I am not pro-Trump, but gah it would be so much more satisfying to me for Shillary to lose... I'm mostly disappointed that so many people actually think she gives a crap about anyone's rights.
I respect your logic. Americans voted for America clearly. They may have been deprived of the Bernie option but in an elimination match style electoral process they voted for essentially the 1950's America at its peak versus the 1770's Monarchy that America rebelled from.
Given that I think the election is rigged, Donald Trump winning would restore my faith that the people can still choose the president. Even if I really don't like who that person is, or his policies.
I mean, he was 100% planned opposition. They hand picked that guy to lose! That's how horrible of a choice Hillary is, she can barely win even against the guy they wanted in there.
Me too. I think he got into it and liked yhe idea and was surprised maybe that many cheered him. Not me, but I am still glad it's not Bloody Hillary for sure
I dunno, I was a huge ron paul supporter, but i knew he was a bit quacky (his reforms would have really crippled welfare and social programs for a while in the beginning).. But I am really into trump, ever since the 2nd debate.
They're all plants. Sanders was planted to get everybody all believing in hope, and that the people have a say. Sanders was planted to distract the passionate people from actually stopping the status quo, by making them believe that a vote or action about a vote is more important than anarchist action. Trump was planted to make Clinton's win appear as if free and fair elections exist in the U.S. Clinton was planted to win.
Some of us are... others wow. Unless 90% of her online sycophants are CTR. Probably. Her party attendance fee to Morroco alone was $12 mil. She can afford 24 million posts and comments
are you aware that Trump is a clinton donor and long-time family friend, WWE Raw actor, TV personality, and bill clinton's golfing buddy?
the fact that anyone thinks it actually matters or that this is a real contest is surprising to me, like they think everything is rigged ... just not the clinton donor and family friend who was set up to "run against" a clinton? lol.
It does matter though. At least Hillary can be tried now. We won't have millions of girls looking up to her as an inspiration for decades to come... The list goes on and on.
Even if Trump is controlled opposition, we've still seen a victory tonight. No matter how slight it is. A true victory would be a revolt in the street against the system entirely, but we're not their yet. We're close.
I never understood the support r/conspiracy gave to Trump. The whole thing is scripted, just the fact he was able to be a viable candidate is evidence of his part in it. There's no way they'd let some upstart challenge the status quo without their own agenda.
Everyone was well aware he was a Clinton donor and golf buddy. Did they plan for him to win and now are going to be secretly pulling the strings for them?
Lol
I think elections are rigged too. Now when you say rigged, do you mean they placed Trump as the opposition, made him look like a fool, so that Hillary can just walk into office? Do you think there are other ways they rig elections?
Well, some forms of rigging I think are well proven at this point: namely, the elite pour money, use their companies (Esp media ones) as proxies for the candidate, they sometimes fund both sides to ensure they can use both to further their objectives, etc.
But I also think they rig the voting machines themselves. So much so, that it doesn't matter if a person steps into the booth or not.
While I think there's some evidence pointing to this in the 2000 election and in the Sanders/Clinton primaries... this is the theory that hasn't been proven with overwhelming evidence.
Have you seen the information from Black Box Voting about the "vote shaving"? I can't understand why anyone would want to express votes using decimals like money. There is no such thing as a part of a vote.
Wow thanks!! Great ammunition for my hacked voting machines lectures.
They use decimals so like that movie Office Space they can shave just like you said. In a close race its all they need to tip it. And very hard for anyone to notice it where as a huge deviation might spur outrage.
Edit: wow some crazy stuff on that website.
They need more than 100 WWIII is coming photos on each page though /s
In hind sight it's near 100% that every poll up or down was purely rigged as part of a narrative. (Trump up, trump tapes, trump down. Trump up, debate, MSM claims hill won, Trump down; Trump has no way to win in final days)
MSM coordinate messaging with campaign; blanket coverage or blackout
registration rigging. (illegals, false names, dead people)
voting N times at multiple locations (only 50% of registered voters vote. Lots of spare names to use)
obama said illegals could vote; illegals were arrested trying to vote
electronic vote counting rigging
paper ballot rigging (destroying some; creating false ones)
Board of Election rigging (Eg, Cook County, IL; Broward County, FL)--doesnt matter what the vote was, campaign just tells them what number to report.
Trump is what the DNC themselves refer to as a pied piper candidate.
Someone that is so isolated and out there that they would have no chance in a General election. Carson Cruz and Trump were these candidates. But jt completely backfired on them cuz Trump has been planning this himself for years
JFK was also planned opposition. But he rebelled and got his head blown open. Trump has deep roots in the NYC corruptocrats, vide Roy Cohn and the founding of Trumps realestate empire. Trump has a short leash.
Regardless of the possibility for the election being rigged (I don't think that's likely, but putting that aside for a moment), I don't see how there's any evidence Trump has more support than he has opposition.
All presidents are only symbols, bar-coded Tarot-card chessmen in the Conspiracy's ceremonial Monopoly Gameboard Earth. Elections don't need to be fixed; they are FIXES for the hopeless who are all too willing to deceive themselves into getting a sense of "empowerment" by standing in line for hours to put a little checkmark on a dead piece of the Amazonian Rainforest. Some reptile shoves a card in front of your face: "Which vampire would you like to pay to suck your blood? Clone One, Clone One, or Clone One?" And you Pink Boys and Girls lecture about apathy! I repeat: They see us as MEAT - nobody gives a flightless FUCK what you think - and all those trees did die for nothing. Yes, you are free - free to be a consumption-gratified meat sack, sleepwalking malls coast to coast, reflexively seeking out the hide wrapped around another mobile hamburger.
And in line with what you're saying, it's obvious that the elections are rigged. When everything else is engineered reality, why would elections be any different? The elections exist to give people the feeling that they have some agency in this system, and to distract would-be anarchists from taking any action.
The people that are too entrenched in the system will simply take this as being sore losers that their preferred party lost, but actually, the only way to beat them is to not play the game.
That's what's unthinkable to them, that we see past the shit show. That to us we see it for what it is, entertainment, a distraction.
Why is it so hard for people to see past the shitshow?! I guess I'm just so entrenched outside of it, I can't see the other way. Truly sometimes I wish I could just be blissfully ignorant, or not even ignorant, just to see the system as a positive thing like everyone says it is. I'd feel a lot safer. To quote my father "Now why would they do that?!"
That is anecdotal. No one doubts he has at least 30,000 supporters in any given state. 30,000 people showing up at his rallies only shows the fervor of his supporters. There are many, many more than that who show up to the polls, though.
If a rally of 30,000 people is anecdotal, then a poll of 10,000 people is anecdotal. So while I agree that this doesn't accurately gauge how many people will actually show up to the voting booths, I'd argue that the polls don't gauge that either. So what evidence is there that Trump has way more opposition that support?
No, that's not how polling works. A Trump rally is a group of Trump supporters. A poll is representative of multiple demographics (democrat, republican, independent, young, old, black, white, etc)
Because Hillary can't even fill a room with Cleveland's biggest star, LeBron James. Only a picture from the rafters from a security person exposed this...and it happened over and over and over. Green screens, Bernie Supporters throwing chairs (not) in Nevada, Trump supporters starting riots in Chicago (not)...but hey, yeah...I even live in Baltimore and see all those Hillary signs in people's yards (not). She doesn't have the empirical evidence needed for true support and I'm certainly not putting all my chips on some MSM talking head saying shes a Weiner...winner.
Consistent polling across the board is a much, much better indicator of who's winning than rallies. Any statistics course could show you why this is true (falsely polling in support of her would do nothing to help her btw, and would probably hurt her).
Showing the fervor of his supporters doesn't tell you anything about the opposition. Most of the democratic base isn't that excited about Hillary Clinton, it's just agreed upon that she's a much, much better choice than the alternative. A few thousand passionate supporters doesn't tell you much about the hundreds of thousands voting in each state.
She won cities, should the will of all the people in LA outweigh the will of all the people in California? If she wins Miami, does that mean the entire state of Florida should go to her? There's a reason we have an electoral college
It's mind boggling. They may think I'm crazy for believing this game is rigged (and I thought that long before trump was a twinkle in our eye), but I think they're crazy for believing that one bit of this election cycle has been "real."
Well the reality TV just went to new levels. When he started winning last night I thought oh, they'll just keep the drama going and make it a tie. Instead they said fuck it let's just keep this rolling for the next four years. My paranoia is strong right now. Trump getting installed is a terrible terrible sign. Hitler was just a pawn too you know. Fuck
Exactly. It's way above our heads. I'm just disgusted right now. Either way, its again win-win for the rotten system we have in place. Still can't believe they bought it.
Are people really gonna buy this though? I'm stunned. I didn't think the image of democracy could be sustained by a trump victory. Obviously he has been placed where he is right now. But damn. My paranoia is going off so strong. Now in afraid the false flag is gonna happen soon, like even before the inauguration. I thought we had maybe a year with shilliary. We're about to get bent over and fucked
It actually looks like he will win at this point. Out of the 7 states that are still counting, only 2 (MN & ME) are blue. And they only hold 14 electoral votes. But Hillary needs 55 more. Trump needs 26 more and the 5 uncounted red-leaning states hold 61 together.
Every state reporting right now has trump leading in every state (Ohio, NC, SC, GA, FL, Virginia and New Hampshire). Hillary already won Vermont and Trump already won Indiana, West Virginia and Kentucky.
Well, it looks like were going to just need to weather the storm for the next 4 years and get a real candidate later. Im glad we stopped hillary though.
When Hilary steals the election, and a few unfortunate individuals take the legal fall for her evil deeds, while a few more commit suicide, and the rest is just swept under the rug while your liberties continue to vanish before your eyes - will you buy into the election campaign again in 2020?
Bonus question: When the large false-flag event happens shortly after the election, will it succeed at both goals of making the country completely forget about the emails while enabling Hilary to commence her vicious domestic and foreign agenda at full speed?
Bonus question: When the large false-flag event happens shortly after the election, will it succeed at both goals of making the country completely forget about the emails while enabling Hilary to commence her vicious domestic and foreign agenda at full speed?
The possibility of this is bumming me out so bad...
Its gonna happen, they have been prepping us for it. The North Korea threat, the Russian threat, the Al Qaeda threat, something is in the works. My guess is that they are waiting for the riots to start before they declare Martial law.
It makes sense, I mean either way it is like a win win for them. If Trump wins they dont want him in power, so they would do this to nullify the election or at least postpone it. If Clinton wins it would give them time to cover the mess of it being rigged.
Told this to an acquaintance of mine who said this would never happen... I said- Yeah okay dude, everyone will hold hands and not blow things out of proportion like they have been.
Oh I've said something like that as well. I just get a big woosh and then silence. People think things will just be the same and no scenario like that would ever come true.
Rioting over smaller issues? The people rioting, Afro Americans, are literally being gunned down in the streets by their peers and the state.
Pretty sure your average citizen has been at most inconvenienced by this election. At worst they have been caused undue stress by the fact that their country and political system is a sham.
Individuals have been shot, yes. And some were unarmed. I've also heard stories about the rioters looting and destroying other's property as well as beating the crap out of white people and people wearing pro-Trump clothing. I don't know what to believe. But yes, it is a smaller issue than a national catastrophe.
