WikiLeaks: Assange Still Missing. Suspicious Unverifiable e-mails turn up in 15th dump. Cryptic messages and a Mocking new Tweet.
388 2016-10-22 by DocturDread
UPDATE SUNDAY MORNING: Message from Wikileaks on Twitter from last night:
WikiLeaks @wikileaks 7h7 hours ago (around 2AM est) : We will release a statement tomorrow about Assange. Our editor is safe and still in full command despite reduced communications with staff.
.#Podesta16 has been released: https://www.rt.com/usa/363812-wikileaks-podesta-clinton-emails/
UPDATE (10:30PM est): There is no evidence of tampering with the Podesta e-mail dumps so far. Twitter remains suspicious but active. If anyone can find evidence of faulty data, please let us know. We are looking forward to the next release. Thank you all for your support. Know you are all loved. Blessed Be!
R.I.P. Gavin Macfadyen
Mocking Tweet:
WikiLeaks @wikileaks 1h1 hour ago
Did you know: That WikiLeaks has a perfect, decade long record of authentication?
Suddenly, Hillary is a fan of WikiLeaks: (thank you King0fThoseWhoKnow)
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/789279261832146944
Hillary Clinton Verified account @HillaryClinton "I said no to some jokes that I thought were over the line, but I suppose you can judge for yourself on Wikileaks in the next few days."
source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGgxr4Sxoas&feature=youtu.be&t=2412 (thanks tinderingupastorm)
I guess CNN got over that whole, "only we can read the wikileaks emails" thing since they're linking to WikiLeaks directly now: (thanks saltysiy and TeslasMuse)
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/21/news/clinton-paid-women-less/ verify result: pass
Check out this crazy Email: (thank you Ronaldjpierce)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25829 verify result (DKIM Verifier): fail (body has been altered) : Independently verified as a pass.
yes something is fucky. DKIM check fails... Download the raw email and upload it to this site: https://9vx.org/~dho/dkim_validate.php it will tell you if the email has been tempered with. Source: https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/58llkw/authenticating_wikileaks_podesta_emails/ (thank you jjcooli0h)
Another crazy email: (thanks again Ronaldjpierce)
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263 (cannot be verified)
As well as the front page "HELP HIM" hidden in the misspelled words of previous tweets.: (thanks to Flycatcher_)
Suspicious tweet by wikileaks right before he dissapeared: http://imgur.com/rK9Jfbt (thank you imbellish)
8enjAm1N f1scH831n => Benjamin Fischbein
His twitter feed is HEAVILY pro-hillary/anti-trump, probably CTR involved. See below for more info. (thank you I-o-n-i-x)
Despite a recent assurance by a certain faction of Anonymous:
Anonymous @YourAnonNews 42m42 minutes ago
We can confirm Julian Assange is okay.
WTF guys? Stay safe and Be good.
178 comments
73 amygdalatickler 2016-10-22
I don't think the DDoS attacks were Julian's supporters at all, nor would he tweet that. The tweet saying it was his supporters sounds like a misdirection scheme for both the public and his followers. That's why I no longer trust the integrity of the Wikileaks tweets this week, and I also believe their main channels of communication to the public have been compromised. It's too coincidental to the events of the Ecuadorian embassy cutting off the internet. All this right after Obama removes ICANN from Congressional oversight... so ICANN could be used to fabricate DNS and keep the website, twitter, etc going with disinformation, allowing the Clinton campaign to turn its greatest threat into an asset. This is all very coordinated.
40 DocturDread 2016-10-22
Cyber "Attacks" Which Crippled US Internet, Came (mostly) from INSIDE the USA; specifically a US AFB in KS
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/2296
33 perfect_pickles 2016-10-22
treason troops at McConnell Air Force Base
the 184th Intelligence Wing.
they will have something good to put on their post service resumes.
'subverted the elections and committed treason against the people of the USA'
16 BakingTheCookiesRigh 2016-10-22
They can do anything for 'national security'.
9 911bodysnatchers322 2016-10-22
Until a new regime is installed and then considers them treasonous, lines them up and shoots them.
Actualy with military, people are expensive, so they will probably put them into an LSD torture tank for a few weeks and give them a new identity through constant abuse to dissociate them into a new self. So it's only the top people who will be shot / hung
4 Exec99 2016-10-22
You know too much
3 Mad_Spoon 2016-10-22
Torture via LSD... Fuck.
Environment is key. Nothing is scarier than your own worst nightmares. This would break a mind beyond recovery quick.
1 perfect_pickles 2016-10-22
that works
2 SrslyGoFuckYourself 2016-10-22
If it's like Nuremberg everyone will hang. Officers, enlisted, contracters, mercs... everyone. As it should be.
1 Flomo420 2016-10-22
You're kidding yourself if you think a 'regime change' will do anything to stop this runaway train.
2 MAGA_nificent 2016-10-22
media saying russia or china unless theyve updated that
-5 asdf2100asd 2016-10-22
The 184th is national guard. I really, really don't think they are behind this.
"According to the public web site of McConnell Air Force Base, the first -and perhaps most important function -- of that base is . . . the 184th Intelligence Wing."
-uh, no. McConnell's primary mission is refueling and transport. It really hurts any points made here when people make stuff up.
Source: McConnell was where I was stationed for my 3 year tenure in the air force.
6 inventingnothing 2016-10-22
http://www.184iw.ang.af.mil/resources/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=13563
You were saying?
3 asdf2100asd 2016-10-22
Well, I mean.. the majority of McConnell isn't guard. It's active duty. That website isn't McConnell's website, it's the 184th's website. But to be honest I didn't know that the guard side was only intelligence so I will concede the point even if the above quote isn't accurate.
