I found some strange connections between Ted Bundy and his pen-pals John Hinckley Jr and David Berkowitz, Satanism, Mormons, and Monarch/Mk-Ultra based human trafficking...
71 2016-10-05 by MKULTRAserialkillers
I was browsing r/serialkillers and noticed a newspaper headline about Ted Bundy catching a purse snatcher. That's bizarre enough in of itself, but what really caught my eye was the blurb about Bundy working for the Seattle Crime Prevention Advisory Committee.
Let's not forget he was also a paid campaign staffer for his state Republican party and comes from a very influential and well connected family. He also worked on Nelson Rockefeller's presidential campaign.
We've seen numerous cases of serial killers working with the police prior to capture, from John Wayne Gacy to Bob Berdella. One might be inclined to say 'Of course, they're sociopaths."
I submit that they're part of something larger. Trauma based mind control and human trafficking go hand in hand- especially when you consider how intelligence agencies use these networks for assassins, blackmail and filthy lucre. See: Craig Spence, The Franklin scandal, etc.
Later in life, Ted Bundy converted to Mormonism. This makes sense as Bundy had spent time killing in Utah. The Mormon Church has connections to these things- there are around 100,000 practising polygamists in the US according to author Jon Krakaur. Many of these people marry children, and use the polygamist angle to traffic girls and women. They use religious excuses to operate outside of the law.
See:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs
If you look at Mormon holy sites, you'll find profuse Satanic iconography and anti-christian themes
So Ted Bundy was a Morman... That alone would not be too noteworthy if it weren't for his odd letters to would-be Reagan assassin John Hinckley Jr.
He drops a lot of strange language that refers to Monarch mind control- references to butterflies, women, and control. They also seems to be speaking in some sort of code- many letters from Hinckley references a film, and all of Bundy's responses contains the phrase "the haunting score" in reference to all these films being discussed.
On a side note, taken at face value they are rather amusing as they bicker over who's cooler, has a better wife, and politics. Ted Bundy's actually a pretty funny dude when he wants to be.
I'll admit, perhaps the odd repetition of the phrase "haunting score" is some sort of subtle brag about BUNDY'S "haunting score."
Here are the letters. The site is run by a Satanist. http://www.sickofyourcrap.com/tedbundy-johnhinckley-letters/
The Son Of Sam murderer David Berkowitz (who was also pen pals with Bundy) told author Maury Terrry that he worked with a Satanic cult (the OTO) to slaughter people and committed most but not every murder- he claims he covered for accomplices on a few of the deaths. There is a lot of evidence indicating he wasn't lying.
To sum it up, Ted Bundy had connections with human trafficking, satanism, assassins, and mind control. And Mormons. And politicians. And cops.
85 comments
8 ifltrdby 2016-10-05
And a good morning to you. Hinckley, having just been released, lives about a half an hour away. 0_0 just another oddity in my existence.
4 daddie_o 2016-10-05
So you don't buy the argument that these serial murders were hoaxed and the whole satanic abuse angle is just misdirection?
5 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
i try to keep an agnostic view of such things, and I like to consider all viewpoints. I'm going with the angle I believe the facts lead to. Although I respect the work of people going with that theory i don't believe it's an across-the-board thing with these cases. i think many of these serial killers served other purposes and just shut their mouths about the drugrunning, human trafficking, and assasination stuff- thereby turning from gangsters and hitmen to serial killers with no motive beyond "doing what they do." Then the media jumps on these cases and the serve a Gladio-type purpose- to frighten the masses into the loving arms of authoritarian control.
Very odd that Bundy shares the exact same bizarre family story as Jack Nicholson's though!
In his mid-twenties Ted found out that the girl he had known as big sister his whole life was actually his mother, and that Mom and Dad were really his grandparents. He discovered this on his own by researching his birth records; nobody in his family had ever told him
I'm on the fence about some of those cases. Manson's case seems very hoaxy and a few others.
Hell, one could even view some of my evidence as fitting that framework, don't you think?
1 daddie_o 2016-10-05
Yes, one could. I think an agnostic view here is a good one. There is a lot of evidence pointing to some kind of underground network of child trafficking and kiddie porn, as well as satanic ritual abuse and trauma-based mind control. I think the people running the child trafficking and kiddie porn rings (if true) could just be in it for the money. As for the ritual abuse and MK-ultra, it could very well be. I was very much a believer until I got wise to all the hoaxes. Now I just don't know. But it would be a good way to create a bunch of compliant slaves to do your dirty work and take the blame all the same, even if the assassinations and serial murders, etc. are actually hoaxed.