I think you were being a little dramatic. There have been large scale riots in the US and they have been the same demographic for the last 70 years. That demographic riots because of the reasons I laid out in my post above.
For the rest of the population of America to start legitimately rioting there literally has to be no gas at the pumps, no milk or bread in the stores. This isn't a speculation, it's historical fact.
When over worked people complain. And maybe unionize
I'm not "being dramatic". I'm just sharing what I've seen in articles and videos regarding the rioting.
And duh. Of course something catastrophic that interfered with people's ability to survive - like lack of food and running water, or even electricity - would have to happen for the rest of the population to riot. I'm not sure what you're arguing about because I never said anything that contradicted that. In fact, that's exactly what I stated in other comments. Perhaps you're confusing what I've actually stated with assumptions about me you've conceived in your own mind.
I did not allude to that. You incorrectly assumed it, dear.
If you reread the conversation, you'll see that we were discussing the possibility of a false flag attack that led to a US-wide catastrophe leading to widespread rioting.
Really because when I see societal breakdown I just see large refugee centers. Perhaps the FEMA coffins are just waste-bins and the FEMA incineration camps are cooking centers.
The thing is, we don't live in the 90's, or the 80's or the 70's. I don't know about the next guy, but I have munitions and MORE than enough to protect myself and my neighbors if we were attacked/attempting to send us to FEMA camps.
Don't you think they know that? The month-over-month record-shattering firearms sales numbers are not lost on those in control. This won't be about them forcibly taking your guns and sending you to FEMA camps -- this is about turning all those guns on each other. It's plain as day, to me.
Well I can't speak for anyone else, but the only way I'd turn on another citizen is self-defense. My life, my families lives, are worth more than a political battle/civil war.
You and me both. But when you consider the broader context, and especially the emotionally-charged violence already having erupted spontaneously around the country, you see an unprecedented potential for something not seen since 1861. It's all engineered, of course, but it's effective and clever.
I just hope the general population ultimately doesn't fall for it.
The same reason most of the population is focused on social politics and why they think either president will do anything for us, is the same reason they would fight each other. Useful idiots. The same ones who disrupt speeches and shut down cities are the same ones who will feel justified shooting a fellow citizen based on invisible thought crimes.
It'll be the DAPL protest. I can almost guarantee it. Someone will get shot - and not with those petty rubber bullets, riots will become violent, and suddenly all those "cops" (hint: they aren't -all- cops...) start massacring and mass-incarcerating protesters. "What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people WITH guns."
I was watching the MSM channels today to watch Hillary's concession speech and they did a Emergency alert system test. Someone mentioned they'd done it all over the US and 4 times in the space of a few days. Weird.
Something is going on, now that Russia was so quick to say they weer working on an alliance with Trump I suspect it will be either BLM related or ISIS related. I suspect something like shootings, IED, etc. I really think something is in the works. It may not be yet, perhaps soon after Trump takes office.
I hope you are right. I dont think it will resort to Martial law, but civil unrest and rioting will be definite. They will try and cause panic in the rest of Americans, playing on people's emotions and trying to get them to think they did the wrong thing.
saw story about a russian power plant explosion earlier, can't wait to see how that plays with russia, just after the threats about the US cyberattacking them.
also aleppo is probably going to take some heavy heavy bombing tonight now that the carrier is on station in the Med.
i think tonight is going to be domestic riots and people attacking who ever ends up winnings offices and such.
On top of this, I think they'll make an effort to be behind the riots. The match flick in the powder keg. The BLM movement would be a prime candidate, people are all ready frothing at the mouth over this. The fools. All lives matter and you don't go saying a particular race matters and destroy shit then expect people to support you. It'd be so easy to have a plant in one of these groups instigate something bigger. With the massive number of seemingly unthinking or unaware masses it'd be a cinch. Then riots will kick off for the wrong reasons, they'll have their excuse and then we begin our transformation from an open society to a closed society.
and 'they' could also make Trump look like a hero by taking credit for something he didn't do. Think of the approval ratings of Rudy Guiliani or George W. Bush immediately after 9/11.
Do we even really need a false flag? They've been spoon-feeding us anti-Russian propaganda and the people I talk to all seem convinced that Russia is the modern axe of evil... I think the country is pretty much ready...
I mean, Russia & the US definitely have been butting heads in the middle east. And US and China have been on edge, too. I don't think that the US is the "good guy" by any means... The US is absolutely responsible for the unrest in the middle east. And we've only been provoking Russia further. I don't know whether or not Russia would actually seek to attack on US grounds. It's possible. But it's just as likely that the US would stage an attack to gain support to go to war. Seeing that they've done it successfully once before...
And provoking Japan cutting off fuel export and then lining up a bunch of older battleships and carriers tight on the base closest to Japan but still in the territory of a state.
Yeah man! I'm very happy Trump won and Americans have their country back (for now) but kinda glad it's over so we can get into some new juicy conspiracies and save the world from our evil overlords.
Yeah but they are both cold and calculating politicians. They will be ruled by what is best for them and their maintenance of power rather than emotions.
Trump won't be able to do that as president. He is baited into emotional responses by tweets.
I actually see HRC is a hothead and has poor coping skills. She hid right after Benghazi claiming a minor brain ailment. Who knows what she has I've seen her spastic head shaking weirdness that seems like seizures to me. But anyway she then resigns. Too hard
You may very well be right. Politicians hiding after political disasters is nothing New though. I mean Stalin locked himself away for days after the Germans invaded.
She probably would have been pretty awful. Still not convinced Trump will be better though.
Poor Poland wanted their independence back and Russia stole it with Prussia, then they welcomed Napoleon and all his empty promises only to starve and freeze to death in retreat of his massive over reach into Russia. (I will never understand Hitler copying his mistake except people say he had been getting more and more erratic and irrational). Then WWI and Nazi's. EU promised the world and delivers only insurmountable debt and endless refugees with terrorists, rapists and murderers camouflaged inside.
Now we have these rumblings and it felt like HRC was pushing for WWIII. She certainly wanted Lybia destabilized thus destroying the only dam keeping the Muslim hoards out of Europe.
Now I can onky pray Trump surprises us all in a good way and puts rhr breaks on this runaway train, encourages Syria not to cave to banking cabal and makes trade not war with the world but without disgusting liberty destroying treaties like TPP.
I know, I know... I hoped and prayed Barry Soetero would keep his word and end this war machine and close GITMO, force the repell of the Patriot Act and not sign the NDAA. How bitter my disappointment.
History seems on an endless loop. The Wheel of Time. Too bad we don't have the honorable Aiel and a Dragon Reborn
that's where your wrong, the American people are a liability and ask too many questions. not only that, but they interfere with both china and the western elites NWO plans.
they WANT the nukes to fall on both sides, leaving them with an escape route to their imperial palaces in china from where they can rule over the remaining planet with an iron fist and complete control of knowledge and technology.
they want us weak, and powerless to oppose them. and they want to destroy their foreign enemies, and us, in one fell swoop.
not only that, but they interfere with both china and the western elites NWO plans.
Please tell me what these plans are, and how they will accomplish them in a post-nuclear world. There will be nothing to accomplish, the surface of the planet will be ruined, and everyone remaining will be living on borrowed time. There's no point, and no order remaining or even possible.
They can succed easily with cancer and infertility thanks to GMOs, glyphosate, thimersol, aspartame and endless FDA approved poisons peddled as medicine.... oops Vioxx our bad but lets wait even after thousands affected and maximize the death toll.
I mean, I agree all of those things are bad, but how would they allow people to live underground, deal with awful air quality, genetic damage, possible irradiation, lack of farmable soil on the surface, and destruction of all resources on the surface?
I'm saying that it might be possible to live in a fallout shelter for a generation or two, but I feel like pretty much any theorized NWO plot would be not only impossible, but pointless after nukes fell.
There are certainly some very vocal supporters of war with Russia, but the general population has no interest in it. Most complaints against Russia sound like something we'd cook up here and since most media sources have worked their assess off trying to discredit conspiracy theorizing, they've sort of written themselves into a corner.
They need that big flashy arrow telling the electorate who it's okay to bomb.
Well they did poison us with unnecessary pesticide for their hyped Zika scare (so much hot air). Almost as much hype as h1n1 that was gonna kill us all.
Obama and Bush both refused to pay for infrastructure to protect from EMP. One well placed and the whole grid goes and my husband worked for LCRA who handled the big transformers. They don't have even 1% back ups in storage.
$100 says the false flag is a white "civil terrorist", enraged at Clinton, who guns down civilians, persuading Americans to:
1) cut all criticism for Hillary, as her opposition is revealed to be crazy angry gun-toting terrorists
2) force more polarizing between liberals and gun-toting conservatives,
3) excuse more internet privacy violation / terrorist hunting / patriot acting / police arming / net neutrality ending, so Hillary can strengthen her anti-dissent tools
Cheered for by the people, because the Trump supporters are "too scary".
While once the republican voters were the weapon to push for tax breaks for the rich, deregulation of wall street, and war mongering in the middle east - today the democrat voters are the weapon to fight for destruction of freedom of speech, increased intelligence, protest quelling, and gun control.
If we can manage to not get fucked over until Gen X and the baby boomers are in the ground we may have a chance...
I'm not sure how much of a difference it's going to make, but people who grew up with the Internet seem more inclined to not be retarded and to not just blindly believe everything they're told. And I'm not saying it's a majority of the younger generation who have a head on their shoulders... Just more of them than the older ones, simply because they have a lot more tools than older people.
I see NO evidence of your "believe" point. In fact, it seems worse and critical thinking in general seems stunted. I don't know how old you are, but I came from the "old world" and transitioned into this "new world" and I've seen mostly the opposite.
I don't think people are getting smarter or stronger. If anything they've been feminized and dominated by fear.
I don't think people are getting smarter or stronger. If anything they've been feminized and dominated by fear.
This is every generation. We could toss 1st,2nd, and 4th amendment rights in the dumpster once they're through indoctrinating everyone. Dumbing down our public schools and colleges with social politics over actual skills and critical thinking.
I'm totally sick of hearing about 'digital natives' and their 'tech smarts'. Pawing at touchscreens, 'liking', upvoting and taking selfies aren't 'computer skills'.
I disagree. Most millenials are the most easily influenced people around. They don't have the party loyalty of the boomers or the apathy of the xers, but they get passionate over everything and really, really suck at analysing information or thinking long term.
More of us just roll with whatever the headlines tell us without actually doing any research. We care more about entertainment than information and so we end up with this shitshow of an election. Where feelings are more important than facts and people parrot whatever their chosen media source tells them.
I think you have valid points but I would just add that the narrative of Trump supporters being too scary and therefore used as a pretext to inact draconian agendas is being delivered to them with a big bow. You don't have to dig very far in this sub pr others to find dozens of Trump supporters talking about how they're going to gun down government officials and in some cases anyone that has a different opinion than themselves. I get why people are angry, but this is playing right into the stereotypes. This isn't 1776, you're not going win a revolution by grabbing your musket and bustin caps.
oooh nice, I didnt even think of that. More than likely they will target minorities to finally trigger off that whole falsified race war. Divide and conquer right.
