It's getting old, waking up everyday a 'conspiracy theorist' or a 'truther' in my own country.
37 2016-09-11 by Beneficial1
I wake up lately, especially today's date, and it takes me about ten minutes to adjust to a reality where what I see as news is false. And 'my fellow Americans' are controlling the others with a mainstream and spoon fed narrative and social programming.
Our own citizens work for ctr. On the news. Our own citizens are trolling forums like reddit to disrupt truth from being told. Our own citizens led into roles as crisis actors. Our own citizens who try to help hide things from eachother and fool eachother. It's really an illusion right? A type of augmented world where I am a type of citizen that is in the basket of deplorables who would even think that what I see is actually there or not?
How did I go from being a pragmatist to a conspiracy theorist? I didn't go anywhere. I was just conveniently labeled that way. I never stopped being pragmatic. So that's why I must be sensing the reality in this country as a conspiracy and nothing resembling any practical realism.
58 comments
8 Agenda2030 2016-09-11
"It is necessary not to overlook the ordinary [American] population's complicity in [Ashke]Nazi crimes. It is also necessary to realize that most [Americans] were motivated not by a willful intent to harm others but by a mixture of cowardice, apathy, and a slavish obedience to authority."
https://www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/johnson-terror.html
7 gulfstreamg650driver 2016-09-11
They control the money supply - so they control everything.
6 oldpau 2016-09-11
Being awake is painful, yet infinitely fulfilling.
2 Beneficial1 2016-09-11
Hahaha, yea, you have a point.
4 tinylilzikababyhead 2016-09-11
I get it. I wish it could be different also.
3 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Forgive your fellow citizens that in blindness follow authority, for their programming is strong. None of this voodoo can possibly hold up much longer though, the synagogue of Satan is to rotten to constrain itself.
2 Beneficial1 2016-09-11
No religion can last. The old ones are just parts of even older ones and the new ones really aren't that new. Any of them ultimately constrain themselves in their own structure and ends up limiting the perception so how can awareness expand if it's boxed into a model of devil worship ?...Absurd and rhetorical. I don't want to forgive anyone. In the realm of possibility everything created was possible and not in any violation of any supreme galactic law if those even exist which I doubt.
Let's really look at programming. Are we programmed to forgive? I can at least empathise, that feels more natural.
2 [deleted] 2016-09-11
http://vaniquotes.org/wiki/Ass_ism
2 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Yer talking to one with too much empathy. Some I can forgive, some never. But those that folks blindly follow have not had exposure to some of the things I have. Some things cant be unseen. And some can't be seen until you have a reason to look. I wish no one ever had to deal with some things. Ever. Or a reason to look. Forgiveness is not mine to give to those that didn't know they needed it. Or that their lack of knowledge got us here. How do we disassemble that cube shaped box we are all stuck in? Are we all programmed the same?
2 Beneficial1 2016-09-11
Similar but the not the same I would say. But in other words it's specific to each generation though the same symbolism in general.
One way to get out of the box is to redefine the box and it's components. Instead of something that encloses you, it can be something that opens you up.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
There is no box. It is just a cube. A cube of goo.
2 Beneficial1 2016-09-11
So you are floating in a cube of goo... where do you go from there?
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Inward, to the center. Become one with the goo. And stay away from the light.
1 Beneficial1 2016-09-11
Define the light. What is it, why avoid it?
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Be the light, not chase after what someone else holds. Kinda like silver in pocket is better than fiat in the bank. We need no leaders, just an appropriate skill set.
2 Beneficial1 2016-09-11
Well , you have Jedi programming.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Which beats sheople programming. I wish it wasn't such unobtanium to so many.
2 Beneficial1 2016-09-11
Thanks, filing that word in the english language program.
The sheeple program is like a river of consciousness. It flows mightily. It's the main band of the collective energy. We didn't get caught in the stream. We kinda branched off or flow just parallel to it.
There was a moment in time when there was a split. And the conspiracy stream began flowing. Maybe it had no beginning. Could be its just part of the programming. But an event shook the collective stream and we ended up being splashed out to see the collective from a different vantage point. So I call us the Seers.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
That fits, it can't be unseen.
Neither can their glitches. And today has been comedy gold.
2 EuroTrash69 2016-09-11
The only thing new under the sun is the access we have to the truth (and the lies, as well). The notion of Liberty has always been abhorrent to some, even our fellow citizens.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
The word liberty is getting a really bad reputation.
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
Nuclear reactors didn't exist during Solomon's reign. Internet wasn't around during the Roman Empire. Photography didn't exist during the Reformation. GPS didn't exist during the Civil War. Satellites didn't exist during WW 1. CRISPR-CAS 9 gene editing didn't exist during the 1st Gulf War.
There's a lot new under the sun.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
The gene editing is an issue. I am pretty sure we should not be doing that. The nuclear reactors, need dismantled. Or what ever they do make them safe. The rest of it is all pretty nifty though isn't it?