3 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
These things to serve a political purpose- there's a practice called "sanctifying" in the intelligence community. It's where they find/create blackmail material on influential people, often politicians.
Operation Midnight Climax, Craig Spence, who was funded and supported by the CIA in his activities, Jeffrey Epstein (likely IMO) all work towards this purpose.
The poster child for Monarch mind control is Marilyn Manroe. She was sleeping with ALL the influential married men- JFK and his brother Robert, mobster Sam Giancana, etc.
When she died and her home was sold, the couple that bought it found extensive bugging equipment and 2 way mirrors and such. It cost them $100,000 to remove- and this was many decades ago!
I believe she was a tool used to "sanctify" influential people..
As for the SRA angle, Look at the False Memory Syndrome Foundation- they are the ones responsible for spreading the "satanic panic" meme... which is weird- they had all been accused of being pedos and many had links to MK-Ultra, often being direct participants. A very sketchy group. Their Wiki isn't all that sympathetic to them last i looked:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_Memory_Syndrome_Foundation
But for a full rundown, Whale.to has a great breakdown of every single member and their crimes and creepy connections:http://whale.to/c/falsememory.html Which is something the WIKI page largely glosses over. These hatchetpeople were courted by the press and taken very seriously, despite their affiliations.
Why would such a bizarre group change the narrative so thoroughly that even diehard conspiracy theorists often talk down about the "satanic panic."
2 curiosity36 2016-10-05
This is a great article on some of the shady members of the FMSF- False Memory Syndrome Foundation: Questionable Board Members Tied to the CIA's MKULTRA program and Child Abuse
https://isgp-studies.com/FMSF_freaks
I believe Dr. Persinger (supposedly a head scientist in OPERATION SLEEPING BEAUTY) is a member. He is responsible for a device called "The God Helmet" that can simulate meeting God, extraterrestrials, out of body experiences, or just flood the brain with chemicals like heroin does. Yet, here he is, discrediting people who claim to have had such "impossible" experiences- there's no gov't funded black projects going on! People are misremembering! It's a hoax. We've got a whole panel of experts who agree!
More on modern mind control at: www.unitedagainstmindcontrol.wordpress.com
2 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
I wish I could upvote you more! You just provided a very important piece of this puzzle- Dr. Elizabeth Loftus of the FMSF provided "expert testimony" for Ted Bundy!
Check out the bizarre section of her wiki I provided. She's been involved in many, many public trials. Fuckjit, I'll copypaste-
Notable cases she has been involved in due to her expertise include the McMartin preschool trial, O.J. Simpson, the trials of mass murderers Ted Bundy, Willie Mak, and Angelo Bueno, the Abscam cases, the trial of Oliver North, the trial of the officers accused in the Rodney King beating, the trial of the Menendez brothers, the Bosnian War trials in the Hague, the Oklahoma City bombing case, and litigation involving Michael Jackson, Martha Stewart, Lewis "Scooter" Libby and the Duke University Lacrosse team.[7][8][10][11][15]
Wow. What can this mean? Rodney King? What?
Your links have led me down a path that connected many theories of mine. A post is coming where i tie them together. I'm going to give you thanks in it, if that's cool.
2 curiosity36 2016-10-05
Cool. Glad you found it so helpful :)
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Amazing site. I'm glad I finally gave it a chance. Your research is outstanding, though I'm still not quite convinced that you didn't experience some sort of psychotic break awhile back.
But I guess that's the point of this type of technology. Hard to prove, powerful.
2 curiosity36 2016-10-05
Thanks, glad you gave it a read. I'm open to any explanations and have tried over a dozen different anti-psychotics and combinations of psych drugs to no avail.
1 daddie_o 2016-10-05
Great links, thanks!
Yes, the blackmail angle, I had forgotten about that. Definitely play a role. I remember reading a theory on the rigorous intuition blog some years ago that Reagan, who had been a liberal Democrat in the 40s, went to a Hollywood party with underage 'MKUltra' betas programmed for sex. Even if he didn't indulge, just taking pictures of him around that scene would be enough. I know they say this is what the CIA does with foreign diplomats. I suppose it could be true and another purpose behind all of this.