I don't think so, but I do think it'll be a crazy white man. I predicted a year ago that whoever wins will be a target. Not sure if I saw correctly, but Hillary was behind bullet proof glass in Philly speech tonight? She's built quite the list of enemies and I wouldn't ever want to be in her shoes because you have to be insane to want to be where she is.
False target, made to draw sympathy. But who will ever know - when the "angry Trump supporter" is basically canon anyway. It'll be the easiest story to believe
When the large false-flag event happens shortly after the election,
I just know that if it happens, it can easily be blamed on Russia. Here's the MSM narrative: "Trump lost, so his evil friend Putin attacked Madam Hillary's America! Invade Russia!"
pretty much all my circles who think I am crazy for being a conspiracy theorist believe 100% that Russia is secretly manipulating everything Trump does behind the scenes.
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to grasp the fact that Russian isn't a big fan of America simply because America keeps trying to be the god damn world police. Wouldn't it be a legitimate reaction if we freaked the fuck out because a coalition of foreign powers with self-serving motives lead by Russia was trying to strengthen its grasp on central/south America and putting a crap ton of weaponry near the Mexican border?
Russia isn't out there trying to dominate the world, spread communism, and burn babies, for Christ's sake... They're just trying to make sure they don't get bent over by Americans overreaching across the globe. They don't necessarily have the most progressive human right stances, but they're far from being the worst place out there, and a good case can be made about the US having a pretty fucking shady track record as well. How people are so easily manipulated into viewing them as some sort of boogeyman is beyond me...
yeah. I have to be selective on my discussions with friends. almost add sarcasm to each conversation because they can't handle anything i got for them... well at least until it's depicted in a Marvel movie.
as a canadian i dont really know tooo much about american politics... but before it was eve trump vs clinton i said to my american friends that if its comes down to those 2.. either one are the perfext exuse to start world war 3.. blame it on an idiot or a criminal... both are the perfect fall.
Bonus question: When the large false-flag event happens shortly after the election, will it succeed at both goals of making the country completely forget about the emails while enabling Hilary to commence her vicious domestic and foreign agenda at full speed?
Fucking A, there it is and we both know it is going to happen. And watch it unite the people in blind patriotism. Within a few months, shit is gonna get really fucking real.
Sadly the people are already being turned against the lock and load crowd that could actually do something good if unimpeded.
I saw on Facebook some of my friends that identify as pacifists (well they were before Hillary made war cool #imwithher... sorry need to literally puke after saying that) advocating the use of extreme and total lethal force on a militia that is apparently forming in Georgia right now. "Take em all out like any other enemy"
Sadly our friends are among the sheep and I truly hope we do not have to hurt the ignorant, or have them hurt us, to do what is right in the end.
It's funny. I'm Canadian, and I've always been entirely against guns. I've been living in the US for a while and following politics, and throughout the course of the last 2 years, I've completely warmed up to guns.
I most likely won't ever own one myself, but seeing as the government seems to be working against its people, I now believe that the American people owning a lot of guns is absolutely necessary.
I don't see the argument ever being made about possessing guns during a war.
If we ever find ourselves in a position where our government goes into hiding and the country is being invaded by a foreign country, how the flying fuck do we expect to defend ourselves? There's no way the military can be everywhere at once.
These are good people that unfortunately haven't had the lived experience to wake them up. It pains me that the PTB got to them so completely they are willing to throw their ideologies down the tubes and laugh as the jackboots silence true patriots.
To be fair to them I used to be in that train of thought and it comes from the one place you would think you would expand your mind from... school. I think it was the Frankfurt School who said that is the way to indoctrinate the future and they are right. Its a shame really because learned helplessness is becoming the norm for the future generations and if Hillary gets in this will become Europe 2.0 with weak "men" being walked over by aggressive neanderthals
Let's switch things up for a moment for fun. If Trump is elected and say BLM decides to arm themselves and form militias to defend their rights and resist the new government, would you be on side?
Pacifists are taking a moral stand and can still actively protest injustice and overthrow them. In many ways, they are more effective than armed mobs. I mean look at India, they effectively liberated themselves through nonviolence.
Civil War of any kind is a freaking horror show. Give me passive resistance over armed conflict any day.
I believe they can. Many are veterans and enthusiasts that are trained to use their weapons. If it was possible to stomp out such a movement we would have won in Nam and I feel like our soldiers are unlikely to drop napalm on small town Georgia.
As for the ban.
Guns are like Pandora's box. They are out in the country and will not be removed. Few gun owners would turn their property to the govt and attempts to confiscate would turn groups like the NRA into a militia.
What makes a crazy homeless person with no ambition off the street any different from a man with ambition and a pension for profit under current laws?
I really don't understand your logic. Who is an ideal candidate for president? A crazy, feeble, criminal woman pandering to feminists? A black savior with a thirst for war and death overseas?
To be fair, there is no one qualified to lead a large nation. Why should anyone be above others?
The fact is, you're choosing between a profiteering businessman operating under corrupt law who can't run a casino and a profiteering businesswoman who takes bribes, harasses people with federal agencies, and is a proponent for war using banks, women and minorities as a platform and supports policy against her platform. They are both fallible.
The difference is that Hillary is a career politician and has things in the works to further her and her sponsors agenda and has done things beyond Trump's league. She is also a proven failure in politics from all areas of her career.
So why would anyone vote for her unless they are brainwashed? She's being sensationalized as a feminist hero although she condones and defends rape and sexual assault of women and sexual affairs by her husband. She's being painted as a hero to minorities although her past policies all indicate she is a racist an doesn't care.
This exactly I have been telling everyone I know this. Prepare for a large false flag event in the first year of Hilliary's presidency. It will blamed on ISIS or Assad and/or Iran.
but before the election he absolutely was not. right? before the election he was just a businessman and political outsider who was shaking things up. but now it remains to be seen if the illuminati is behind his presidency. got it.
Well by "shortly after the election" I didn't mean 2 hours.
Why didn't Hillary win?
I suspect Hillary didn't 'win' because Trump actually won by a larger margin than they could flip via rigged voting machines, fraudulent ballots, etc. without making it obvious.
If you're suggesting that a false flag could have helped the democrats scare people into keeping them in power, it's a real possibility. And maybe they would have done it had they foreseen this outcome. And maybe they still will. Am I understanding the question?
Because they're not just used to win elections, they're also used to change laws, gain power, instill fear, and advance political and military agendas in other ways. Take a look: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/x-admitted-false-flag-attacks.html . Unfortunately it's not a matter of if it will happen, but a matter of when it will happen again, and of how large of a crisis they want to create.
Obviously I hope it doesn't happen under the next President. As you said, I was just being smug with my predictions. And I hope the chance of it happening is diminished with Trump, but realistically we don't know much about him.
As a person whos subbed on The Don I have to say question number 2 (like 9/11) is going to be real shitty. Alot of people will die like many have over foreign lands in the past 15 years. While that is going on yes it will succeed in taking away the small liberties we still have and make us into Europe 2.0. As far as WHO the war will be with we don't know but for sure something will kick off and it will not be pretty
the elections weren't close enough to need a false flag. There might be establishment forces trying to derail Trump if he refuses to fall in line, but apparently there are elements within the establishment who actually want "true change"
I, for one, find it very interesting that the FBI suddenly cleared Hillary...again...with two days to go before the election. It would seem that Mrs. Clinton's handlers do, in fact, want her to occupy the oval office. Trump doesn't stand a hope in hell. While Trump might be good for America, the oligarch's can't control him and therefore won't allow him to take office.
I totally agree. I am not a Hillary supporter nor a Trump supporter. However if Trump somehow wins it will restore faith that the election process really does work how it should.
However if Trump somehow wins it will restore faith that the election process really does work how it should.
And potentially get Trump assassinated. Trump wants peace. The Oligarch's want war. John F. Kennedy wanted peace. The Oligarch's from JFK's time wanted war. JFK was shot. The parallel is clear.
I could be off the mark, but I don't understand why Bernie is still involved in campaigning for Hillary. He's fundamentally against what she's about. Given that either he was threatened or at risk of senate seat removal, all he had to do was endorse her at the DNC and then peace the hell out. Why the further involvement? By my logic, it seems to increase the chances of him being a shill by a pretty big margin.
She has blackmail against him. I posted a way long thread outlining my theory about Sanders/Clinton here. Remember the Wikileaks where they said how he wasn't "sticking to the agreement" and how they could use "leverage" if need be?
I'm pretty sure the terms were laid out clearly when he decided to run: Clinton/DNC thought he could be useful as a way to reach the Occupy/youth crowd so they indulged his run. But I'm guessing Clinton said something like, "but if I win the nom (knowing full well she would), you agree to endorse me and continue to campaign. If I win the presidency I'll offer you 'x-token.' If you don't do these things, then x info gets released." Plus, she'd be the POTUS. You don't want to be a politician on the wrong side of her, especially as a Dem. Even if he's technically an independent, it'd be like pissing off the popular girl in school who can make your life in school a living hell.
It HAS TO be way darker than that ... at ANY time over the past few months, Sanders could (should) have pulled his support for Hillary and left her to flounder! There's something way bigger at stake here, because he's sold himself out and he knows it.
These fuckers play dirty. If you think for one moment that something is off limits, out of reach, or impossible, stop limiting yourself and reassess the situation.
From personal experience, I have watched a cop plant drugs on someone and then arrest them.
I have also seen a criminal target another criminal by dropping a bag of dope and dealing supplies into a vehicle he owned before calling the police on him.
I can only imagine what people with unlimited power, wealth, and influence could do. Especially since we know they have no qualms about hurting, abusing, or killing people.
Given the fact that he's a racist/sexist/misogynistic mother fucker (with hard evidence showing that) it won't be hard to make some shit up that will seem entirely believable. Don't get me wrong; I'll take Trump over Clinton any day. I'm not that into the idea of WW3, personally.
I'm not talking about the sexual assault allegations. Those were too well-timed to be taken seriously. They're entirely believable, but they serve the Clinton campaign a bit too well to be taken as fact. I'm talking about the multiple recordings of him saying shit that clearly exposes Trump's views on women (ie: grabbing women by the pussy, attributing any sort of behavior he doesn't like to PMSing, commenting about women's weight in the most demeaning way he can muster, etc.)
The guy is a sexist mother fucker who doesn't seem to believe women have any use other than looking god and cooking his dinner. It's not a reason to not support him when the only other option is Clinton, but anyone who argues that Trump considers women to be equal to men has their head pretty damn deep up their own ass.
See I find this attitude disturbing. They've built up this narrative around trump with nothing to back it up other than meaningless words. The right has built it up like trump is some underdog outsider who only cares about doing what is right, but the reality couldn't be further from that concept. What we do absolutely know about trump is that he has a history of defrauding people and rubbing shoulders with the other wealthy and powerful people.
It bothers me to see people act like trump is some victim, because that puts him in a position where he can blame others for anything he does that people don't like, and people will believe him and take his words at face value. Maybe trump does only want peace, but we don't know what his true intentions are and it is foolish to take his words at face value when he has a history of lying to people.
All we really know about Trump is that he sees normal people as pawns and couldn't give less of a shit about them, that the only reason he is running for office is the money he can siphon out of it, and that he comes from the exact same background and crowd as the Clintons and that they're friends behind the scenes. I fail to see how anyone could expect any better from Trump than from Clinton.
