but why has r/conspiracy remained relatively free to voice opinions and post articles that are clearly against the current mainstream narratives pushed by government and media?

Because instead of taking this sub over, they have turned public opinion against it. Anything that comes from /r/conspiracy is immediately laughed at and shouted down. Just as good as taking it over. Probably better, in fact, because you don't have to waste resources managing it.

One guy thought I was against this sub cuz I commented "r/conspiracy" as a venue for free speech and where r/wikileaks ppl could come to. I was dead serious

yep. there's so much effort to discredit anything here. i see high-effort, quality posts here all the time - but i know i could never link these to friends or anything without looking like a joke.

the sleepers have been trained to knee-jerk to any mention of "conspiracy theory" we are painted as outsiders on the fringe of the herd (and acceptable society) and a wee bit crazy and who wants to be that right!

it's hilarious and when people wake up, as they do, everyday, increasingly often these days, they eventually have a good laugh about their former selves and how duped they were

You're right in that they have turned public opinion against the sub. However, it is unwise to think that they haven't already infiltrated the subs. This place is a hotspot and it is unlikely that there isn't manipulation of articles and especially text posts offering new opinions on the political events.

seriously. We need this sub Reddit. I'm not sure what to do if this gets taken out or compromised. We might need to all go back to IRC.

I love talking to your wife too ^jk

Not their wife, but fancy seeing you here!

And so the plot thickens

you made me laugh too TYTY

Welp, I am one of those two things but I will not reveal which I am. Stay tune to the next wikileaks email dump to find out 😅

madmen

you followed by ....

Your wife has been compromised. Don't trust anyone.

you made me laugh TY

absolute

Voat /v/conspiracy

I've been working on it for a few months now, after seeing what's happened over the past few weeks I've been ramping up development.

Currently signup/log in is done, sub creation is done, post creation is pretty much done. It's also fully mobile responsive. I just need to iron out a few kinks in commenting and get upvotes working and It's good to go small scale.

I think it's in the better interests of TPTB to (mostly) leave this sub alone. Conspiracy theorists are thought by many to be tinfoil hat crazies, so corralling certain discussions into this area gives them a nearly automatic, desirable taint to their credibility.

That said, I do think this sub has its plants and shills, and I think the good ones have been around for a while, posting just enough plausible material that when it comes time to divert and obfuscate (when TPTB decide that the truths being tossed around hit a little too close to home), people trust them. PSYOPS programs are forward-thinking and clever, after all.

I don't really know that anything can be done about it. Trust your intuition, I guess, and try your best to filter the truth from the half-truths and outright lies.

TPTB? Sorry seems important to know.

Short for "The Powers That Be". Those people at the top, running the show. Or aliens. Or the lords of our simulation. Or whatever you believe.

Oh I'm absolutely insane, and hang out here, and hear voices(although they usually have good advice like, pay attention to the road, and don't try to mess with those orange wires without gloves.) I'm also the worst living example of the effectiveness and safety of vaccines as I was fully vaccinated and have a host of mental and physical issues.

I was going to make a post for this but I'll start here... What do /r/Conspiracy and /r/Wikileaks have in common? Moderators! Or one at least, and they happen to be involved in the spectacle at /r/Wikileaks.

Today I got banned then unbanned from /r/Wikileaks, went back and saw this stickied post by /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway claiming they have removed the new mods. Since this is a lie, and they've instead added even more new mods (ironically /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway is one of them), I made this thread asking for some accountability.

The thread was deleted by another mod - one of the new additions.

Now, I know /r/conspiracy is a pretty transparent sub and I think the moderators here have done a great job.

But we need answers as requested above. And I wouldn't mind an explanation from /u/AssuredlyAThrowAway as to what his level of involvement in the situation at /r/wikileaks is, since they're also one of the newest moderators here.

He's a jesuit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RomeRules/comments/56vmlo/rconspiracy_moderator_uassuredlyathrowaway_posts/?st=iumfnehk&sh=768166ff

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I was asked to join /r/wikileaks to do oversight of their mod team and ensure the free flow of information is upheld as the driving ethos behind all moderation decisions on that subreddit.

Furthermore, from what I understand two moderators had resigned from the team as I was being brought on a few hours ago. But one of the mods who tendered their resignation has yet to leave the team. As I am the lowest person on the mod team, I do not have the ability to remove the mod on my own and will have to wait for a more senior mod to become active tomorrow.

