This is more of the "there are no forests on earth" psy-op that is making the rounds now that the flat earth theory is no longer catching on. Once again, when planets cool, many pockets and caverns that we are not allowed to know about are formed and this theory is called "honeycomb earth" by some. Check out this video to help you develop your discernment skills:

https://youtu.be/CkDG6lUpq_U

Beyond Discernment: What is Discernment? the Secret Space Program and How do we navigate truth?

That silicon forest video is a psyop you believe? OK fine I'll bite , what is the angle? NOT arguing with you, I'm genuinely interested in how that video could be used as a psyop.

First thing I thought of too. It was either hidden knowledge or fantasy in my mind, never considered it was a psychological agenda

Maybe you should give a look at the work of Graham Hancock...

His latest book is a must read: Magicians of the Gods.

Also Randall Carlson. There is a podcast done on the Joe Rogan show with Graham Hancock and Randall Carlon. I highly recommend it. Easily found on youtube.

You should also make more research on the subject, and be careful on what you read, because you are not going in the right direction.

I've never seen one. Science is a liar sometimes. https://youtu.be/Zgk8UdV7GQ0

I've never seen one

It's really funny how creationists use this example as to why Dinosaurs didn't exist. I have never seen Jesus Christ walking around so the same applies.

Birds are living dinosaurs, so you definitely have seen them.

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Impossible to "place" fossils in the way they are found. And we're talking millions of different species.

I have seen dinosaur fossils, though not in the field. Been to the Smithsonian archives where they have everything they're waiting to put on display, or transfer, or clean up, or just hold.

I have, however, seen fossils of stromatolites, stromatoporoids, brachiopods, trilobites, byozoans, crinoids all in the field. Those all pre-date dinosaurs.

At this point... you're probably right.

25 comments so far? Isn't this a shitpost?

So the elite leave wipe out humanity wait 10,000 years come back and then what? Throw out all their technology and live like cave men? Or is all of history a lie as well

Just to clarify, is this something you actually believe, or you're just looking for other sources that have done proposals on this topic?

I have seen real fossil excavations, and a lot of more famous dinosaurs have a lot more complete skeletons. The replicas are there because they don't want the precious fossils damaged.

We absolutely have complete dinosaur fossils, some small theropods have especially well preserved fossils, such as Archaeopteryx and Sciurumimus (one of the most complete and well preserved fossils ever found!

Ya, i've heard the same before but don't buy it, but i'm also certain i've read articles on the same subject. Frankly, i think this sub needs more fun content like that. Been Clin-Trump'd to death in this place for months.

I think you would be interested in Fingerprints of the Gods and Magicians of the Gods by Graham Hancock

Here's your link: https://youtu.be/5KXzgeq1BuA

No it's a part of the Globe Earth/Big Bang/Evolution scam. Big picture it's to uproot humans from any spiritual connection, make them nihilistic and materialistic in doing so, all to make them controllable and enslave humanity

Reread what I just wrote

Watch "Noah by Trey Smith" I found it really interesting. It talks about the great flood of Noah's ark, including whether or not the ark could've actually existed, how many ancient societies recorded a great flood, soft tissue being found in dinosaur fossils etc... he doesn't deny the existence of dinosaurs in the documentary but he does argue that they aren't as old as we have been told they are.

Ica stones have been proven to be a hoax as well, they depict interactions between man and dinosaurs. Not sure i believe the overarching idea, but the Ica stones from Peru are a good place to start the search

The Dinosaurs is just a project by God/Satan/Baal to be raised into the apex of earth life, then made extinct. We are no different from them.

Sooner or later God/Satan/Baal will make us extinct via the "Powers Within", a group of special humans known for their hunger for power and fame, by the shackles that they present us called Religion and money, and eventually make us a drone-like species under their service.

In other words, the moment that we lose our free will is the day that God/Satan/Baal decided to make us extinct after the Trilobites and Dinosaurs.

The elite use "science" to lie to us. The earth is flat.

If the earth is flat, why does the northern and southern hemispheres see a different nights sky?