In your hand you have two grenades. One you know is going to explode and hurt you. The other, yes it's also a grenade, but you don't know if it will hurt you or not. You have to keep one of them. Which do you choose?
Holy smokes! He's exactly the same, and he predicted the early 90s recession, too! Incredible. I keep hearing people say he's a crook or fraud, but I've never seen a shred of evidence. Can someone enlighten me to this supposed evidence?
We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability.
Yeah, seems consistent to me. The same guy who is a long time friend of the Clintons and every other powerbroker in the United States who will give him the time of day. The same guy who defrauded people with his "university." I hope I somehow missed the sarcasm.
He's talking about financial stability and how financial instability affects the entire world in that quote. Not advocating for open borders.
If I were to guess which candidate has all the fat cat investors my bet would be on the one with all of the mainstream media support, not the one under constant assault. That or the one with the shady foundation accepting money from foreign and private interests in exchange for paid speeches and access to the State Department.
You can shit on Trump University all you want, it was just a non-accredited specialty school. If you want some real fraud I suggest you ask someone who has lived in Haiti within the past decade how they feel about the Clintons.
If I were to guess which candidate has all the fat cat investors my bet would be on the one with all of the mainstream media support, not the one under constant assault.
Do you really think one candidate is the good guy and one is the bad? Or that the choice of executive leader is given to... what exactly? A plurality of most completely uninformed people who happen to have been born in the USA? Or that if said people really for the choice, these two candidates - who happen to be BFFs - would have been the best two options?
He's talking about financial stability and how financial instability affects the entire world in that quote. Not advocating for open borders.
He's talking about one world currency/markerplacw, which at the very least tells us that both candidates support TPP and much more.
Do you really think one candidate is the good guy and one is the bad? Or that the choice of executive leader is given to... what exactly? A plurality of most completely uninformed people who happen to have been born in the USA? Or that if said people really for the choice, these two candidates - who happen to be BFFs - would have been the best two options?
Its sort of a universally accepted fallacy these days that its always Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich. I believe Trump is the first legitimately good candidate in our lifetime and people are too cynical now to see it. Hillary Clinton is literally a criminal and has already sold out our government from a lower office. Trump basically already won life. He's rich and famous with an incredible family and capable of doing whatever he wants whenever he wants. He's been saying for decades that he doesn't want to run for office, but he's finally doing it because he honestly believes its gotten so bad that nobody else is capable of doing it.
Its a once in a lifetime opportunity to elect somebody for president that does not owe anyone anything and does not need anything himself. He will be the very definition of a public servant, not the beneficiary of public office.
The argument of who deserves to vote is pretty stupid and irrelevant. Won't bother there... and no, they aren't BFFs. Unless your BFFs file frivolous rape lawsuits against you.
He's talking about one world currency/markerplacw, which at the very least tells us that both candidates support TPP and much more.
That's an incredible leap of logic. He's saying that we're effectively all in this together in terms of economic prosperity, that economic turmoil crosses borders. How you tie that to a specific position on a specific piece of legislation is beyond me. One thing's for sure though: Hillary Clinton called TPP the gold standard for trade deals and her husband signed NAFTA.
The argument of who deserves to vote is pretty stupid and irrelevant.
That wasn't at all the point I was trying to make. What I mean is that from the perspective of the ruling class that's what we are, and they sure as hell aren't handing the reins over to us any time soon. If nothing else this election should have taught us that.. remember the DNC primary, after all. Which is part of why I think all this is immaterial anyway - I mean, I'll still vote, because it's kind of fun, but come on, we know how this is going to turn out, don't we?
That's an incredible leap of logic. He's saying that we're effectively all in this together in terms of economic prosperity, that economic turmoil crosses borders. How you tie that to a specific position on a specific piece of legislation is beyond me.
It's not so incredible. If you were being incredibly reductionist you could argue that TOP/NAFTA enable global trade at the potential cost to local economies and jobs in the wealthier trading prtner country. Trump and Clinton are both globalist extremists. Maybe that's the only way forward that will work, maybe not, but they both bullshit and pretend to want limits on "free trade" and support elements of a protected economy, while just a couple years (or days, in Clinton's case) previous they went on the record with their ubprecedented love of globalism.
If you're against globalism and you don't think Trump is on your side at least in that regard there is no reasoning with you.
And yeah, it should have been Trump vs. Bernie. Hillary rigged it, everyone knows it. A vote for Hillary is a voice saying "you don't need to respect my vote, my voice and my opinion, do what you want".
I'll still take Trump over HRC if given the choice. There's a chance Trump really is a well-meaning idiot who will moderately fuck up the country for a few years. That seems preferable to WW3.
He's got that too. At this point he could spend the rest of his life on a yacht in a hot tub filled with supermodels. For the rest of his life since he is a 70 year old man. And: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56SxICbH1i8
Sadly im a poor swede : / Im just very invested cause i got friends from all parts of the world and i dont wanna see a new war or more drone attacks...
yeah but this sub is filled with retards now. They are just like the SJWs that want to "FEEL" like they are part of some sort of "revolution". It is really easy to get these types to believe anything you want: first present the current reality and explain how it is corrupt and all lies...once you have them agreeing with you there then you can literally feed them any bullshit non-sourced article you want and they will believe everything it says simply because it isn't the mainstream source that you showed was wrong/biased/etc. The level of brainwashing in this supposedly free-thinking sub is just plain sad. I have been avoiding it for weeks for this very reason. I decided to check it out again today....regretting that decision. Might as well just rename this sub the_donald because that is all it is these days.
It's pretty sad seeing rational political discourse die. Both The Donald and any Hilary leaning subs are hopelessly divided. Conservatives immediately dismissed as racists/etc while liberals dismissed as "cucks". HRC supporters who say they support democracy scheming how to deny Trump electoral votes. Trump supporters gloating every chance they get.
Trump wants peace?! Lmao so guess his whole entire "I'm going to crush ISIS!" spiel was complete bullshit? He's going to defeat ISIS with diplomacy now? Give me a break.
Well we are already supposedly attacking ISIS in order to bring peace, so not a great argument. We are actually supporting them, so if he did actually attack them he might be able to actually achieve something. Doubtful, but not arming them might be a good first step.
We invaded and conquered a foreign land and are surprised that the inhabitants are attacking us? We went to the middle east for oil and shouldn't even be there at all. Just seems like common sense to stay way the fuck way from there.
So if someone who's down in almost every poll and has an unprecedented level of opposition for a presidential candidate wins the election, it's proof the system works?
I feel we have all learnt that even when clear evidence is provided publicly which should place a number of powerful people before a judge that nothing happens. We understand just the kind of strength the mainstream media holds as well as those in power.
When I Google into both Clinton and Trump I see nothing on the corrupt CF, Podesta, Pedo rings etc. This election really has concluded for me that most of society is dumbed down, brainwashed and too sensitive! People hate in what someone says on camera (Trump) over what someone does off camera (Clinton).
I got the sense that the FBI brought this up again, with the intention ahead of time to "close the case" again before the election, thereby reassuring the uninformed proletariat that there's nothing to see here, move along, and vote for your queen.
Was scanning The_Donald and there was a post indicating that the NYPD was told to hand over all materials relating to their investigation and to stop the investigation. So, basically, the FBI opened their own investigation so they could stop the NYPD investigation and confiscate all the evidence.
This is pretty typical protocol. However, quite sly if this whole thing was done specifically to stop the NYPD investigation. I have my doubts about this because the NYPD probably weren't going to get anywhere with those emails anytime soon and they also weren't going to get anywhere in general because they weren't going to get access to the emails and other evidence the FBI already had. There would be no way to cross check anything.
If this is true, it may be a power move by the FBI to get the emails and other evidence in their position, and their position only. The FBI has a better ability to keep that stuff safe without anything leaking. There is probably more damning stuff in those emails other than a couple being classified.
I'm not even going to touch Trump being good for America, but I would assume the FBI cleared Hillary for the fact that Comey wants to keep his job. I don't think it was ever planned to investigate further with the new emails. He wrote the letter specifically so it would be leaked and cause controversy.
It was the move to make, when you think about it. I mean, by all accounts, a lot of people at the NYPD knew about the emails and about the fact that they'd been turned over to the FBI. If you're Comey, what do you do? Wait till the information is leaked by the NYPD and have a situation where it looks like the FBI now has double the amount of emails they initially had and are trying to keep it on the down low, or give the appearance of being totally forward and transparent by announcing it before anyone else does, knowing fully well that you'll whitewash HRC a second time before the election? It's a pretty easy choice.
It's only for a day or two (Hopefully). Things are heating up in Gotham with FBI between a rock and a hard place again (3rd time). New York investigation squad informed FBI of their finds when investigating the Carlos Danger case. Its going to be mind altering event?
If Trump gets elected, expect Hillary throw a revolution to "Restore American Democracy" to overthrow him and make herself the eternal potus, or Trump is much worse than Hillary.
I love how everyone on this sub was freaking out, yelling about how Hillary was gonna get in its so rigged theres no way trump will ever get in the puppetmasters won't let it happen. And then trump wins the election. I wanna see what outdated or poor sources they find to support their theories from before, what they use to twist this into a bugger theory.
I don't fully believe that no, but I do know this sub was ranting about how Hillary was guaranteed to get in and hd a bunch of "legitimate sources" just to be proven wrong, I wanna see how it's spun
Choice is an illusion. By holding elections and allowing us to vote; gives all of us the illusion our choices matter. They don't. The next president has already been chosen for us. "It’s called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it" George Carlin
Of course they are. Bill was the one who told Trump to run. They just spent the last year telling us how different the other was and how evil the other was. I sure hope you don't think Trump is going to make good on his promise to appoint a special prosecutor to look into Clinton.
This is the most predictable election ever. The fact that Hillary is even allowed to be running is mind blowing. Whats worse is people will actually vote for her
People are foaming at the mouth of having their own version of American royalty.
We escaped the clutches of them when we fought for our independence from Britain. But here we are centuries later willfully voting in our own version. If not her, then the entertaining man that says funny things on my TV!
You realise that's retarded right? I mean you actually believe the entire political class are pedophile satanism? Or just the Democrats? Either way that is the stupidest, most baseless argument possible.
It's literally a page out of the Nazi handbook of propaganda. Accuse the enemy of the worst crimes imaginable and the idiots will eat it up. Protocols of the elders of zion in der sturmer all over again.
One politician being manipulated by a cult makes sense. there is evidence, it's happened many times before. Rasputin being the prime example.
arguing that dozens if not hundreds of high level politicians are all in on a child kidnapping/molesting occult society with the bare minimum of evidence is ridiculous.
I can believe that most of them collude and work together to screw us over pretty easily. Saying they are devil worshipping pedophiles is just kind of dumb.
I am saddened by the rhetoric at University of Michigan... Everyone is so pro-Hillary and so fearful of Trump, that if you bring up the fact that the election is rigged, not real, or that she's a criminal etc. you just get ostracized.
I met a girl last night who was literally in tears because she was so fearful of Trump. That is how well they are manipulating us through MSM and Social Media...
It's very sad. It's almost as if they've been on a path their whole life, a path of manipulation, to this point. To be so blind to vote for someone as corrupt as Hillary requires an extraordinary amount of manipulation.
