Christ almighty, r-politics has official transformed into the internet-branch of the Clinton campaign. A smart move since the official Hillary subreddit obviously flopped. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this, so reddit admins are bought off or simply allowing it.

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I am voting "none of the above" for the record. This isn't a blue vs. red thing.

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Probably related to Correct the Record and other PACs spreading propaganda.

Probably Inarguably

You guys are deluded. Reddit is on average very liberal. /r/politics is a hillary love fest because, by and large, reddit users cannot fathom a Donald Trump presidency.

This is like going to Drudge and claiming a right wing conspiracy because the comments are Trump leaning.

Is there fuckery going on. Yes. But the headline itself destroys the whole theory here. If correct the record was so powerful, why couldnt they make /r/hillaryclinton take off?

The Bernie Bros are shutting up and taking their medicine. If this fact is surprising to anyone, well, I'd like for you to hear about the importance of investing in gold.

You're neglecting the obvious censorship. Many top posts are deleted with thousands of upvotes for no reason (other than they are critical of Clinton). Other issues are regularly deleted as well, such as criticism of Israel.

You're neglecting the obvious censorship

Including the bans... I've been banned from /r/hillaryclinton, /r/SandersForPresident /r/Kossacks_for_Sanders and /r/Political_Revolution for being anti-Hillary (only one of these bans makes any sense).

And even after all the /r/SandersForPresident bans, that wasn't enough. The sub owner shut down the subreddit and deleted his account after laughing at Bernie supporters, thus silencing a 200k+ subreddit and preventing potential anti-Hillary posts from reaching the top of /r/all

The best part is all the spam subs the same people created

Enoughtrumpspam

enoughberniespam

enoughlibertarianspam (lol)

enoughhillaryhate

They literally flood politics with these spam articles and then create a different sub to talk politics

Im banned from /r/askreddit,/r/politics, /r/hillaryclinton and obv /r/EnoughTrumpSpam

they are all agents of the devil.

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Your account history reveals heavy anti-Sanders and pro-Clinton activity (I'm not posting this comment to you... just so others can see it)

To be fair most Bernie supporters have never had a job and are financial dependants so it's not like they'd know these things

Bernie supporters parents pay for their candidate.

uh oh, they deleted their account. LOL

Hahahah

Good name, wish the Hitler Hillary thing would take off in mainstream media though me getting two suicide shots to the back of my head after this comment seem more likely

lol. donald may be a buffoon, but at least there aren't slews and slews of dead bodies trailing his career.

Thanks for answering my question :)

Thanks for proving my point.

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Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. 1st warning.

Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. 1st warning.

Censorship is evil.

Like hillary

I have a bridge to sell you

Know when you've lost lol

This is /r/conspiracy

I win a priori hahahahaah

Yeah cause you made such a solid point that wasn't bullshit at all. Whatever you wanna tell yourself. What's that quote. Can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason into?

He said there is fuckery. So he didn't ignore it.

Saying it's 100% CTR is frustrating though. People not paid have a bias too.

Or should we suggest that THIS sub is infiltrated by, let's say, Canadian shills that want to deflate the USD by electing Trump? It's just as substantial as claiming that because we know there's paid shilling, that it's ALL paid shilling.

It's not. People hate Trump more than Hillary. And unfortunately are hesitant with third parties. To me, that's the most frustrating part. It's not just shills, people I talk to in real life (give it a shot) are in the same boat.

Before the primary ended, that sub was pro bernie and anti Hillary. And anti Trump. Now just anti Trump

People are being paid to have a bias. That's quite literally what CTR does.

If reddit was very liberal then it wouldn't support Clinton.

Ding ding ding

Except the democratic policies this election are easiliy the most liberal of any candidate.

I am reddit and I don't support Hillary.

why couldn't they make r/hilliaryclinton take off?

It'd be too obviously a turf town.

Much easier to buy admins/mods and control the narrative of a sub with real users

Were you even here the last year and a half of r/politics up until CTR got that $5 million in extra funding?

I used to like r/politics. if anyone tries to defend that sub you know they are CTR, or just a complete fucking idiot.

Yes, everyone is a paid shill..... EVERYONE

ok buddy. maybe slow down on the cough syrup-- or maybe don't.

It's kool aid

definitely not "cool" aid

Says "hitlary for prison" lol...

Seriously, not everything is a conspiracy, not everyone is a paid shill, and not everything on either politics OR conspiracy is going to be accurate.

Duh.

Well obviously... What does that have to do with their username?

That they're not going to be subtle or unbiased.

Seriously, subs like this have a great purpose. But it gets out of hand. The whole "everyone's a paid shill" thing....