They are far apart. Picture a huge dome over a flat disc. North Pole in the center. North Star directly over head. People in southern Argentina are too far from the North Pole to see that star.

If the stars are too far away to see, does that mean the portion of the nights sky is completely blank?

No. In flat earth theory the sun does not set. It just moves too far away to see. Same with the stars.

Which completely contradicts observable reality.

The sun does in fact set, and stars can be seen all along the nights sky.

Ok, I'm not good at explaining this. I'm not usually trying to help others understand. But I assure you, look into this and you will get a good understanding.

Take a day and watch / read Eric Dubay.

Assume flat earth for a second. Say you are standing in southern Argentina. Now point toward the North Star. You would be pointing at the horizon. Because everything beyond a certain distance would converge at the horizon. So any stars beyond the north poll (on the opposite side of the dome) would also be at the horizon.

Ok, I'm not good at explaining this.

Which tells me you don't even understand what you're trying to say.

I could. Explain the world to you. Just nothing I'm prepared to do homie.

You can shoot a laser across a flat body of water and hit the other side.

You can shoot a laser across a flat body of water and hit the other side.

How far apart is the body of water?

4 miles.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9uersWDp-3c

If you are in an endless hallway with lights on the ceiling, the lights converge at your horizon. A light 10 miles away would be at the same point as a light 1 mile away.

With a huge sky, the same thing happens with stars. The curvature of the dome is very gradual. So it's basically a hallway ceiling above you. After a while, the lights meet your horizon.

But you'd see the lights the entire time. So that doesn't work.

Also, in your hallway example, the lights would appear to be spaced closer and closer together the further along they go - Which doesn't match observable reality.

None of your claims match what I can see if I just step outside.

www.youtube.com/user/ericdubay77

Dude. It does. You just have to open your mind to it. It's actually extremely easy to understand.

If it's so easy to understand, why are you having such a difficult time?

I don't have any trouble understanding it :)

I'm for real curious. Do you think their is somthing on the other side of the earth. And woukdnt gravity change when you got close to the edge

Gravity is a lie.

in what way is gravity a lie

No such thing.

Here is a flat earth doc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhRiLP32qfs

you link a 6 hour video documentary without directly answering my question about gravity? at least give me a timestamp

So I believe that gravity is a lie. Celestial bodies are lies. NASA is 100% a lie. Einstein was a fraud. Many many many other famous scientists were frauds.

But that is WAY harder to argue than whether or not the earth is a spinning globe or a flat disc. We can figure this out. One of us HAS to be right.

So if it is a globe, I will believe in gravity.

And if it is a disc, you can then look into your beliefs about gravity. I assume that if you found out you were wrong about globe earth, you would admit that you might be wrong about gravity, correct?

All I am asking is for you to provide evidence or arguments that support the claim you put forth:

Gravity is a lie.

You've made a claim. I did not say that gravity is true, you simply claimed the contrary. I merely asked on what grounds the claim was based. The burden of proof is on you. If you can't substantiate your (currently baseless) claim, it should hold no grounds in the minds of any reasonable person.

If your sole argument against gravity is: "If the globe earth is false, why can't gravity also be false?", then that is a logical fallacy.

Answer this question: If you became convinced that the earth was a flat disc, would you reconsider your stance on gravity?

I would need a separate argument and evidence for the claim that gravity isn't real, because gravity and the shape of the earth are two separate propositions.

(A) The Earth is a globe

(B) The Earth is flat

(C) Gravity is the means by which two objects are drawn together in space

where (A) =/= (B).

If I choose to believe (A) or (B), it should have no bearing on (C). You're simply arguing that if I held position (A) as true, and learned that in fact position (B) were true, then I must also reconsider (C), but (C) has no relation to the question of (A) or (B). You are suggesting that a person proven wrong just once, must therefore call into question every unrelated thing they know. That is a slippery slope fallacy if I ever heard one.

I'm not saying you would have to change you belief in gravity.

I'm saying you should reconsider. If the earth is flat...you would (should) need to reconsider EVERYTHING.

