I'm rather disiturbed that we have been told all our lives it was only Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but now I find out we've been using depleted uranium since the gulf war.
21 2016-09-13 by [deleted]
what the fuck. what the flying fuck. there was never ANY necessity to use such dirty weapons.
this is evil and fucked up
33 comments
10 jimmyb207 2016-09-13
The birth defects in the Iraq region have sky rocketed since the US's use of DU bombs and ammo. If you research it, you will be even more sickened by its reality.
5 chickyrogue 2016-09-13
We are evil and fucked up didnt you know this when we screw falucha? [chick cannot spell and no glasses]
the birth defects are deliberate and the work of pure madness for humanity
1 s70n3834r 2016-09-13
For mystery Babylon, it's an experiment in population control. For the synagogue of Satan, and it's neocon agents in the US, it is the accomplishment of prophecy; that Babylon proper shall be made uninhabitable forever.
2 chickyrogue 2016-09-13
omg i never thought of it like this ....
3 nisaaru 2016-09-13
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium
explains it in more detail. I'm not sure you fully understand the difference. Never the less, it doesn't make its usage any less problematic.
1 [deleted] 2016-09-13
dirty weapons of any sort are horrifying pure evil in my opinion, they are not even tools with a use, only capable of lasting and significant destruction emotionally, physically, socially, and environmentally.
3 kekulerules 2016-09-13
Look up Gulf War Syndrome.
2 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2016-09-13
Some say that a part of GWS is from the Pre-Deployment vaccines :/
1 theperiodictable 2016-09-13
As deplorable as they are, I wouldn't consider DU munitions a "classic" dirty bomb, as DU incidentally isn't very radioactive. There's isotopes used in medical imaging that are much more radioactive than that. The thing that makes DU dangerous is that uranium is a highly toxic heavy metal even without the radioactivity, much like mercury or cadmium. The radioactivity is just icing on the poison cake.
0 N0M0 2016-09-13
I have a doubt that a nuke bomb had been used at dresden also. maybe not a very powerful device like those in japan and maybe not really successful but still, what happen at dresden was a one time event that makes no sense using traditional bombs
1 GTheFaceL 2016-09-13
I wouldn't begin to know where to look but wouldn't there be an associated spike in radiation related disease etc.?
1 s70n3834r 2016-09-13
The presence of tritium. Someone should probably have a look.
1 s70n3834r 2016-09-13
The incendiary carpet bombing in WWII was actually far more destructive than the atomic bombs that were used, but it was a more expensive means of warfare. In Dresden, conventional bombs were used to fill the bomb shelters, and then incendiaries were used to pull the air out of them, and also burn up all the people who there was no room in the shelters for. Dresden was full of refugees, so many were burnt. The atomic bombs were merely a demonstration of a vastly less expensive means of bombardment that had been underway all through the war where air superiority was gained.
The burning of Dresden bore out what Churchill had previously stated point blank: Britain was not waging war against the German state, but against the German people.
2 daddie_o 2016-09-13
Was Dresden faked?
-7 daddie_o 2016-09-13
Imagine how surprised you'll be when you learn that we never even dropped an A-bomb on Hiroshima or Nagasaki and that nuclear weapons are just a big hoax. O_O
5 Avo69 2016-09-13
What manner of foolishness is this?
0 daddie_o 2016-09-13
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=452
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=476
http://mileswmathis.com/bikini.pdf
http://mileswmathis.com/trinity.pdf
Plus a bonus one on Dresden: http://mileswmathis.com/dresden.pdf
0 Avo69 2016-09-13
Judging by the hilarious links you posted and the fact that you posted your response three separate times, I am going to assume you are either developmentally disabled or 11 years old.
1 daddie_o 2016-09-13
Why not both?
2 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2016-09-13
On what basis?
-1 daddie_o 2016-09-13
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=452
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=476
http://mileswmathis.com/bikini.pdf
http://mileswmathis.com/trinity.pdf
Plus a bonus one on Dresden: http://mileswmathis.com/dresden.pdf
1 [deleted] 2016-09-13
lol I read on one fringe site, japan invented the bomb and the factory exploded lmao. I don't believe that though.;
0 daddie_o 2016-09-13
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=452
http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=476
http://mileswmathis.com/bikini.pdf
http://mileswmathis.com/trinity.pdf
Plus a bonus one on Dresden: http://mileswmathis.com/dresden.pdf
-8 dgillz 2016-09-13
We never used any dirty weapons, ever. Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the only 2 nuclear weapons we ever used outside of testing.
