so, what are the chances Hitler actually wasn't a bad guy and WW2 was entirely over the same FED/World Bank issues of today?

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ive seen quite a lot to indicate that the reason ww2 actually happened could possibly be the banking system itself (in addition to an emerging Zionist group that actually WAS emerging at the time historically, which even british papers in English account for at the time)

I find it extremely likely. in our current situation, I imagine if a president ever executive ordered the FED away -- the rest of the world would immediately deem us a irreconcilable threat, even if we staunchly didn't want war.

they cant let a state that creates its own bank exist, especially a functional one that hands power to majority citizens. any society like that would be financial warfare against all the other tyrannical states, and would dissolve them over time as people noticed how much better the other way works for everyone.

think about it, the german mark was worth nothing under their democratic government -- because democratic governments in todays age pander, they have to please the people who got them in power and thus, not the majority citizen, but the banks.

I don't really know the history 100% of their banking at the time, but I'm almost certain the first prime targets of hitler were the banking cartels, and that's who he got the economy powerful enough to build such a war machine with technological marvels from a point where the average citizen burnt dollars for heat and couldn't afford bread.

what happened in Nazi Germany is exactly what I expect to happen to an America that leaves the fed and abolishes national/international banking by constitutional amendment.

there are plenty of justifications of why hitler ran his first few offensives (Poland, Rhineland, etc.) because germans lived there and were not being treated right.

I am a jew by heredity btw, so me saying maybe hitler was right might mean something.

I mean fuck. look at this shit. if you look at his speeches and publications, when referring to the jews, he was mainly referring to an actual, existing political cabal/pseudo-Marxist group, who view the bibles prophecy of ruling the world as literal -- with people like soros believing they are the messiah -- too bad they let that prick live and didn't execute him too. if the Nazis killed soros, then maybe they would have even saved the world more than once lol.

what do you do in a society rife with brainwashing, and a supremely corrupt system that serves to line the pockets and grant power to those who install it, at the cost of nobody else having power?

you have to create a proto-fascist regime, capable of quickly removing/exterminating pro-brainwashing groups (in the US, this would be probably most SJWs, some social minorities who are resistant to reeducation, almost all economically powerful individuals involved in gov't and all their shills)

these people will fight to reintroduce the old, unfair system because they want to be at the top, or because they are just plain brainwashed into it and its sad.

so what he did was entirely justifiable, and even possibly the right thing to do entirely too.

if I'm not wrong, he wasn't immediately exterminating jews -- and some of his gov't was controlled by western bankers who might've wanted him to look bad at the end, so I'm not sure if the gas chambers and stuff were built late-game just to get a reason to make people not believe this shit.

or an alternate possibility is that, as he tried to eliminate the powerful cabal working towards Israel, he ran up against strong opposition among the jews when they began to unite against him and his national socialist banking system worldwide.

of course, they were not being peaceable. they were not trying to ask for higher status in life even. they wanted the entire old banking system that was starving people to death back.

so if that's true, they all deserved to die. if its true my ancestors were pricks and enablers of tyranny, and I'm glad some of them died back then.

I'm just pretty concerned its the banking system itself that is the true hidden cause of ww2,

think of what they say since then -- nationalism is evil and causes war -- caring about your region in specific and what is fair to it, causes war because NOTHING CAN BE FAIR. (nationalism is GREAT)

Hitler wanted war and started the war -- he didn't. this is clear and evident in history.

the international economy was implemented when really? after ww1. WW1 was probably a bid against any nation who opposed unfair international banking schemes which were to be forcibly installed on the losers.

Germany, having fought the hardest and lasting the longest with the best reasons for not doing it that made sense to people, obviously had to be punished by the other international tyrants who were abusing fake banking systems for power.

so they saddled Germany with all the worlds debt at the time, to make it seem as if the international system worked fine for those states whom agreed peaceably (only germans knew they were slaves, it was hidden from the rest that early on)

obviously, go listen to some of hitlers speeches. he does sound scarily similar alt-right, just with a bent against the jews. and scarily enough, I believe him in what ive seen. I can see why people agreed with him and followed him to the ends of the earth.

he offered them an out of the banking system. an out with unfairness that was foisted upon them at Versailles, which they fought so hard against.

people were dying. starving. sick. homeless. it was a nightmare and something had to be done.

looking at it this way, makes the beerhall putsch make way more sense -- they tell us he was not popular in Germany at that time, but had enough support to launch an almost successful revolution? no way that statement can be true!!!