I keep trying to explain this to people. Mainly my own age (20). No-one knows what's seriously going on and no-one can think outside of that box they have been put in.
People have been conditioned to "feel" because they are unique and only felt life matters; thus making themselves easy pawns. Sadly democracy doesn't guarantee that any of the choices are beneficial to the voters.
Standing at a trump event I saw with my own eyes his hate and the hate he stirred up. My dislike of trump has nothing to do with being brainwashed, for me it was about research and voting my conscious
Anyone who votes Hillary is functionally retarded. I'm not saying vote for Trump, but there's more than enough information and evidence to prove Hillary guilty of several federal crimes. It's ridiculously obvious how hard the state department and Obama have been covering for her and slowing down investigations, which is only more suspicious given the fact that lying Obama is directly implicated in her coverup of Benghazi and her email server in which he was found to have communicated on under a pseudonym.
I'm not American, but I can assure you that this looks utterly bizarre from my viewpoint too. You have a woman, who is obviously a criminal, running for office and nobody is brave enough to stop her. This is the kind of shit you expect to see in the most corrupt nations in Africa, but not in the US. Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive enough to think that corruption isn't rife in all governments, but this is taking it to a whole new level. They are flaunting it right out in the open, for the whole world to see.
What do you mean "brave enough to stop her"? Hillary is part of a powerful national (and international) political faction. She has a tremendous amount of political capital and appears to be spending it wisely. There are also a number of questionable deaths amongst those that stood in her way or represented some threat. So maybe it's not bravery that's keeping people from stopping her.
IMHO, anyone who votes is functionally retarded. If a person honestly believes that the global elite will allow the common joe to decide the leadership of the most advanced and richest country on the face of the Earth, by filling in a bubble next to a name, then yeah...functionally retarded in my book.
If this election has taught me anything, it's how fucked the world really is and how little people seem to care. I honestly feel SO deflated about the whole thing it's unreal . All the evidence that's come to light, it's all there in black and white and it's all been completely brushed under the carpet and nothing is going to be done. That and the amount of ignorant people who just say oh it's fake or I don't care I still want Hilary to win is mind boggling. The things she has done and will continue to do with no consequences is just astounding. How the hell has it come to this? What went wrong with humanity that money, power and greed is more important than what's right? It really does just seem like we are completely powerless and just have to put up with it because they have money and so many people will turn a blind eye if the price is right.
Sorry for a bit of a miserable rant but I just need to vent to people that will actually get where I'm coming from with this. I'm sure some of you guys feel the same.
I just thought I'd say that I feel the same way; I connect with what you're saying. Your thoughts here echo my own. The only thing I'd add is that this election has shown me the system in place, from the media to Reddit to the "Justice" department. It's all set up to herd people along the "official" story.
What is rarely understood is that far too many of us are in a position where the choice is protest or eat. Skip work to occupy and you will be fired, homeless and without healthcare.
I'm of the belief that more must be done for sure but the system is designed around helplessness this way. It's terrible but I believe it holds the key to retribution. Make them helpless and the fight can begin.
I think more important than job security situations involved in protesting in the US is something that no one ever talks about: The US is enormous for one country, with an enormous population. We don't have a few major cities to protest in, we have dozens or hundreds spread out over several thousand miles and also seperated by wide gulfs of culture (relatively speaking).
Even if mass protests occur in the capital city, that's just one place representing a tiny fraction of the population. The coordination required is nigh impossible by itself, ignoring the motivation required.
It's the same reason the style of democratic socialism practiced in much of Europe is just not possible on the US scale, in my opinion.
The point is that federalism is necessary to be effective. Laws should generally be enacted in the smallest government that can effectively enact them.
I actually think live protesting is old fashioned and counter productive.
You know what they do at protests now? Collect surveillance on the protestors, plant false dissidents who break shit, and then use said incidence to delegitimize the issue at hand, and increase surveillance laws and further militarization of the police. No thanks. I don't feel like getting a faceful of pepper spray, water gunned, or arrested for expressing my first amendment right.
In the past, the goal of protests were to call attention to a subject, so that the media would report on it and get others to care. We no longer require the media to bestow importance on information, thank God. We also don't have to physically assemble in order to disperse information.
Ergo, protests are useless. We are not lazy for not engaging in them; we're just smarter.
Are you kidding me? What exactly would protest accomplish? If it were a non-violent protest we would be shrugged off & dismissed as "crazy sore losers" by the media and the sheeple who believe the media. Not only that, but most people can't afford to take off of work to spend time "protesting." Many of us have families to care for that need food and a safe place to live. If violent protest - the military is more than prepared for that, and the elite would love that more than anything because they would get to unleash their baby - martial law. That would be their dream come true. Sorry, but I don't advocate putting people's lives in danger just to most likely make the situation worse. The corruption is too severe and average Americans are utterly incapable of successfully rebelling against this nation's military. This isn't the 1800s. They have weapons far beyond what we're capable of attaining as average citizens. You don't know what you're talking about.
It would show them that there is zero fear in The People, which is all I can grasp from your comment - fear.
It would also accomplish much more than sitting at home liking and disliking Facebook comments or upvoting and downvoting Reddit threads and their comments.
Yep! You're dumb if you don't fear them. These people launch "terrorist attacks" on their own citizens. They don't give a crap about anyone.
Log off, get up and get out there.
Not happening. 1) I have 2 small kids to take care of, 2) I'm 7 months pregnant, and 3) I refuse to put my safety at risk to "protest" (mainly because of the first 2 reasons stated)
Unfortunately we are victims of a society that tells our history operates in a most Carlylean way. "Great men move history" is what we are subliminally taught and being that we aren't one of them learned helplessness takes over as we wait for a hero. We wait for an MLK, we wait for Ghandi, we wait for Jesus Damn Christ when if we were to change the paradigms we simply need those willing to fight the good fight.
We need someone willing to die for the cause and those types are in short supply when the populace is well fed and entertained. You have too much to live for to be the spark, to preform that all important act. I don't believe I am the person to do it either due to cowardice or otherwise but every bit of me wants it to happen.
Good luck to you sister and all of yours, it is a very interesting time to be alive.
You could just invade a federal wildlife reserve. Lots of media attention and pretty good odds you don't even get convicted of anything. 1/9 chance you get shot on the scene though.
If it was organized well enough and had enough support it could absolutely be done. It would take many thousands of people but it could happen. If enough people were committed and effectively communicated their intentions to the general public, the fence sitters would join in and the movement would grow. No not everyone can afford to protest but there are a lot of people who just feel it isn't worth the financial burden they would take on to do it. If they saw enough other people doing it, they might join in.
If you got enough people to do it sure, but you won't. The best course of action is mass organized protest on the capital. They won't admit it, but the jails are overcrowded as it is. They can only "arrest" so many people before they have to start thinking of a better solution. Force the government to shut down. Block them from getting to their jobs, shut down the streets around government facilities and make them listen. The international media, corrupt or not, will have no choice but to cover it. Refuse to cease and desist until they take action. Do not get violent but don't back down. Make them call the police and then the Army. If they continue to escalate the situation with weapons and violence, the outside world, (Other first-world countries), will get involved. If there is enough outrage, they will have no choice but to give in.
usually people like us and I am assuming most of the people on this board have full-time jobs and protesting is out of the question. it would be nice to force a govt shutdown but don't have an idea how.
If everyone stopped paying taxes, the feds would just print more money. Taxes only fund local governments. Federal taxes are there to ensure you (a) have less income and (b) to force people to use their currency.
From what i believe Trump will win so they can blame the economic collapse on him and conservatives.If Hillary does get in they need to start WW3 as an excuse for the economic collapse.They cannot keep the current economic system up for a full term, no way in hell.
I disagree. You are right that they can't avoid the economic collapse, but they can go to war with Russia to mitigate the consequences. They need Hillary in office to do that.
Well the next day after the election is 11/9.
Numerologically that is an excellent day for a large stock market crash which would happen in the event of a Trump win.
Gonna be an interesting few months whoever wins.
It should also be noted that John Kerry is in fucking Antarctica until the 13th. That seems highly suspicious to me, as it looks like he's protecting himself from something. Suffice to say, you could be right. I'm finding this one extremely hard to call.
20 trillion in debt.
Adding over a trillion per year.
The strength of the US Dollar as a world currency is dependent on being used to pay for oil.That is a huge part of what the middle east war is about now.The USA is currently losing the wars in the middle east, the petrodollar is in grave danger of losing it's status.When that happens expect very high inflation.
Also the economic numbers put out by the US government are fake.All total BS.
If anyone gives me shit, I would say "If your Hillary votes went to Johnson, we wouldn't be in this mess!"
All these Hillary supporters, stealing away our Libertarian votes. And all these Libertarian votes, stealing away all the Republican votes. All these preferable candidates, stealing away votes because people rather them be president.
A wasted vote is voting for someone you don't want to be president. I never have and never will vote for a president I don't want.
I'm not saying vote for Trump, but how can someone vote for:
someone that is a complete LIAR
someone funded by SAUDI ARABIA (worst state in Middle East - funding lots of radicals)
someone who has HUMA ABEDIN (ties to Radical Islam) in the team
someone who funds personal things from her foundation
someone who was psycho-happy that Khadaffi was KILLED like a dog (I wonder what Americans would feel like if Obama was killed in the same fashion - no trial no nothing)
someone who wants war with RUSSIA
You guys REALLY are either just stupid not to see it all, or just BLIND.
If she really wins we will see a WORLD WAR THREE in our lifetime...
The thing is most people don't know, or won't know if they're trapped in the work/student debt/mainstream news cycles. And if they have heard of these, they'll probably dismiss you. And even if they don't dismiss you, you have to inform them about so much & about such complicated issues in a concise yet logical way that doesn't lean too partisan. Not playing Devils Advocate with you, but that's how hard it is. Most people don't even know about Qadaffi or about Wikileaks
I hope you all are ready for the final nail in the coffin of what is America. As much as i dont want it to happen, Hillary will win and we will all pay the price.
Clinton is owned by Rothschilds, Soros, Goldman Sachs, and the entirety of the International Banking Cabal. Open Borders, Feminist, Satanists, Absolute Nonsense.
Trump is Pro-Zionist. Just met with Israel PM last week. Daughter is married into Kushner family and converted to Judaism. Stop and Frisk. Bomb the hell out of whoever. Being advised by the likes of Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Steven Mnuchin, etc.
Either way expect more meddling in the Middle East, more money printing out of thin air, less civil liberties all the way around. This Country has been finished for a long time before this election, this is just to make it clear to all Americans in an overt manner.
The really sad part is how many felonies, pay to play, election fraud, intent to destroy evidence or hinder FBI investigation, straight up lies, the list is endless of Clinton crimes, did Reddit find and the FBI failed find even one.
BEST OUTCOME: HRC is elected then impeached within her first couple years. It's a win-win all around: No Trump. First woman elected. HRC and WJC get to be twinsies with that little impeach asterisk after their name in history.
BEST OUTCOME BONUS: Republican party goes the way of the Whigs and is replaced by something resembling rational (or not) and DNC leadership implodes.
MOST BOLD OUTCOME: No change.
