How close to war do you think we are with Russia and China?

2  2016-10-24 by [deleted]

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I think we are closer to civil war than one with Russia or China.

Between whom?

It'll all die down after the election.

Not close. Proxy wars maybe but a big war is bad for global business these days and board rooms decide where wars take place

There are more ways to fight war than on a battlefield.

Nobody wants to get nuked. We aren't close to full scale war with either of them.

I don't think that will be the first measure. But what about troops on the ground?

It may happen in a proxy like syria, especially if she gets her no fly zone and starts shooting down Russian planes. I still don't think it will escalate into ww3.

Proxies are the way to go, unless you paralyze their government and infrastructure before an invasion.

Civil war 100%, war with China not really, war with Russia, probably too close.

Civil war is always just around the corner but never happens, according to some folks. I'm skeptical.

Are Russia. And China not allies?

Yes they are. Also with Iran.

It depends on how willing we are to rely on anti-nuke measures. The US laser based missile interception tech is getting pretty cool, and I'll bet some folk are dying to test it out publicly so people realize their nukes aren't going to save them.

If the US manages to provoke Russia into launching, and we have an actual defense system capable of dealing with it, then there will be a short international intervention with their government. Russia will get split up further.

China and the US won't fight. If someone came to China looking for assistance with attacking the US, they'd let us know. China and the US are symbiotes, and the corporate tussles and human rights pressures aren't of much account to either country's ruling body.

not going to happen

We are only close to war with Russia if they try to control what happens in Syria. If the US GOV tries to control the airspace Syria, then there will be war. There is no way to overthrow Assad without a no-fly-zone. So there will be war if the US tries to overthrow Assad.

We're trying to do that. We're already at war.

Neither side is preparing for an immediate war; there are always very clear signs in the markets and military when a major war is impending, and we are not seeing them. They are preparing for the intermediate range though.

That being said, the astrology is very good for such an event at this time; in-fact, it would be hard to choose a better time. Who's to say it won't go off accidentally while they are playing at brinksmanship, and maybe, in the tip of the pyramid, that's even the plan.

Astrology?

Can you speak to what those signs are?

I'm no economist, but it seems to me that there is "uncertainty" around the world, financially speaking - brexit, rise of China economically and geopolitically in their region of the world, fluctuating oil prices (okay, I might have made that one up), political unrest/questioning and push back to TPTB and the MSM here at home and around the world. I haven't heard much in-depth discussion about global war being a quelling force to that instability.

Any thoughts??

A lot of money would be moving to safety in a panicky way, away from the dollar in particular, and into traditional hedges like precious metals. The dollar is still quite strong, and the demand for precious metals is still low enough for the price to be suppressed by the PCBs, so it's plain the billionaires don't expect a major war any time soon.

It seems clear that the NWO private central banking empire is in trouble, and, since two previous world wars were fought to preserve it, we do have to expect another is in the offing if they can't save it in some other way. While that red panic button of major war grows more attractive, and the hawks are rattling their sabers, I think the tip of the pyramid is still groping around for other solutions at this point.

WW3, if it happens, surely does not match previous conventional wars. Do you expect a lot ground forces meeting for some large invasion forces?

The US cannot afford to fight a conventional war with another major power, let alone two; it is broke, and has used up all its credit fighting Israel's wars, and with war profiteering. Europe does not want either to pay for another major war, or be run over that Russian truck again, which is what will happen no matter who wins. When the US COG entity reaches the point where it thinks it can lay waste to Russia, China, and Iran, and survive to bring order out of chaos, it will not hesitate to hit that button.

China owns most of our debt, waging war on us would eliminate their interests. China wants to collect $$$

Already are at war with both.

It would have been a fun war if America elected Trump. Too bad they elected Hilarious Clinton, who knows nothing about war, except to pretend.

The US cannot afford to fight a conventional war with another major power, let alone two; it is broke, and has used up all its credit fighting Israel's wars, and with war profiteering. Europe does not want either to pay for another major war, or be run over that Russian truck again, which is what will happen no matter who wins. When the US COG entity reaches the point where it thinks it can lay waste to Russia, China, and Iran, and survive to bring order out of chaos, it will not hesitate to hit that button.