5 Idiocy_or_Treason 2016-10-22
Source: You
13 trinsic-paridiom 2016-10-22
Yeah that tweet was suspicious. That would be something someone would say if you had Assange tied up in a chair with tape over his mouth sitting right next to you. It's almost to stupid to say, like this whole thing could be a double blind to get people invested in the outcome for some future plot...
13 [deleted] 2016-10-22
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12 trinsic-paridiom 2016-10-22
It does have a point though, let's suspend judgment. Hillary would want people to be suspicious of wiki leaks as more and more emails are comming out about her criminality.
6 [deleted] 2016-10-22
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6 TheUltimateSalesman 2016-10-22
I want a photo of JA. What's the big deal?
3 MAGA_nificent 2016-10-22
I agree, it would really ease alot of peoples minds. Is it true that since that first time after they cut his internet the embassy has refused to confirm anything about him? Why is asking after his well being such a ver botten thing to ask? Its easy enough to confirm no.?
2 trinsic-paridiom 2016-10-22
Because as it builds momentum it has the potential to drown out whats really going on I guess. I probably wouldn't want to silence you, but I would be worried about a psy-op conning people to support a black job on wiki-leaks.
2 ajouis 2016-10-22
Because people flood threads with "Wikileaks is compromised", it's untrue and hurtful, if it was true it would have been known by the wikileaks staffer and they would have spoken out, maybe not in the US but i'm in europe and knows very leftist outlets, and there were no such thing as a concerned friend of assange saying there were problems.
8 FeminismIsAids 2016-10-22
That 4chan post makes sense though. Thanks for posting it.
5 ajouis 2016-10-22
you don't get a hacker joke so you suddenly think wiki is compromised, but nope, their twitter is pretty consistent with a leftist anti clinton view, the changes are likely due to the fact that there is now one of of the moderator of the twitter offline (assange) but the rest of the line stayed the same before and after (pro green). There are reddits that have proved that the emails couldn't have been doctored because they were also in chains that weren't doctored (the same emails that failed the test passed it when in a chain). Conspiracy theories are good as long as they don't undermine truth tellers, which now they do, you can't just doubt of everything with no reason because without facts you can't make a good judgement.
5 herefromyoutube 2016-10-22
actually, they don't even need ICANN.
The NSA has a tool that can clone a website, upload infected software and display hashes for said software and have everybody downloading without issue. The worst part is that no one, not even the website or account holder would see a difference in traffic or anything.
2 choppedspaghetti 2016-10-22
maybe wikileaks was just trying to imply that the american people were on their supporters, and not the russians. idk.
2 digiorno 2016-10-22
When it comes down to it, we are talking about the United States government. Would they even need to hack a twitter account to take control of it? I imagine that if wikileaks was posing a credible threat to the powers that be that they could simply tell twitter to give them control and it would done within a matter of minutes.
Then again. Wikileaks has put out some very damning stuff in the past so if the government were really interested in stopping them, then why wait till now? Is it really the ICAAN thing?
48 jjcooli0h 2016-10-22
I'm the author of the thread mentioned in the OP about how to verify the Podesta Wikileaks emails.
I double checked the email in question:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/25829
and it verifies correctly.
https://i.sli.mg/Eqg6c2.jpg
It's quite possible that the OP just made a mistake in copying/pasting the raw source (don't use "view source" on Wikileaks, do it via the method outlined in my post).
Otherwise even the slightest byte being off/missing/added will lead to a failure in verification.
5 MrB0mbastic 2016-10-22
You need to be at the top brother.
-8 trinsic-paridiom 2016-10-22
Top of what?
2 Greentarpaulin 2016-10-22
That email mentioned 25289 is an earlier version of an email chain that was already released on the 13th in podesta emails part 6. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8882
1 jjcooli0h 2016-10-22
Correct - it was just forwarded onto 3 others (and back to Podesta) like an hour later.
1 DocturDread 2016-10-22
You cannot view that source as its over 10k. I uploaded the .eml directly from the downloaded raw source. It still fails. Also tried a direct copy from the .eml and it fails again.
7 jjcooli0h 2016-10-22
Hey, I will be back in my office shortly and once I get there, I will address what's going on with this particular email (it may take some typing lol).
You're correct in that it fails via the online tool (apologies - I work on the CLI, so I don't use that particular method of verifying them, but you're correct about that)
I'll just leave this comment here as a placeholder for now; and so you know I've seen your question.
3 DocturDread 2016-10-22
Excellent. Having difficulty getting pass results for most e-mails now.
13 jjcooli0h 2016-10-22
The problem with the version of dkimverify being run on that website is that it has an unfixed bug.
The DKIM signature verification fails if message Content-Type is: multipart/alternative
As you can see in the 25859 email:
So that's really a false negative.
Yeah OK that's great but WHY is that happening?
Well, the (unfixed) problem seems to be that internally, in the code, write() will flush the stream after transcoding the content in cases where the content is not already in its target encoding. So what happens is that an extra '\n' is added when being flushed and the buffer doesn't end with a '\n', while the canonicalization methods only require to add a '\n' if the body DOES NOT end with a '\r\n'.
In the current version, as the body is being written when the last line was not a newline ('\n') is a state which can be true even if we are not yet at the end of the body.
The unfortunate reality is that these kind of failures are relatively common with DKIM (that problem was only really noticed a year ago, for example).
tl;dr
—> Newline problems \n vs \r\n
…the bane of programming for over 3 decades. People shouldn't get overly excited if something fails, because false negatives aren't a rare thing when you have all of these permutations of OS systems, MIME encoding types, line endings, etc.
The easiest emails to verify will usually be ones between relatively few people (or if a lot of people, then with most of them using say, Gmail or Yahoo).
