Fuck all this election bullshit. What have **you** been researching? fringe theory megathread?
50 2016-09-08 by [deleted]
i've been researching a broad historical narrative for sometime yet recently, i've been interested specifically on certain claims related to islam and it's inception
I stumbled upon this man Vasily Bartold
who has this to say "the many benefits the Muslim world derived from Mongol rule after the initial conquests..and whilst Soviet editors added footnotes deploring his 'bourgeois' attitudes, his prestige was such that the text was left uncensored despite not conforming to a Marxist interpretation of history"
so I started reading this; Mussulman culture
cult-ture
share your current fringe interests and fuck this election we all know it's a dog and pony show
91 comments
18 Balthanos 2016-09-08
I've been focusing on external events. Whenever there's a dog and pony show going on I tend to believe we are ignoring everything outside our windows.
War in Libya
War in Yemen
Shakeup in Turkey
War in Ukraine
Escalating tensions in Syria
2 ronintetsuro 2016-09-08
Dont forget the assassination attempt against Putin.
5 Balthanos 2016-09-08
Putin wasn't even in the country. What you talking about? He was in China at the G20.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/707732/vladimir-putin-driver-killed-russia-crash
3 ronintetsuro 2016-09-08
He was scheduled to have returned that morning but detoured unexpectedly to pay his respects at a grave.
10 Balthanos 2016-09-08
The supposed assassin would know if Putin was in the vehicle, let alone the country, well before it was on that road. Otherwise they are the most incompetent assassin out there.
2 Vitalogy0107 2016-09-08
It serves the message though, does it not? Get in line or else? Just a thought.
1 satisfyinghump 2016-09-08
Or they are the most competent MESSENGER
2 therealgillbates 2016-09-08
If this is the case then he knew ;)
3 boncros 2016-09-08
I definitely think it was a message.
2 satisfyinghump 2016-09-08
It was a message. Are you crazy?! You have ANY idea wtf would happen if the president of Russia were killed?!?! The wraith????
3 Avo69 2016-09-08
The President of Russia owns wraiths?!
1 satisfyinghump 2016-09-08
Yes, the ones from Starcraft :)
1 Avo69 2016-09-08
Badassery confirmed.
0 Balthanos 2016-09-08
No, I'm not crazy. I'm basing my assumptions upon facts. There's no solid evidence that this was any type of message. The driver of the other car is alive and in the hospital. Do you think an assassin would allow themselves to live/be captured?
1 satisfyinghump 2016-09-08
Could be that the car was hijacked/hacked and the 'driver' had no clue that his car was being used as a weapon.
What are the odds, of all the cars to get hit, its Putins car?! I mean, come on!
1 satisfyinghump 2016-09-08
That looks to me.like a remote control car locked in on Putin's car.
1 ronintetsuro 2016-09-08
Explain.
1 satisfyinghump 2016-09-08
I know what I'm seeing. That's enough for me and the other people who also feel strongly it's a remote control car.
1 ronintetsuro 2016-09-08
Okay. That's fine. But not very convincing.
9 chimnado 2016-09-08
The Ron Paul Liberty Report and the Federal Reserve.
9 RDS 2016-09-08
Nassim Haramein, holofractal theory, primer fields, ancient religion and symbology, old mason rituals, Saturn.
8 LupinePeregrinans 2016-09-08
this stuff is why I'm here. Cheers OP. Not looking at anything specific atm but getting more of a feel for what kinds of things are out there to look at
7 resymbol 2016-09-08
Starchild Skull, and Lloyd Pye's research in general.
Collecting some Theosophical writings for reading later this month.
1 Pinkindabrain 2016-09-08
I hadn't heard of that and just looked it up, pretty interesting stuff thanks.
1 resymbol 2016-09-08
No problem.
Pye has a lot of interesting trails that haven't really been convincingly debunked.
J. Krishnamurti is where I'd recommend starting if the Theosophists interest you.
1 Pinkindabrain 2016-09-08
Thank you!
7 mtryp 2016-09-08
The Mandela Effect, but I'm currently taking a little break, because it's a deeeeep rabbit hole, that seriously threatens your sanity.
6 CelineHagbard 2016-09-08
Have you discovered any test that would demonstrate, or at least make some type of probabilistic claim that it's anything other than just people misremembering things? I've spent some time in that rabbit hole, but never came across any way to prove the claims.