But that's illogical, and I just laid out why. Simply reiterating your initial claim doesn't add to the discussion whatsoever. You've still provided no grounds on which I should reconsider my position on gravity

You would not reconsider your position on gravity if you realized that there is no curvature to the earth.

Okay then.

Why would I?

If I realized there was no curvature to the Earth, should I also call into question that apples are sweet? Should I question the legitimacy of my biological parents? My sexuality? Where do I draw the line? What an absurd line of argument

So I believe that gravity is a lie. Celestial bodies are lies. NASA is 100% a lie. Einstein was a fraud. Many many many other famous scientists were frauds.

You came to this conclusion while being unable to do even basic math? LMAO

We live under a dome (the firmament).

Antarctica ice wall is a ring that encloses earth as we know it.

I think there are other ponds beyond our world. I think we could go there. But they don't let us explore Antarctica.

And if you explore it, you may meet a mysterious death.

Then how does the light just disappear? Explain why the sun stops shining if you are saying it's just bundled up on the horizon?

If I have a flashlight and start walking away from you, eventually you won't be able to see the light anymore. When I am too far away. And it isn't because of the curvature of the earth. Its because I am too far away and my light source is not strong enough.

Lay out the math for this claim. Give me the distances and intensity and everything you use in order to backup your claim that this is all that's happening with the sun.

Please check out Eric Dubay's youtube channel.

Hell I'll do a proof after work that proves this theory bullshit. Give me the assumptions about the sun and the earth and I'll show why it doesn't work.

The sun is not far above us. Just a few dozen miles. It's not that big either.

Then how come when I get in a plane and am flying in the air, the sun doesn't look bigger? If this claim was true. Flying closer to it should make it appear larger much more quickly because you are saying it's close to us.

Planes fly 7 miles high. The sun is maybe 40 miles high. It should appear larger.

Is the sun a globe or is it flat as well in your fantasy world?

The sun and the moon are equal sized flat discs. We only see one side of the moon.

Pretty big coincidence that the sun is 93 million miles away and the moon is 238K miles away and they appear the same size to us.

Pretty big coincidence that 1 revolution of the moon is the same as one year one the moon. So we can only see one side.

Where is the sun located in this fantasy scenario?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhRiLP32qfs

Look at the 2 hr 40 min mark

I want you to explain to me why the sun always appears as a complete circle if it is supposedly a flat disc pointing straight towards the earth. In your fantasy world, as the sun was setting it couldnt look like a circle aiming directly at you as it was setting. This is only possible because the sun is a sphere. It's not possible from a visual standpoint to happen in your fantasy world.

The sun doesn't set. It circles above us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhRiLP32qfs

Well no , it doesn't but if we want to live in your fantasy land, simple perspective must be takencinto account. If you are going to claim the sun simple just gets too far away to see, as it gets further away, its shape should slowly morph, assuming it's a flat disc. This doesn't happen at any point in time when you can see it. It would look most like a circle when directly above you, and look more and more thin the further away it gets. This simply doesn't happen. You can observe it yourself. That's the only proof alone that you need to know the theory is complete bullshit.

Just because YOU can't understand an extremely complex new idea...does not prove anything. Sorry pal.

No no no, think about your example of the flashlight slowly backing away. As it gets further away the circle of the flashlight slowly shrinks. That's what happens with perspective. If you are telling me the same thing happens with the sun, why isn't that happening too? Your example with the flashlight doesn't match the sun situation either. The flashlight should be hanging pointing down. Stand under it and it will be a circle, as you walk away it will slowly shrink. Why doesn't the sun do this?

Polaris is always above the north pole, right? Are you saying that as our earth spins and revolves through spaces, that the axis never points anywhere else? How is it possible throughout all of the movement of earth, that the axis always points to the north star? It would certainly vary. Think about the seasons. Where does the axis point?

I'm not talking about Polaris. Im asking you to think about the perspective of the situation you are laying out for me. Why doesn't the sun change its shape as it moves further away from us, to the point of being so far away we can't see it? You claim to be an engineer, you should be able to understand simple perspective ideas.