Personally, I've seen a lot of issues when emails have an intermixture of 7-bit and 8-bit encodings, that type of thing tends to f* things up pretty easy.
Anyway hope that helps. Sorry again for not double-checking the website verifier at first - I was just in a rush.
Thanks for noticing that, I'll probably update the post with a link to these comments here for anyone having problems.
If you find anything good and the verification thing is being wonky, I'd be happy to take a look. Just send me a PM or page me to the thread and I'll check it out~
3 DocturDread 2016-10-22
Thanks again! Much appreciated.
6 daneelr_olivaw 2016-10-22
Maybe edit your post to add that it's entirely possible that the emails are still authentic.
2 unclezipper 2016-10-22
Replying to bookmark this
14 saltysiy 2016-10-22
just saw this new topik here on this sub: I guess CNN got over that whole, "only we can read the wikileaks emails" thing since they're linking to wikileaks directly now
Devide and so on, hope enough damage is done, iv this is their damage control
3 DocturDread 2016-10-22
Great find. Added. Thanks brother!
11 King0fThoseWhoKnow 2016-10-22
Weird right? Now look at this:
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/789279261832146944
16 humpi 2016-10-22
5 perfect_pickles 2016-10-22
so that should also included police MRAPs as well as police MGs and civilian rifles.
10 greetingearthlings 2016-10-22
That was from her speech at the charity dinner/roast.
5 King0fThoseWhoKnow 2016-10-22
That's likely now that i look at it yeah, but the sentence doesn't really make sense in the context, she said no to jokes? What does that mean
6 tinderingupastorm 2016-10-22
https://youtu.be/yGgxr4Sxoas?t=2412
5 King0fThoseWhoKnow 2016-10-22
Yep, op should include this too, i was unaware
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
Your point?
16 greetingearthlings 2016-10-22
Just giving some context as to where this this tweet came from. It would maybe be more suspicious if it came out of the blue and wasn't from a speech. If anything, it's just following along their tactic of marginalizing the damage coming from the leaks by acting like they're not a big deal.
10 Stewie19 2016-10-22
It's a mocking of wikileaks. She's basically saying that wikileaks will come out with all the jokes she chose not to use because they crosses a line.
10 andredawson 2016-10-22
She still tweeted it. She said it and tweeted it. She wants to point people to wikileaks now huh? Just one more crazy coincidence huh?
Wikileaks has been compromised.
5 IanPhlegming 2016-10-22
While I also think Wikileaks has been compromised a couple things on the joke/tweet.
She didn't write her jokes or any of that material.
She doesn't do her own tweeting. Whoever her social marketing mouth piece is maybe just thought it was funny.
OR-- you might be right. Just offering perspective.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
Ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous.
1 911bodysnatchers322 2016-10-22
She summons daemons and selects the most henchworthy for her social media managment strategy. This week its Belphegor on the mic.
5 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Hillary did not endorse Wikileaks on Twitter nor was she pointing people to it. She was simply tweeting all her jokes from the Al Smith Dinner: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/21/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-al-smith-dinner-best-worst-jokes?client=safari
-4 gs2549 2016-10-22
Your up/down vote count is hidden, not to mention how anti-Wikileaks Hilary and anyone/everyone that is voting for/paid by her has been up until now, I mean CNN said it was illegal to access the WikiLeaks until now, Hilary blamed Russia as a measure to make people not want to be influenced by "Putin" aka an exKGB enemy of the USA, Donna Brazile said the emails were doctored, and NOW people should read them and judge for themselves? Give Me A Break, she wouldn't post a joke on Twitter that could possibly be misinterpreted as encouragement to look at files that show her in a light of being potentially (but very likely) unelectable (depending on what you value in a leader), dishonest, cruel (arguably evil), treasonous, hypocritical, egotistical/extremely arrogant and unethical (to say the very least).
I feel really bad for Julian Assange wherever he is and whatever condition he is in. Even if he is on a private island with 100 virgin concubines, an open bar w/ bartender, a movie theatre with access to Netflix & HBO (but no computer), and anything else he wants. Assange would be miserable if he knew what they were doing to his forced transparency regarding Hilary, Podesta, and the DNC.
I feel like the threat to Hilary was one thing because the election could easily already be rigged in her favor. The threat to the DNC was another thing but it didn't impact anyone powerful enough to really matter. Even most of the Podesta emails didn't matter that much. BUT the threat to Obama, his administration and his "legacy" matters to the few people that have the capability to silence/alter/control WikiLeaks; if I had to guess as to why the foot finally dropped on WikiLeaks, that would be my best guess.
EDIT: CHECK MY POST HISTORY if you think I'm suspicious
3 ajouis 2016-10-22
The joke was roasting wikileaks, saying they post worthless things like unused edgy jokes, certainly not praising them
2 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
I'm assuming you mean saying the joke at the Al Smith Dinner and then quoting that joke, along with all her other unfunny jokes, on her Twitter page? That doesn't seem that odd to me. Maybe saying that joke originally at the dinner, yes, but not quoting it on twitter. On the other hand, she's also joked about email/server scandal. Does that also mean HRC wants us to pay more attention to that scandal and look into it more or is she trying to get us to feel like it's really no big deal and just brush it off? Campaigns aren't above changing tactics or adding some when previous threats aren't working. I'm getting worried CTR is concern trolling to discredit WikiLeaks. I'm just not sure who to believe anymore.
-1 gs2549 2016-10-22
Oh yeah, btw if you actually aren't CTR and think I'm CTR, CHECK MY POST HISTORY. If you still accuse me of being CTR after checking my post history then I know you are CTR and completely full of shit.