1 mtryp 2016-09-08
Nothing conclusive yet. The closest I've gotten is an obscure 4chan thread that was deleted by the op, who claimed to be a CERN scientist, working on the team responsible for the edits. Luckily, someone took screen shots, and uploaded here: np.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/4yyz23/4chan_thread_scientist_at_cern_admits_it/
Anyone could've easily hoaxed that, and the thread is hard to follow, but there's a very strange feeling I have about it... worth checking out. I'm convinced that something profound is happening, and our reality as we know it is being edited. I once thought that it was a combination of CERN, quantum computing, and our exponential increase of personal processing power, as a civilization, but these changes aren't random, they're targeted at very specific things. So now I'm thinking that it's absolutely deliberate.
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6 no1113 2016-09-08
ETs, bro. ETs.
3 [deleted] 2016-09-08
Blue beeeeerrrrrrrrmmmmm!!!!!
2 no1113 2016-09-08
Ha. Yeah. That too. I've been paying particular attention to Marine Captain Randy Cramer and the many talks he's had regarding his experiences.
3 zeuph 2016-09-08
All the time ETs. :)
2 no1113 2016-09-08
All day 'er day ETs.
0 sheasie 2016-09-08
Dr. Steven M. Greer bro, amiright?
2 no1113 2016-09-08
I don't know if this is sarcasm or not - since Stephen Greer is so maligned by so many - but he is a figure that, regardless of what one may try to say about him one way or the other, has done more for the disclosure movement than pretty much anyone. As such, he is, again, a seminal figure where disclosure is concerned. I personally greatly appreciate his efforts, and am glad he did what he did with his The Disclosure Project.
1 o0squirrel0o 2016-09-08
How that guy is still alive is beyond me.
1 no1113 2016-09-08
As far as I know, there isn't "one group only" in charge of EVERYTHING on the planet. There are various cabals - something like 7 families or so (?) - each of which have great power, and all of which have their own, personal agenda...and some of those agendas are pretty directly conflicting with one another.
Some of those groups are pretty "service to self", and some of those groups are pretty "service to others".
I wouldn't doubt that he is protected to some extent - whether he knows it directly or not - by at least one of those groups. Otherwise he would likely have been long dead by now (as a long time business partner and collaborator of his was).
I wouldn't doubt that there is at least some extent of narcissistic undermining in him as well. I don't have the personal agenda against him that so many others seem to be fixated on. I feel I'm quite a bit more balanced toward Greer than many I've heard on here, and I think he's a very important figure and has done a lot for spreading disclosure to the masses. However, he does, of course, come across as pretty full of himself sometimes, and I acknowledge that there's a possibility that he has been undermined to perhaps some extent regardless. How and to what extent? I've no idea.
Regardless, he's disseminated a lot of valuable information w/regard to disclosure, so I appreciate greatly that he did that at least.
1 o0squirrel0o 2016-09-08
Who would protect him? The aliens? He mentioned that aliens have an interest in our survival. That sounds creepy to me.
1 no1113 2016-09-08
There are elites on this planet that are very powerful in their own right - at least on a global/Earth level/basis. I imagine that if some of these powerful elites don't want him dead, they can help keep it from happening. There are also certain ET groups that I imagine wouldn't have a problem w/disclosure and who wouldn't have a problem helping someone interested in moving it along.
Some do. Some don't. Most I'd imagine don't care.
Some who do I would guess have an interest because they made us - or at least were partially responsible for our existence.
Why? What's so creepy in some beings having an interest in our survival? Some have an interest because they see that the human species might have good potential to evolve nicely and can join a galactic family of sorts. Others might have an interest because they're mining us as a resource and don't want to see their cash cow die off. Some are interested because they helped create us and see us as family - or at least their "property".
I guess something like that can sound creepy to some. I just think it is what it is (whatever it might be).
1 o0squirrel0o 2016-09-08
That part about us being bred as cattle or other resources creeps me out. Sure, why not? That makes sense. I still don't like it.
1 no1113 2016-09-08
Yeah. I can understand how that would creep someone out. However, if it's true, it's true. We have to acknowledge it, deal with it, and move forward toward our betterment. Getting creeped out by it is understandable. Remaining creeped out, however, is something we would need to break out of if we are to move forward.
