RIP /r/Wikileaks
239 2016-10-22 by inbetweentime
Just in case you missed it, amidst all the current controversy they added 2 new mods yesterday "because they volunteered". I was among many who questioned their method and motives for doing so.
Today, they added more new mods and I posted this comment: https://np.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58vgho/lets_clear_up_some_rumors/d93iyg8/?context=3
Now I'm banned. I inquired what the reason was and got this response.
RIP /r/Wikileaks. You and /r/Politics can share a grave.
Edit: Well, update, /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway removed my ban, then I inquired about my ban, and now I'm banned again.
So I'm getting more curious as to why our newest moderator here in /r/conspiracy is so complicit in the spectacle over at /r/wikileaks. As he/she said themselves, they were brought on board there for "oversight".
75 comments
36 [deleted] 2016-10-22
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4 SQUID_FUCKER 2016-10-22
I've been banned from several subreddits for simply questioning the post. Wikileaks & The_Donald being the two most recent. It's ludicrous that you can't have an actual discussion anymore without being banned in some subreddits.
2 captaincarb 2016-10-22
r/The_donald is a pro donald trump subreddit. If you're not supporting donald trump there they will ban you
r/politics is supposed to be a non partisan board where discourse takes place (it's not)
if you go to r/hillaryclinton and post anything questioning her you're immediately banned. I was banned from there for saying "bring them to heel" litterally banned for quoting the person the board is named after
-3 No_stop_signs 2016-10-22
Lol, you want the same standard of impartial moderating and rational discussion on the_donald as you do of wikileaks? How amazingly impartial of you, thank you for correcting the record.
1 cooperino16 2016-10-22
He's raising an issue of group labeling. Arguably a serious problem for this website. This activity shares a common thread with fascism and labels certain/groups of people, making it easier to discredit the individual(s). For example: I was personally banned from r/offmychest for commenting one time in r/The_Donald. My comment was about journalism. It wasn't even political. Nonetheless i was issued a ban for participating in a community that "propagates hate".
I'm not saying T_D doesn't have bigots. In fact, I'm saying a lot of subs have bigots, including r/politics. The very definition of bigot is intolerance of those who hold a differing opinion of you. But yet users of T_D are subject to a site wide ban for merely mentioning r/politics, even to praise it.
I said nothing hateful or even offensive, but i got banned. Its extremely hypocritical of these subs to subvert other people because of differing opinions. To label them an X,Y, or Z group. That's how fascism works. It starts small. A few here, a few there. But the goal is hyper sensitivity. Labeling others little by little, until everyone participating has chosen a side. And it becomes normal.
Would you agree that you should be labeled for simply commenting in r/conspiracy because a few people said some anti semitic bullshit? I doubt it. Thats what this is about. It's about getting a narrative going pointed toward groups of people and labeling them. Future voters or redditers won't participate in these labeled groups for fear of exile. No matter how smart and poignant some of their submissions/opinions.
It's a long time problem with democrats and republicans. As an ex dem, i myself fell victim to this line of thought until i started to see the hypocrisy of the party. That's not to say I'm a republican, just that i no longer dismiss others ideas so quickly simply because they align with a different group of people.
34 BeardedGirl 2016-10-22
Is this the /r/wikileaks banned users club?
33 BasedFACT 2016-10-22
That's how /r/politics was taken over .. By banning the real user base and bringing in shills
10 bananapeel 2016-10-22
Same in /r/news. I am perma-banned and muted from messaging the mods.
11 IsHanselHotRightNow 2016-10-22
Lol how many of us are there?? I was so pissed I made a self-post about it.
Proof they banned me for some pretty tame question
1 logga 2016-10-22
I got banned as well for pretty much nothing. They are getting rid of the core user base for sure.
26 V1NC3NZ0 2016-10-22
I just got banned, simply for asking for an open dialogue about the matter. Was told it was to clear the trolls. So I asked why ban people for legitimate concerns. Then, boom. Banned. What a fucking shit-show.
24 partyjess 2016-10-22
I suspect this subreddit is under assault as well. They deleted a Wikileaks critical post as duplicate that wasn't.
I'm a mod on another popular subreddit (investing related) so I know how to search for duplicate posts.
