I think you have it right.

Pieczenic is horse shit wanting to make some cash and raise his profile. All the NYPD rumours are just that. Nothing substantial there until proven otherwise. The same goes for raids and everything after too. All the performance art stuff is just hyped up by wish fulfilment.

In the last few days this forums signal to noise ratio become very weak. There are so many real provable crimes this woman has committed. There is a huge amount of evidence backed up with a paper trail a mile long. Yet still we are being sidelined with nonsense.

Imo nobody is going to arrest her before the election. There will be no raids there's simply nothing to support that. In fact the opposite holds true. Everything we've heard about the investigation is that it will be done methodically and with care and diligence. That's not a five day event.

Bottom line here is if people don't want Hillary as President don't put your hopes on her being dragged off. The only way you'll achieve change is if you go out and vote and with all we've discovered even that may not help but still it remains all you can really do.

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Come back when you have more than 4 posts, people might even listen. In this current climate on here you're simply not credible.

his 3rd video was a bunch of bullshit. I can't believe people still give this guy credit. This is an effort to pacify the Trump supporters and quell an uprising.

Too much evidence and very heavy shit on the table for this to fade away. The psyop, I think, is backing us in to a corner that doesn't exist... Tuesday is just another day...

You sound like you got it about right to me.

Well, I suppose in modern times every op is psy op and every war is a proxy war. It is funny how quickly we went from "Hope and Change" to "Despair and Surrender", whether or not you think Obama has done a good job, at least he ran to defeat his opponent rather than the electorate.

The big takeaway here is that America has been inundated with reason to distrust their government, and their news media. Democrats want to pin that on Russian subversiveness, but so much springs from news media incompetence that it would be hard to tie it all back to a single cause. We shouldn't have an Alex Jones character as the only person discussing conspiracy, he doesn't have the brains or temperament for it. But, Jones is the only popular public voice for conspiracy because we no longer have journalists who will look into conspiracy and see where it's going. They investigate from their desks and go out into the field by taking their laptop down the street to get coffee.

There's quite obviously some real tension between the justice department and the FBI that needs to be resolved. Even if everyone involved is above board and operating rationally, ethically, and openly, the end result will be a loss of governmental trust by US citizens and a likely abortion of justice. If someone is telling you to stop worrying about judicial vs. executive right now, ignore them, that's a fucked up situation even on the surface.

Alex Jones isn't really important, he's playing a character regardless of the reason. He may be a plant to make conspiracies all seem implausible, but his temperament, penchant for hyperbole, and lack of transparent sourcing on his statements mean he shouldn't be treated like a good resource for anything. If he says something that sounds interesting, take a look. I bet someone could make a living tracking down the exact percentage of truth in any Alex Jones bit.

I'm not saying you should take to the streets or light things on fire or whatever if the election goes the wrong way for you. You'll end up shot by cops or in jail, and it doesn't look like a good time to bunker down in a prison cell. Though with the prison strike going on, at least you wouldn't have to work while you're there.

Michael Savage is a very popular, also crazy, but definitively more intelligent and grounded alternative to Alex Jones in the pursuit of truth. He's been predicting what we're seeing right now for years, he's written books about what is happening. He is on 400 radio stations coast to coast from 3PM EST to 6PM EST every weekday, he is the 2nd most popular radio show in the country, he is a New York Times best seller even though they refuse to review his books or properly chart him most of the time, and he was voted into the radio hall of fame by his viewers (he got popular vote, he'd never be chosen for such an honor otherwise given he is very conservative/libertarian). He has mentioned that he has 3 studios in San Fransisco, one in case his primary one has problems/is shut down that is a few blocks away, and a secret studio in an undisclosed location in case the world goes to shit so he can stay on the airwaves and provide people with the truth as much as possible. This is the guy to listen to, yes he is a guest occasionally on Alex Jones show, but he's a doctorate in nutrition who chose to go into conservative radio because people ultimately related to how he feels about the state of American leadership, or lack there of - of quality leadership.