Your post history indicates that you did not give a shit about r/conspiracy prior to this story breaking, kinda guessing you found this on accident and decided to try and keep people's faith in Wikileaks alive despite all evidence pointing towards Julian Assange and Wikileaks both being compromised. Oh yeah, I took the red pill a long time ago, so yeah, at least I sound like conspiracy theorist in my post, you definitely aren't one to question much and don't sound like a conspiracy theorist either, besides the general sentiment among conspiracy theorists that something is amuck regarding Wikileaks. Oh yeah, and if you cite that I haven't been coming to r/conspiracy that long, I kept search conspiracy theory in the front page search box, once I finally tried just conspiracy months later, I found what would become my primary news source.
2 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
I'm sorry, I never meant to imply you were CTR but that they're in this sub much more than even a couple months ago and they are infiltrating this sub with misdirection, distraction and of course trying to discredit wikileaks. Just because regular posters aren't CTR doesn't mean CTR's ideas can't take hold in the minds of regular posters. Obviously I don't know whether or not wikileaks is compromised. Of course I'm very concerned about that and very much hope Julian is alive. I just don't want everyone to stop reading the podesta emails. Yes, let's be skeptical and cautious but let's also not stop reading them in case we're just being played by concern trolls.
As a disclaimer, I lurk a lot on reddit and am still somewhat of a newbie. I am embarrassed to say but I'm clueless on how to spot CTR by their comment history. Do you have any tips on how to spot them?
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Also just wanted to say, I'm not much for writing, but I read just about every thread on this sub every day since April. You could give me an r/conspiracy knowledge test and I promise you, I'd pass w/flying colors. :) My worldwide has done quite the 180.
-5 andredawson 2016-10-22
Nice try. Nobody buys it.
7 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Nobody buys what??? Did HRC not say that joke at the Al Smith Dinner, then tweet the exact same joke, in quotes no less, via Twitter??? Because there's actual video and written proof of all those things I just said. Are you denying that that was the same verbatim joke she said at the Al Smith Dinner? Did you even watch it? I did. Would you like me to link the video from the Al Smith Dinner for proof as well?
-8 andredawson 2016-10-22
Nobody buys your spin.
7 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Serious question: what spin? I don't think we're adversaries here. We're probably more on the same page than you realize. I'm concerned about WikiLeaks being compromised too but I'm also wary that CTR would also like to discredit WikiLeaks. So I'm just trying to weigh all the evidence myself, and part of that is pointing out that some "evidence" gathered may be misinterpreted. Don't you think it's important to point that out in order to get to the truth? I'd like to have a real discussion. So I'm asking you politely, are you denying HRC made this exact quoted joke at the Al Smith Dinner?
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
She made the joke because she knew they were taking Assange and wikileaks. Get it? She wouldn't have mentioned wikileaks. She just wouldn't have. No way.
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Okay, that's fair. I wish you would have said that in the first place, that it's suspect because she made a joke about WikiLeaks at the dinner and that's what was weird about it. I understand the concern, but HRC was technically the first person to mention Wikileaks at the third debate when all Wallace's question was about was are you a fan of open borders. Yes, she did it to get in front of it and spin it to being about Russia, but she still didn't need to bring them up. After reading a lot of the Podesta emails, I think her staff is just shit at jokes and humor. Most of her jokes that night weren't funny. I guess I'm still not convinced this is a missing piece of the puzzle.
0 andredawson 2016-10-22
I don't know how that wasn't obvious.
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
You talked about her tweet as if HRC is starting to advocate reading Wikileaks when it was just a tweet to quote her stupid unfunny joke from the night before.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
I'm sorry you make no sense. You are suggesting that HRC made a joke about wikileaks, THEN tweeted it, but not on purpose? Just because she was retweeetin my all jokes? Cmon. I don't get your thinking.
3 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Wow, maybe I should give up. How am I not being clear? HRC said that joke at the Al Smith Dinner, then she or staff tweeted one by one every joke HRC made at the dinner on her Twitter page for her adoring fans in case they missed her "witty" jokes at the dinner. HRC or staff even put every joke in quotes to show it was from the earlier dinner. I linked the guardian article which printed her jokes from the dinner to show the tweet was just her tweeting her quoted jokes from the previous dinner. I don't think anything nefarious is going on; HRC is just not funny.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
I get what you are saying!!!!! But I don't get how you think saying it at the tucking roast means anything different!!!! She said it at the dinner. Then tweeted it. So on two occasions she pointed people to wikileaks. Two is more than one. You are trying to say two is less than one.
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
So you think it's highly unlikely that HRC would mention WikiLeaks in a joke? I don't find it that odd because she's also flippantly joked about her email/server scandal. Does that also mean HRC wants us to pay more attention to her email/server scandal and look into it more or is she trying to get us to feel like it's really no big deal and just brush it off? I'm just thinking she's adding a different tactic on top of the Russia fear-mongering tactic and just trying to make a joke of WikiLeaks and act like it's just one big nothingburger.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
But that's just one of the several wikileaks coincidences. If it was just this, sure. But it's not. It's all the recent tweets from wikileaks. They are odd and point to some shift. And Assange is MIA.
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Now you hit the areas that DO concern me. Yes, someone or multiple someones have taken over wikileaks twitter page that isn't Julian, that's obvious. Could it be his trusted associates? I would think that's as good an explanation as any. So while that has me concerned, it doesn't necessarily mean that Julian's been taken or dead.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
It doesn't mean that, you are right. But it's what I think. And it really doesn't matter. Until we know, wikileaks cannot be trusted.