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
Problem with inventing tech is you can't uninvent it. You can refuse to use it, but yeah. Lots of good things can come from genetics. Lotta bad, too.
Tbh I think the internet is more destructive. People think I'm weird for not carrying a smartphone with me everywhere. I'm fine with one government spy device, kthnx.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Govt spy devices need banned. When we are looking at using genetic research to target certain subgroups to have an affinity for religious zealousness and meth, we sure do need to quarantine it.
2 TerraViv 2016-09-11
Then throw away your computer, telephone, don't have a bank account, don't accept anything except for cash as payment, burn down the internet
Etc etc.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Nah, they just need to quit keeping a copy. Better yet we keep our gadgets and just get rid of them. Much better.
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
Yeah uhh that's not going to happen. Getting rid of them just means someone else takes hold of the Utah Data Center and other similar places.
And you're not going to take them out, anyway. Stop lying to yourself. In order to amass a force capable of taking them out you'd have to use their communications systems. In order to figure out who to take out you'd have to use their data.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
I won't be taking anyone any where. Not out in or along. this is a diy project. Utah, needs shut down. Asap. If you can't tell the criminals from the rest of us, then you havent really bin paying attention. <3
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
But you've already talked about it on a forum that's known to be monitored.
It's more along the lines of "how can you possibly get all the people who are causing problems, including the power players we -don't- know about, and everyone who would swoop in to fill the vacuum? How do you guarantee only trustworthy people are put into power when political systems indirectly reward psychopaths who will do anything to gain power?"
This is a problem inherent in nature and history. Might and deception make right.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
No might and deception make evil. Evolve.
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
And evil has a really long history of winning. Evolving would entail adopting the winning strategies. :/
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
Good has the advantage of not worrying about all your friends being back stabbers (sometimes, and only on the small scale imo.) And not making the world a worse place.
I'm not saying go out and do whatever. Just lamenting how it seems like those who do so have a massive advantage. It depresses me to no end.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Aquarius, let the son shine within, and evolve proper. Not give in to the lowest common denominator.
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
I appreciate the sentiment, but until I evolve the ability to produce food and shelter from thin air, I'm still shackled by money.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
So, keep on, just like now. You will not see change that way.
2 TerraViv 2016-09-11
Yuuuup. Just keep reading and looking.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Makes you put down all the actual books and the PDFs. I guess. A huge Thank you to the gods of all internets is in order. Who would have thought that it would help us find our real human tools? I asked a few months back, looks like we shall receive. Keep calm and carry on. Manifestation? For me, yep.
2 TerraViv 2016-09-11
I'm still reading a ton. 4+ hours daily just trying to find something useful to do
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Good start. There is a lot to learn.
2 TerraViv 2016-09-11
There's so much to learn that learning just makes me realize how dumb I am.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
No kidding. Same same.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
http://www.gnosis.org/library/marygosp.htm
What we should have been learning first, in my opinion. I hope you find the happy in this that I did.
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
There's some neat stuff, but unless it's true, it's just that - neat stuff.
But thank you for sharing.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
How did it feel to you when you read it?
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
Like I'm reading Gnostic fanfic. :(
Especially since none of the epistles give a nod to Mary.
The matter thing is cool, but not finding it until super late diminishes the impression. Especially since delving into other old scriptures has regularly ended with, "oh, the earliest complete copy isn't that old compared to what's claimed... :("
Scripture' s been bumming me out a lot lately though, so don't take it as a personal attack. <3
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
I don't. Took me long to find it.
It was kept hidden because the bottom line is love. Of the universal unconditional variety. Can't have that yet. But soon.
2 TerraViv 2016-09-11
I'd like to believe real love has potential to win out. That'd be great. :)
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Let's think it into being. Manifestation seems to work. Better when we work as a group.
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
Yo let's try manifesting food and shelter for the poor, first
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Yeah, needs done too, asap.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Shameful really, that .
1 TerraViv 2016-09-11
It's pretty sad. I'm still looking for a workaround. DIY food labs and energy production (essentially self sufficiency) seem hopeful. But you'd still need textiles, building materials, medicines, and to stay under the radar.
2 magnora7 2016-09-11
I just made a post on the exact same subject before seeing this one, and I think it gives additional answers some of the questions you're raising because I'm definitely feeling this too and I'm tired of it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/52bj2x/yesterdays_conspiracy_theory_is_todays_news/
1 Beneficial1 2016-09-11
Oh hey, I posted there before I saw this message. Lol. We must be on the same wavelength.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Wooden spoons and magic wands. Election day. We Could still make this happen.
0 chipmunkbasic 2016-09-11
It's like lucid dreaming but without the power to control the dream.
0 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Nah, more like a really bad trip that repeats like groundhog day.
1 Beneficial1 2016-09-11
Oh hey, I posted there before I saw this message. Lol. We must be on the same wavelength.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Wooden spoons and magic wands. Election day. We Could still make this happen.
0 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Nah, more like a really bad trip that repeats like groundhog day.
1 ifltrdby 2016-09-11
Yeah, needs done too, asap.