0 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
No problem:)
These are all difficult problems with a lot of layers of BS and misdirection- sometimes it's hard to tell what is really what!
-1 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
isnt this the part that is the controlled opposition MKUSKS? ...
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Well, not in the classic sense of the term. From Urban Dictionary:
A controlled opposition is a protest movement that is actually being led by government agents. Nearly all governments in history have employed this technique to trick and subdue their adversaries. Notably Vladimir Lenin who said ''The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
Count Mirabeau was part of the controlled opposition, because although everyone thought he was supporting the revolution, in reality he supported the monarchy and was a personal friend of the king. He was a government agent.
Oh and interestig read about The Fool Card BTW CR:)
0 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
TY actually i think it is half you but you are not nieve .... so there is more to that another day ... the bottom felt kinda lot more like me so that gave me something to think about
i really like bukowski.... i posted a poem [and someone magically deleted one shouldnt have but your choice it was exceptional [and in a much better way than hillary clintoon thinks she is] but i kinda understand..... so check it out it spoke to me the most of his so far.....
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Ha me being shy about such things, sorry... also for me not being find your poem! What to do?
Hey, when I was looking for it I stumbled on your 9/11 post. This is fascinating...
0 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
TY expecially about my grandfather he hated this building and made me promise him [ i only went in 3 times ever.... all work related but he knew what was what when he made me promise....protecting the DNA so to speak
1 Exec99 2016-10-05
Too soon
2 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
daddie_o! i just found a very interesting angle on this that may support either one of our theories... maybe more yours actually.
Check this bitch out- Dr. Elizabeth Loftus of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. She provided "expert testimony" for Bundy... what's fascinating is looking at ALL the cases she's shilled for. From her Wiki:
Notable cases she has been involved in due to her expertise include the McMartin preschool trial, O.J. Simpson, the trials of mass murderers Ted Bundy, Willie Mak, and Angelo Bueno, the Abscam cases, the trial of Oliver North, the trial of the officers accused in the Rodney King beating, the trial of the Menendez brothers, the Bosnian War trials in the Hague, the Oklahoma City bombing case, and litigation involving Michael Jackson, Martha Stewart, Lewis "Scooter" Libby and the Duke University Lacrosse team.[7][8][10][11][15]
What do you think of that?
2 daddie_o 2016-10-05
Wow, she's been involved in many of the major hoax trials Miles has uncovered. Her participation in the others suggests they were also bogus. And her bio has 'spook' written all over it. The weird thing to me is that I run in academic circles and nearly became a colleague of hers, though I never met her in person.
I don't know if this adds any evidence or not. They've got some person who has built a career on showing how faulty people's memories are. She seems to have played a role in hoaxed events. But her research would also be relevant if you wanted to discredit MKULTRA/child abuse victims (if such are even real). So I don't know if it adds evidence one way or another... what do you think?
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Oh man, I... don't know. I feel that this leans towards your camp's theories. or maybe it's a mix of both of ours?
I am conflicted. This requires further research. Maybe you or Miles can lend a hand? I'm not exaggerating when I say that y'alls research far exceeds anything in my competence.
Interesting that she orbited close to you- can this be exploited? On the other hand, it honestly may be dangerous considering your proximity and profession.
She may be a catch-all agent- there for both hoaxes and defense of actual conspiracies. Other FMSF members have been involved in obvious hoaxes like the SLA...https://isgp-studies.com/FMSF_freaks
2 daddie_o 2016-10-05
I cannot speak for Miles. He goes his own way but you could put together a coherent e-mail asking him his opinion about the MKULTRA and false memory syndrome and send it to him. He might answer you.
As for me, I currently don't have the time, but I will consider giving it more attention and thought when I do. I think the question of whether MKULTRA and all the stuff that swirls around it is just a hoax (or what elements of it are just blowing smoke) is an interesting and important one. Not sure it's a question we can even really answer.
My career eventually took me on a path far away from Loftus, so she's not anywhere near any of my social circles nowadays.
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Well, that's an honest answer. Damn, I guess I'll summon the guts to contact him. I'm sure he gets a lot of mail from random strangers... eh... no. I won't do that. Through r/conspiracy I have access to others- my post generated enough group knowledge to fill in many gaps in my theories.
I'm just going to crowdsource this MF'er.
Anyway, I enjoyed this discussion regardless. Glad you're not around her anymore. if you remember anything noteworthy about her social circle or reputation please share.