the US also got into the war late, id assume it was because of our system. originally the US was pro-Germany in both wars. but the banksters flipped the story with their media machine halfway through once they realized they too were under fire, not just stalin.

its curious why the jews hated stalin too, he helped them a lot and it was even them who birthed the ideals which formed communism. I theorize its because somehow, the leaders of the SU weren't the jews-- and the jewish version of communism does not believe in true equality on race, whereas even if stalin was a brutal evil man, he did. he would not have handed the party over to one group of powerful jews at his own expense -- therefore it was not a biblical prophesied government of the jews.

it really scares me that we are facing a similar thing here today, as debts rise for all nations and the endgame of the system installed way back when is coming to get us.

now its failing by design and all nations seem to be falling into the chains of slavery, I'm almost certain any nation that does the right thing, and tries to back out, will be framed for crimes against humanity and nuked off the face of the earth immediately.

if I'm right on this -- if the jews then were involved in banking (which they were) and hitler's prime original goal was to kick out these early FED/IMF type systems that were fucking the german people after Versailles,

then obviously this was the real cause of the war. and obviously everyone else was on the wrong side.

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Hitler killed a fifth of my people. They weren't bankers.

Who are your people?

Lots of people died in WW2

Poles.

Poles killed and mutilated Germans, Hitler defended the German minority in Poland. youre people got what they asked for.

Are you a German?

Would you consider that hitler is controlled by the same group of zionists that controlled the allies and he is simply an agent facillitating for the collapse of Germany?

Same for Mussolini and Japan, Mussolini and Imperial Japan might very likely be just a collapse facilitator like hitler.

Anyway the zionists in the 10s, 20s and 30s very likely targeted these 3 countries for collapse and castration, and before the illuminati/zionists collapse countries, they import radical ideologies and have people believe in them. In fact after the war these 3 countries were all castrated and subject to zionist rule.

Havaara agreement. Dude supported the settpement of Israel.

they weren't controlled, it was a populist uprising that spiralled out of control. the war is better understood as a war between some industrialists and the zionist banking cartel.

Fake some serious war crimes after the war, torture prisoners to make them 'admit' whatever you tell them to admit, make it illegal to question these 'war crimes'

Think about it, if a Western country today finally snapped and decided to purge its ruling class - the politicians, the bankers, the media - couldn't it potentially be represented as anti-Semitic purely due to the disproportionate presence of Jews in these industries? How do you think the ADL and so forth would interpret such an act? They'd probably "declare war" on the regime in question, just like various Jewish community leaders did on the Nazi regime in 1933

And jewry urging us sanctions against japan to create a conflict between usa and japan and thus bring usa into a European war (against the wrong enemy), it's important to remember that sanctions and blockades are more deadly than atomic bombs. The British blockade during ww1 caused 1 mil german deaths from starvation including at leat 100k after the 1918 armistice

Btw morgenthau sought to decimate germanys population by 1/2 after ww2, and his progenies associates were involved in the cover up of 911

WWII was an American business venture. Ford tanks were used to kill American troops.

Henry Ford is an interesting source. He invested a lot of ressources into researching the very same concerns that Hitler had.

I think it would be terrible naive to dismiss everything Ford wrote, on the basis of it being antisemitic. That's so troubling that people don't realise how conditioned they are to immediately dismiss everything that jewish media labels antisemitic...

Ever wonder why the jew-owned media pushes islamaphobia on us all so heavily but oh-my-goodness you are in deep, deep shit if you are labeled anti-semantic, for shame you shall be exiled.

Eugenics doesn't sound too bad right about now. The ability to mathematically analyze genetic inheritance should work wonders for humans as a species. Unfortunately, I'm racist for saying that.

Which group of people ran the US banking system then?

The same people who do now, the jews

Namely the Rothchild family.

You need to check out the 6 hr documentary "The Greatest Story Never Told" on Youtube....

THis.

Read mein Kampf, you'll notice the similarities between our current age and then very quickly

Hitler was a very smart man who saw things quite clearly, but that's also why he became such a raging anti-Semitic because at the top you usually had Jews leading these efforts

because at the top you usually had Jews leading these efforts

That's why the federal reserve bankers liked Big H so much, he was racist and divisive.

Divide and conquer. We can't get together and figure out who's really fucking us in the ass when we're too busy fighting amongst each other.

Race. Religion. Class. Political Affiliation. Sex. You name it. The masters of mankind love it when people adopt separationist ideas rather than figuring out we're in this together.