I understand it bro. Do you understand polaris? Does the earth's axis always point the same direction?

We can get to Polaris after we talk about simple perspective based on the thought you gave about the flashlight and backing up.

Also you imply that Polaris is always 100% in line with the Earth's axis, which is flat out incorrect. Your whole tangent about Polaris doesn't make sense

Okay I am done talking to you. I hope you enjoy your spinning globe.

I think you may be a shill. If not, stop arguing and start investigating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhRiLP32qfs

I am investigating. I am taking your claim and am using scientific understanding to question your claim. I am the one trying to come to an accurate conclusion, think about what I'm saying. Don't immediately dismiss me because I am questioning your theory .

There is no curvature when there should be.

There is never 24 hours of daylight in the Southern Hemisphere.

I'm a guy (engineer if that matters) that watched a bunch of videos, after a trip down the rabbit hole lead me to flat earth, and became 100% convinced. It blew my fucking mind. It blew my mind. Now the world makes so much more sense. This election makes so much more sense.

I'm not a guy who explains this. But for the love of God, I've provided you with the links.

now what in the actual fuck does the election have to do with flat earth

The rabbit hole is deep and scary. Every time you think it can't get worse, it does. It's not a whole bunch of different conspiracies. It's just one big one. When you get to flat earth, you see the big conspiracy much clearer.

You understand that we are being lied to about everything. You start to see what TPTB are capable of and why they are doing what they are doing.

This election is theater. The presidency is nothing but theater. The president is an actor. Just like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Neil Tyson, Bill Nye, and virtually every other famous person you know. They are chosen by TPTB to fool the people.

And you're in on it, right? You've got the answers. Why do contemporary conspiracies always lend themselves to delusions of granduer

You still never answered the question. What does flat earth have to do with the election?

If you go down the rabbit hole and get to flat earth, you realize that the powers that be control everything and we control nothing. The presidency is theater. The illusion of democracy. The candidates are selected by TPTB. The president is selected by TPTB. The president is just a puppet for TPTB.

Are you going to answer my question or continue to use slippery slope logical fallacies ,see my other comment, to substantiate all the baseless claims you're making?

Planes fly 7 miles high. The sun is maybe 40 miles high

So upon flying 18% of the way there, shouldn't the sun appear bigger?

It should appear larger.

It doesn't.

This is an example of a thought experiment, and not science.

There are like 200 proofs on the guys youtube channel. You will be convinced.

If you are interested in flat earth, go to Eric Dubay. There is tons of disinformation out there trying to make flat earthers look like idiots. They muddy the waters on purpose. Eric is legit.

There is tons of disinformation out there trying to make flat earthers look like idiots.

lul

I bet you you would be a flat earther if you spent a few days reading / watching Eric Dubay. Up for the challenge? Want to know what flat earther a believe?

If he mirrors anything you've said so far, no I would not.

I'm not capable of explaining it. See for yourself man. Come back in two days and let me know. Seriously.

The least you could do is just copy what Dubay says - You can't even do that?

So that tells me you don't even know anything about what you support.

Oh man. You can't win this way. If you want to win, watch Eric and come back with your arguments.

What kind of disinformation? Legitimate science?

Nope. I'm talking about so-called flat earthers that spew nonsense. Many are paid to do so.

Nope. You went off the deep end of misinformation. Gotta filter that nonsense out.

What evidence convinces you that earth is a spinning globe?

What evidence bounded in legitimate science convinces you the earth is flat?

The earth is flat. You've been lied to. Look into it, but be careful where you go for info. The shills around flat earth (both pretending to be actual flat earthers and arguing with flat earthers) are crazy.

What could possibly be the motive for convincing people the earth is round

Well that is something you will need to figure out for yourself. Seriously, I'm sorry. I'm not the person to explain things.

Provide the scientific evidence for it being flat that refutes the mounds of evidence that it isn't.