Well in my opinion, there is more than enough evidence that HRC should be convicted and sentenced. Also somebody's username is a very small piece of information that typically lends very little to the identity of the poster. I'm just saying criticize the message not the name of the poster. However I do agree with your clarification that things do get out of hand. This sub tends to attract unhinged people and saboteurs with their own agendas, as well as curious folks and people who seek alternative viewpoints.

How dare you make such a coherent and well reasoned response, good sir!

Thanks for taking the time to engage and respond, REDDIT NEEDS YOU!

awaaaaaaay!

Some morons do it for free.

It's true, many of the people on politics who are belligerent and insultive trolls in their support for Hillary aren't paid off. You know, the ones that argue in circles and result to insults and thinks providing sources of information about your argument is stupid, comes across as extraordinarily belligerent. Believe it or not most aren't shills, the sadder state of affairs OP is that most Americans are just retarded. We can blame "the elites" for pushing shitty foods and vaccines and dumping toxic chemicals on us, but at the end of the day we do it to ourselves. I wonder how many Mexicans built that prison wall knowing it would be a cage for him and his kind, but did it anyways because paychecks.

I wonder how many cameras that guy installed on military missle drones before he thought "this will be used to murder children" but decided fuck it, paycheck. I wonder how many military veterans joined knowing that the war was wrong, knowing that we are the new Nazis come to invade other lands and steal, knowing we would commit atrocities that our future children, if we have future children, would never ever forgive us for if they ever knew. But fuck it, GI bill, I need to pay muh college.

We can complain about the 999 "super elite" (just worthless pedo fags is all they are) all day long but in the end, we do it to ourselves.

Politics is of course shilled and manipulated, no doubt about it. But the sad, pathetic, disheartening truth OP, is that most Americans are just as much of a warhawking soul sucking worthless skeezy pedophilic murderer as Hillary Clinton. Or Trump for that matter.

Dude, I'm an American and definitely not all Americans are like that. Most people just try to fucking get through the day

yes. exactly. this is reddit, and conspiracy / politics isn't even representative of reddit as a whole, let alone society as a whole.

It's not like either place has all the answers.

I never said "all" Americans. But the idiots are a large enough majority.

That's what I mean. People have opinions and don't always have all the facts.

Do you honestly think everyone on this sub is right about everything....? Seriously?

People all over are right and wrong, and the truth is getting harder and harder to find.

But keep making blanket statements and voting on feels.

/sigh - more a rant to others than to you.

I have yet to see one positive post about Jill Stein... Ron Paul has spoken out a number of times about her and how great her policies are. So explain to me again how r/politics is unbiased. Shit I even posted a demographic the other day on post/up vote manipulation in one of their threads and had over 800 upvotes. Today that same post went down to 2... anything that gains traction calling out bias is down voted to oblivion wants it reaches the top of the thread.

Keep posting about Jill in that sub and others!

Hilarious.

You routinely see the same talking points. One of my favorites is

..."I used to be a Bernie supporter, but after hearing Hillary say so and so, I've officially thrown all my support behind her"

you forgot the exclamation points. "i'm now with her!!"

"you obviously weren't a true Bernie supporter or you would swear allegiance to Hillary..... (are you convinced by my insults to switch to her yet?)"

I see the same talking points against hillary and for trump. It goes both ways.

If people dislike the subredit don't follow it. No difference then a movie, tv show, news show, etc.

by and large, reddit users cannot fathom a Donald Trump presidency.

why couldnt they make /r/hillaryclinton take off?

reddit is so pro Hillary that she dominates r/politics but not enough people support her to get r/hillaryclinton running. So obviously correct the record isn't influencing r/politics. great explanation using logic to back up your conclusion

/s

Hillary isn't a liberal, and citing redddit's liberal bias is a red herring when a lot of redditors are libertarians or some such ilk.

they aren't though. There may be more libertarians in the mix than typical cross-section, but i wouldn't call them "a lot."

Get used to it. As we get closer to the election, it will get more divisive.

Do you actually have any demographic and statistical evidence of redditors and their political persuasions, or you talking out of your ass like I am?

Do you have evidence that /r/politics reflects anything other than redditors voting or do you accept OP talking out of his ass?

The headline says "it doesn't take a rocket scientist" to see there has been corruption, with no evidence. But that is probably fine for you because it comports with your chosen narrative.

I'm not defending what the OP is saying, just criticizing you. Nice attempt at deflection though.

I was giving an alternate explanation for an unfounded claim by OP. Nice attempt at holding claims you don't like at a higher standard though.

I was giving an alternate explanation for an unfounded claim by OP.