9 Orangutan 2016-10-22
Supposedly some of the mods are now sharing responsibilities here and there.
1 mastigia 2016-10-22
I'm gonna have to go out on a limb and guess wsb haha.
1 partyjess 2016-10-22
YOLO $JNUG to the moon, GFY 😂
2 mastigia 2016-10-22
Brb, gonna refi my moped to refill my rh acct so I can get in on this.
Love that place.
1 partyjess 2016-10-22
All my student loan money is going to DD on DWTI in the morning
1 mastigia 2016-10-22
Those are the best ones. And foscmeow. Oh man
1 partyjess 2016-10-22
You mean inverse fosc, you have 13.7 minutes to buy $YUM
1 logga 2016-10-22
There is a new conspiracy subreddit set up in case we need to move and as an alternative. /r/conspirators
Happy cake day btw.
23 SpryAmoeba 2016-10-22
one of the new mods is also a mod for r/conspiracy
AssuredlyAThrowAway (220715) 27 minutes ago full permissions
33 TooropSmith 2016-10-22
He's a mod for all of these...
/r/worldnews /r/conspiracy /r/PublicFreakout /r/WikiLeaks /r/verypunny /r/DNCleaks /r/Libraries /r/newsbloopers /r/altnewz /r/CasualTodayILearned /r/VitaPiracy /r/dickgirlsNSFW /r/conspiracydocumentary /r/abcqwerty123 /r/Oppression /r/uncensorship /r/Stuff /r/ModerationLog /r/aaronswartz /r/snew /r/GasTheSnooNSFW /r/cuteasiansNSFW /r/Albumleaks /r/MockRedditAdmins /r/RemovedCommentsNSFW /r/explain_undelete /r/altnews /r/bestofundelete /r/timetostartanew /r/TiffanyCappotelli /r/ConspiracyAMA /r/BridgeEngineers /r/publicmodlogs /r/tragedyandhope /r/HighEndGlass /r/PAOT /r/VitaBackUps /r/professional /r/offcourse /r/SuperiorEurope /r/TrueOppression /r/YouTubeHallOfFame /r/nucensorship /r/GazaConflict /r/savethesub /r/Assuredlyathrowaway /r/outofthepoop /r/woeldnews /r/ResearchAssistance /r/InternetHallofFame /r/TheShrineOfKeroro /r/axolotl_peyotlwatch /r/HotTubPorn /r/ParadoxIsaCuck /r/rdvisacuck /r/BadSomething /r/BannedFromBanned /r/BigHairyChickens /r/DidLeoWinAnOscarYet /r/FoundTheSJW /r/isfreespeechracist /r/JesusMan /r/ModOversightCommittee /r/ReadDeadRetribution /r/redditbugs /r/ShirtVoatSays /r/SmokePeopleHate /r/stopinternetbullying /r/themindofassuredly /r/trestingyoururlsNSFW /r/Desperados /r/GoldAndWhite /r/PutEmInACoffin /r/thabutton /r/ThingsMyKinSaid
45 Nylarthalotep_Dream 2016-10-22
Never trust someone who mods for worldnews
28 IsHanselHotRightNow 2016-10-22
....almost like he's paid to be a mod?
5 axolotl_peyotl 2016-10-22
/r/axolotl_peyotlwatch
o_O
1 Outofmany 2016-10-22
As a subscriber to r/axolotl_peyotl this was definitely a WTF moment. Shit is definitely weird right now..
2 juushii 2016-10-22
/r/dickgirls?
Don't worry, they're a troll.
4 THE_Masters 2016-10-22
We've been comprised. The canary is gone I repeat the canary is gone. Time to launch a full scale witch hunt on that motherfucker fuck the rules! They ain't playing by them so we shouldn't either.
3 RottenC 2016-10-22
Its been quite awhile since the canary has been removed.
2 ragecry 2016-10-22
you might enjoy
5 AntiHasbaraUnit 2016-10-22
i can never forgive the jew sjw redditors such as those poopeaters at r/topmindsofreddit for ruining moose archives.
0 inbetweentime 2016-10-22
And they're very much involved in the spectacle over there
17 Exec99 2016-10-22
Well guys you witnessed first hand how truth gets hidden. Remember it and let other people know.