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Okay, that's fair. I agree we should remain skeptical but still continue to read the emails. I am sort of cataloging the good ones. If no MSM source is pointing out that they're fake after a couple days or so, I'll feel it's safe to share them w/others. I'll just proceed with caution.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
Imagine if they only release the non-damaging HRC emails? Imagine if they release manufactured emails that make trump look bad?
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
I think we should keep in mind that wikileaks may be comprised and cross that bridge when we come to it.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
And no, I don't buy your explanation as plausible. That's my opinion.
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Well, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. But if you don't mind me asking, why not? It seems to me that she's showing a predictable pattern of behavior.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
How many times has Hillary Clinton said the word wikileaks before this? How much effort has been put in to bury wikileaks from MSM reporting? How much damaging info has wikileaks exposed?
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
I believe she spoke the words twice, three times if you count twitter. So not a lot, but the server is still a big scandal for her that she doesn't worry about joking about. Also, campaign tactics change/evolve when previous fear tactics are wearing off or getting less effective.
2 MAGA_nificent 2016-10-22
like shes emphasizing.. go head look at wikileaks Wikileaks twitter is definitely compromised. Sounds like mark dice took it over. I dont know about the emails being tampered because im not sure how to verify that.
1 ajouis 2016-10-22
No it wasn't, ever heard of positive reinforcement? everytime you see something that agrees with your theory you only remember that, wikileaks is as harsh on hillary as always, and the difference of tone is easy to explain, assange was kept out from moderating it so it's skewed toward the other guy, and that shows, but if you look at the posts before there was already this bias (in short pro green) since a long time, just more diluted.
0 MAGA_nificent 2016-10-22
I believe the wikileaks twitter has been comprimised, as far as the actual leaks that remains to be seen. I dont care about candidates as much as i care about the truth.
3 ajouis 2016-10-22
but their twitter hasn't been compromised, as i said, you think that just because julian's perspective was shut down because of saturday's episode and that made you feel like they changed, which they did but for the obvious reason i cited, the proof is that their twitter just posted a message from julian assange about the recent death of his friend gavin macfayaden, and they make clear when it's him and when it's not, btw you also have a proof of life of assange now
0 MAGA_nificent 2016-10-22
wheres the proof of life.. show me
1 TheUltimateSalesman 2016-10-22
yup.
1 ajouis 2016-10-22
A tweet signed JA, look at it, that was pure assange style
1 TheCrimsonCorndog 2016-10-22
This was a joke from the roast the other night.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
Yep. Which she only said because wikileaks was under new control.
1 ajouis 2016-10-22
clearly not, I would have known by now
8 vgza12 2016-10-22
Aaannd queue a load of BS from Wikileaks in 5, 4...
6 FcBayern07 2016-10-22
Fuck...
1 DocturDread 2016-10-22
I was just about to follow up on that. Thanks King0fThoseWhoKnow.
I will add it.
1 fat_osvaldo 2016-10-22
Reverse psychology.
1 sheasie 2016-10-22
she's just trying to plant the seed that ...anything she said in her emails might have actually just been her "joking".
9 unclezipper 2016-10-22
To the top: The first email linked may have been altered but it is not necessarily the case. I have noticed, in my own email, that some reply-chain emails don't verify properly, particularly those in mailing lists. I am not sure if this is a function of the re-mailer used in mail lists(which I suspect to be the case), or if this is because it does not include the quoted replies as part of the email body to hash. If there is someone such as an SMTP admin or engineer who can elaborate on this, that would be awesome.
For the second email though, from georgetown.edu, lacks DKIM header info entirely. This is not uncommon and a large portion of emails will likely not have DKIM headers. This is something that many server admins neglect to set up(as someone who ran personal SMTP/IMAP servers previously, I and many others consider it unnecessary). However, all emails sent from Gmail, Yahoo, any .gov domain or hillaryclinton.com have DKIM signatures and there may be other domains that have them as well. The fact that it lacks a DKIM signature from a corporate or .edu mail server is not remarkable, save for the fact that the lack of a signature means the email can't be verified for authenticity.
5 OttoPortPiece 2016-10-22
lmfao dude you are delusional. George did not call jeb bro and use 'constitooosh' in an email followed directly by biden saying he was stuck in a vending machine to obama @ gmail. get a fucking grip, Wikileaks is gone as we know it
8 OrdyHartet 2016-10-22
Yeah once I got to those, I was like, oh shit. This is clearly some hardcore b.s. being shoved at us to discredit wikileaks.
1 CTRShill1786 2016-10-22
Yea seems like it. What i want to know is, that did Assange manage to get out of the embassy somehow?
https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/789871378879086592
https://twitter.com/Cryptomeorg/status/789235405216415744
And the whole tweet by anonymous in the op.
6 javea71 2016-10-22
Be careful discrediting Wikileaks without absolute proof. A few tweets do not provide sufficient evidence of compromise, no matter what Hillary's shills would want you to believe
3 trinsic-paridiom 2016-10-22
Agreed.
-5 OttoPortPiece 2016-10-22
be careful being a nut sucking apologist for wikileaks. We'll be woefully unprepared if everyone just blindly follows it
5 greetingearthlings 2016-10-22
Reading this email more, it seems to be a bunch of joking tweet options.
1 [deleted] 2016-10-22
I think wikileaks will continue to leak real stuff, but if they are comprimised you'll find the quality to drop off, and you'll find useless email chains talking about dinner plans and speeches, and very little to do with any real corruption that might be considered admissable in court.
7 ErnestNyx 2016-10-22
Cliton's tweet references the roast,saying her jokes they didn't use will be leaked. Its a joke.
The strange emails are probably faked messages among staffers for a laugh. The biden one is hilarious. Clearly making up faked delwted clinton emails on her server. Anyone can edit the > > parts of a fwded email.
The help him shit apparently is fake and the typos don't spell that. This is just hysteria.