I was asked to join /r/wikileaks to do oversight of their mod team

By whom... What kind of community asks a newcomer to oversee them?

As I said, the mod list at /r/wikileaks shows 5 new mods today, and you're one of them. If you're not deleting posts there yourself, I'd like to know why you're not doing anything about the blatant censorship that's being exercised by the other new mods over there?

Edit: I'm either shadowbanned there, or my posts are being deleted. Something's starting to smell bad in here..

He never answered. Who asked him? ?

Got 'em.

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okay bot I fixed it

For what it is worth...

I just started a new sub... /r/ConSpiritOrs... awful name, I know.

So far, I am the only Mod. I am looking at taking on new mods, but it will be under a vetting process.

The sub has the same guidelines and protocols as /r/Conspiracy. Literally, I copied and pasted their guidelines onto my sub.

I set it up as precautionary in case this sub does get hit hard by shills, CTR, or if the mods become compromised.

Anyone is free to join in on the discussion over there, but I am warning you, the place is a bit of a wreck and is a ghost town (as of now). I am not the best with building subs (I have never been a moderator before) and the format does need some sprucing up.

I am not trying to replace /r/Conspiracy, but I am just offering a low-key alternative should this place get ransacked.

EDIT: I would get the name of my own subreddit wrong... fixed now. Sorry.

"Sub has been removed or set to private "

Try it again after my OP edit. Got the name of my sub wrong.

Sweet it works now, subscribed just in case

I'd kinda like to see one about the Con's Piracy written out as /r/ConsPiracy. That after all is what our main complaint is. I guess it's a subtle difference though. :)

nice play Knight

i have a question for you??

It was borderline silly.I thought about deleting. Quesation? Just ask.

ok im gonna pm in a few i GOTTA feed my animals TY Knight

For whatever it's worth, I cannot access your sub from mobile. It just gives me the "something went wrong" page, with a redirect to my front page

Alright. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

I'll give it a look over in some of the settings, but like I said, it is going to be a rocky start for a bit. No idea how to format subs.

EDIT: Works for me on mobile...

EDIT 2: Got the name of my own sub wrong because I am an idiot. Try again :)

IL mod if u subscribe to r/limitedhangouts

I'd be down for helping, Canadian so I'm mostly impartial, but will admit if I was an American I'd be voting Trump. Pm me any questions if you want.

Although we are being spammed by endless disinformation and distraction, The mods here are a notch above the rest. They say that only two types of people can tell the truth, comedians and conspiracy "theorists" or I prefer conspiracy seekers. Keep your tinfoil hats on and wear them proud. r/conspiracy remains a bastion of truth in a world of illusions. Be safe everyone.

No seeking. Conspiracy analyst is better. Conspiracies happen everyday, every minute. " me and Johnny are gona steal that girls cat" that's a conspiracy

Exactly, I mean how else are we going to prove that the earth is flat. Just kidding. We are one of the last few places with very intelligent people who are permitted to freely discuss and pursue truth. We must continue to fight like the mighty Spartans , no matter how the odds are stacked, we mustn't go down without the fight of our lives because we might not ever get a second chance

Conspiracy enthusiast is what I go with.

Where do we all meet if this sub becomes compromised - top to bottom.

Serious Question.

What is our fail-safe? Like all sacred knowledge, if we don't create backup plans, it may be lost forever.

Perhaps we should Create an anonymous email account and share it with people that you value and respect on here. Or We could create our own website and if this gets shutdown we all meet there?

Let's treat this seriously and discuss our Plan NOW, before it's too late.

Being able to download all of the information on this sub at once to my computer would be nice.

Is there an IT guy that can explain how to do this? I've learned so much through this sub. I would hate for all the information to be lost one day.

I don't know the first thing about building a website (a secure one for that matter) - but I'm willing to contribute in more than one way. Maybe splitting the bill among the community then it wouldn't be such a hassle to fund.

We meet at the nearest walmart.

It won't.

But /r/C_S_T only has One Rule on the sidebar...

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Easy solution. Get a Vpn and secondary Reddit account, and check if you can see your primary accounts post.

Hum, I have some thinking to do. Is being shadow-banned(not for trolling) an indication that I might be onto something?

Hi =)

I can't speak for the other /r/conspiracy mods, or for any other subs, but in my experience the admins rarely interfere with affairs here, and when they do it's generally pretty reasonable (PI etc).