Goddamn you nailed it.

Race doesn't matter? The things you named are highly heritable (with the acceptance of race and sex). Race does matter.

Where can you get that book, unaltered?

I have a link. https://media.8ch.net/pdfs/src/1415736413599-1.pdf It is an unaltered edition to the book.

Id like to point out that the time of Ww1 the 4 longest ruling family in the world were Japan, UK, Ottoman, and Russian. At the end of ww1 only uk was 2 left. Ottomans were crushed and so were the russians. Also side note ww1 germany russia and uk were all cousins from the same royal family.

Pretty good chance, but you'll never know it because the Jew-run media and publishing industries will continue to bury the information forever.

I am a jew by heredity btw, so me saying maybe hitler was right might mean something.

You surprise me. Jews are usually so close-minded and lock-stepping on the topics of Hitler, the Nazis and the so-called "Holocaust" that there is no talking to them in any rational way.

not all of them. it's like leaving Scientology though. to question the holocaust is going to get you cast out and vilified.

I was already cast out and vilified, even this date I'm about to have is probably pointless being an exile lmao. .

but its who I am and always will be rebel to the core

Some actually step back and take an objective view of history. Official stories, as we all know, are written to provide a benefit and are notoriously false to some degree if not completely.

I had a Jewish friend when I was in high school. They observed all the traditions except one, and that was playing the victim. His family believed that the Holocaust happened, but not nearly to the degree as is told in the History books written well after WWII.

He was a cunt. No doubt about it. For a guy that "didnt like the fed" his financiers sure relied on wallstreet a lot. Hitler was an awful human being. The end.

I have found no evidence that Hitler was evil, it was mostly propaganda, similar to what is used against Assas right now

Yeah that Holocaust is really tough to find information on. Comparing Hitler to Assad is apples and hand grenades.

You need to do more research and stop speaking from opinion.

How, when nothing i have stated was opinionative?

Please provide evidence.

http://auschwitz.org/en/gallery/historical-pictures-and-documents/archive-documents,2.html

Contains prisoner records, punishment records and even a log of transferring prisoners to administer zyklon b. You fucking cunt.

Your response to the evidence?

I did...why haven't you responded to it???

Nazis were evil! End of story!

A state sponsored genocide is evil. As is totalitarian fascism. The fact that they were evil doesnt negate the scope of moral relativism that can be used to analyze their history. They may be just as, less than or more evil than another subject but that doesn't negate their own evils.

There's always someone who is more of a dick than you for instance, that doesn't mean you cant be one yourself.

A lot of the american propaganda leading up to ww2 was pro Hitler, mind you. That was exposed for being less than valid. How do you explain that?

Lets focus on the important issue rather than the details. What state sponsored genocide? Have you genuinely done research on this topic or do you speak from a moral high ground where you believe to know something without a shadow of doubt yet are completely oblivious to the fact that you've been indoctrinated for decades?

I have done research. It is irrefutable. Wha evidence do yo uhave disprovng it?

Link me to it! I have no evidence disproving it, I just find a lack of evidence proving it. I am genuinely interested in the truth however (you may doubt that, it's fine I don't care). A lot of things I have read and dug up here and there have led me to believe that skepticism is justified (Several accounts of post-war atrocity propaganda being disproven by even jewish mainstream historians, figures of death tolls being corrected lower and lower by mainstream historians, many cases of eyewitness accounts reporting absurdities which were later confirmed to have been made up, deceitful mistranslation of german documents during the Nuremberg trials, and cases of torture during the trials leading to confessions of camps that didn't exist, etc.)

I'm genuinely interested in what irrefutable proof you have, because many people much much smarter and educated than me have searched for it all their lifes and didn't find it.

Start by meeting a survivor of the camps in person. Very easy to do, takes effort but if you really want the truth than there it is.

I did. I know one. He said he only knows from gas chambers due to stories and rumors, says he never saw any.

So uh... irrefutable evidence dismantled?

Right so how about the countless other eye witnesses? And the document i sent you?

Whay is their name? How do you know them? How did you meet? Which camp did they stay in?

Whu haven't you answered my questions?

You cant even use the word dismantled correctly in a sentence.

So uh, irrefutable evidence dismantled and ad hominem plan b initiated?

How was ky evidence dismantled when you faoeld to address all of it? By ognorong a component of it you have failed to even deconstruct and analyze the argument. Tae this comment to your intro to rhetoric class and asm a professor how valid you argument is.