5 Rougarou423 2016-10-22
Actually the typos don't spell that. The letters you would need to input to fix the typos do spell that.
I had to look at it twice too.
1 Toke1Up 2016-10-22
Hope you're right
3 ErnestNyx 2016-10-22
I absolutely am. This was an in joke between staffers, not compromised false material. You will not find the original emails of the weird ones because they never existed.
2 greetingearthlings 2016-10-22
Like George Bush using an altavista email, lol. God forbid people read through the entire chain before jumping to conclusions that the emails are compromised.
4 ersatz_substitutes 2016-10-22
They were obviously jokes of what those politicians would email each other. I'm really bad at reading these email dump's formatting, so I'm not sure the context they're being made Something to be released publicly, and they're being vetted and deciding which ones to not include. How are so many people in this thread not realizing they're jokes though?
1 greetingearthlings 2016-10-22
I think a lot of people here are either dumb or shills.
0 digiorno 2016-10-22
People do it at my work all the time and scientists aren't known for being huge pranksters. I imagine getting a bunch of Ivy League, silver spoon fed, bored off their rocker, 20 something psych majors a little material like this and the comedy value of the email chains can go a long way.
-1 perfect_pickles 2016-10-22
fabrication of emails would be wire-fraud or obstruction of justice.
jokes can have consequences.
3 ErnestNyx 2016-10-22
There's no way anyone would prosecute that, and if they tried the judge would laugh them out of court for what is essentially satire, and was meant to be satire.
5 tricky2303 2016-10-22
Wasn't there some keys for files dropped that's been scrubbed online also ?
3 __imbellish__ 2016-10-22
Pulled from a 4chan thread:
http://imgur.com/a/wbVXLedit: fixed link? http://imgur.com/rK9Jfbt
1 meanmug247 2016-10-22
Nothing there
1 natehg 2016-10-22
Image is gone
1 inventingnothing 2016-10-22
I saw somewhere that before the DDOS ever started some lines of binary were posted and then quickly scrubbed, followed by the hashes/keys/whatever that came with "Eta Numeris, Sin-Topper, Project Runway, etc."
Poster over at 4chan said that unfortunately it was scrubbed before he was able to capture.
5 humpi 2016-10-22
fuck hillary: she cant stop bragging about her crimes and hits ...like Gadaffi , she made a statement about Seth Rich too after he was murdered : “Surely we can agree that weapons of war have no place on the streets of America.”- she does not lie directly but here she implicates that he had to die.
0 trinsic-paridiom 2016-10-22
Its not really hillary, she is just a reflection of our fucked up system. If anything we should be more weary of that then to focus our attention on a puppet.
1 humpi 2016-10-22
you take what you can get and the first to accept are the most corrupt... ie the known politician families ruling for decades.
5 Nightauditor1981 2016-10-22
Yeah what has happened to/with Assange? We had this big "panic" at the beginning of the week, and then nothing?
Is he alive? Is he online again? And if not, what about that data dump?
2 MAGA_nificent 2016-10-22
did the d do s stop the contingency plan? and what of the new stochaastic thingamajiggy..
1 Nightauditor1981 2016-10-22
You´d have t evaluate the anagrams in no particular order first.
2 MAGA_nificent 2016-10-22
Hopefully announcement will shed some light.
5 zippityd0dah 2016-10-22
Folks, they are setting it up so that they will "release" more emails that will be proven as fakes, in order to give deniability to the previous ones.
4 greetingearthlings 2016-10-22
BTW, if anyone was questioning the particular email about the beanie babies, it can be confirmed via 3rd party source: https://imgur.com/gallery/1J4ONsD
1 flytheflag 2016-10-22
Hey, I don't know if you've seen further down this thread but if you can please take a look at it. More specifically do you have an actual .eml from that source? Basically I'm looking into if the Peter Mattingly name is mentioned prior to the source from the leaked emails. 7/3/2015 is the date in the screen shot you uploaded but the original image was first recorded online 2014-10-24.
Discussion of this has been sidetracked by a shill.
0 ersatz_substitutes 2016-10-22
I don't understand how this is relevant at all to wikileaks and the US election. Who is that person?
1 greetingearthlings 2016-10-22
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26263
This is one of the emails that was supposedly forged. But it was a viral email and you can see that it's the exact same as the one here: https://imgur.com/gallery/1J4ONsD
0 ersatz_substitutes 2016-10-22
Yeah, I saw that email in the body of this post, but I have no clue why it's included. I don't know who Peter Mattingly is, and I don't know why I should care that he's trying to sell his beanie baby collection at an absurd price(other than its a pretty funny email). I tried googling his name, as well as including dozens of other keywords, but I'm not finding anything useful.
0 flytheflag 2016-10-22
I just did a reverse image on the beanie-babies.jpg attachment.
Tineye search results give exact match
-The earliest recorded instance of use is from here:
http://thespeechroomnews.com/
Image: Beanie-Baby-creator-6.jpg
Page: tag/articulation
Crawled on 2014-10-24
Idk what to think atm. I think I've found a couple more bogus emails too will update as soon as I reorganise the insane number of tabs I have open and have a chance to check them properly.
edit: Nope, need sleepy, turning it over to community.
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23748
Weird one, stood out to me.
-1 ersatz_substitutes 2016-10-22
Good for you but that means nothing to me. I clearly don't know who Peter Mattingly is, and why his beanie baby collection has anything to do with this fucking election.
1 flytheflag 2016-10-22
Because the original upload to that website above was a year earlier by [name redacted] who is a woman. This means that Peter Mattingly is a likely a fiction in one of two contexts, either from a viral "creation" of somebody at a date prior to the sending of the email and release of the leak or as part of it. If you can prove the first part your much closer to disproving the second. Which is more than anything else so far in terms of physical verification. That's why.