13 Zamtro 2016-10-22
Assange internet cut by external parties. Armed forces outside Equadorian embassy. CHEMICAL ATTACK (possibly staged, or government conspiracy) in airport at the same time [NOT REPORTED IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA; odd considering threat of terrorism, no?]. Wikileaks Reddit and Twitter (most likely) compromised. FBI/CIA now using social media to taint the name of Wikileaks. USA blames internet outages on Russia ahead of its planned cyber war on Russia.
I'd say we have strong (albeit circumstancial) evidence to believe Julian has been captured and taken into custody (in US) and is either being tortured, or is dead. We won't find proof of this till after November 15th, when Clinton is elected US president.
This is war. #showusjulian
4 crazylegs99 2016-10-22
Don't forget the CIA rendition plane showing up in the area during thst time via tracking info
2 Oronare 2016-10-22
Just an FYI, there were never any armed forces outside the Ecuadorian embassy. Friends of mine in the next street over told me they saw nothing unusual, and there were videos/pics posted almost immediately as the event happened with no unusual activity. If you have pics/video to the contrary you should post them however, needs to be out there.
1 sdko 2016-10-22
fyi - the armed forces part isn't true. except that there are always a few armed diplomatic protection force officers by most large embassies.
1 logga 2016-10-22
Yet when you bring it up you get berated for it. I fear that reddit may be nearing the end unless we can have full transparency inc mod logs on subs. Bringing it up in r/Wikileaks got me banned/
11 mrsuns10 2016-10-22
I just hope Assange is still alive
6 inbetweentime 2016-10-22
This. This is why I'm concerned about all this. Why is all this weird Wikileaks shit happening all at once??
5 SQUID_FUCKER 2016-10-22
You gotta put the Pawns in place before you take the King.
10 SernyRanders 2016-10-22
I'm also banned for whatever reason,I didn't say anything ban worthy...
10 inbetweentime 2016-10-22
What I can gather from my correspondence there over the past 24 hours, is that new mod /u/Here4Popcorn is blanket banning anyone who questions anything, while the new mod takeover itself was facilitated by /u/Devistator
6 Zamtro 2016-10-22
Is it possible that all (major) parties involved in Wikileaks have been compromised?
-19 [deleted] 2016-10-22
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17 inbetweentime 2016-10-22
Lol. What we have is people questioning a foolish method of adding new moderators, then these new moderators erasing and banning the people who questioned it.
Do you really think we're this stupid?
8 Exec99 2016-10-22
What we have is someone trying to correct the Record.
5 WorkingLikaBoss 2016-10-22
I get it, they plant the "CTR staff message" with concern trolling (the oddest sort of trolling) in order to plant a scarecrow they can knock down when it comes to start banning legitimate users.
1 WorkingLikaBoss 2016-10-22
In case anyone missed the comment above me, it was the new mod saying that he/she banned the OP for concern trolling. They knew that the term concern trolling would stick out in our minds like a sore thumb, while the concern about the source or legitimacy of the staff note would fade.
2 IsHanselHotRightNow 2016-10-22
Why was I banned?
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/58w8nl/banned_from_rwikileaks_for_asking_for_more/
8 ragegenx 2016-10-22
Time to go to voat.co
6 ScrapmasterFlex 2016-10-22
Also banned for making a (fairly benign, I mean come on, ) post on the "let's have a discussion" post
6 TooropSmith 2016-10-22
I was just banned too...
http://imgur.com/XCW5awL
http://imgur.com/ySmI1xq
But I have no idea why? I then asked the mods why I've been banned and then they muted me... I don't even use Reddit that much.
6 sheasie 2016-10-22
i just created:
/r/wikileaks_org
let's switch. i pledge a no shills/no trolls/pro-wikileaks forum.
cheers.
3 JHVH_UNO 2016-10-22
/r/wikileaks has never been useful, best to ignore it.
3 DimensionsIntertwine 2016-10-22
https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/58vgho/lets_clear_up_some_rumors/
3 SQUID_FUCKER 2016-10-22
Holy shit, the entire post is locked down now. Not even attempting to be discrete about it.