I don't think I'd categorize him as a conspiracy theorist, but more of a realist/pessimist conservative/libertarian with a very clear ability to see the truth through the web of lies that is spun constantly in front of American eyes. He's the guy to listen to that doesn't give you the impression you are being fed BS, at least he's pretty sure what he's telling you is the truth or the best he can provide you with.

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete, when everything the American public believes is false." - William Casey, CIA Director

How come they make statements like this, revealing their agendas?

Well just look around. It doesn't seem to have hindered them so far.

Yup...

Nice psyop bro

maybe ;0

It's exactly what's transpiring as of right now.

The public is being appeased and tranquillized, with cruel and sadistic ways of offering hope where none is to be found, to make sure the demoralization will be all the greater once everybody finds out they've been deluding themselves with massive amounts of wishful thinking.

Even if you'd prepare for the worst possible outcome, you'll still be left absolutely horrified to see that the circumstances in the end will be even far worse than you could've possibly imagined.

The sold out MSM has left a gap in the market. Some will exploit it for short term gain.

The way i see it, they control every aspect of media. Do we really think TPTB dont have the power to shut down wikileaks? They arent because they want it to be seen. They are simply testing the success of PHase 1 in ideological subversion. "Can we put truth right in front of them and they still wont believe it?"

You are spot on with Alex Jones. He there to make everyone sound crazy. Same with people like David Icke. Lots of truth to what they say then suddenly its all about FEMA death camps and Lizard people.

I need to see top dogs being arrested for any of this to be taken even remotely seriously. Until i see at the minimum of HRC in handcuffs i wont feed into the bullshit.

Part of Pieczenic's resume is psyop. I think we've been had, probably part of the opposition control, keeping us "compliant".

The short answer is yes, you are watching a play.

All of this noise you're seeing is simply there to prevent you from waking up to what's really going on. Evil is at play here and you are being tested.

Yup...

Yes, this place is ripe for disinfo agents, and lurkers that take our ideas and use them against us. Our arguments get filtered down and people do research to refute them, ready for the next critical thinker that asks irksome questions.

You are right. Anyone who tells you to surrender, says the NWO is collapsing or promotes a various politican is a controlled opposition.

Plus the clintons are a HUGE distraction.

The true conspiracy is we are being set up for a Communist NWO. Majorly Communist, it has capitalism as a backbone and a bit of everything else in it.

urging the public to concede to inevitable corruption

so glad someone else heard that! not something i expected, smh. yeah, makes you think, wtf is up.

edit: all the players/pundits are in on it to some degree.

IF this is all a psyop, tptb have made a mistake. Trump has lit a fire that has been ready to be ignited for DECADES. I, and millions of other patriots will not go quietly into the night. Fear not, this Revolution is just beginning.

Yup, the outrage has been contained. Sure some smart ass women will again be asking "how that hopey changey stuff is working out?", soon enough.

Trump the TV personlaty? Not in on it? That just so happens to be whipping up the non-issues that the public has been prep to drool to, like a Russian dog?

Except Trump is also part of the psyop.

Everything you see on TV or read on popular websites or the newspaper is scripted drama. It's fake as a three-dollar bill. Trump is a psy op, too.

Trump supporters usually agree that the MSM is owned and controlled by a handful of people, and that they all hate Trump because he is a threat to 'the powers that be.' They think that makes him a real outsider. Well if that's the case, then why has the MSM showered so much publicity on him? Positive or negative, it doesn't matter. Even bad publicity is good, especially when your viewership doesn't trust you.

They tell us he gets so much coverage because he is a huge ratings draw. Puh-leeeeze. If they didn't want him to be noticed, he wouldn't be noticed. It's no accident that he is a household name. They have been pumping him up all along. The fact that he is so famous and gets so much coverage is already proof that he is part of the game. I can't believe more people don't see it. It's so obvious.

If its on MSM, or even 2nd tier media(infowars, Russia today, wikileaks)... Its pretty likely a Psy-op. Carefully crafting public response and gauging interest, those are some of the objectives.