MOST BOLD OUTCOME BONUS: Kardashians get another ten seasons. Oh, and decapitation becomes legal in the NFL to avoid brain injury lawsuits.
Misread decapitation as decepticon and got really excited for NFL games. Then realized it was decapitation, and still got a little interested in the NFL.
The fix is probably in via voting machine fraud. Its unaccountable so they wont get caught. Like Assange said, "Trump won't be permitted to win", meaning the establishment already coronated her and all of this was a formality, she will magically win despite having record low voter enthusiasm.
For all the times i said it would never happen, that clinton was pre selected, i must say i was wrong. At some point, the powers that be realized they couldn't keep up the damage control, and bailed on her. Feels good to stand corrected! I apologize to the people whose hopefulness i cynically disregarded with defeatism.
So many friends ( on Facebook and real life) are so upset right now about the way this election turned out. I am thinking of deleting Facebook for the mere fact that so many of these people refuse to see how much more evil hrc was and that she should of been thrown in jail months ago. Is it right that someone can be so vocal about hrc and not anyone else? Should I feel ashamed that I can't support/ join in their frustration that their corrupted messiah didn't win? In a way it's like hrc won the election considering all the posts im seeing on fb right now. I don't know who to side with or show compassion to. Shouldn't we all be happy that a criminal didn't take office? It's very depressing for me to see these people who I care very much about, who I call my closest companions, who I have shared life with, so lost and blind about the world around them. I have this yearning to share the posts that i see up on r/conspiracy with these people but i don't want them to judge me and think I'm some sort of traitor to my own country. Even though a criminal didn't win and knowing this time around that justice might finally be served, I can't share this relief amongst my social circle and this to me is even more defeating than a criminal taking office because I feel like I'm the criminal even though I did not vote for either trump or Hillary. Tonight, I will fall asleep with an internal joy though bittersweet and especially silent because I was not born blind, but with an ability to see the world differently. The world works in mysterious ways and tonight was proof of that. Maybe tonight was planned, maybe it wasn't but it goes to show that we ought to start putting our belief, our strength, and our worries into something that's more true. What that truth is, I don't really know right now but at least we have 4 years to figure it out. Sorry for the long rant but I really had no where else to go or talk to. It's especially comforting to know that some of you might be feeling like this too. Thanks for listening.
I feel you 100 percent. I was on a huge high last night (actually very early this morning) and as soon as I posted the victory, the negativity began. I went to my feed, and Trump supporters were happy but kept it classy. Totally different story with the others. I ended up closing fb and coming back here to see the optimism and hope I felt before. We can't let them take that away from us.
Agreed. It's like everyone was/ still are under some hypnotic spell. I never seen a people mourn for someone like they did for hrc. What were these people hoping for with her in office?
I had to take a break from r/The_Donald because some of these people are fucking delusional.
I want Trump to win as I know Hillary is the worst you can get but some of the posters there have no clue that this election is getting stolen as we speak. They are flooding the forums with posts just saying "landslide!"
I think if every eligible person in America had one honest vote then Trump wins all day. I think most of the fraud will be done in Florida because they can keep it isolated to that state and they know it is a must win for Trump.
I hate the feeling that these numbers are purposefully neck and neck to give us some kind of illusion of hope. Same with these big leads Trump keeps coming upon- when the liberal west is reached, those are all going down the drain.
I'm an independent who mostly has progressive views but I can't stand like 90% of progressive people. They are so damn regressive with how they try and do things. You don't agree with their opinion than you're some kind of ism/ist insult, and they will go out of their way to fuck your life up by getting you fired from your job and publicly shaming you. I fucking loathe the Clintons but the only place to get anti Clinton news is by shifting through that shit show over at The Donald. They are delusional. So much so I honestly think CTR realized this, and they are the ones spamming landslide and the other mumbo jumbo shit coming from there. Egging on their behavior and making them look that delusional.
This isn't a conspiracy, it's a goddamn shit show, we all know crooked Hillarbilly will get crowned despite the votes, and if Trump does get elected he'll be holding his brains Kennedy style for establishment crony Pence to take over.
In the end this whole drama soaked emotional campaign of psyops and mass misinformation will be glossed over by tomorrow or Thursday.
I really wish our vote could elect someone who could impart meaningful change, someone who has the best interests of the people at large. Centralized government is too disconnected from the people it rules, power needs to be disseminated in smaller pockets, where the people that have it can interact with those who support them at a community level.
Here's to 4 more years of increased debt, more wars, more taxes, bigger government, and more secret government cover-ups. In other words, business as usual, regardless of who gets elected, because guess what, the people we elect don't make the rules. They never have, and they never will, the president, and our elected representatives are slaves and PR men for the real rulers.
How utterly hated do you have to be as a candidate, and how incompetent and self serving do your party and your corrupt cronies have to be to lose against a baboon with a comb over? You had Bernie, you stupid morons, and you chose the one everyone hates. Once again America can't be trusted with as much as a piece of string. Someone call the Queen, it's time to make that place a colony again. You lot are clearly unfit to self-govern and all of the CTR idiots, who so smuggly hjacked r politics and ruined the place for everyone have done their part towards this. Seeing them fail feels so good but seeing Trump and not Bernie win makes me sick.
It's finally here, and boy have I been dreading this day.
Tomorrow we will have a corrupt treasonous lying bitch as our new president despite it all.
The chosen one.
It is her turn after all!
I'm not a Trump fan by any means, but thinking about Clinton being the next president after cheating her way to this point (not to mention everything else) truly saddens me. The bitch should be in jail.
Feelings of change are enveloping the nation at the moment and it's hard not getting caught up in it all, but when you are honest with yourself and take a good look at the situation it's easy to see we are not headed towards any positive change and things will most likely be getting worse. Which sucks.
But hey, maybe Trump will win and he really is everything the people over at T_D say he is. I'm not holding my breath though.
Many round here feel like voting is pointless, and it probably is. But the way I look at it that you're not really losing anything by going out and doing it, and on the off chance your ballot doesn't land on a small fire somewhere, well at least you cast your vote.
Grab some alcohol and sit back and enjoy the show. Good luck to us all.
Let me just say this. In that article where the cameraman after a Matt Lauer interview alleged that she flipped out because he asked the wrong question, she supposedly said "if he wins we all hang from nooses." If there is truth to that, that says to me that she doesn't think they can rig it to a degree where it is impossible to lose.
I see one of three things that are almost guaranteed to happen when Clinton is installed as president:
She will escalate things so bad with Russia that nuclear war will break out. She will keep pushing "missile defense systems" capable of launching missiles all the way to Moscow so close to their border that they will feel threatened and snap. I wouldn't blame them either. I can't imagine how Putin feels towards the West. Our leaders literally do not negotiate and use diplomacy. It's war first, talk later. Hillary has said herself several times that she will go hard on Russia. She is an evil war hawk, no doubt about it. At least Trump has talked about de-escalating tensions with them.
There will be massive reports and evidence of voter fraud which will make people so mad that they'll actually do something. Massive riots all over the country and a policeman will end up killing some unarmed kid which will then provoke retaliation. The Second American Civil War. Another more plausible scenario is that Clinton will go hard on the Second Amendment and provoke protests and riots that way.
Another 9/11 false flag attack on the USA to get people to forget everything and go back to the way things were. Another Iraq War, millions more dead in the name of "fighting terrorism". This cycle will continue, and decades later, through the use of new technology and more complex social conditioning, people will be so dumb and sedated that they'll give up all of their rights without resistance, starting with the 2nd. The few true patriots left in the country that fight back will be labeled as crazy evil terrorists and be shot down. Brave New World.
The election will be "pre-determined." The technology exists to do it, and so it will be done. 9/11 was the coup that started it all, the most perceptive among the intelligentsia caught on quickly and were outright co-opted or have generally independently accepted their condition as "peons" who are just along for the ride. Life is a spectacle decided and projected by the establishment elite and realized by the relevant sectors of the economy (media, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, etc.): so just enjoy the "movie" and hope at most for a well-enough paying job while doing it. "Reality" (that antiquated concept)--possibly not even the elites care for/can keep track of it at this point.
“They say we need more money for education. That’s the big answer to everything, education. They say we need more money for books, more teachers, more classrooms, more schools, and more testing for the kids, and they’ll say, well we tried all of that, and the kids still can’t pass the tests. Don’t worry about that, because we’re going to lower the passing grades, and that’s what they do in a lot of these schools. They lower the passing grades so more kids can pass – more kids pass, the school looks goods, and the IQ of the country slips another 2 or 3 points. And pretty soon all you’ll need to get into college is a pencil. Got a pencil? Then get in there, it’s physics!
Then people wonder why 17 other countries graduate more scientist than we do. Education – politicians use that word, they use it on you. Politicians have traditionally hidden behind 3 things: the flag, the bible, and children – no child left behind, no child left behind. Oh, really it wasn’t too long ago you were talking about giving children a head start. Head start – left behind, someone’s losing ground here, but there’s a reason. There’s a reason for this. There’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason it’ll never ever be fixed – it’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it, be happy with what you got, because the owners of this country don’t want that. I’m talking about the real owners now. The wealthy big business interests that controls things, and makes all the important decisions.
Forget the politicians, they’re irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice – you don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and payed for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets, and they own all the big media, so they control just about all the information you get. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying – lobbying, to get what they want.
Well we know what they want. They want more for themselves, and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want – they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that – that doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people that are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table, and think about how badly they’re getting screwed by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? Obedient workers – Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines, and do that paper work. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime, and vanishing pension that disappear the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your social security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it – they’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this place. It’s a big club, and you aint in it. You, and I are not in The Big Club.
By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think, and what to buy.
The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard working people: white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard working people continue (these are people of modest being) – continue to elect these rich douchebags who don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you – they don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all – at all – at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.
That’s what the owners counted on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it.”
Here comes the bullshit. New York Times and AP have called PA for Trump, but no Major Network has called PA for him. Podesta tells all the people at Hillary's HQ to go home and sleep because they won't be conceding tonight.
Anyone else noticing that the music Trump is walking out to is the same music used in the movie Air Force One after Harrison Ford retakes the plane from Russian Terrorists...
Yeah, the longer it goes, the more likely she will win out. He jumped into the lead WAY early and held it for the whole night. If she pulls it off, it will be by the narrowest of margins.
Maybe Soros is playing a game he knows he can't lose. Either Clinton gets elected and he gets more control in US.
Or if Trump gets elected, it gives him the option to make more money with the currency(if dollar crashes like with the Brexit), or it will destabilize the nation.
A live Google feed will come up. If you select: President --> Popular Vote, you can see how well they're doing. It isn't a breakdown by state, but you can extrapolate from the numbers given and figure it out.
In case you were wondering, 3rd party is getting crucified. No matter how ridiculous the Dems and Reps get, somehow everyone still votes for them. This is a herd mentality I'll never understand.
Anyone else really nervous about this shit? I seriously have never been more nervous about an election. Mainly I believe because I feel as if something bad is going to go down. Just saw this... Link was not aware till just now.
Wait for the grand finale... the corruption in America... exposed and removed... and then that money they have been stealing goes right back to society.
Wish I could be that optimistic. We're currently in a battle royale between two wannabe oligarchs that never have and likely never will give anything back to society.