With an unfounded claim.

Nice attempt at holding claims you don't like at a higher standard though.

You suck at arguing bro. I'm sorry I hurt your fee-fees (not really). Maybe you should quit drinking and stay high 24/7 like I am. Marijuana is such a better drug than alcohol.

Further: Why would correct the record even care if /r/hillaryclinton took off? They're alleged goal is not to win over people already supporting Hillary, but winning over independents and stating rebuttals to attacks on her.

I don't think they try to convince anyone to support Hillary. They just try to discredit anyone who doesn't support her.

/r/hillaryclinton take off?

the ONLY people there were paid HRC people, two comments per thread at the best, often zero replies or comments in a thread.

Upvoted. I don't understand why people think it's strange. Whether we like it or not, is a two part system. We can and should work to change that fact, but it didn't work out this time. We can now practice American democracy and shoot ourselves in the left foot or the right, dealers choice, it is a democracy after all.

The official Hillary sub didn't take off because no one subscribed to it. That's even more evidence for the fact that Reddit as a whole doesn't like Hillary.

We don't. Have you not noticed, it's all anti-Trump and in case you haven't noticed, it seems like it is well deserved hate for Trump.

Clinton is just the guy by default. But on the scale of evil from hitler being -10 and Lincoln being +10, clinton is at least on the positive side of the scale. Trump is well into the negatives.

Just remember there are few if any swing states this election.

Please VOTE, but give a 3rd party a chance. I'm going with the green party.

Also Google seems to be altering all suggestive searches to be very pro Hillary.

Weird how last century it was the information agr, and now we're heavily in the disinformation age.

Search engines used to try and outdo their competition, now they're in reverse and removing data and help that could hurt certain parties that are willing to pay for it.

I'm going with Johnson. 4 year libertarian here excited about the opportunity for both the Green Party and Libertarian Party despite conflicting ideology. This 2 party system is a breeding ground for corruption.

Gary has made a fool of himself in several interviews. He has such little understanding of the geopolitical scene it's embarrassing.

He has such little understanding of the geopolitical scene it's embarrassing.

I mean, if he was somehow elected president, he could easily get a meeting of dozens of experts to fill him in. Its not like presidents need to be experts on every single topic.

Its not like he has the funds for an expert team of advisers to prep him before every public appearance like the candidates of the main 2 parties

He doesn't need the funds for an expert team of advisors. He has not even the simplest understanding right now. The idea of getting a meeting of 'experts to fill him in' is ridiculous. Right now is not the time to vote third party to make a statement. Certainly not a vote for a guy like Gary Johnson. This type of thinking is part of the problem.

The idea of getting a meeting of 'experts to fill him in' is ridiculous.

Lmao, that is literally the game plan for any politician with access to knowledgeable people either by money or by connections - what is easier, asking a group of people for their facts and opinions about a topic, or reading dozens of articles and books about a topic?

Right now is not the time to vote third party to make a statement.

It never is. The republicans are always the eternal enemy and the democrats are always the good guys (or vise versa). Voting third party has been insulted for decades, let alone 2016.

Certainly not a vote for a guy like Gary Johnson.

i'm not even arguing in favor of Johnson, I'm just arguing against the silly notion that not knowing exact details on one out of millions of topics is somehow the worst thing in the world when politicians will have dozens of advisers giving them research, facts, and opinions on those same topics.

Dude, he couldn't even name a single other political leader from another country he respected. Not a single person.

I agree. It would be nice if our government represented both by class, as well as by region.

Different states matter less than certain areas.

I.e. North California and Southern California. Or any state sparsly populated has priorities that greatly differ between people in cities, and people in rural areas.

We desperately need a Constitutional convention, and a rework of our democracy from the ground up.

Let's take the last 250 years as inspiration, and build something better.

Thanks for recognizing this. I myself am from Kansas and it's so easy to see.

Yeah, I'd assume rural people there as well as many neighboring states, have much more similar values, compared to those that live in the city.

Johnson is in no way a libertarian, nor is Weld. Both lean hard to the liberal side, with Weld openly stating he believes Clinton is best suited to be president - not his own running mate...

Johnson is not libertarian and it drives me crazy that people are pushing a vote for him when all it does is help Hilary. I'm voting for Trump and independent down the rest of the ticket. Hopefully the next presidential run will have a real libertarian to vote for.

Depending on where you are. Kansas? Trump gets those electoral votes for sure, so you might as well make a "statement" vote. Ohio? May be a tossup, so now you have to worry about if your principles are worth it. It's only in these close states that a vote for third party means a vote for Clinton or Trump.