The scientific method is definitely the truth. The scientific evidence for a spinning globe earth is a stack of lies.

The scientific method is how you get to the conclusion the earth is a globe lol

Is that how you figured it out? Or were you told so from birth?

You are the one claiming gravity is a lie and I've studied how celestial bodies in our universe work because of gravity. I have scientific backing of all my observations of the solar system and planet. So far all I've gotten was a YouTube guy which I can't watch at the moment but will later. Everything I know of the earth matches the math and science ive had to use in my studies. Explain how you can dismiss it all.

Celestial bodies are a lie.

Please go to Eric Dubay's youtube channel.

Look into it yourself. Eric Dubay's youtube channel.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9uersWDp-3c

Eric Dubay is the expert. Check him out on youtube.

https://m.youtube.com/user/ericdubay77

These are nothing more than thought experiments attempting to convince viewers that real scientific research and observations are bunk. This is not an example of using the scientific method. You've been conned.

Did you use the scientific method when you proved the earth was a spinning globe? No, you took the word of TPTB.

If the world worked on your logic right there we'd be questioning everything over and over again without a consensus ever being reached. It is not TPTB that have written scientific textbooks for the past several hundred years.

Question everything. You've been lied to about everything.

Uh, no. This isn't my first rodeo nor is it for many users here. Most of us have already looked into the flat earth nonsense and have walked away.

If you go to Flat Earth society or the Flat Earth subs in reddit...yeah that is all poop. It's disinfo.

This guy Eric Dubay is a good source. There are tons of good sources.

No, he's not. Again, he uses over-simplified thought experiments to sound authoritative, to convince you that it's real science, and doesn't actually use the scientific method in any video I've seen so far. It is you, by far, that needs to step back and reassess what is realistic and what is pseudoscience clickbait bullshit.

Don't walk away from this one. It really is the big one. If you can see this one...you will see it all.

First of all, I understand the motive behind the globe earth lie. It makes sense to me. Second I think NASA is all fake.

There are no photos of earth from space that aren't shopped.

There is no curvature of the earth visible at heights where there should be.

Bridges and train tracks don't account for the added distance curvature should add.

Lasers can be shot across huge bodies of water.

You can see Chicago from across Lake Michigan on a clear day.

Many many many more.

You can see Chicago from across Lake Michigan on a clear day

You can see the tops of the sky scrapers across Lake Michigan , I personally have seen it. How do you explain the same phenomenon happening with boats on water in the distance?

Bridges do not span a large enough distance for the curvature to matter.

Bridges are long enough. So are train tracks. Boats don't disappear below the horizon. When they appear to, grab a telescope and you will see the boat again.

How are bridges long enough for it to matter?

lake pontchartrain causeway is 23.8 miles long. So there should be ~377 feet of curvature.

. So there should be ~377 feet of curvature.

LMAO

What is the correct amount of vertical change?

https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/

of course, that's also the calculation at its simplest.

So I was correct. Lol at you.

LMAO try the calculation again superstar. Then come back once you've added refraction. Then try and make a point about the flat earth. Rekt

I don't have to provide evidence to prove an accepted scientific claim. You need to provide evidence to the contrary. You're not a scientist as you've posted elsewhere, so I'm not sure how you believe those simplified thought experiments you watch on YouTube negate thousands of years of mathematical advancements. Thought experiments are meant to explain complicated scientific concepts on a general level, not to provide evidence of other, non-proven claims.

It's not simple thought experiments that convinced me. If you really want to know about flat earth theory, watch eric's videos. I beg you.

The least you could do is just copy what Dubay says - You can't even do that?

So that tells me you don't even know anything about what you support.

4 miles.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9uersWDp-3c

It's not simple thought experiments that convinced me. If you really want to know about flat earth theory, watch eric's videos. I beg you.

No, he's not. Again, he uses over-simplified thought experiments to sound authoritative, to convince you that it's real science, and doesn't actually use the scientific method in any video I've seen so far. It is you, by far, that needs to step back and reassess what is realistic and what is pseudoscience clickbait bullshit.