Cheers:)
2 daddie_o 2016-10-05
Why not e-mail him? Worst that could happen is that he doesn't answer you or gives you an unsatisfactory answer. If you want, you can send me the e-mail first to make sure it's coherent and presentable.
Anyway, I'm not around her now nor was I ever. I was offered a job in her department, which I declined. She was not around then and I was told that she was rarely around, mainly due to all her expert witness testimony and demand as a speaker, etc. She is considered an academic super star.
0 Vitalogy0107 2016-10-05
That's what I buy, daddie_o. By the way, incredible essay on the Dreyfus affair! For all those who wish to read Daddie_o's outing of the Dreyfus Affair as another faked event, check it out here: http://mileswmathis.com/dreyfus.pdf
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Ditto! I felt silly for not having heard about it beforehand...
0 Vitalogy0107 2016-10-05
Me too, haha.
3 SAMMMY_3 2016-10-05
What do you want to know exactly, if they are connected? Yes, they are. How? Through the Satanic underground and shared beliefs. The common thread for all these people going back to Manson is the Process church. They kill because according to the church doctrine creating chaos hastens the arrival of the New World Order.
Race wars have been planned for centuries, it was the Freemasons who owned most slaves.Charlie was just following the script, Helter Skelter is coming down fast! Zebra killing, same thing. Cops killing black folk is related too.
3 Autocoprophage 2016-10-05
Just popping in to say I've investigated a lot of this stuff myself, and this information is totally accurate. Good job fellow soldier
2 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Thanks dude:)
2 blieveit 2016-10-05
have you seen where the process church now resides... Utah
1 SAMMMY_3 2016-10-05
Thanks bro.
-2 SAMMMY_3 2016-10-05
What do you think all these slave films are about? "12 years a Slave", "The Help", "DJango Unchained", "The Color Purple", "Roots". All are designed to stir the pot of racial discord and prevent any healing to happen.
3 Exec99 2016-10-05
Really good discussion here and don't have time to read all of it now so I plan to come back later. For now, I wanted to ask if anyone thinks that the links to satanism may be used to cover up the real source of the trouble (ie mind control research). Such that, if someone started to notice connections, they could mistakenly think that the link is Satan/devil worship and not something that is just as sinister but not as easily dismissed as satanism.
Also, I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but many cults that have sprung up since the 1950's are also related.
2 blieveit 2016-10-05
THIS. ritual amplifies the abuse but it could be any ritual. After the early days of MK they did not need to use the satanic angle, they just electroshocked the kids for enough trauma instead.
2 Exec99 2016-10-05
Damn yes you are right. Im glad someone else gets it
2 blieveit 2016-10-05
haha me too. I mean the satanic stuff is a distraction.
Like you said there have been SEVERAL mk associated cults, Jonestown is a well known one and there are some relevant wikileaks on it too.
"psychic driving" was the next step beyond the cults and there is quite a bit of documentation on the experiments done in Canada since there were successful lawsuits.
People think "mind control" research consisted of watching people take a single LSD dose like in buzzfeed article but it's more like solitary confinement with 20xLSD dose every day for 3 or more weeks, oh right and this was done to children.
1 Exec99 2016-10-05
Do you know about Assange's experience with "The Family?"
2 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
RT has documentaries on witnesses who speak what was done to them [not addressing your assange question but the guy above
they interviewed quite a few witnesses and the very sad stories they have related happened to them as children or as young teens in the very wrong place at the very wrong time
are you concerned that this sub is closing today? why are they doing that?
1 blieveit 2016-10-05
I have heard tail of it but I've never seen an OG source I would quote (would love one though..) To me it is incredibly concerning if it were to be true.
n/a MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Very strange how many celebrities have come out of that cult and others.
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
I am inclined to think the satanic angle may be partially to lend a silly ring to these crimes when the witnesses speak. Also probably to draw in some weirdo social outcasts who are into theistic Satanism AKA luciferianism.
2 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
or politicians
1 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
do you really think that is the source ....interesting twist ....
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-10-05
Yep. Bunch of intelligence agents.