I'm in a state that is more than likely going with Tump. I would like to make a statement but I really don't trust polls so I don't feel as confident that Tump would take my state.

So you support expanding NSA spying powers, mass censorhip of the Internet, resigning in the Patriot Act and the 911 state of emergency that essentially places the country under martial law, as well as being okay with the fact that he was listed in the names of the note book that convicted pedophile and child rapist Jeffrey Epstien where they flew to a private island where they raped child prostitutes, of whom trump referred to as, and I quote, "a great guy and a great friend."

The same Trump that posted a 990 million dollar loss in one year that he has never gotten back that can be verified in any way, which happened after multiple casino hotels he ran into bankruptcy and ended up owning hundreds of millions to the backers? The same Trump who's most stable part of his career was hosting a reality TV show on Fox network?

That's the guy who you want to rule us? Really? That's the guy you think is an independent? The one with multiple bankers he already has planned to put into office? That guy is independent?

You people are fucking delusional.

Username checks out. I will have a civil discussion to debate the candidates and issues, but attacking me already shuts that door.

I'm not attacking you I'm just stating a fact, you Trumpettes are delusional and don't understand how mislead you are. You don't care to have a discussion either, fuck off I know you're full of shit, if I left off that last sentence you wouldn't respond at all, just ignore it. Go back to your the_donald sub so you can have Milo and jcm pull another scam attempt on you.

No the tone of all of your posts has been snarky. You sound like you're 15 and can't comprehend the complexities of the world. Do I like additional surveillance? No. Do I want censorship? No. I want more opportunities for Americans and less debt. The best candidate for that is Trump. Is he my ideal candidate? No, but I'll take the best we've got. I would never vote Hilary because of how dishonest and corrupt she is. And she is going to expand government way more than trump would. Gary Johnson is nowhere close to a libertarian. He is being pushed by the establishment republicans to give hilary more votes to win because they need their uniparty corrupt system to work. And on the tax issue, I'm not sure if you've noticed one of the subs I post in, but it's accounting because I'm a CPA. Carrying operating losses forward for many years to offset gains is allowed by the tax code. We are all laughing about the ignorance of people and this issue. If you are wealthy and can afford good accountants and lawyers you can substantially reduce, if not eliminate taxes you need to pay. Go look at some of the public companies effective tax rates and see how similar they are to your tax rate because of their write offs and deductions.

Actually evidence shows Johnson is hurting Clinton and is a major reason for the race being so narrow. Johnson and Weld are the libertarian parties best chance at getting federal funding next year if they reach 5% of the popular vote. Not telling you to vote for him, but just trying to give you my perspective as to why I'm voting for him.

Do you have a link for the johnson hurting clinton? Im curious about reading it. Everyone i know touting Johnson is a republican that is listening to the msm about Trump. That is a good point about the funding. I guess I'm holding out hope that Trump isn't a part of the system and can do something to help. If this was uniparty vs uniparty then Johnson would have my vote.

This might not be the best source but I have seen this multiple times Johnson takes votes from Clinton This is from about a month ago, but keep in mind, a wikileaks dump could bring a wave of Clinton jumpers to vote for Gary Johnson. I don't blame you for holding out hope with Trump. He has really shaken things up and I can see it being a positive change.

As conflicting the ideology is, I've found there are definitely ways to compromise (been testing with libs at work). For example, they would be good with replacing the over bureaucratic welfare system with a basic income. Also, they are OK with a cap-n-trade program to limit carbon emissions. And both parties want to remove all subsidies for corporations.

It's a good start, but won't do shit if we keep the FPTP vote.

It would take decades for a third party to rise to any significant status if we keep FPTP.

it doesn't matter, the votes don't count, and the sooner we admit it the better off we'll be for the future.

you boys and girls still talking about "voting" might as well be in Russia or DPRK talking about "voting" and "swing states" while 1 or 2 families pass the highest offices and appointments back and forth between their wives, sons, and business associates/campaign donors/family friends (which is what Trump is to both the Bush and Clinton families). The institutions of government have been seized by criminals and anti-democratic subversive elements of our society, and they're not accepting your "votes" anymore. See the past 30-40 years worth of elections for source/proof.

your votes don't matter, they don't count, they will always provide false results that appear to show a "close-run race" (like 54/46, or 51/49, or 48/52, like the current trump/clinton II polls, and like the way they scammed the primaries between sanders/clinton), so that their fraud seems believable.

Oh it's much worse than that. Worldwide oligarchy has been present for 100s of years. The only thing threatening to dislodge it, is the power of corportations, but most of them with any power are owned by the oligarchy.

So around and around we go, chasing our tales and missing the point.