Additionally, considering what we do to other non-human animals here on this planet, it would make sense that we would get quite a bit of that same home cooking served right back to us. Kind of serves us right, karmically speaking. It's no different than what we do to all kinds of other species of animals here on Earth ultimately.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-09-08
Because he's control grid or a liar (or both). Anyone who tells you they have 'friends in the upper eschelon of military intelligence' that is 'leaking to them top secret and majik level or cosmic level clearances'...you either have to roll your eyes at them or you have to assume they have no friends because they'd all be dead by autoerotic asphyxiation in a hotel somewhere
Critical thinking skills are a useful thing to have and develop both now and in post collapse
1 Vitalogy0107 2016-09-08
I have to tell you, something seems really off to me about Stephen Greer, and I couldn't put my finger on it but I don't trust him for a second, nor many of the others in the disclosure projects.
2 zeuph 2016-09-08
There's a lot more to that field than Steven Greer. Check out Richard Dolan, Stanton T. Friedman or Stephen Bassett if you want some more investigating.
5 Skybluvalleykid 2016-09-08
Saturn, Moloch, trickle down to public of 'advanced' technology.
5 lodi777 2016-09-08
JFK assassination what else? The king conspiracy. Mainly,did Lee Harvey Oswald actually have CIA ties?
7 mdm_eh 2016-09-08
In case you missed it...you might want to check out:
"Everything is a Rich Man's Trick"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
2 GoochMon 2016-09-08
I just got done watching it today, it really clarified and put together everything to say the least. Is there a next step you could recommend?
3 Vitalogy0107 2016-09-08
Well to someone just starting I will always recommend my favorites: How Big Oil Conquered the World and Century of Enslavement both by journalist James Corbett. Please watch these when you get the chance, my friend, in order.
6 know_comment 2016-09-08
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_de_Mohrenschildt
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-09-08
Listen to Mae Brussell podcasts about JFK and you will be validated that you are on the right track with GdM as she discusses him at great length across several subjects
1 TheGawdDamnBatman 2016-09-08
Watergates Hunt allegedly believed that a main reason JFK was assassinated for was that he was going to disclose the alien presence.
5 HillaryBot9000 2016-09-08
I've been researching latex/shiny porn for free on pornhub. You don't even have to be 18 to get on.
4 NZ_NZ 2016-09-08
but Trump wants to audit the Federal Reserve, Ron Paul says.
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-09-08
He also wants to hire Rudy Guiliani as homeland security director so go figure. It sounds like bullshit lip service. He's also implied he would find out who really did 9/11 and would tell us. This guy is so full of shit man. You'll see. He's control grid, just like the rest. Don't be fooled or you'll end up shattered like a Bernie supporter come January when all your hopes dry up like a raisin in the sun and he does exactly the same as obama.
I'll give you this...all these 'trump will do' ideas make for good political masturbation material.
Stop looking for saviors and save yourself and your family. Plan for collapse. And/or UFOs
1 NZ_NZ 2016-09-08
wow some poetry.
collapse... UFOs? seriously? how are you going to be any good for the family if they siege your house using M2 brownings or AT-4s or mortar shells?
even that sound somewhat like an overkill.
you dont need drones for most of the part, really.
nah, we better stick with trump.
3 flyyyyyyyyy 2016-09-08
the Kybalion - Hermetic texts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvV8vLON-nY
or to download like a podcast:
https://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=UvV8vLON-nY
3 fuufnfr 2016-09-08
The Draco (reptile dudes) who've been running this shit show forever and created what we call the cabal or Illuminati or whatevs and that they left Earth last year.
How they were the glue that kept the cabal/Illuminati working towards their goals and without them the cabal has fractured into like 5 factions who are now fighting each other in the power vacuum.
The fight for control of the global collateral accounts, estimated $93,000 trillion in off leger hard assets, that is the actual base for all finance.
The supposed good guys on our side fighting the factions behind the scenes. Some are not from this planet.
Typical /r/greenlight shit
3 NZ_NZ 2016-09-08
$90,000 trillion ???
1 Vitalogy0107 2016-09-08
Derivative markets.
1 fuufnfr 2016-09-08
No, real actual physical assets. A literal treasure trove.
1 fuufnfr 2016-09-08
Yeah, apparently most of it is from the days of the old silk toad and before. This is why the eastern faction is claiming they own like 85% of it. All the gold went east...
1 NZ_NZ 2016-09-08
they got the gold back by selling opium in china and india.
3 kuqi_couture 2016-09-08
what are these 5 factions?
1 fuufnfr 2016-09-08
Tommy described them like this I think...
2 JimHadar 2016-09-08
Ha ha brilliant, I would love to read more about this. Where's the best place to start?
