Remember years ago when we used to protest our governments against going to war? Where is the protest now? Or does no one give a shit anymore? What happened to the people who used to organize these? Killed off discreetly while we have been watching T.V?
At least it let them know we cared enough to protest. Now they do whatever they feel like doing and no one holds them accountable, so they progressively get worse, because they feel that we will accept it.
I still hold out hope that there is a tipping point where people will snap out of it and realise that unless we do something they will put us on an irreversible path.
There's many protests still going man, but you can't stop the machine. Protested in the streets in 2001, 2004, 2008, still have friends that do it. Gets you nowhere, crushes your soul.
But here's the deal, the bottom line on nuclear weapons is, that when the president gives the order it must be followed. There's about 4 minutes between the order being given and the people responsible for launching nuclear weapons to do so.
Haha right? What, do the button pushers immediately get the message via secure communications, then sit around and think about pressing the button for the following three minutes and 55 seconds?
But you honestly believe it takes exactly four minutes in the situation? I mean sure Hilary probably has an ear piece in, but do you think her team actually fact checked the precise time it would take to execute a nuclear strike?
Honest question : Why is it a big deal for someone to know our nuclear response time? I've been mulling it over a few minutes, I can't really think of anything. especially if it's only 4 minutes... But I do not pretend to be an authority on the subject.
IT's not like anyone with half a brain would have it figured out BTW : cruise missiles can take 20/30 minutes to come from... let's say russia. So obviously : launch, detection, report... all that taken into account you need to still have enough time to retaliate.
Hence the logic : it must be somewhere in the vicinity of 5 to 10 minutes.
You would have to be extra fast if the launch was made from close proximity, like a nuclear sub close to your coast.
IT's not like anyone with half a brain would have it figured out BTW : cruise missiles can take 20/30 minutes to come from... let's say russia. So obviously : launch, detection, report... all that taken into account you need to still have enough time to retaliate.
Hence the logic : it must be somewhere in the vicinity of 5 to 10 minutes.
You would have to be extra fast if the launch was made from close proximity, like a nuclear sub close to your coast.
33 comments
1 TheGhostOfDusty 2016-10-20
Rule 6. Removed.
Feel free to re-post this without the shouting.
14 V1NC3NZ0 2016-10-20
Remember years ago when we used to protest our governments against going to war? Where is the protest now? Or does no one give a shit anymore? What happened to the people who used to organize these? Killed off discreetly while we have been watching T.V?
6 dilutediluteok 2016-10-20
Has a protest ever prevented or stopped a war? Honest question.
3 V1NC3NZ0 2016-10-20
At least it let them know we cared enough to protest. Now they do whatever they feel like doing and no one holds them accountable, so they progressively get worse, because they feel that we will accept it.
3 whyd_you_kill_doakes 2016-10-20
Who held them accountable for previous wars? I haven't heard of any of them every getting charged with war crimes
1 V1NC3NZ0 2016-10-20
There is a first time for everything.
1 Fauglheim 2016-10-20
Public outcry may have played a part in preventing Obama from conducting a ground invasion of Syria. Could be many other factors though.
2 Johnny-Skitzo 2016-10-20
They have become to old. The current generation is full of pussies
2 V1NC3NZ0 2016-10-20
I still hold out hope that there is a tipping point where people will snap out of it and realise that unless we do something they will put us on an irreversible path.
2 Imaybelightning 2016-10-20
There's many protests still going man, but you can't stop the machine. Protested in the streets in 2001, 2004, 2008, still have friends that do it. Gets you nowhere, crushes your soul.
1 V1NC3NZ0 2016-10-20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhFvZRT7Ds0
1 greetingearthlings 2016-10-20
They stopped the draft and people stopped caring
5 Beneficial1 2016-10-20
Psst, don't shout, the Russian mods will hear you.
4 [deleted] 2016-10-20
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7 Johnny-Skitzo 2016-10-20
The Clinton Defence
2 sheasie 2016-10-20
if that fails, then "well, everyone else is doing it!"
if that fails, then "the russians!!!"
1 m4k4v3l1Th3d0n 2016-10-20
AT THIS POINT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE. GEE WHIZ
1 Homer_Simpson_Doh 2016-10-20
At least she didn't reveal the new launch code: 000001
6 Not-My-Real-Name- 2016-10-20
also at that point what difference does it make. Unless you are already half way down the stairs of your bunker....we are all fucked
2 NostralDumass 2016-10-20
we all burn.................burn I tell ya
1 HarryParatesties 2016-10-20
Not me! My tinfoil suit and house/Faraday cage is built to withstand the force of a million suns!
1 TrollsRLifeless 2016-10-20
we came, we saw, he died
1 sheasie 2016-10-20
actually, i think it's more like 3.50
3 Ani-PLAMO 2016-10-20
We all gonna die anyway
2 sheasie 2016-10-20
especially with hillary as POTUS :<
3 nixfu 2016-10-20
what is the quote? i must have missed it.
6 Johnny-Skitzo 2016-10-20
4 rawwmoan 2016-10-20
4 minutes? Yeah in the 90's
2 Grimeyz 2016-10-20
Haha right? What, do the button pushers immediately get the message via secure communications, then sit around and think about pressing the button for the following three minutes and 55 seconds?
1 Beneficial1 2016-10-20
What's the chain of command, who executes the orders?
-1 Johnny-Skitzo 2016-10-20
You have me there.
1 Grimeyz 2016-10-20
But you honestly believe it takes exactly four minutes in the situation? I mean sure Hilary probably has an ear piece in, but do you think her team actually fact checked the precise time it would take to execute a nuclear strike?
3 mjschreff 2016-10-20
It's not secret
1 m4k4v3l1Th3d0n 2016-10-20
Well in her defense she is amazing at leaking classified info...
1 SinCitySaint 2016-10-20
Honest question : Why is it a big deal for someone to know our nuclear response time? I've been mulling it over a few minutes, I can't really think of anything. especially if it's only 4 minutes... But I do not pretend to be an authority on the subject.
1 Herlock 2016-10-20
Apparently it's not much of a big deal, because it's already public knowledge for a long time :
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-nuclear-weapon-launch/
IT's not like anyone with half a brain would have it figured out BTW : cruise missiles can take 20/30 minutes to come from... let's say russia. So obviously : launch, detection, report... all that taken into account you need to still have enough time to retaliate.
Hence the logic : it must be somewhere in the vicinity of 5 to 10 minutes.
You would have to be extra fast if the launch was made from close proximity, like a nuclear sub close to your coast.
1 Herlock 2016-10-20
Apparently it's not much of a big deal, because it's already public knowledge for a long time :
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-nuclear-weapon-launch/
IT's not like anyone with half a brain would have it figured out BTW : cruise missiles can take 20/30 minutes to come from... let's say russia. So obviously : launch, detection, report... all that taken into account you need to still have enough time to retaliate.
Hence the logic : it must be somewhere in the vicinity of 5 to 10 minutes.
You would have to be extra fast if the launch was made from close proximity, like a nuclear sub close to your coast.