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
I just found out about Dr. Elizabeth Loftus of the false Memory Syndrome foundation-, who provided 'expert testimony" for ted Bundy- check out this section of her wiki:
Notable cases she has been involved in due to her expertise include the McMartin preschool trial, O.J. Simpson, the trials of mass murderers Ted Bundy, Willie Mak, and Angelo Bueno, the Abscam cases, the trial of Oliver North, the trial of the officers accused in the Rodney King beating, the trial of the Menendez brothers, the Bosnian War trials in the Hague, the Oklahoma City bombing case, and litigation involving Michael Jackson, Martha Stewart, Lewis "Scooter" Libby and the Duke University Lacrosse team.[7][8][10][11][15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Loftus#Expert_testimony
WTF... what does this mean? Are those stories/people fake or compromised??
2 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-10-05
I don't know about McMartin as I've only researched that one from the perspective that argues it was covered up and children actually were abused, but I think many/most of the others were managed events, either manufactured entirely by intelligence or guided along to the desired result.
Mass murderers in general, AKA serial killers, are in my mind an intel creation meant to cause fear and chaos, with maybe a couple of "real" exceptions (though I actually haven't found any). The OJ trial was absurd for many reasons once you start reading the details. Oklahoma City bombing likewise. Rodney King's beating was on every news channel and newspaper around the country for weeks or months at a time, and anything that gets that much airtime from the mainstream is automatically suspect. Think of all the other fishy events that have gotten airtime like that: 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing, Scopes Monkey Trial, etc., etc.
So yeah, Dr. Liz is most likely a spook or a spook asset, and these events most likely involve hidden actors/agents from the CIA or similar agencies. At least that would be my guess. You notice a lot of the same judges, lawyers, reporters, interviewers, jails, towns, etc. involved in all of these events, so that's always one clue to look out for.
1 RemoteViewingTrainee 2016-10-05
http://www.hereinreality.com/hinckley.html
1 Time2SinTime2Live 2016-10-05
Good article, thanks.
As a side note, the creator of Mormonism, Joseph Smith, was a freemason.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-10-05
There is also a twilight language connection outlined by Michael Hoffman in secret societies and psychological warfare which I highly recommend you read and add your connections to this.
You are on to something huge here MKUsk, glad someone else finally said something about the Mormon situation. Most Mormons are absolutely clueless about the origin and activities of the church. But the higher ups I imagine are as fucked as Scientology's leaders. Its fair to compare the two, since they are both pseudognostic useful idiot cult spin offs from freemasonry .
The import of this is that the in the intellugence community, the Mormon affiliation represents a majority. If anyone has actual stats of CIA/NSA employee / staff religious affiliation please please please post it on conspiracy. I read years ago it was 43% but cannot find this anymore as it would seem to be scrubbed or I'm asking google the wrong question.
3 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Thanks, man:) I feel like there's a piece of this puzzle I'm overlooking though and it's bugging me...
As for the Moroni's, It's a slow realization that's been a long time coming. This may sound silly but I had some Mormon friends who I really liked, and for years I let that cloud my judgement on the matter... but they weren't Fundamentalist and were very low level. One thing about the LDS I find amusing is that the most Republican county in the most republican state (Utah) leads the country in welfare donations because of all the "single mothers" who are actually married in plural situations. Mormans encourage this sort of thing- they call it "bleeding the beast."
Hoffman, I'd not heard of him until now- his stuff looks fascinating. I want a copy of his book! He addresses the Son Of Sam case too, I'd love to see what he has to say on it. After looking him up it seems he's accrued quite a bit of derision and kickback from the cough skeptics with little real reason behind it. That's a bit of negative confirmation for me, because what I just read of his was very intelligent.
http://whale.to/b/hoffman_m_h.html
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-10-05
Whoa.
Hoffman's talk "the Occult Philosophy" on youtube is amazing. I hate the background btw, it makes me dizzy so I minmized the window.
Here is a very good article at Media Monarchy about Hoffman.
2 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
DUDE- curiosity36 provided that last annoying puzzle piece I was missing, and it's implications are huge IMO- Dr. Elizabeth Loftus of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation provided "expert testimony" in favor of Ted Bundy at his trial. Check out this section of her wiki
Notable cases she has been involved in due to her expertise include the McMartin preschool trial, O.J. Simpson, the trials of mass murderers Ted Bundy, Willie Mak, and Angelo Bueno, the Abscam cases, the trial of Oliver North, the trial of the officers accused in the Rodney King beating, the trial of the Menendez brothers, the Bosnian War trials in the Hague, the Oklahoma City bombing case, and litigation involving Michael Jackson, Martha Stewart, Lewis "Scooter" Libby and the Duke University Lacrosse team.[7][8][10][11][15]
What do all those connections mean? i think you know.