Yet you so have to admire the strategy of using plots just above the understanding of most people.

Only if more people played chess and poker, they could strengthen their brain to the point of seeing the truth.

I find it disgusting Bernie and even Obama are flat out telling everyone how to vote

And to not vote third party

And even attacking the third party candidates themselves

I try to find it more amusing than disgusting.

If you stand back and watch, you get a much better view of the web of corruption they try and drag is into accepting.

I find it miserably unethical. The purpose of a democracy is to vote for the candidate you think is best, and saying you shouldn't because "they can't win" just seems so unamerican

Considering OP very specifically said s/he'd be voting "none of the above" I'm assuming OP is Nevadan where it's a constitutionally valid ballot choice. If that's the case, OP is in fact in one of the few toss-up states.

That said, it might not matter. 538's most recent analysis suggests the electorate is so pro-Clinton that she could lose every toss-up state and still walk away with a majority of electoral votes.

Yeah, last count I saw suggested she was likely to get over 300 votes from the electoral college, and Trump still has weeks to shove his foot further down his own throat.

Even Republicans are leaning Democrat these days. Although to be fair, Clinton is more Republican than Democrat in reality.

I dunno I get downvoted for reminding people of every Hillary fact we've been elucidated with so far this year in every subreddit but this one, political_revolution, jillstein, and socialism. CTR is really aiming at helping the already-short term-memory-deficient American population fully forget why Hillary is a dangerous elitist neoliberal.

Going to r/politics would lead one to believe that almost every Redditor is a rabid, pathological Hillary fan.

But when you go to r/HillaryClinton, it's lame, near-devoid of enthusiasm by comparison. Some might even call it "low energy".

The reason: CTR folks aren't being paid to make r/HillaryClinton great, but to make the rest of Reddit suck, and they're succeeding.

I could deal with the posts for a while, but today when every single post that hit the front page was against Pence and for Kaine, I unsubscribed. I like to read all kinds of different views but that sub only has one to give.

Politics is way more rabidly anti trump than pro Clinton.

LOL @ CTR trying their BS in here. You have no power here.

And remember kids!

A vote for "the lesser of two evils" is still a vote for evil!

Why are you guys still going there? I've not been to anywhere on reddit other than a few 'trusted' subs because I know the other subs we have been complaining about are totally taken over by bodysnatchers and bodyposeurs

Some try to fight the propaganda / echo chamber rather than let it grow.

CTR-controlled subreddits often ban anyone who says anything even slightly against Hillary. Including r/politics.

I say plenty of anti-hillary things on /r/politics, but I get downvoted a fuckton now. I don't break any rules, and if I am trying to call someone stupid, I generally use their own words against them.

But it is extremely tiresome to even try.

I don't break any rules

I was always careful to not break any rules in r/politics as well. I had heard the mods had trigger fingers and never ever called anyone a shill or anything that could even remotely be sen as breaking the rules. After maybe like a month or two of going on and on about election fraud and exit polls in the comments however, I was eventually permanently banned with a gaslighting lie in the ban notice.

That sucks. I guess I have been more lucky than I am aware.

Yep. Coming off of a 21 day ban from politics right now as it were. The first few bans were for supposedly calling out another user for being a shill (even though they obviously are biased towards HRC), but my most recent ban was for "insinuating another user is a shill". The offense is already subjective in nature, but it's insane to me that other users can't call out the users with <1 month old accounts posting exclusively pro-HRC/anti-Trump rhetoric. The politics subreddit is a joke, but I suppose I'll keep fighting the madness.

Last I heard they had 9500 people banned in the last few months. Probably well over 10k at this point.

Don't bother, /r/politics is literally an echo chamber of CTR shills pulling each other off. There's nobody else left. It's blatantly obvious to even the most casual observer.

Did you happen to see it right after Clinton fainted? It almost looked normal until CTR found the next talking point.

I like to read the enemy's spin.

Turn on the television then!

Lol. No really.

Yikes that's like watching American idol. The lights and gloss. I like to read my propaganda not watch it.

I lurk /r/all pretty heavily when I'm not looking at anything specific. Sometimes you come across fun things, but 90% of it is shit.

Theres some real discussion to be had, if you sort the articles by controversial, and maybe the comments as well. 99% seems to be shills though, so its an echo-chamber mostly.

Lol. We saw trump the Demented. You lose.

What?

Edit: Oh, nice post history...

Over the past few days this place has been a little fishy too.

I've been saying this for weeks in that subreddit and surprisingly I don't get down voted much, it isn't that the users want this, it's just mods deleting all posts that aren't anti trump or pro hillary.