-1 [deleted] 2016-10-22
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1 flytheflag 2016-10-22
Shill confirmed.
0 ersatz_substitutes 2016-10-22
I was just getting fucking frustrated of my clearly expressed question being ignore. You kept rambling on like an idiot about how he's actually fake blah blah blah, when I obviously had no clue why I should fucking care.
1 SovereignMan 2016-10-22
Rule 10. No personal attacks. Removed. 1st warning.
4 lynnlikely 2016-10-22
Interview with Michael Best, state of Wikileaks and Assange: https://youtu.be/KXim4Zdacy0
4 Ahem_Sure 2016-10-22
Let's not jump the gun until we have something verified false. We are some of the only people putting wikileaks out there. If we get nervous about dong that they have won. Creating doubt is as good for the establishment as actually getting into the releases.
What email is even questionable so far?
1 DocturDread 2016-10-22
None. Twitter is suspicious. Wikileaks lives on. Looking forward to 16. Stay safe everyone. Be good.
2 flytheflag 2016-10-22
If we continue to do the due diligence and dig hard subjecting them absolute scrutiny and still find nothing that's great in my book! I'm actually very surprised by the number of people who are against even looking as you'd think they'd want to be proved right as to the provenance of the releases.
2 DocturDread 2016-10-22
typical cabal tactics of infiltrate, divide, and deceive. They will soon learn of the consequences of such actions. Stay strong everyone.
3 I-o-n-i-x 2016-10-22
8enjAm1N f1scH831n => Benjamin Fischbein
I wasn't familiar with the name, so I did some quick google work. His twitter feed is HEAVILY pro-hillary/anti-trump, probably CTR involved.
Developed an online tool called SparkPoint as an "Online Community Mobilization Tool". He is/was the VP of BlastRoots, which offered a service which uses "Technology and Data to Optimize Public Affairs". BlastRoots was acquired by BIS Global in 2015, but that's mostly a dead end.
I'm sure both of the software tools he's been involved with are right up CTR's alley as far as a project management system for their heinous agenda. Who better to set up/manage those systems than the founder himself?
Not sure what it means coming from wikileaks, didn't find anything in the Podesta e-mails.
1 DocturDread 2016-10-22
Very interesting development. Updated. Thanks brother.
1 founthead 2016-10-22
Digital Director @ CTR The US LinkedIn has been removed, but this is available
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fischbein
3 Telenerd 2016-10-22
It's possible it's one of his people tweeting now that he can't?
2 [deleted] 2016-10-22
Benjamin Fisch_____? Anyone?
1 KobilaSuzi 2016-10-22
Why do people write stuff like that?
10 andredawson 2016-10-22
Because if your eyes are open you see that shit is about to hit the fan.
-10 KobilaSuzi 2016-10-22
So treating us like children will make a difference?
-1 [deleted] 2016-10-22
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1 SovereignMan 2016-10-22
Rules 4 & 10. Removed. Final warning.
-3 m3mb3r5h1p_r3v0k3d 2016-10-22
It's a code. That's all I will say about.
1 ruleten 2016-10-22
I wish people would stop accrediting tweets to Trump and Hillary when they didn't sign them.
Only tweets signed - H are actually written by Hillary, otherwise they were probably crafted by one of her social media cronies like Karen Civil.
2 Skybluvalleykid 2016-10-22
3 Downvotes?
1 ruleten 2016-10-22
my thoughts exactly ...
2 Skybluvalleykid 2016-10-22
I just don't understand why that would be downvote worthy haha
1 Ronaldjpierce 2016-10-22
Thanks for the thanks!
1 crazylegs99 2016-10-22
Interesting....https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/58uoxh/fyi_mentioning_benjamin_fischbein_on_pol_results/
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1 DocturDread 2016-10-22
Updated. very interesting indeed.
1 PrincessScar 2016-10-22
I think Wikileaks was using the code "help him" in reference to, now dead, Gavin MacFayden.
0 inbetweentime 2016-10-22
Wikileaks site was also down a bunch last night/this morning. And that beanie babies email. I'm seriously starting to suspect they've been compromised and the emails have been tampered/mixed in order to discredit them all.
Honestly, can you even think of a better plan if you're clint0n?
0 Notashillll 2016-10-22
you're saying the same shit that /r/wikileaks is now saying, after being compromised. /r/conspiracy is about to fall to CTR?
0 AwayWeGo112 2016-10-22
Put the update at the top
0 DocturDread 2016-10-22
roger that!
0 AwayWeGo112 2016-10-22
uda man. please be ok julian
0 Grego888 2016-10-22
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/new-world-hackers-claims-responsibility-internet-disruption-cyberattack/?client=ms-android-motorola No real hacker group Would call them selves new world hackers. This is obvious.
1 DocturDread 2016-10-22
Fake news for the sleepers.
-1 fat_osvaldo 2016-10-22
Why should we trust this over Wikileaks's vetting process? And why is this being spammed across subs now?
4 KingJames19 2016-10-22
It's CTR. If they claim wikileaks is compromised they can claim the same with their leaks. Don't buy into it
0 digiorno 2016-10-22
My first thought... The emails are odd but then again whose to say his email wasn't hacked at some point back in the day and he fixed it before the leaks. We've all been sent odd emails from family members followed by "sorry everyone my email was hacked".
-1 trinsic-paridiom 2016-10-22
Good point.