I thought your irrefutable evidence consists of talking to a survivor? I'm sorry if I got that wrong. What else does your irrefutable evidence consist of?

Dear god you dont even take the time to read comments fuck off cunt troll, tomes like this im happy i get laid

You can't even use 'times' properly in a sentence.

Cunt. Just. Cunt.

You are really good at debating mate!

What proof do you have that you are not a cunt? Arent you skeptical that you may be?

Now your 16-year-old neuroplasticity is showing. Do the research, then come back. You'll be surprised by how little you actually know.

LOL

You were pretty confident about your irrefutable proof, for someone who hasn't even done the research.

DUDE THERE IS ANFUCKING MUSEUM WITH THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS. THERE ARE COUNTLESS HOURS OF FOOTAGE. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF TESTMONIES FROM VICTIMS. THERE IS TESTIMONY FROM GUARDS AND OTHER CAMO EMPLOYEES. THERE ARE RECORDS OF PRISONERS.

YOU ARE A CUNT AS THE DAY IS LONG.

Okay, sure bud

Who is Rudolph Höss?

A victim of torture. We need to stop this mate, I can't come back here a million times to school you every time you find something on google. Take the time to do the research. Just like I'll take the time to find out what historians say about the credibility of the Wannsee protocols.

What evidence do you have he was tortured? Please cite 5 historical criticisms of the protocols legitimacy.

Why do I have to spoonfeed you? Look it up yourself, it's fairly surface level stuff and common knowledge among anyone who has spent some time on the topic.

Hahahahaha dude spoonfed? You cant even cite any of your arguments.

In a court of law if your argument depending on one oiece of hear-say evidence than how do you think it would fair?

You can't even use piece properly in a sentence, you all-caps rage like a turbonerd, you call me names during an argument, and here you are talking about courts of law. You are pretty hopeless.

Says the man who cant defend his own argument.

What does that have to do with actual physical evidence of genocide?

You've never heard of a primary source? Are you bereft of intellect?

Would my grandfather's tattooed Camp serial number, and his stories do? And he wasn't remotely Jewish. Or was he also a shill that was paid off as he was beaten to an inch of his life time and again, and who left numerous friends dead there?

Yes! Did he speak of gas chambers? I don't doubt for a minute that conditions in the camps must have been horrible and inhumane.

He was, luckily, in a holding camp, so he got out eventually, to be released into slavery in Bavaria (which in itself is an entertaining story). But from his experiences in the comparatively benign holding camp, I have little trouble imagining what Birkenau might have been like. Additionally, there are just too many primary sources to dismiss. I think history has it exactly right - together with his industrialists, Hitler was exactly the overmind of the variety that are held by many to be accountable for many trends today. Except he did his business very much in the open.

https://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/nuremberg/documents/index.php?documentid=C194-3-9&pagenumber=6

Translation of the final solution legislation. You've never read that? No one you know has? In all their lives? Did they ever learn to read?

Can the Wannsee protocols be verified to have existed before the trials?

I don't know, I'll have to do some digging. Generally I'm skeptical to everything surrounding the Nuremberg trials however, because germans were tortured brutally and evidence/counterevidence not treated justly by the court. This is aknowledged even by mainstream historians nowadays.

With documents like this, everything depends on verifying their credibility. I suspect that he documents are heavily guarded and protected by gatekeeper-historians, but I'll find out what the deal is with them.

Wooof dude just woof.

The minutes from the Wannasee conference were debunked.

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1647

I have many family members who are survivors of the Holocaust, and many more who died in the camps. This may mean nothing to you, but I'm very confident my little Grandmother is not part of some massive 'Zionist' conspiracy. But don't just take my word for it - there are myriad reports from Holocaust survivors on the web. Afraid of doctored evidence on the internet? Go see the evidence in person at the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. I don't know anyone who wasn't powerfully affected by what they saw there. Lots of primary sources, physical evidence, and interviews with survivors stored there. Finally, I'll leave you with this quote from President Dwight D. Eisenhower: ". . .the most interesting—although horrible—sight that I encountered during the trip was a visit to a German internment camp near Gotha. The things I saw beggar description. While I was touring the camp I encountered three men who had been inmates and by one ruse or another had made their escape. I interviewed them through an interpreter. The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where they were piled up twenty or thirty naked men, killed by starvation, George Patton would not even enter. He said that he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in a position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to “propaganda.”" (https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10006131) I think, given Ike's farewell address (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU) it is pretty hard to argue he was part of any huge corporation/banking based conspiracy, because is he was, why would he have been allowed to expose these transgressions to the world?