Also I found a great letter between Aldous Huxley and timothy Leary that is very revealing. I will make another post about it soon, make it long and well sourced. Sometimes the search for truth can be a bit like gambling... do you know what I mean? When you find those elusive connections and evidence, finally.
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-10-05
You should combine your research on huxley and leary with Jan Irvin's MKULTRA research I think he's made connections also. I am trying hard to find a way for us (you + me + others on conspiracy and cst) to collaborate on a mind map / wall board.
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
hey there, sorry for the late response. I had to take a break from the election time shitposting going on....
I've had a lot of computer problems lately and am stuck on mobile, which limits me a quite a bit.
In the last week or so of lurking I've seen some great posts still pop up, but it also seems that a lot of inorganic users and shitposts are diluting the sub. Is it just me? Do you see what I see?
2 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
MKultraSK
i was actually
wondering if you had been
disappeared ... some have
2 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Computer problems
Boredom seeped
Lurked
No real users 'round- only socks
Maybe a partisan hoping for change
Infiltrated and corrupted
Useful idjits?
Lurked and lurked
I'm back
This place needs real people
This buds for you
I'm not locked in a suitcase yet
1 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
TY so much
i really and truly have MISSED you ....
your poetry drips i like the free fall.....[love love love the socks!]
TY for the bud im smoking it....
and truly MKUSK what freakin suitcase could hold you!!! yay
2 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Lol missed you too lady:) I dunno what kind of suitcase could hold me- I'm a bit more stout than gareth Williams
As for socks though I meant sockpuppets- election year is bringing them out full force!
2 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
i knew you meant sock puppets and the suitcase was strickly figuratively
monster sock puppets ....[living dead literally / clones is it holloween or election day]
1 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
i only just clicked the gareth link that is so damn bizarre ... poor dude locked in a red bag tsk tsk tsk ... ruled accidental? i d say
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
right? That whole case is super fishy.
2 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
i would say and scrubbed so clean !?
2 911bodysnatchers322 2016-10-05
Yes, you are 100% correct. I've been going fucking nuts all week because of it. I was ragequitting every few hours. Thankfully /u/noelabelle was there to comfort me via email
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Well glad you found someone genuine in this muck! Lol
Any other interesting subs?
I'll be in seriakillers and morbid reality...
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Whoa, he mentioned Louis Ferdinand Celine, one of my favorite writers! His book ":journey to the end of night" blew my mind, maaaan.
looks at Celine's wiki
Aw, he worked for the League Of Nations at one point. Huh. On the other hand, he fled France after charges of antisemitism. he also wrote to Vichy newspapers about the jews, but hated Hitler.
Now I'm confused. I guess people aren't b&w.
Dammit, are none of my heroes real? It's hard to tell these days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Ferdinand_C%C3%A9line
Anyway, I liked that Hoffman video a lot and am listening to his video on white slaves in early America... not that I care about silly race issues, but because it is hidden history...
1 exmo-journalist 2016-10-05
This is related to a potential investigation I have in the backlog after the completion of my current piece.
Some interesting connections you may or may not be aware of -
D. Corydon Hammond
Glenn L. Pace
World Wide Association Of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASP)
I'm not trying to say that I have verified completely these items. I will say that I think they warrant a new thorough look through and examination. There are many things that my intuition says that are worth looking into here.
Please message me if you want to compare notes.
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Some very good info you've got there, new guy. Thanks for the extensive corroboration:)
I will certainly steal some of this info for a future post.
1 curiosity36 2016-10-05
Recommended reading on this subject: Programmed to Kill
a book by David McGovern
http://whale.to/b/govern_b.html
2 RightNowImReady 2016-10-05
Do you know anything about Cathy O'Brien and her story? Is she telling the truth or lying to get money/fame ?
2 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
I really don't know. After seeing her interview on Disinfo's short lived tv show, I'm sure that SHE'S convinced her story is true, but what evidence do we have to corroborate? I must admit, she looks quite haunted in the interview.
It certainly may be true. if it's not, I truly wish peace upon that troubled lady.
1 curiosity36 2016-10-05
I could really only speculate. O'Brien's claims strike me as just too far-fetched, but I could recount some truly bizarre and surreal things that happened to me. I think the circle of people who know about mind control is very small by necessity. I read some documents obtained through the FOIA wherein the CIA discussed having to keep their mind control ops secret from the vast majority of even trusted CIA agents- taking over people's souls is such an affront to humanity that it begs whistleblowers. I can't imagine they'd create sex kittens and lend them out to Bob Hope. It's a weird world though.
