r/conspiracy: Nukes: real or not real?

Nukes: real or not real?

0 2016-10-26 by [deleted]

I have heard a few theories but nothing conclusive. The original footage that most of us have seen appears to be heavily edited and may include the use of model structures. What do you think? Are nukes real or not?

94 comments

4 UltraLisp 2016-10-26

Real.

What footage was edited?

I've questioned this too, but I think there's a bunch of Japanese folks who would be pretty adamant in saying they definitely exist.

1 Redchevron 2016-10-26

If the U.S. military was bombing your city back to the stone age, do you think it would matter much which bomb(s) they were using?

-2 Trendamony 2016-10-26

The footage I am referencing is the popular footage with the forests being blown around. I think it is in black and white. I am not sure that Japan proves it because they were carpet bombed - bombs which covered like 98% of those cities. Stay curious.

3 IGotKeysKeysKeys 2016-10-26

I say no because I don't believe it and I know how much our GOV has lied in the past I see no reason they aren't lying now. They likely did a bomb laced with chemicals or some sort of thing. I will likely eat down votes and I have no proof so I don't advertise my opinion on this. But I will say my gut makes me think it's fake because of how much propaganda there is surrounding it.

3 Exec99 2016-10-26

Honestly I think it's irrelevant whether they are real or not. They won't be used regardless. The psychopaths wouldn't worry about deaths but it would hurt too many assets and financial interests.

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

join us in the rabbit hole double9s

3 whosmav 2016-10-26

They are fake AF!

3 pholmq 2016-10-26

I'd say fake. Miles Mathis has a good article on this.

What convinces me the most is the same as with the moon landings. It has never been repeated. Hiroshima and Nagasaki was firebombed according to many witnesses, and they were rebuilt right away. The radiation didn't seem to be a problem. It was illegal to even talk about the bombing in US after the war, even though it was filmed and reported on. All the nuclear tests show signs of fakery and there are no independent measurements of seismic activity resulting from the explosions. No nuclear false flags and no accidents in 70 years. So FAKE it is. Nuclear plants I believe is real however.

2 Trendamony 2016-10-26

After careful examination, I have concluded that they are fake as well due to all of the oddities you have mentioned. The fact that it is taboo to even question their existence makes me think they are fake. Also, what I am learning is that most things associated with Albert Einstein are not real or have been grossly exaggerated - kind of like what we are seeing again with Stephen Hawking. Here is the article you are referencing: http://mileswmathis.com/trinity.pdf

2 Redchevron 2016-10-26

Because just like the moon landings, the entire current "cold war" world paradigm rests on these 2 preconceptions:

The west and the east are mortal enemies.
The have the means for mutually assured destruction.

If it were to become common knowledge that the same hand controls both east and west, and that there exists no single bomb great enough to level a city at once...

people might get ideas.

1 Trendamony 2016-10-26

The movie Snowpiercer does a good job covering the nature of this ruse.

1 pholmq 2016-10-26

Thanks for the link. Yes both Einstein and Hawking are questionable characters. I think Hawking is a shill and that he's even been replaced as Miles Mathis suggests

1 shmusko01 2016-10-26

s. It has never been repeated.

Lol that's some logic right there

.Hiroshima and Nagasaki was firebombed according to many witnesses

So these witnesses, were they experts in explosive ordanance?

.. The radiation didn't seem to be a problem.

Why would it have been?

.. It was illegal to even talk about the bombing in US after the war, even though it was filmed and reported on.

What a load of nonsense

.. All the nuclear tests show signs of fakery a

Such as?

.there are no independent measurements of seismic activity resulting from the explosions

Independent of what?

. No nuclear false flags and no accidents in 70 years

Point being?

2 [deleted] 2016-10-26

I'll take real for $500.

3 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

im sorry but you did not ask a question .....

my turn

WHAT is real for $500 Alex

2 [deleted] 2016-10-26

Doh. Damn rules. :)

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

;0 HAHA <===== nelson from the simpsons!

2 NecrosedVales 2016-10-26

Video that got me thinking about it.
https://youtu.be/sULjMjK5lCI

2 Ronaldjpierce 2016-10-26

It's good to question things but I think they are real. We have nuclear power, why wouldn't the bomb be real?

1 Redchevron 2016-10-26

Nuclear reactors operate on a simple principle. Radioactive decay produces heat, that boils water and powers a turbine.

The science behind "critical mass" reactions large enough to produce explosions of the alleged scale is highly questionable if you understand the necessary mechanisms.

In short, there isn't any way that nuclear bombs exist as purported.

-1 Trendamony 2016-10-26

I am not sure as I know very little about it. Do atoms naturally split as they decay? Wouldn't cause large random explosions somewhere?

1 Ronaldjpierce 2016-10-26

This guy had what seems to be a good answer to that, even though he is not a physicist. https://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-accidentally-split-an-atom-and-cause-a-nuclear-explosion

1 [deleted] 2016-10-26

Reminds me of this one. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565615/posts glad it never took off.

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

matty how do you know of such things [and keep outta the hands of children ]

2 [deleted] 2016-10-26

Try having mercury conjunct to one degree Pluto in Virgo and then you'll know. (in the 11th house of course. :))

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

oooo so you behind me with de pluto minez in leo [late] makes me a leophonic scorpio which means i like everyone dances around me as i manic my way through this mess

2 [deleted] 2016-10-26

Haha. Nice !