I do remain consistently fascinated at the number of shadowbanned users that still continue to post without even being aware of their situation. I always make sure to inform these poor souls of their predicament, but I feel like it shouldn't be my job to let them know.

why has r/conspiracy remained relatively free to voice opinions and post articles that are clearly against the current mainstream narratives pushed by government and media?

It's all in the brand. Say what you want about the CIA and the stigmatization of the "conspiracy theorist," but the perception of the word "conspiracy" itself has changed dramatically in our collective consciousness.

I think this stigma has helped /r/conspiracy. Language is really powerful. If this sub had any other name maybe things would be different.

The acceptance of /r/conspiracy by the "mainstream" requires a mass shift in consciousness regarding the word "conspiracy" itself. Until then, anything that comes from the realm of "conspiracy" is immediately compromised, ironically giving us certain freedoms in an otherwise increasingly restricted environment.

What would change that for you? What would turn this sub into r/politics?

There's not much incentive to buy off or infiltrate the mods of /r/conspiracy. Even if the sub grows and becomes more influential, as long the information is associated with "conspiracy" it will never be a threat in a society that has been conditioned to reject all things conspiracy.

Is it useful for TPTB to keep r/conspiracy as a panopticon for their lists of soft targets and detainees?

The identity of individuals is probably largely irrelevant...again, when controversial things that threaten TPTB are exposed, it helps them to have a significant community like /r/conspiracy discredit their exposure by merely associating the word "conspiracy" with the controversy.

How free do you feel to tell the truth about any of this?

I've learned a great deal from my time on reddit (almost a decade now, yikes). While I'm definitely concerned about the direction this is going, and I'm painfully aware that this website is not meant to be a bastion of free speech, I do have a great deal of faith in and respect for /r/conspiracy and what we've been able to accomplish.

U/axolotl_peyotl was an exception to that, but haven't seen much lately.

I definitely have needed some time to reflect and explore other pursuits, but I can't help but always be observing and speculating. And things have been so damn juicy that I can't help but be inspired to rejoin the fray...

No offense to the folks here at /r/conspiracy but I used to look at this sub as 99% garbage and 1% valuable. Since /r/politics has been taken over by CRT I find myself coming the the fucking CONSPIRACY subreddit to dig for unbiased information. Sure, there's still a lot of garbage - but it's slowly becoming what /r/politics used to be. WTF.

Upvoted because those are great questions, and they should be answered irrespective of the situation at r/wikileaks.

You should know, all of the new mods except julio08 are from r/DNCleaks and r/Conspiracy. You're literally asking the guy that got added as a mod in r/wikileaks in the past 24 hours about the new mod situation in r/wikileaks...

They certainly handled the whole situation ass-backwards, but I don't think the subreddit is compromised (regarding wikileaks twitter, however, I'm still skeptical, and will remain skeptical until I see proof of life).

Conspiracy has an energy of its own. And it's essence cannot be negated. Rather, it expands always. What you are seeing is attempts to contain it. It is not even accurately described by the word conspiracy. But I am sure you know what I mean and can identify what the energy of it is.

The last attempts to contain, and the charades and control mechanisms themselves become more apparent and lend more to conspiracy. The more they try to contain the more they end up validating the conspiracy.

Point is, we are close to critical mass. They don't want you to know that, how close we are. They are trying everything to prevent it.

upvoted

Same. Great questions. I too think the moderators here have done a great job and would be keen to hear some insights from them.

moderator AMA. Beat idea.

This please. Guys just don't sell yourselves...please

Thanks man :) I am.

Settle down

Why should I man? In your opinion?

Come on gang - let's pull together and keep the conspiracies unravelling!

You can undo it!

Just want to say that the mods here have done an absolutely phenomenal job. I've been here 3 years (and a conspiracy theory forum user for 12+ years) and I do not have a single complaint about the mods on /r/conspiracy.

Lol

This sub needs to stand. If it doesn't, we are out of luck. Not much left in the way of truth.

Hard to compete with bottomless pockets thou. At least give us a heads up, maybe give us a chance to match the offer before dumping us in a grave.

Please, any honest mod here. If you get compromised and we question it. Could you misspell a word in your reply. Perhaps misspell Assange as Asange. That way you can sell your soul to the devil and let us know in the process.

I have to apologize for not responding. I'm really not feeling well and am not up to writing a long post that I feel would be necessary. I do agree with the other two mods that have commented though.