1 Exec99 2016-10-05
"I can't imagine they'd create sex kittens and lend them out to Bob Hope. It's a weird world though. "
Has pizzagate changed your mind on this? It has at least made me open to the possibility
2 curiosity36 2016-10-05
It's a possibility. Check out my story on my page sometime. It's pretty unbelievable but I swear it's all true. I'd take a polygraph.
www.unitedagainstmindcontrol.wordpress.com
n/a MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
I was wrong, Disinfo actually interviewed Price Taylor- a woman who gave Cathy O'brien and her weird CIA husband Mark Phillips a free room and board for awhile, only to find herself used by them.
She's far more convincing than Cathy O'brien.
2 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
I think you mean David Mcgowan, curiosity36:)
That's one of my favorite books. I've posted the PDF countless times but cannot find them by searching r/conspiracy! I accidentally deleted the link and can't find it now, dammit. It was on something called "fringechan"...
2 curiosity36 2016-10-05
Ah, didn't know that. They spell it as I did on the page I linked. I just copy pasted.
1 curiosity36 2016-10-05
https://fringechan.org/library/src/1456411474807-1.pdf
EDIT- Just google the title with "pdf" after it. This was one of the first to come up.
2 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Fuck yeah! No we can both pepper that MF'er around reddit:)
That's one book that I always find myself referencing for info. I swear a day will come when I've memorized it lol.
2 curiosity36 2016-10-05
Right on. Yeah, it fits into a lot of plot lines.
n/a MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Aaand it's gone.
At least there's this:
https://media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1424851003532-0.pdf
1 Atkailash 2016-10-05
The larger Mormon church and the ones currently practicing polygamy and the younger marriages are different. The church had a split when it officially stopped polygamy when it became illegal.
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Yeah, the Mormons and the LDS and the literally hundreds of offshoots over the years often get confused. I will say this- the structure of the religion encourages ALL followers to be "prophets", whoich has caused over 200 followers over the years to form offshoots.
Also I find the whole thing with the symbolism to be quite creepy.
2 Atkailash 2016-10-05
Mormon/LDS is the same. FLDS and hundreds of others are different
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
AH thank you. I got confused.
0 411011 2016-10-05
Wo
0 clovize 2016-10-05
This is consistent with other notorious killers such as Otis Toole and Henry Lee Lucas who claimed to be in a hired for murder cult. See The Use of Cultists and Serial Killers in Death Squad Hits: http://www.newnationalist.net/2016/07/06/the-use-of-cultists-and-serial-killers-in-death-squad-hits/
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
That was a great read. I'm really starting to like that New Nationalist site.
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Well, not in the classic sense of the term. From Urban Dictionary:
A controlled opposition is a protest movement that is actually being led by government agents. Nearly all governments in history have employed this technique to trick and subdue their adversaries. Notably Vladimir Lenin who said ''The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
Count Mirabeau was part of the controlled opposition, because although everyone thought he was supporting the revolution, in reality he supported the monarchy and was a personal friend of the king. He was a government agent.
Oh and interestig read about The Fool Card BTW CR:)
0 chickyrogue 2016-10-05
TY actually i think it is half you but you are not nieve .... so there is more to that another day ... the bottom felt kinda lot more like me so that gave me something to think about
i really like bukowski.... i posted a poem [and someone magically deleted one shouldnt have but your choice it was exceptional [and in a much better way than hillary clintoon thinks she is] but i kinda understand..... so check it out it spoke to me the most of his so far.....
1 MKULTRAserialkillers 2016-10-05
Oh man, I... don't know. I feel that this leans towards your camp's theories. or maybe it's a mix of both of ours?
I am conflicted. This requires further research. Maybe you or Miles can lend a hand? I'm not exaggerating when I say that y'alls research far exceeds anything in my competence.
Interesting that she orbited close to you- can this be exploited? On the other hand, it honestly may be dangerous considering your proximity and profession.
She may be a catch-all agent- there for both hoaxes and defense of actual conspiracies. Other FMSF members have been involved in obvious hoaxes like the SLA...https://isgp-studies.com/FMSF_freaks
2 Atkailash 2016-10-05
Mormon/LDS is the same. FLDS and hundreds of others are different