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3 Orangutan 2016-10-22
Strangely enough I got those same type of messages from The_Donald subreddit as well, after minor critique. The psy op might be larger than we think in this thing and the opposition larger than many imagine. By the way your original comment is no longer showing up.
Here's some background on the way Reddit has gone over the years:
How Reddit Was Destroyed
2 [deleted] 2016-10-22
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5 Putin_loves_cats 2016-10-22
Don't suggest brigading, that will hurt our sub.
1 inbetweentime 2016-10-22
I think /u/SmokeyBare meant the hostile takeover by the new mods.
1 Putin_loves_cats 2016-10-22
They edited their original comment, so never mind.
2 Time2SinTime2Live 2016-10-22
I was also banned.
2 magnora7 2016-10-22
Another one bites the dust. Not many usable subs left on reddit, these days. Sad sad sad
2 RideTheHasselHoff 2016-10-22
r/politics1 is doing well. We're on the way up.
2 n0ns3ns3102 2016-10-22
I feel this youtube channel is suspect also.. a few days it posted videos of Assange's 2012 balcony speech as NEW!! and hundreds of old videos in the last week or so.. (maybe to make the channel seem more valid at first glance?)
Ive posted this around a few places and its been mostly dismissed.. maybe Im being paranoid, but i thought it was worth sharing.
2 austenten 2016-10-22
Its not about the reddit sub, it's about Assange and his direct reports. We hope you are all still well.
1 24811812513198111524 2016-10-22
people say the ones saying wikileaks has been compromised are the shills but those people saying that are probably the ones spreading misinformation
or something
1 onlyhere4trump 2016-10-22
With this same post in r/Wikileaks, it is nothing but concern trolling about "video proof with time stamp or it means nothing" , "hey guys, I don't think we can trust theses leaks" and "I'm worried these aren't going be enough to help Trump" bs. It has left the realm of Wikileaks to CTR smear of smearing Wikileaks and promoting Hillary Clinton and demoralizing Trump supporters. Even dncleaks is doing the same behavior. I can't wait for this election to be over and some normalcy can resume. Everywhere is paid shills.
1 Golisten2LennyWhite 2016-10-22
I wish more people here realized the first reddit exodus was from conspiracy to whoaverse (now voat) years ago
-16 Here4Popcorn 2016-10-22
In case you're curious we also added a r/Conspiracy moderator. Stop trying to make something out of nothing.
11 inbetweentime 2016-10-22
You sure work efficiently. In 2 hours of being a mod you've managed to begin to discredit an entire subreddit.
9 SernyRanders 2016-10-22
Not everyone was trolling in the last days, I still don't understand why I was banned, I even welcomed the changes.
Banning people without giving a reason or a chance to respond is not ok, even for a "clean up" mission.
6 FL00P 2016-10-22
From your sticky post. Can you give any evidence of this? Also why did you make a subreddit https://np.reddit.com/r/wl2/? WikiLeaks2?
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6 FL00P 2016-10-22
You ignored my first question. I'm hesitant to ask another because you might ignore one or both. Anyways, you keep using the term "concern troll". Are you talking about CTR people? Or are you labeling people with legitimate concerns in order to silence them?
Also how do you know CTR is "attempting to muddy the waters"? You're stating that as fact but giving no evidence. Something the previous two new mods tried hard to fight.
-3 staticfire 2016-10-22
/u/Here4Popcorn is a mod at /r/DNCLeaks and I have been following that sub since the first batch of wikileaks was released. While I feel like whats going on at /r/wikileaks is weird /u/Here4Popcorn has not given me a reason to distrust him.
8 FL00P 2016-10-22
I have a few reasons to distrust him, which is why I asked the questions he's ignored. This is a recent comment of his:
He gets to decide that it's made up drama, while also refraiming the situation. Instead of "possible takeover of an entire organization", it's just "mod drama". Instead of legitimate concerns and questions, they are "concern trolls" focusing on "made up drama". Even if it's made up, the rules of r/WikiLeaks still say
People have questions related to WikiLeaks, and you're banning them for it. That raises red flags and causes more people to ask questions...and then get banned.
1 mastigia 2016-10-22
Those are the best ones. And foscmeow. Oh man