Lol. Thanks.

At the time I posted this, there appear to be no responses from the mods. That's comforting...

This sub is compromised since the last debate. Sorry guys.

More like for the past 5 years...

Today a moderator warned me for calling an obvious shill account a shill. First time ever and I've been on this sub for years on other accounts. If you can't call out shills in /r/ conspiracy something is wrong. I have rustled their little narrative about wikileaks being compromised heh.

Rule 10 exists because otherwise virtually every argument ends up with a knee-jerk "shill" accusation. You could call it Shillwin's Law, the /r/conspiracy variant of Godwin's Law.

Shills exist, the mods are acutely aware of that, but actually proving someone is a shill (as opposed to the far more common useful idiot) is virtually impossible in a semi-anonymous environment like reddit. The word shill has therefore become a meaningless accusation that merely sets off pointless shit-slinging matches.

If you, or anybody else, has actual evidence that another user is a shill (ie a paid disinformant) please message the mods and we will take action.

I get that, but at the same time these people are taking over the sub with bullshit posts, the same comments on all posts, and now calling them out results in a warning from a mod. So what do we do? Let their narrative control the sub? What people don't understand is they want engagement. They want you to argue their point, because as long as people are riled up arguing about some manufactured story, it makes that story more legitimate. I have called out a few people before in other subs who actually ended up deleting their accounts. I researched before accusing and found out who they worked for. I remember both of their names. So I'm well aware of shills and how they operate.

this sub is considered important because they can release disinfo here that eventually filters out and changes perceptions. You need the fringe of society in order to muddy the waters of truth. There is truth here, but there is also lots of untruth and half-truth. Separating those is insurmountable for most people.

because we do not suffer fools

and also the threads move so fast trolls cant keep up

Another mod checking in.

I endorse what /u/axolotl_peyotl has said earlier, but will give my own responses too.

1. I am not aware of the admins ever attempting to influence the mods of /r/conspiracy. Certainly, no instructions have been given to me, or restrictions imposed on me by either reddit admins, or by any of the other mods.

2. We can thank the fact that the "top mod" (first name in the modlist) has allowed the active mods free rein to run the sub as a free-speech platform for discussing any and all topics in the conspiracy sphere. Ultimately, if the top mod had a change of heart and replaced all of the other mods, the sub would likely become something very different. Is /r/conspiracy allowed to exist because it is a pressure-release valve for conspiracy-minded people and a forum that can be observed by...whatever nefarious entities like to observe these things? I don't know, I hope not, but is there an alternative that is provably neither of those things that we could migrate to instead? Not that I'm aware of.

3. I think most of the active mods are genuinely interested in conspiracies, but we don't all believe the same conspiracy theories. What we do agree on is that we will maintain the ethos of this subreddit, and that means we don't curate content at a meta level - ie no conspiracy theory is off-limits. The userbase decides what gets to the front page, and what doesn't. I believe there's a paradox, here, in that if we were ever to ban unpopular subjects (eg Flat Earth) because some people complain "it makes the sub look bad", such an intervention would destroy the integrity of the sub.

I really enjoy this sub, and thought the same thing myself ... I'm still "new" here, but have been on message boards for about 15 years.
This sub is the first place i have ever seen people breaking down other people's posts ... I thought I was the only person who did that crap?! (The influx of short "weird" posts upsets me)
Hopefully enough of the original members hang around here for me to read and enjoy their posts.
Thanks.

Same. Great questions. I too think the moderators here have done a great job and would be keen to hear some insights from them.

Settle down

TPTB? Sorry seems important to know.

Oh I'm absolutely insane, and hang out here, and hear voices(although they usually have good advice like, pay attention to the road, and don't try to mess with those orange wires without gloves.) I'm also the worst living example of the effectiveness and safety of vaccines as I was fully vaccinated and have a host of mental and physical issues.

the sleepers have been trained to knee-jerk to any mention of "conspiracy theory" we are painted as outsiders on the fringe of the herd (and acceptable society) and a wee bit crazy and who wants to be that right!

it's hilarious and when people wake up, as they do, everyday, increasingly often these days, they eventually have a good laugh about their former selves and how duped they were

You're right in that they have turned public opinion against the sub. However, it is unwise to think that they haven't already infiltrated the subs. This place is a hotspot and it is unlikely that there isn't manipulation of articles and especially text posts offering new opinions on the political events.