All of that is fair, and I'm well aware of the overwhelming amount of well documented evidence to the atrocities. The revisionist argument however is only about deliberate murder.

You're not interested in the truth at all. You're really bad at thinking.

Seriously lets focus on the issues. If you want to debate the state sponsorship of the final splutioj by the third reich I will leave you woth you cocked tucked between yor legs too ashamed to even respond.

I'm not ashamed of being proven wrong, I'm interested in the truth. I wish I could shake off these ideas and beliefs, because they are dangerous, alienating and burdensome in day to day life. I do however enjoy the detective work of trying to piece together a puzzle and evaluating the credibility of sources. There's a ton of material on either sounds of the argument with which to work with.

But I won't debate someone who obviously is pretty heavily emotionally invested in his high horse of moral superiority. I don't think you have been exposed to the 'counterarguments', however I have been exposed to the pro-arguments all my life. So it be an unfair debate anyway.

I agree. I'm curious about true history and skeptical of everything we've been told, but I was just watching a documentary the other day about Poland and Hitler completely demolished Warsaw, total devastation of a generation, hard to square that with him being a knight in shining armor fighting against the Jew World Order. Not sure what was going on in WW2

I suggest readin about the differences between Judaism and zionism. Judaism isnt fair to blame for zionism, stop buying into false dichomies. Judaism is fine, people are the ones that corrupt it.

All wars are bankers wars. Watch it. Now.

Exactly my thoughts. Nothing is black and white only. People who want to make you believe this are very likely liars/manipulators.

Look at Digital Currencies for a peaceful(?) way out of the inevitable collapse.

Edit: also take into account, that any "liberation movement" loses its ideals over time (=natural/societal process). Hence it becomes, what it tried to fight earlier.

I can't read all of each of these posts (they are long). But I'll give you my synopsis of what I believe to have happened:

Pre 1900 Switzerland - ~1500 Switzerland is the Political Police for all Kings Queens throughout Europe, and today the Pope. 1349, Jan 9th, Roman Day of "New Beginnings", Basel Massacre, or pre-Holocaust (fake Jew homes to lure in Jews to be burned, originates in Switzerland).

1850 - 1900 Switzerland - Develops radical new political system, Direct Democracy, empowering every Citizen similar to a Senator via Caucus voting. The Presidency is a council of 7, to prevent political assassination and corruption. Media becomes heavily controlled by the Gov as "dividing a nation against itself" is seen as the greatest threat to sovereignty.

1890 Switzerland - Develops the largest network of electronic communication, and is the first country to connect every single citizen via a wire (as opposed to horse and pigeon). Develops the most prolific news organization in the world, printing headlines in 4 languages : French, Germany, Italian, & Romansh.

1915 WW1 - Swiss / Italy / France attack and defeat Germany.

1940 WW2 - Swiss / Italy / France / Germany attack and lose to US / Russia / UK.

1960 Cold-War - Massive political assassination within the US, 'money changers' take control, diverting power to Switzerland.

End.

The real enemy of ww2 was judeobolsheviks russia, ever wonder why Britain chose to declare war on germany instead of russia after the invasion of Poland, what russia with its vast land mass and resources, dangerous ideology, mass murder...

They were just good at getting their people in power and controlling the press. Churchill wrote a book like Mein Kampf before Hitler about the (((Russian revolution))) but he was broke as a joke and they bought him off. No wonder he drank so much.

Fuck the zionists, hang them all

r/askhistorians

You may need to word your question and specific points differently, but they have vast knowledge

You guys are nuts... but I still enjoy reading this stuff. Keep the ideas flowing.

Referring someone to a sub with historical knowledge is nuts?

I was just banned for asking a question. The question was very fairly and genuinely worded, I got banned on the basis of my posting history alone. So yeah... the censorship machinery is working just fine.

The only argument against truth, is not to address it at all, and to dismiss it as hateful libel.

Just wondering, what was your question?

I asked a Hitler question and wasn't banned.

Understand that the sub is not a university classroom, but that you should conduct yourself as if it is.

I've considered this, but there is evidence of hitler being a jerk in his own right. So he could have been fighting international bankers AND been a jerk both at the same time.

As a modern day comparison, I would look at China. The international bankers might have a reason to force a war between the US and China right now, but that doesn't make China the good guy. It will be two bad guys fighting each other.