I feel like I'm on death row..and my number is up but they haven't told me if I'm going by legal injection or firing squad . All I know is I'm going to die regardless
Likewise. Not the boot camp part but the nervous part. I get anxious but the nerves I'm feeling now are different. I hope we're wrong man, but logic says they may try something to get attention off the complete and total shitstorm brewing with all the pedo/satanic/occult stuff.
I just want to know how the fuck your username was still available 3 years ago?! Especially as I ended up with my ridiculous name 3 years ago as all the good ones were taken.
Honestly, I would have schooled both of them in debates. Of course my only experience is on reddit, so I have zero backbone but still. I have a degree in pol and reddit
Don't blame Wisconsin, we voted for Bernie. Blame Hillary. She didn't even visit the state once.
I blame her gun control policy. If Democrats would get off guns: 1. The 2nd amendment would be protected by both parties. 2. We could talk about some actual policies.
All my friends voted based on the Supreme Court protecting the 2nd amendment.
Bet your ass its rigged - clinton was just too obviously not what the people wanted especially with criminal investigations, email showing collusion and subversion - you can only fuck the people so much before they revolt --
AND they could let trump win because police state will remain and he'll be surrounded by the usual corrupt gop crowd:
Mob boss chris christi
Underboss Guiliani --
He has a circle of some pretty awful people
So they could let him win.
I call this bitch Daniel Day Lewis cause their will be blood.
Seriously though r/conspiracy in the event of civil unrest have a plan to get to safety, protect yourself from anyone you do not trust and know that the authorities are not your friends.
I'm about 95% sure it won't happen but a load of various groups have been chest pounding about it so off chance. I'm a believer in prep so I think we should be ready for any disaster.
It's unlikely but if it does I hope you keep safe.
There are certain media sources that are pushing this "civil unrest" fear...basically, whatever my parents and in-laws are reading is pushing it, because every phone call, they ask about it...one day it was "will people riot" and another day it was "will there be a terrorist attack?" It's fear to get them to vote Trump...and unfortunately, it's working pretty well. Our parents don't read anything but links from Drudge or Breitbart no matter how much we try to get them to use multiple sources to vet the information they're getting.
So Trump leads after that small town in NH just voted. Pack it up boys we did it! But no we know Hilary will win. It's been a faux movie the whole time and a lot of use ate it up regardless. And we'll do the same thing 4 years from now if we make it that far
Never voted until this year's primary debates. Voted for Sanders , not because I believed in him, but because I thought maybe there was a chance they couldn't steal it if enough people voted against Hillary.
Voted Stein today. Here's why...
Again, I don't believe in this candidate (or my vote being counted for that matter)
I would love to believe Trump is the anti establishment Messiah, but I don't.
Hillary is an absolute monster but nothing we've done, nor the mountain of evidence against her, has stopped her or swayed the lemmings that will vote for her.
I've read on this sub that if the green party gets x% of votes they have to appear at the convention next time (or something like that)
Someone close to me specifically stated that they wouldn't vote green because they voted Nader during the Gore vs Bush election and they believe it cost Gore the election. I'm really not sure if a vote for Stein is a vote for Clinton or a vote for Trump. I don't know which of the two my vote is (hypothetically) helping but I hope my vote for Stein is hurting Clinton.
My hope is that my vote, if counted , will lead to this x% being met, forcing a third party into the limelight next time around.
I really can't believe in spite of everything we still couldn't get people to snap out of their A or B ONLY mentality this time around. There were SO many reasons to try something new.
Also worth noting, I live in CA and I'm fairly certain I was given a provisional ballot during the primary. Me and a lot of friends (some who have voted and some who haven't in the past) were all mailed ballots back in May/June even though this had never happened to any of us before. A lot of us went to our polling places.
This is Reddit Conspiracy so I'm pretty sure everyone is up to date on the theory that all of the Bernie votes that were provisional were tossed. Today I went to the polling place and was told that I had requested an absentee balot. The next three people who came in were also told this. Once again, I was given a provisional ballot.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I also voted Stein but I do like her platform. The percentage is 5%. They get a $10 million federal grant next year and something else I can't remember off the top of my head.
I feel like the fix has been in on this one for a long time so getting to that 5% mark would be the closest thing to a victory of sorts. Thanks for clearing up the percentage and the reward for reaching it!
Well I'm not really sure what to think now. Donald fucking Trump is president. Happy Clinton lost for sure but his win is not a victory for US until we see how it plays out. Crazy
Hillary can be impeached, and we'll get Kaine. Trump can be brought down with a flick, and we'll get Pence. It's too late now, since polls are mostly closed, but it's sort of one of those things where you need to look at the veeps and composition of the cabinet to decide.
It is incredibly unlikely for Trump supporters to get the president they want. The first point to note is that, if Trump were truly anti-establishment and had any chance to win in fair elections, he would probably not have been allowed to run by the Republicans.
But more importantly, the American and international oligarchy has chosen Hillary, so a fair vote in honest elections is highly unlikely. If the elections are not rigged sufficiently and Trump does win (which is a giant if), AND he is actually anti-establishment, then he will probably be assassinated or neutralized in some other way.
Gotta look at the number of votes - they projected an easy win in Indiana, but the 70% to 26% was with less than 1% of the vote in. It's down to 63/32 now that 12% vs 1% are in. But still, Trump will take Indiana and that's no surprise to anyone (but by the time all results are in, they'll be closer).
Any shot they give Trump the presidency in exchange for letting Hillary and Bill and Podesta "disappear". Maybe some sort of pardon? I know Trump isn't leading the charge into digging up their corruption, but he certainly shined a huge light on them which caused a lot of Americans to wake up.
I'm calling it right now: Clinton "wins," but Trump gets the Snitch.
Here's what I mean: Clinton will be our next president. It doesn't matter who voted for whom. Votes are being switched around and the electoral college will vote any damn way it pleases. But Trump will get the popular vote in the country. He gets the one thing that SHOULD matter, but still loses.
The electors don't get to vote any way they please. Many of the states require the electors to vote for the popular winner, and many states allow the parties to bond electors to the party. There aren't very many "free" electors.
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If Bernie rightfully got the nod over Clinton, I imagined more Clinton supporters would back him over the current situation of Bernie voters backing her. Reason being Bernie would have won fair and square and Clinton voters would not mind voting for him to stop Trump.
But the current reality is that many people are NOT voting for Clinton as former Berners, because why would they? The primary was stolen from them? The DNC wanted their golden hag to win it all.
Plus, her campaign manager and his affiliates are into pedophilia and spirit cooking. Not that I care but I'm not really into that stuff. Bernie's chance was stolen and the wikileaks prove that the DNC rigged the primaries. Either way, Trump in my eyes is decently better than Hilary and her warmongering. Not that presidents have full control over every policy making decision but still.
I'm happy on a really visceral level that Clinton's getting a run for her money, and on many levels I'm gonna be happy as hell that she doesn't win, if only to restore my faith in our ability to actually choose shit in this country, but god damn if I'm not terrified of what a Trump presidency will look like with his vows to impede green initiatives and progress against climate change.
OMG the commentary live on CNN is just disgusting it is absolutely so full of shit. The character attacks and bias failed you and you failed to do your duties as journalists. Hopefully they will all go bankrupt.
It baffles my brain just how out of touch the media are with the people in 2016. As a UK citizen I can tell you it was exactly the same with Brexit from the BBC. The people have spoken in their masses yet they still continue with their warped and biased agendas.
Ya as a US citizen I trust the BBC more than any of our mainstream media sources, but I know what you are saying. I wasn't surprised by Brexit seems to me a whole lot of benefit taking extremists shipped out to Syria or Jail I wouldn't want to welcome the next wave either.
Forget them. The mainstream media sold the last of it's meagre credibility in a last ditch all out propaganda war for Hillary.
They lost. Their time is over.
The heroes of this election are the alt and indie media who kept it real throughout the campaign and provided people with a counterpoint when the entire global media was providing only one monolithic viewpoint. The MSMs collusion and blatant bias has done nothing except ensure the rise of indie and citizen media... Internet killed the news corporation.
Alex Jones can be a moron sometimes, but his site is more accurate than most of the msm. I read a WAPO article this afternoon that picked winners and losers and they admitted that they were losers but in the same sentence denied bias. Un be lievable
They won't let him win. My prediction: FL tips for Clinton by 1-2%, PA stays blue.
I'm keeping an eye on Michigan because I know they have strict voter laws. If it turns red, should be a clear indicator that something is fucky in other states.
Yes, the man who was in bed with the Clintons until a few years ago will win in a seemingly rigged election. Elections aren't about winning everyone over, it's about winning just enough and throwing enough shit towards the other person to get by as their voters jump ship. Trump loses nothing by getting slandered by Clinton. There's a reason why the more popular he got, the more outlandish things he said. His job was never to try and win, it was just to destroy the credibility of the GOP (Jeb is ruined, Rubio probably wont win back his Senate seat, lying Ted is mostly tarnished) and make Hillary look good by comparison as he made himself look like a fool and took a bunch of shit.
When people get on here and claim the NWO/Zionists/Illuminati run the world and that the election is already fixed do you really believe they only had one candidate and that Trump is some sort of messiah? It boggles my mind that one of the most fraudulent and arrogant men in the world has managed to convince large groups of people that he is a holy pariah, free of all political sin and that he's here to wash away the sins of the establishment and MAGA!
On the Hillary side I also find it interesting that people have so much faith in the FBI when they have been confirmed to have MURDERED MLK and all the dastardly deeds done in COINTELPRO including murdering Black Panthers.
Of course they still do. But let me give you some insight on something that will expose the contradictions on the other side. You know how you have all these Trump supporters or people against Hillary saying the DOJ is corrupt? How on one hand can they call them corrupt yet cite the FBI studies about blacks and crime? You would think that they would know that the stats they're citing are limited (because of the way the FBI collects and how they collect from) and that the BJS, which is a part of the DOJ, would have the most stats (and they do).
So the hypocrisy is uncanny with these people, I've never seen anything like it before in my life.
Guess what was NOT EVEN MENTIONED before Trump brought it up this election? TPP.
Nor does anyone speak out against the globalist takeover of our country until Trump did.
You people act like all he's ever said is that Hillary is bad, when that's bullshit: he's gone directly against the globalist NWO agenda on multiple fronts.
They're friends. That guy who wasn't even a Republican until he turned 65 harshes Paul Ryan harder than he's ever harshed Clinton. You'd think Republicans would wonder about that.
To riff on the MLK and cointel stuff - there is absolutely SO MUCH happening in the news now, we don't know what's up and don't track anything for more than a half news cycle, missing real badness and corruption. One recent example, who murdered Darren Seals and why?
For a long time I thought Trump would be better. But hear me out why Clinton might actually be the better president. Trump is pulling an Obama on us. Once in he won't do what we hope, and then the "left" is going to rage and rage about social issues (sexism/race/lgbt) instead of government/war/corruption.
If Clinton wins then the "left" will magically think all the social issues are solved and have nothing else to focus on except war/corruption. Scary Trump will no longer be a reason to turn a blind eye to Clinton. So with Trump we will get a defusement of the population and only anger at trivial/divisive issues. With Clinton the anger will stay directed at the real problems. Because neither candidate will actually fix things, so I feel maybe we are being played with Trump as another Obama, to pacify the right this time. Trump would actually be a brilliant move for the globalists if this is true.