4 shockaDee 2016-09-08
Check out Joseph p Farrell. Book covert wars and breakaway civilizations. He also has his own reddit sub
2 fuufnfr 2016-09-08
If you're interested in the global collateral accounts then follow Neil Keenan.
For the parts about ET and shit listen to Thomas Williams.
Other than that you gotta piece together everything from reading between the lines of all the other BS out there because most stuff on these topics is disinfo or scammers.
3 GoddessWins 2016-09-08
I accidentally became a watcher when the fake news became completely divorced from the reality we live with.
I mostly wonder why they are trying to get us to believe this or that.
And notice which direction they are pushing us and wonder why.
*rmv wrd
2 Mrexreturns 2016-09-08
World war iii caused by seperating hong kong from china, NWO via the Communist takeover of the US, Europe and Japan, Marxist Degeneracy and Western Army weakness.
2 Iamamansass 2016-09-08
Rudolf Steiner and the Ahriman as I do think we're on the brink of something astonishing.
1 AromaticQueef 2016-09-08
such as?
1 Iamamansass 2016-09-08
Well if I knew exactly it wouldn't be astonishing. But... If I had to guess. Spirit world and this world coming together. There's been so much strange phenomena happening. Lights on comets, water on planets etc... Leaders of this world trying to keep us distracted by such trivial and material things. Our bodies are changing. We can all feel a disturbance or change occurring.
2 ButtRichard 2016-09-08
How to play Classical Guitar.
2 Estamio2 2016-09-08
Year-round navigation of the Arctic reveals massive resources. If limiting refreezing were possible, would they do it?
2 Kvothe_SixStrings 2016-09-08
Researching alternate explanations of the weather and seismic events, as well as the geomagnetic anomalies occuring on our planet and throughout the sol system.
The research is tying directly into other research ive done on (recently scientifically vetted) trans neptunian bodies...
Its foreboding
1 DrMcMeow 2016-09-08
thermal dynamics recently.
That shit has class.
1 satisfyinghump 2016-09-08
Has anyone read any of the Russian news outlets, if they are calling the car crash an assignation attempt/message to Putin?
1 brotherjonathan 2016-09-08
Global currency reset, mass arrests of globalist bankers and politicians, and ET disclosure.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-09-08
Trying to disentangle the spy vs spy of jesuits versus sabbateans versus freemasons of Jesuit's original protocols of elders of zion...allegedly called "The Secrets of the Elders of Bourg-Fontaine". Of course, all I can find is blogs repeating each other and no primary source document of the text of this, leading me to believe this is yet-more-misdirection--a nice 'story', similar to some misdirections of dan brown or umberto eco or anyone fakewhistleblowing the occult.
Henry Ford was a freemason who published many copies of Protocols, and did so with anonymous authorship, which means he published propaganda on behalf of Freemasonry. Sorry, but we have to pin that on freemason.
The Jesuit 'original' source is a nice 'story' until we can get some confirmation that this document actually ever existed, such as 1) the textual contents, 2) a picture of the document or location of the document in a museum (ie: vatican library or buried off the books in a vault somewhere), 3) a statement from the vatican, from a monarch, or from a vatican or monarch or jesuit endorsed 'authority' that can confirm it as extant
1 Nevrend 2016-09-08
Why are Americans so obsessed with buying shit they don't need? It is like a sickness that keeps worse and worse.
2 nohighs 2016-09-08
people don't buy what they need, they buy what they want. americans are made to want everything except themselves
0 CohenDaBarbarian 2016-09-08
I'm going over the history of the Annunaki. I'm also making my own Pyramids out of wood copying Dr. Alexander Golod, PhD. Duckduckgo him
2 JimHadar 2016-09-08
Never gonna catch on, pal.
4 CohenDaBarbarian 2016-09-08
It will. You just have to believe in yourself.
0 FORKinmyDICK 2016-09-08
Fring theory mega thread...I remember when his stuff was purely paranormal/occult/fringe/alternative/outside of the box theories. Now it is a alt-political forum that shits on people who actually bring up non-USA election conspriacies.
For me:
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-1 CUNTRY 2016-09-08
Election bullshit? Like there is nothing at stake... so let's focus on other things?
7 mdm_eh 2016-09-08
In case you missed it...you might want to check out:
"Everything is a Rich Man's Trick"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
6 know_comment 2016-09-08
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_de_Mohrenschildt
1 TheGawdDamnBatman 2016-09-08
Watergates Hunt allegedly believed that a main reason JFK was assassinated for was that he was going to disclose the alien presence.