This is how I feel. Hitler isn't the mustache-twirling villian that 7th grade world history leads us to believe. There was a lot of tension going on in the world about and he was the spark it took to ignight a world wide war. He's definitely at fault for a lot of horrific things, but he's not solely at fault.

The best understanding I've found is Hitler was chosen and groomed from a very early age to do what he did. It's believable that the rich elite who sold and dealt with both sides, fueling the war, stripping resources out of the land and away from people's hands, are the same group that groomed Hitler, and gave him what he needed to succeed as far as he did. I personally think that Hitler was like any other leader, when he become unmanageable by certain means of control, they killed him.

Jews have always been the symbolic scape goat- azazel, cast out into the desert. And zionism presents the perfect managed conflict with the islamic world.

hitler didn't do anything good for anyone, except bring the rest of the world together with his defeat. he was an iconic personality cult in a time of struggle for the world, and germany in particular. he, like many, used jews as the personification of the financial industry and focused the ire and energy of his people on that to help accomplish his goals.

when shit gets bad, people get angry and it's easy to divide and conquer by presenting an identifiable group to take the blame.

he, like many, used jews as the personification of the financial industry

Weren't the Jews boycotting Germany at the time and causing economic hardship for Germans?

according to henry ford they were causing economic hardship for a lot of people. you'll also find jews heavily involved in bolshevism. but that doesn't mean they weren't a scapegoat.

the schiffs sponsored the japaanese in russojap war to weaken russia then sponsored the judeobolsheviks in russia, who in their own right went on to commit tremendous atrocities (and should have been the enemy in ww2, and also contributed to the rise of understandably suspicious, antisemitic regimes)

might also have something to do with the ongoing zionist takeover of eastern europe and the great depression

I think he was maniacal, a bad guy and the perfect patsy. He was financed by people who allowed him to believe and act upon his twisted dreams. Then when the time was right, he took the fall while they profited.

Freedom sure is a twisted dream. Not being a slave to international banking cartels sure is a twisted perverse maniacal dream.

Yeah and all to acquire bobbles that stay in the sand box when we get called home for dinner

I don't know what that means.

It means for all the endeavors, thirty years of mortgage payments for example, in the end none of it is really ours. It's closer to the truth that we are the curators of all we pay for and when we pass it's for someone else alive to enjoy.

its curious why the jews hated stalin too,

The very early top Bolsheviks were largely Jews and Stalin was a paranoid guy who preemptively killed a lot of people who might have a chance of one day opposing him and this meant that he killed a lot of Jews. Putin for example kicked out some particular Jewish "oligarchs" for gobbling up insane amounts of wealth when the USSR collapsed. These elite Jews ran to London and the West where many elite Jews congregate and and they were given an audience for use as propaganda points against Russia towards the end of what we are seeing happen now. There is a place neighboring Russia called the state of Ukraine and the region of Ukraine (The Borderlands) where Jews get to run absolutely amok slurping up all wealth. Russia is now a place where Jews can only be extremely powerful but not Rothschild level powerful. This rubs these few elite Jews the wrong way and so they conspire against Russia.

You are absolutely right op. Obviously good/bad is a gross oversimplification (which should make all the bluepilled mainstream believers that can only explain nazi atrocities with 'well they were evil!' skeptical, yet it doesn't) but within the context of what you can find and attribute to credible sources... Hitler would most certainly have to be considered the good guy. And it's becoming ever more clear to everyone.

Hitler was a bad guy, but this world is also controlled by even more evil people that funded Hitler and that Hitler himself worked under/for.

Everything is a rich man's trick.

I love how this questions presumes a puppet furthering a war waged by central bankers wouldn't be a bad guy

See the Documentary "Hitler's War? What the Historians neglect to mention" You will see Hitler wasnt a puppet of the bankers, he kicked them out of Germany and did everything he could to have peace for his people and provide poor Germans(as he had been homeless) with all the rights and luxuries a rich German had. A Volksgemeinschaft (folk community)

Hitler was 1/4 Rothschild Jew and Grandfather Bush financed him, so there's that

Citation needed that he's a jew.

Just google 'hitler rothschild' and you will find plenty of reports

You provide the source. You made the claim

This isn't debate class, I can't help you if you're too lazy to google

I don't think you understand how burden of proof works.

Like I said this isn't debate class. I'm sorry you don't know how to google

I know how. You made the claim. Present evidence. That simple.

I don't know how long you've been on the internet but that's not how this works. I told you what to google and you can find it yourself.