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

well i think so.....

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

11 th house ps is good hopes and wishes psychic house!

2 [deleted] 2016-10-26

I knew you were going to type that. :)

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

of course you did psychic one [so many planets so much MATTY VISIONARY process!]

2 [deleted] 2016-10-26

She will know in time. :) It was a truly frightening idea. People are nuts.

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

plus you tell her [especially knowwing where you all are at] any of her friends pull out "daddies" gun time to leave the room

my cousin in westchester made a point of teaching her daughter to be mindful of this...

2 [deleted] 2016-10-26

Oh yea it is the wild west up here in upstate NY. :). But we may be moving soon to Aitutaki. Love the beach. :)

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

well she felt very strongly about it me in nyc i never thought about it ....just saying

where btw is aitutaki ? sounds so exotic!

2 [deleted] 2016-10-26

South Pacific. Looks amazing. I have head best beaches on earth. And I lived in Hawaii so I'm excited to see...one day....

2 chickyrogue 2016-10-26

plus you cook thats a talent you can take everywhere

1 Cptcutter81 2016-10-26

We have literal mountains of evidence they exist, from Trinitite in New Mexico and across the Nevada test range, to the fucking-great still-radioactive holes left in Bikini and Enewetak Atolls, to the insane amounts of raw data available on the ways the blast moves. Information like this is simply too well documented and readily available to be fake. There would be discrepancies, errors, and mistakes over the 50 years of testing done if it was a hoax, they'd be inescapable.

Not to mention the whole Starfish series of tests, which would literally have been impossible to fake.

I will listen to any conspiracy theory, but Nukes are 100% real weapons.

1 Redchevron 2016-10-26

Dude, just watch the alleged "footage" it's laughable.

1 Cptcutter81 2016-10-26

Please do show some "Laughable" footage. Everything I've seen has been real.

1 Redchevron 2016-10-26

Lol okay...

Because the simple fact that a camera could observe the destruction without itself being destroyed sort of... defies logic.

2 Cptcutter81 2016-10-26

Which camera shots do you mean? These ones are perfectly far enough away to be completely unaffected by the detonation.

I assume you're more looking at these camera shots.

In which case, you're not seeing what the camera sees. The camera in these setups is at the bottom of a vary large, relatively tall concrete tower/bunker for want of a better word, and is pointed upwards focused on a mirror. This mirror is ion turn focused on another one, which is pointed at the top mirror that looks out through the re-enforced glass.

Next laughable fact please.

1 Redchevron 2016-10-26

Lol nonsense.

So this so called mirror is undisturbed by the atomic blast the levels buildings? However you slice it, it makes zero sense that you would not perceive the shock wave in the camera footage itself.

Oh and your wide angle footage shows a mushroom cloud? Whoopie! The exact same explosion is produced with large volumes of TNT, which subsequently, they used to simulate the potential blast wave of a so called "nuclear detonation."

This footage is clearly overexposed in the opening frames and played at a reduced speed for dramatic effect.

I don't know why I'm arguing with you anyway, what are you going to do, drop an atomic bomb on me? ;)

2 Cptcutter81 2016-10-26

You're never going to be convinced about the cameras, because your opinion is set. I've sold you how they actually work, but you're not going to believe me.

The exact same explosion is produced with large volumes of TNT

Funnily enough, TNT doesn't produce a thermal flash or an EMP, both of which are always seen at the test sites.

How would you explain Starfish Prime? A nuke on the edge of space that cut power for hundreds of miles over the pacific, who's radiation cloud killed several satellites.

And for the record, you literally couldn't fake a test involving hundreds of kilotons of TNT. The time delay between the center of the pile detonating and the outside would be off by enough of a delay that the effect would be massively mitigated, lowering the yield considerably.

they used to simulate the potential blast wave of a so called "nuclear detonation."

Show me the US government using TNT to simulate a dozen+ kiloton nuclear blast and I'll listen to your insane theory.

The burden of proof is on you. You're the one making outlandish claims. Back them up with fact or no-one's ever going to believe the crap you're spouting now.

0 Redchevron 2016-10-26

You base your world view on what you see in movies.

enough said.

2 Cptcutter81 2016-10-26

I base my world view on literally every piece of evidence on the planet. The same can't be said for you.

1 Redchevron 2016-10-26

Yeah, movies, I clarified that. I bet you believe in ALIENS also. There is at least as much footage and theoretical nonsense.

You're free to leave this conversation now.

2 Cptcutter81 2016-10-26

I literally didn't know it was possible to have your head that far up your own ass.

1 Gimbalos 2016-10-26

Such an arrogant tone. Had to see if this is how you always behave so I went through your history.

I am sorry people like you exist, the attitude and opinions are like cancer.

1 Redchevron 2016-10-26

Lol, This post is 10 days old.

Or did you think you would hurt my feels?

0 Gimbalos 2016-10-26

Hopefully you will learn to behave like a grown-up when you hit puberty.

1 Redchevron 2016-10-26

Lol, Sick burn dad

0 Putin_loves_cats 2016-10-26

This is a true mind fucker, tbh. After going down the rabbit hole, I'm going to side with, real.

3 mrsuns10 2016-10-26

I wont fall down that fucking Rabbit Hole

0 Putin_loves_cats 2016-10-26

lol, it's an adventure to me. I like doing it (Devil's advocate - entertaining all thoughts), it challenges me and I have the mind for it..