k, so we can assume he managed to get his income down past that.
Also - someone recently mentioned many of his companies are S-corps, so income passes through - so releasing his tax returns would show also how horrifically they've done, how deep in debt, etc. and would likely show some shadiness. There's a likely reason he's been audited for many years.
At this point, though, I care less about this and more about the fact that most of the country is covering up and justifying either his or Clinton's every fraud and crime. What does this say about us?
Both candidates are supremely, fucking comically unfit. They're both crooks and liars. How the hell did we get here?
1 dutchbob1 2016-09-06
because Trump is broke-ass and fakes even his riches
0 TheStrangeTamer 2016-09-06
main reason is because he doesnt have to.
2 Lifting1488 2016-09-06
Riiiiight. Because he's not as rich as he claims.
-2 [deleted] 2016-09-06
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4 Lifting1488 2016-09-06
The "lesser of two evils" garbage is why we're in this mess in the first place.