Thats Jewish disinformation. Hitler was Germanic, even before Hitler was born there was a yearning among Germans for a restoration of the ancient Germanic folk religion. Hitler grew up reveling in it.

How did you even find a 24 year old post to respond to lol. There's a lot of things that I could respond you with, but first of all it's been absolutely proven without a doubt, that Prescott Bush funded Hitler. Congress even penalized him or something to that end, you can look it up and verify it for yourself or believe in lies

24 DAYS and its called the search reddit bar.. There was a relationship between Prescott Bush and Fritz Thyssen and a relationship between Thyssen and the National Socialist Party. But there was no relationship between Bush and the NS Party.

https://justice4germans.wordpress.com/2012/10/13/hitler-was-a-jew-a-rothschild-really/

That one link can be debated endlessly whether he knew he was indirectly funding Hitler or not, but in his position if he wanted to fund Hitler that would pretty much be the best way to go about it. Regardless, it's absolutely true that Prescott Bush financed Hitler, perhaps indirectly, knowingly or unknowingly, but it is true. It's not "Jewish disinformation"

BTW, why the fuck would the Jews WANT anyone to think that Hitler was a Jew? That doesn't make any sense at all, as beleif in that would only be detrimental to what the Jews want as at the very least makes them look even more conniving. Anyways, there's a plethora of other things that show a connection, when I have time I'll dig up my sources; way too busy right now and tired as indicated by the obvious mistake of putting days instead of years, days must feel like years to me right now...

Also, the link you gave me is pretty much dead, the audio that supposedly disproves the links does not work, and the picture does not work either. You should verify your sources instead of believing the summary, so yea try again

Yea the fact that it took you 6 minutes to respond with that and how you didn't post that first, there's absolutely no way you read that yourself. So no way in hell am I reading that right now

Also you didn't respond to what I said about Bush or Jewish disinformation. Stop being so impulsive and low energy

Its the link from the original article. It addresses the jewish accusation. There is no link between Bush and the NS party. None.No way in hell youre reading it.. Cool, keep believing disinformation

The link in the original article does not work. If it addresses the jewish accusation then why not tell me what it is in your words/understanding, instead of just linking to a giant essay. If you really care about fighting disinformation you wouldn't post with just a link and no other words; what a halfassed effort. I don't know why you're going back on your own words, but as you already said yourself Bush indirectly helped fund the NS party, so much so that his account was frozen by the US government under some helping enemies act. It's true and you accepted that yourself; as I said he maybe did it with no knowledge that Thyssen was linked to the NS party but there is a definite proven link between Bush and the NS party.

Anyways, I don't even think that the ideology behind the NS party is inherently bad, but like it or not what Hitler (perhaps indirectly/unknowingly) did, helped the creation of Israel and allowed Zionists to have a collective Jewish voice that they can subvert/brainwash for their own interests. Nationalism is great but gassing/killing/evicting/etc all those Jews (which according to sources that is too difficult to find right now, weren't even real Jews and were part of a thirteenth tribe) only furthered the interests of Zionism.

I'm able to actually explain what I know, if you really think what you believe is not disinformation you would be able to do the same. But to say "There is no link between Bush and the NS party" is complete and utter disinformation. Don't bother responding with such low effort replies, if you're not gonna put in effort then neither am I, especially since you're the one who restarted this conversation by chosing to respond to such an old post; stop wasting my time

I linked the link from the original article because you mentioned it didnt work.. LOL Use some common sense.

I didnt see any reason to add anything more because I assumed you were a smart guy and could figure it out; but I guess, I may be wrong about that.

You are so intent on linking Prescott Bush with Hitler like that is irrefutable proof that Hitler was a Rothschild puppet lol. Its an absurd accusation.

The Balfour declaration was declared when Hitler was doging bullets in a foxhole, fighting for his fatherland. He didnt care where the jews went he only wanted them out of Germany and he was able to negotiate the transfer agreement, yes. Those Gassings/killings of Jews that advanced zionism.... Well there is zero proof of any genocidal gas chambers.. NONE.

I might be giving you low effort replies but I honestly dont care if I awaken you at all. I am just giving another side to your idiotic accusation.