A couple weeks ago, r/politics suddenly went back to normal for a few days. It was like CTR's website was down and the shills didn't know what to do with themselves without their instructions from David Brock.

Now they're back in full force. The mods obviously are being paid off. This is deception, pure and simple, and it should be illegal for political campaigns. It's false advertising on a grand scale and Reddit is more than happy to participate.

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You have no evidence that he is working for Clinton.

No evidence? Sounds like it's on its way to the front page of /r/conspiracy

yes, and this sub has officially transformed into the internet branch of the trump campaign, despite r/thedonald being so popular. it's fucking gross.

it doesn't matter who gets elected. the ball's already in play.

The SandersForPresident sub was equally popular. It's insane how bad the HRC campaign is concerning enticing former Bernie supporters. I don't know a single Bernie supporter who is now supporting Hillary since the nomination. She's just the worst fucking candidate and I don't know how her corruption and collusion have continued for so long. When is the tipping point?

Hillary was rightfully so painted as an enemy to Sanders in the primaries. You can't just switch that off.

It seemed to me that Bernie was painted as "the enemy" during the primaries. Many supporters were vocal about HRC's corruption and collusion, but her supporters weren't the ones being attacked. People were and still are seeking answers about Hillary's questionable actions and past, though the answers never come. HRC and her campaign have been on the attack since day 1.

i'm a former bernie supporter. you couldn't pay me a million dollars to support hillary, though i DO hate trump much more, so if i drink enough i MIGHT give her my vote just to not give him one more vote.

but i think i'm voting Giant Meteor this year.

Thank you. This. Absolutely this. I expect to hear more Bernie supporters say this, than the fake spin you routinely see on the politics subreddit where they all say

"I used to support Bernie, but now I'm throwing all of my support behind Hillary. I'm officially with her"

remember, you won't make ANY difference by not voting. like i said, i hope the whole fucking world burns. but i hate donald trump enough to possibly throw that bitchbag my useless vote just so he doesn't get it.

i hope they both burn. i hope it all burns. fuck this place.

Nobody in their right mind saw the DNC corruption first hand and now thinks the MSM isn't painting Donald the same way they did Bernie

Every single newspaper/celebrity/CEO and politician is forcing Hillary down our throats

I never believed in blatant US propaganda until this year

I hated Trump during the primary and though he was racist who hated all Mexicans... Because it's all I knew from the MSM

But I was skeptical and started to listening to his speeches first hand rather than hearing how the news wants me to interpret them and have already jumped ship fully from the Democratic party

Now I will vote them into the Senate but never hillary

There is no way anyone who wants any change whatsoever will support the DNC taking the executive branch

btw here's my fucking badge CTR

look at Bernies positions on trade and compare them to trump's positions on trade they are almost identical.

I was pro Bernie aswell but after hearing him talk of breaking up banks and lamenting Wal-Mart for all of the welfare paid out to their employees then watching him turn around and endorse a former Wal-Mart board member and recipient of $700,000 in speaking Fee's from Goldman Sachs really made me think he was controlled opposition from the start.

Instead of endorsing someone who's positions on trade he completely agreed with he endorsed the exact antithesis of his policies, all because DAS RAYCISIS

You're at - 4 with no one refuting your statements, I think you burned some of the delusional berniebros

Bernie was and always will be a hack fruad.

Yup I was a staunch Bernie supporter and no way in hell I would ever give my vote to Shillary, she can pry it from my cold dead hands.... I'm sure she would have no problem with that though. I don't think I've met anyone who was supporting Bernie that's now supporting Hillary, they all hate her.

All my Bernie supporting friends are voting Clinton. It's the right thing to do despite all the caterwauling on these subs against it.

Right thing to do??? Probabally the same thing lemmings think right before they all finish running off a cliff. Fuck hrc

supporting a criminal for presidency

or

the right thing to do

pick one

All my Bernie supporting friends are voting Clinton. It's the right thing to do despite all the caterwauling on these subs against it.

"Right thing to do". By which standards? I don't support HRC, but that doesn't mean I'm a Trump supporter. Neither will receive my vote.

Lol subtle

Former Bernie supporter checking in. Still hate Trump. Still hate Hillary.

Maybe because people here are pissed that this woman has gotten away with so much bullshit? This sub hates corruption.

This. You want to talk about r/politics being biased for Clinton? At least on politics you can say what you think. Over on the_donald you're banned instantly if you say anything the slightest bit they don't agree with.

it's almost like /the_donald is a pro donald trump sub and r/politics is a general politics board or something. You can get banned from r/hillaryclinton for litterally quoting Hillary Clinton... try posting about super predators there and see what happens.

really made me think.