-2 [deleted] 2016-10-22
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-3 sunflowerfreedom 2016-10-22
daily reminder that wikileaks/assange is "annoyed" by 9/11 truthers and quiet on israel
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-07-22/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-annoyed-911-truth
http://www.maskofzion.com/2010/10/wikileaks-is-zionist-poison.html
http://wariscrime.com/new/assange-admits-wikileaks-a-fraud-run-for-israel/
I can't say for sure what's going on with WL/Assange, what they're really about, just asking people to ask questions and do research
question Snowden too: http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/06/25/snowden-an-exercise-in-disinformation/
-4 911bodysnatchers322 2016-10-22
Does this mean Obama and Hillary have taken over Wikileaks and are now fakeleaking to control the conversation?
So can we mark any leaks from this point on as suspect leaks?
I hope people had archive.is'ing the podesta emails that were already leaked. Or screenshotted
7 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Nobody buys what??? Did HRC not say that joke at the Al Smith Dinner, then tweet the exact same joke, in quotes no less, via Twitter??? Because there's actual video and written proof of all those things I just said. Are you denying that that was the same verbatim joke she said at the Al Smith Dinner? Did you even watch it? I did. Would you like me to link the video from the Al Smith Dinner for proof as well?
13 jjcooli0h 2016-10-22
The problem with the version of dkimverify being run on that website is that it has an unfixed bug.
The DKIM signature verification fails if message Content-Type is: multipart/alternative
As you can see in the 25859 email:
So that's really a false negative.
Yeah OK that's great but WHY is that happening?
Well, the (unfixed) problem seems to be that internally, in the code, write() will flush the stream after transcoding the content in cases where the content is not already in its target encoding. So what happens is that an extra '\n' is added when being flushed and the buffer doesn't end with a '\n', while the canonicalization methods only require to add a '\n' if the body DOES NOT end with a '\r\n'.
In the current version, as the body is being written when the last line was not a newline ('\n') is a state which can be true even if we are not yet at the end of the body.
The unfortunate reality is that these kind of failures are relatively common with DKIM (that problem was only really noticed a year ago, for example).
tl;dr
—> Newline problems \n vs \r\n
…the bane of programming for over 3 decades. People shouldn't get overly excited if something fails, because false negatives aren't a rare thing when you have all of these permutations of OS systems, MIME encoding types, line endings, etc.
The easiest emails to verify will usually be ones between relatively few people (or if a lot of people, then with most of them using say, Gmail or Yahoo).
Personally, I've seen a lot of issues when emails have an intermixture of 7-bit and 8-bit encodings, that type of thing tends to f* things up pretty easy.
Anyway hope that helps. Sorry again for not double-checking the website verifier at first - I was just in a rush.
Thanks for noticing that, I'll probably update the post with a link to these comments here for anyone having problems.
If you find anything good and the verification thing is being wonky, I'd be happy to take a look. Just send me a PM or page me to the thread and I'll check it out~
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
She made the joke because she knew they were taking Assange and wikileaks. Get it? She wouldn't have mentioned wikileaks. She just wouldn't have. No way.
1 thesadpumpkin 2016-10-22
Okay, that's fair. I wish you would have said that in the first place, that it's suspect because she made a joke about WikiLeaks at the dinner and that's what was weird about it. I understand the concern, but HRC was technically the first person to mention Wikileaks at the third debate when all Wallace's question was about was are you a fan of open borders. Yes, she did it to get in front of it and spin it to being about Russia, but she still didn't need to bring them up. After reading a lot of the Podesta emails, I think her staff is just shit at jokes and humor. Most of her jokes that night weren't funny. I guess I'm still not convinced this is a missing piece of the puzzle.
9 911bodysnatchers322 2016-10-22
Until a new regime is installed and then considers them treasonous, lines them up and shoots them.
Actualy with military, people are expensive, so they will probably put them into an LSD torture tank for a few weeks and give them a new identity through constant abuse to dissociate them into a new self. So it's only the top people who will be shot / hung
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
How many times has Hillary Clinton said the word wikileaks before this? How much effort has been put in to bury wikileaks from MSM reporting? How much damaging info has wikileaks exposed?
-1 gs2549 2016-10-22
Oh yeah, btw if you actually aren't CTR and think I'm CTR, CHECK MY POST HISTORY. If you still accuse me of being CTR after checking my post history then I know you are CTR and completely full of shit.
Your post history indicates that you did not give a shit about r/conspiracy prior to this story breaking, kinda guessing you found this on accident and decided to try and keep people's faith in Wikileaks alive despite all evidence pointing towards Julian Assange and Wikileaks both being compromised. Oh yeah, I took the red pill a long time ago, so yeah, at least I sound like conspiracy theorist in my post, you definitely aren't one to question much and don't sound like a conspiracy theorist either, besides the general sentiment among conspiracy theorists that something is amuck regarding Wikileaks. Oh yeah, and if you cite that I haven't been coming to r/conspiracy that long, I kept search conspiracy theory in the front page search box, once I finally tried just conspiracy months later, I found what would become my primary news source.
1 andredawson 2016-10-22
Imagine if they only release the non-damaging HRC emails? Imagine if they release manufactured emails that make trump look bad?
1 ajouis 2016-10-22
No it wasn't, ever heard of positive reinforcement? everytime you see something that agrees with your theory you only remember that, wikileaks is as harsh on hillary as always, and the difference of tone is easy to explain, assange was kept out from moderating it so it's skewed toward the other guy, and that shows, but if you look at the posts before there was already this bias (in short pro green) since a long time, just more diluted.
1 ajouis 2016-10-22
clearly not, I would have known by now
1 TheUltimateSalesman 2016-10-22
yup.
2 Skybluvalleykid 2016-10-22
I just don't understand why that would be downvote worthy haha
1 ajouis 2016-10-22
A tweet signed JA, look at it, that was pure assange style