You fail at reading comprehension pretty hard. The link from the original article does not work for me, what does that have to do with common sense? Figure out that I should read a giant essay? I repeatedly said that it's possible that Bush didn't know he was helping fund Hitler, as in it may have been an inadvertent accident, unintentional, etc. The population of Jews shot up rapidly due to the second world war. I know there's no proof, that's why I added those slashes to get my point across since I wasn't sure what you believed in, the point being that he one way or another made Jews leave. They advanced Zionism, and again perhaps Hitler didn't realize that it would do that and it may have been unintentional (again I'm repeating myself here). Go back to school or get some sort of help and learn to read

This is worse than low effort, this just low iq. For you to think that I'm somehow showing "irrefutable proof that Hitler was a Rothschild puppet" is itself laughably absurd. I hope you don't support Trump because you're giving the rest of us supporters a bad name. Low energy as fuck

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Ah, and here is the "stormfront" insertion into this thread, by a throwaway account no less, to create the excuse needed to cry anti-Semitism. It always happens. People screaming r/conspiracy is anti-Semitic in 5...4...3...2...1

I never blamed the jews as a small people, and the extermination was horrific, I'm only questioning whether globalist controlled shills operated most of the horrors of the holocaust for research purposes (dr. mendel, etc) and illegal no human rights studies on manipulation, mind control, etc.

I think a lot of this may not have been known to hitler and may have been run by those agencies who backed him within the US and possibly also backed the soviet union.

from what Ive seen, hitlers political agenda for the people seemed to have been anti-protoglobalism because globalism is strongly related to the original Zionism as it was arising at the time (which actually, caused most of the aggression towards Germany thru sanctions, etc, and pressured the war). by this I mean that its interests were in having a national bank controlled by the populace with no interest. self determination in economy, and the ability to compete with global monopolies and innovate. basically the opposite worldview of the controlled development of the west through banking dynasties and elite bloodlines

I KNOW all sides were co opted and funded by the same people. its the root of the history I'm interested in. what really happened and how it relates to modern day affairs.

if the world wars were actually truly fought over the system of banking which was permissible to the populace, and the idea of who controlled industry and society, then the foe of the final great war for humanity, the last war, can be deciphered.

and the cause of war itself can then be eliminated -- tyranny itself.

"Dr. Mendel?" At least read a few more books before coming up with this nonsense. You can't even get the names right. The fact alone that you call it "ww2" shows you've studied little beyond a few articles.

The stories about Mendel are bullshit.

LOL ONLY BECAUSE MENDEL ISN'T EVEN HIS NAME

Can you find me one source referring to "Dr. Mendel" hahahaha

Ugh I was thinking of Mendel as in the discoverer of the gene.

I meant Mengele.

Youre a moron

Great retort.

Better than the one you gave to the evidence i supplied that you asked for. Why didnt you respond to that?

Look you intellectual midget. If you dismiss the content of a post, on the basis of it being posted on Stormfront, you are doing the exact same thing that a racist does, when he dismisses the comment a black person makes, on the basis of him/her being black (without consideration of the content of his comment).

Realize your dumb hypocrisy!! Because I'm so fucking sick of it.

Look Shit fer Brains, I've seen it a million times in this sub over the years. When ever Stormfront material, good or bad, conveniently shows shows up in a Jew related thread, it gets used as "proof" that r/conspiracy is racist. Realize your limited mental capacity or try harder to figure it out.

What...

Which group of people ran the US banking system then?

Henry Ford is an interesting source. He invested a lot of ressources into researching the very same concerns that Hitler had.

I think it would be terrible naive to dismiss everything Ford wrote, on the basis of it being antisemitic. That's so troubling that people don't realise how conditioned they are to immediately dismiss everything that jewish media labels antisemitic...

What...

All of that is fair, and I'm well aware of the overwhelming amount of well documented evidence to the atrocities. The revisionist argument however is only about deliberate murder.

That one link can be debated endlessly whether he knew he was indirectly funding Hitler or not, but in his position if he wanted to fund Hitler that would pretty much be the best way to go about it. Regardless, it's absolutely true that Prescott Bush financed Hitler, perhaps indirectly, knowingly or unknowingly, but it is true. It's not "Jewish disinformation"

BTW, why the fuck would the Jews WANT anyone to think that Hitler was a Jew? That doesn't make any sense at all, as beleif in that would only be detrimental to what the Jews want as at the very least makes them look even more conniving. Anyways, there's a plethora of other things that show a connection, when I have time I'll dig up my sources; way too busy right now and tired as indicated by the obvious mistake of putting days instead of years, days must feel like years to me right now...

Also, the link you gave me is pretty much dead, the audio that supposedly disproves the links does not work, and the picture does not work either. You should verify your sources instead of believing the summary, so yea try again