Sure, you can say what you think on r/politics

Until you get downvoted to the point where nobody sees whatever it is you're trying to say.

dude fuck donald trump. if you don't think that guy is going to take bribes, then you should start pulling your head out of your ass now, because it's so far up there that it's gonna take til christmas for you to get it out.

yea, /r/thedonald leaks all over the place. But they don't last long around here.

Trump is a Clinton plant, after all.

I'm sure CTR plays some roll. But I'm not surprised the progressive young community of reddit would take such a one sided stand toward keeping scary Trump from becoming president. On the other hand, it's disgusting that they can turn such a blind eye to Clinton's illegal misgivings and crookedness. I'm voting 3rd party per usual, especially since I live in a state without a chance of swinging.

I think CTR has effectively shaped the narrative for lot of left-leaning people. They are still there for sure, but a lot of people are doing the shilling for free because they have bought into it pretty hard. It's sad that we can't have discourse without psychological manipulation. Notice that both Hillary and Trump have started slinging mud, name calling, just really pandering with cheap emotionally charged arguments. At least when Sanders was still viable there was a semblance of critical thinking online. It's devolved into the childish Drumpf vs Killery narrative that just completely trivializes the hardships facing so many people in this country. Sad. Really really really sad.

When your livelihood depends on ignoring certain things, youre going to ignore certain things.

Fucking /u/spez that cuck is allowing it

By none of the above I hope you mean third party...

Well that would be why all but 1 mod are new mods less than 1 year old.

/r/politics has ALWAYS been a left wing progressive sub. Sometimes they allow some diversity of opinion during the primaries, but once the general comes around they ALWAYS support the establishment Democrat and they will censor and ban anyone who successfully pushes against the narrative.

/r/politics is such a joke even reddit itself - a far left wing website owned by a family of wealthy Democrats - took /r/politics off of the default sub list because it was making the entire site look bad.

Ctr will ruin reddit. The elites are trying to claw there way into power on the internet.

I notice I'm less angry now that I unsubscribed from politics. Now only /r/atheism makes me angry, but it's the kind of angry I like.

voting libertarian this year

I just noticed that my posts aren't being displayed to others in r/poltics. I'm interested to find out when that started happening.

And two downvotes in r/conspiracy for mentioning that fact. I guess I'll have to start spreading ideas and expanding awareness with daily created throwaway accounts.

Yep, I check every comment and post now in certain subs to verify that they are showing up. I then have to periodically check later to make sure they weren't manually removed as well. It's bullshit, but it's something that we have to deal with.

Sometimes they even remove comments that have gotten a lot of traction, such as this and this. They especially hate it when you spread credible information about shilling.

Reddit is one of the best places to spread information. It's worth it to keep going even when we have to deal with bullshit like this.

/r/politics is indeed utter dross at the moment and is nothing more than Clinton good/Trump bad... but at times this sub feels like it's turned into an offshoot of /r/thedonald, time to unsub and maybe come back after your election is over and things have returned to normal.

Is it difficult to really think the 250k former Bernie sanders subscribers with no where to go didn't become part of the new 250k Trump supporters after?

Because we sure as fuck didn't join /r/HillaryClinton

Guess what? We exist

I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make and I genuinely have no dog in the fight with regards to your elections, I unsubbed from /r/politics some months ago and I've done the same with this sub. Be back for a browse whenever the elections are over and hope the content being posted has returned to some level of normalcy.

Nobody's going to that sub who isn't already drinking the kool aid. Fuck'm, let them have their circlejerk.

And what exactly are the admins allowing? Couldn't that be said about a lot of subs? I'm sure some in /r/politics wonder why they let /r/conspiracy post things that you find here.

Many of the comments in /r/politics read like bots (IMO). If true, it fits your theory.

Without knowing or looking it up, is there some kind of Reddit TOS against this? To be able to hold a popular subreddit name hostage for your own agendas?

Well what do you expect the checks from soros via the clintion foundation to be written off as charitable donations has and will continue.

Not surprised. r/pol was the Bernie hive, and ever since he lubed up and bent over for big H the rest of the dem cucks followed suit.

Throw in her dystopic legion of astro-turf squads from straight out of a William Gibson novel and there you have it.

"flopped" doesn't do it justice, comatose like HRC on 'treason day'.

All I know about this election you seppos are having is that it is so important that even the dead have decided to weigh in and show their support for Hillary Clinton.

Funny how legalization threads make the first page of /r/politics even though their explicit candidate is against it.

Isn't there a giant chasm between "bought off" and "simply allowing it"?

Politics and policy geeks (those who would be mods on r/politics) are apt to be pro Clinton, no?