You were taught correctly. If you have evidence otherwise please post it.
12 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2016-09-13
Are you saying that depleted Uranium Projectiles aren't radioactive and don't count??
If anything, DU comes under the 'dirty bomb' umbrella, and therefore still counts as a nuclear weapon.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium
http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/depleted_uranium/
2 GTheFaceL 2016-09-13
Man, even if you don't count the nukes...some of the shit dumped in Vietnam is pretty "dirty."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange#Health_effects
1 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2016-09-13
I would say that would technically be 'chemical warfare' as those defoliants caused a lot of deaths to humans, both friend & foe alike. (Friendlies getting sprayed while on patrol & patrols going into the area shortly after spraying)
-7 dgillz 2016-09-13
I'm saying we have never used a depleted uranium projectile on anyone. It could be used as a dirty bomb, we simply have never done that.
Again if you have evidence that we have indeed used ANY type of nuclear ordnance against another country (except of course Hiroshima and Nagasaki) please provide it. The links you provided a) explain what depleted uranium is and b) how our service people could theoretically become exposed to it.
7 Avo69 2016-09-13
Claiming that we have never used DU rounds on anyone is simply hilarious and pretty idiotic.
http://www.wise-uranium.org/dissgw.html
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/2791:depleted-uranium-weapon-use-persists-despite-deadly-side-effects
5 Avo69 2016-09-13
http://iacenter.org/depleted/fahey.htm
The Army reports that a total of 14,000 DU tank rounds were expended during the war. 7,000 rounds were fired during training before the war into sand berms in Saudi Arabia; 4,000 rounds were fired during combat; and 3,000 were lost due to fires or other accidents.8 In addition, British Challenger tanks fired at least 100 DU tank rounds in combat.
The extended range of DU penetrators combined with the highly accurate fire control system and gun of the M1A1 provided American tanks with a considerable advantage over their Iraqi counterparts. While Iraqi T-72 tanks had an effective firing range of under 2,000 meters, U.S. tanks had an effective firing range of approximately 3,000 meters. In one case, the frontal armor of a T-72 was penetrated by a 3,500 meter shot (over 2 miles) from an M1A1.9 But the longest confirmed kill of the war was by a British Challenger tank, which destroyed an Iraqi tank with a DU round over a distance of 5,100 meters (over 3 miles).10 Even over these extended ranges, the DU rounds proved highly effective in penetrating Iraqi tank armor. In one case, a DU round "hit the turret of a Russian-made Iraqi T-72 tank, passed completely through the turret, and hit (and destroyed) a second T-72."11
Though the Army and Marine Corps fired thousands of DU rounds in battle, the Air Force by far fired the majority of DU rounds used during the war. The Air Force's A-10 "tank-killer" aircraft were used extensively against Iraqi armored vehicles and artillery. The A-10 fired approximately 940,000 30mm DU rounds in combat.12
3 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2016-09-13
They're a scary weapon. I've read somewhere that a a DU projectile has the kinetic energy of a 20t truck, going 60 miles/hr, in a 2 inch area. Fucking crazy.
3 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2016-09-13
You obviously don't know wtf you are talking about.
DU rounds were WIDELY used on Iraqi tanks & their crews in Gulf War 1 & 2.
The second link showed where, when & how our soldiers were exposed to DU.
DU rounds work on kinetic energy. Technically they are a nuclear missile.
1 [deleted] 2016-09-13
lol. I might have more evidence if I had access to the real history books. Too bad ours are mostly fairy tales that lightly graze over the facts.
5 Avo69 2016-09-13
What manner of foolishness is this?
2 JUSTIN_HERGINA 2016-09-13
On what basis?
1 [deleted] 2016-09-13
lol I read on one fringe site, japan invented the bomb and the factory exploded lmao. I don't believe that though.;