That explains her own bad week where every headline was anti-Clinton. Trump has way more scandals surrounding him, and much less nuanced scandals. Especially recently. Cuba embargo. Taxes. Charity abuses. Not to mention the endless comments he makes precisely because that's how he grabs media attention. Your conspiracy sucks shit.

If they didn't allow it wouldn't someone cry out censorship anyways?

Most reddit users are in their 20s. Most ppl in their 20s have a ton of debt from student loans. What would you do when offered money for selling a little bit of your soul, for a cause you probably believe in anyway?

Word on the street that the going rate for a mod is $28,000. An awful lot of us would take the money quietly and turn the other cheek.

Same for any "old trusted" accounts they were rumored to be buying. I think most students/people just starting their career will take the money.

So just a little bit of my soul?

all that really has to be done to regain control of the people is control the Internet. with it we were strong and united. now we have missed our chance, and our children will become slaves.

everything I post on /r/politics gets removed

or downvoted by CTR (just like here..............)

You should read the submission guidelines before posting articles to it, I can see from your history that most of your submissions have heavily editorialized titles which is against one of the rules.

its hard to follow rules :/

Then don't complain about having stuff removed.

statements are not complaints...just sayin'

The same happened when Ron Paul ran in 2008. Liberals are really really against Trump. Can you blame them?

edit: Sensationalist embellishments run both ways. You people see only what you want to see.

It seems like more than liberals are against Trump.

IMHO, as long they have a different model number, that's all that's necessary. This really peaked my interest, cause I hadn't thought about it much. But if you're buying a big ticket item like a TV, I'd stay away from Walmart. This would be especially important if you're buying oil for your car. The oil might not be as good. Tires might wear out faster, engine might wear out faster. I looked at the oil packaging today as Walmart, and some of the gallon sizes are special packaged for Walmart. IMHO, I'd recommend being very careful what you're buying at Walmart, especially if it something as critical as oil or tires. There has to be some reason you can get an oil change so much cheaper at Walmart.

ITT: people that support a corrupt government and think the government is capable of fixing itself.

No, Bernie wasnt going to do jack shit and your support of him was a waste of time. Same with Ron Paul, Johnson, Stein,Trump, Obama, Romney, Clinton.

Wow you're right, I guess we better just do nothing then and sit by as our mafia-run banana republic goes down in flames

Thats my plan! So far, so good.

This sub has turned into the crazy Clinton conspiracy crew.

Inarguably.

But is it warranted? This sub has always been about conspiracies, why would we not focus on one of the most controversial politicians ever?

Conspiracies are fine. But I just wish the ones talked about here weren't all directed at Clinton.

She's got her problems, that's for sure. But it often feels like beating a dead horse.

Y'all realize that if you go in their up vote the stuff you want then it would be what you want and most of what they're reporting is truth they're just leaving out other parts

Edit: if you explain how Reddit works you get downvoted christ

No. These are paid shills that's sole purpose is promote their own propaganda while surprrssing their oppositions.

if you are not voting against trump, then you are a part of the problem.

And you are totally right; this isn't a blue vs red thing, it's just common sense & common decency .

Who really cares?

Just don't follow r/politics.

Ever stop to think Hillary is just more popular or is literally everything a censoring conspiracy?

If you're voting third party in protest, follow up with local government and work year round to make changes. You aren't accomplishing anything by whining once every four years and trashing your vote.

It seemed to me that Bernie was painted as "the enemy" during the primaries. Many supporters were vocal about HRC's corruption and collusion, but her supporters weren't the ones being attacked. People were and still are seeking answers about Hillary's questionable actions and past, though the answers never come. HRC and her campaign have been on the attack since day 1.

No. These are paid shills that's sole purpose is promote their own propaganda while surprrssing their oppositions.

Conspiracies are fine. But I just wish the ones talked about here weren't all directed at Clinton.

She's got her problems, that's for sure. But it often feels like beating a dead horse.

Is it difficult to really think the 250k former Bernie sanders subscribers with no where to go didn't become part of the new 250k Trump supporters after?

Because we sure as fuck didn't join /r/HillaryClinton

Guess what? We exist

I could deal with the posts for a while, but today when every single post that hit the front page was against Pence and for Kaine, I unsubscribed. I like to read all kinds of different views but that sub only has one to give.

Politics is way more rabidly anti trump than pro Clinton.

We don't. Have you not noticed, it's all anti-Trump and in case you haven't noticed, it seems like it is well deserved hate for Trump.

Clinton is just the guy by default. But on the scale of evil from hitler being -10 and Lincoln being +10, clinton is at least on the positive side of the scale. Trump is well into the negatives.