(Disclaimer: I would never vote for a neocon like Clinton nor encourage you to. Just reflecting on the benefits of the likely outcome.)
I love watching the newscasters stumble around trying to avoid saying that Trump has a lead, referring to him as the republican and then breaking in with Hillary Clinton has won...or has a considerable lead in....I don't give a toss who wins but it is so blatantly manipulated that it's disgusting. My only joy is watching them squirm as Trump slowly picks them off. It's like they are off script.
I think a tie could be forced and then Clinton is in. It would make sense that theyd have a fallback plan in case things went downhill. I bet HRC has a few states in her back pocket to keep trump from getting the 270. Then it goes to a house vote which puts her in
What do we do if the election is stolen? From the way Alex Jones is reporting on it, Trump will win, everybody will know he won and they still give it to Hillary. If thats the case....we will be in a civil war.
I am fairly confident that the clean FBI and CIA have been reorganizing for years in an effort to bring down the corruption they have all been witnessing for far too long...
I'm guessing... no matter what happens with the election, they are prepared to gobble up the dirtiest of the dirty in one big swoop.
Correct... but there has to be a large portion of the agent workforce that do not agree with what they have seen.
I predict this will go down like the RICO case in The Dark Knight... with Comey being the Harvey Dent... I believe in Comey. I've looked long and hard at him and his decisions. I think he is prolly fuckin' super-legit.
I don't have any insider sources... but I've spent a long time headed down the rabbit hole to reach this conclusion. I honestly fear for my safety if it doesn't come true.
I declare Clinton the winner, you heard it here first (via Michigan and Virginia and Iowa [wherein trickery is afoot]...) Bear in mind this was scripted all along.
It's more important what happens after this right? If Hillary doesn't get prosecuted this is all for nothing.
I don't get what's going on right now. Trump is winning? But what if the provisional ballots go in Clinton's favour? Isn't that what happened to Bernie. I'm seriously stupid and would like to learn more
It's the electoral college, based on population in a state, determined during census periods.
Each states get a certain amount of votes in the electoral college. Because we use the electoral college, and not the popular vote, the election is won on a state by state basis. Win the big "swing" states and win the election.
Sam Wang via Princeton Election Consortium: "11:44pm: The business about 65%, 91%, 93%, 99% probability is a sideshow. Instead, the key point here is that the entire polling industry – public, campaign-associated, aggregators – ended up with data that missed tonight’s results by a very large margin. There is now the question of understanding how a mature industry could have gone so wrong. And of course, most of all, there is the shock of a likely Trump presidency."
I was sitting down talking with my mother about this few months ago. I remember saying that: "In the event that Trump wins presidency and Hillary doesn't, HRC and every other Elite organization out there will have strings on him just as soon as he gets inaugurated, if not now. We were so busy worrying about Hillary's shit and exploiting her, we didn't stop and think maybe this what they want us to and this is how its going to be planned out." Not particularly worried if he wins, all race issues and ignorance aside, I'm more so worried on the time span from now to January and the FFs, riots, and eventual martial law that's going to come with it, if a nuke doesn't happen first.
Also, I remember some idiot on here had high votes on a post (probably a shill) talking about how Hillary was the supposed Whore of Babylon and all that shit. Hell, even the race wars are in the Bible as well and the BLM movement and all this bogus shit is just playing into the hands of a war we should've seen come since JFKs assassination
I live in Texas and I seriously hope that jobs open up because he kicks the illegals out and im damn serious about that. You could not believe the amount of money these illegals make. I mean I am a law abiding us navy vet and I get 10hr (at least when I was working construction related jobs) and they got brand new trucks, 17 hr, 80 hours every week. I got a broke down truck that i wore the transmission out on because I had to use it for work. It pisses me off so bad. Also they are thieves and that shit aint cool either.
Right now, he's got a 1.3% lead in PA (AP called it for him already). He's got 1.8% lead in MI. He's up by 4.1% in AZ, and 15% in AK. Usually, those numbers hold pretty steady when you're over 80% of the vote count, like all but AK are right now.
A. Hillary made the elites mad. So they decided to give it to Trump.
B. Trump made them mad. So they decided to give it to Trump.
C. Possibly a third-term for Obama, so it won't matter.
D. A bizarre combination of all of the above
What is there to say at this point? I haven't heard one issue discussed for thirty seconds on or in mainstream media except for the two primary candidates' top talk point:
HRC: DJT sucks
DJT: HRC sucks far more than I do
That's it. The most informed folks I know think we are in the decline phase of the empire and this is an election choice between Nero and Caligula.
I am not nearly so pessimistic and I prefer to view it as Bugs Bunny versus Daffy Duck. The theme.
A Daffy person myself. Which one is Daffy you ask? Two words: secret ballot.
Just saw a "Trump gets booed at his polling station" story. Probably planted by Clinton's campaign. I wouldn't put it past them, given that they sent people to his rallies to incite violence.
Good point, but the amount of fuckery the Clinton campain, DNC, and MSM have pulled this election cycle just causes me to automatically ignore anything they say as false and jump straight to a "it was planned/rigged" mindset. I can't help it. The crock of shit they have stewed up has just completely turned me off of what they have to say, and I am definitely not the only one.
A razor thin defeat was promised to Trump to make his "services" worth his while, he becomes an even bigger celebrity as a result of his razor thin loss: more money more business. He comes out "bigly" despite his loss.
I can't believe this. Hillary, you made this happen. If it weren't trump about to win, I'd shout in happiness that this cheater lost. But god damnit she could have just ruined our country for this chase to be president at any cost. YOU DID THIS TO US. YOU HILLARY
That fucking Bitch and the Corrupt DNC. i hope this bites them in the ass hard enough for them to take a valuable lesson from this. Bernie would have annihilated trump.
I was certain that TBPB will puch HRC through with North Korea style 160% votes. Either Trump is for real and they couldn't do anything about it (which explains HRC not showing up to give a speech at her HQ - she wasn't prepared for that), or the rabbit hole is way deeper than we think.
I think rigging 50 contests simultaneously in one evening was a tall order. They focused on strategic states but the gap between HRC and Trump was larger margin than they could cover reasonably.
I think there was a last minute grab contemplated for PA, because at 2:30ish the AP amended the number of precincts reports from 98% to 89%. It was odd as fuck and talking heads were talking about absentee ballots possibly tipping the results towards Clinton. A few minutes later they walked it back and definitively confirmed Trump won the state.
Yeah I've heard of the PA shmuckery. Also explains why the news outlets didn't call it until the last minute, even when it was way past the point of no return. And then had absolutely nothing to say other than "he won, I don't believe it."
YEP! It was hard to watch. I kept waiting for some shenanigans of "found votes" or legal battles from HRC's lawyers to contest and this dragging in for weeks.
I did! They kept fearmongering that the stock market was going to crash because Trump won. It's just like Brexit all over again, the U.K. economy bounced back rather quickly unlike they predicted.
It's simple really, they never had to rig a national election. There was never anything at stake for the biggest elites, anyone unfriendly to them was always filtered out before. And they couldn't get anything votes couldn't beat ready in time when the media tricks didn't work.
Question: Will Hilary actually be investigated? I read that Obama is asking Trump to visit the White House this upcoming Thursday. Will they discuss her situation?
Although I feel relieved that Trump won the election instead of Hillary, I wouldn't be suprised if TPTB has something in store to enrage the already pissed off masses all over the country into civil unrest. I have a feeling that the global elites and the mainstream media will blame upcoming false flags events and financial turmoil on Donald Trump. It's going to be an interesting 4 years.
Agreed.... If I just spent a large sum of money (Billions) and realized those promises won't be met because my horse slipped in the mud (not happy).
It just takes a few people to start a march to protest your opinion and once its big enough, you add some violence for added chaos with a riot shortly to follow.
If nothing else I'm glad a lot of people, who previously dismissed the corruption as mere conspiracy, have had their eyes opened to exactly how corrupt media, government and business interests are. In Hillary, we have the perfect node to link up all the interlinking pieces. And it's for that and that alone that I thank her. I hope she wins... that's the only way she'll be held to account. Think about it - Hillary Clinton. President of America. Getting grilled in congress about the CF. You have ambitious republicans with careers to launch, as well as older heads with scores to settle. Not to mention Bernie. I need one of you guys to tell me I'm not just being wilfully naive when I say that the real reckoning will come once she's won. Just lay it on me .. I can take it.
She'll be President of the United States. Just look at what she was able elude just being the wife of a former President who himself was impeached and you tell me she won't get away with EVERYTHING. If Hillary wins, she wins. At this point I'm fairly certain she only wants the presidency so she can pardon herself.
Side note: wtf reddit - took me an hour going through the mobile app and couldn't find a single /r/conspiracy post. It's been like this two days now....
If trump wins, this thread is going to lose it's shit.
We've been shitting on hillary for weeks, saying how it was a garuntee, how the elite would never let it happen. If this goes down, I literally may have hope
Very true, I'm holding my breath hoping that America is a bit smarter to pick trump than hilary. Don't get me wrong I wasn't entirely enthusiastic about voting for trump... but there was no way in hell I was voting for Hillary or throwing my vote to a guy who praises hillary and Obama and supports tpp
It looks like the MSM correspondence are about to cry, digging for counties that Clinton needs to win. The Dow futures are down 700 points, this is an interesting night. Is Trump really gonna win?
Not arguing that they're much different, but the wedding thing means very little.
People attend weddings of those they know professionally or who run in the same circles all the time. Weddings are one of those "polite" events where you attend to network and make an appearance even if you have no particular attachment to the bride/groom. You go to be seen, especially true of weddings of the rich and powerful.
I dont think its very complicated, the 1% of people are simply interested in preserving as much of their money as they can, or find ways to make money. They dont care about wars, its all about tax loopholes and investment laws
If he wins, it's because either A: the system isn't rigged in the way we thought it was, or B: they realized that he would do more to cause chaos in the streets than she would.
Trump is the scapegoat, and even he doesn't know it. I think some of us knew it, but it got passed off as a really shitty conspiracy theory. That being said, why isn't anyone talking about this meeting in Alaska? LOOL.
If this country does end up going to shit, whose side do you think the army will take? I would really hate to see that our army is full of thugs waiting to beat up and bully the very same people they are suppose to be protecting.
And if you're in the army or anything please do not take offense. I am just trying to think of this with an open mind.
Likely results, if Hillary's side can't rig the vote enough to win, is Trump in the WH, Republicans in majority in the Senate and in Congress, and their choice of appointment for the SCOTUS.
Wikileaks has amply demonstrated oligarchy rules; the Democratic party has become the preferred choice of said oligarchy (Republicans are dragged down by retrograde baggage in comparison). The Democratic party through the magic of predictive analytics not only anticipated, but created the main strategic geography of this election, right down to the ex-nihilo “Pied Piper” persona of Donald Trump (again per Wikileaks’ revelations). The purpose, besides winning of course, is twofold, use the creation of the strategic geography to control, indeed “drive” the election to the desired outcome; to present said strategic geography as alibi in the case of an even more controlled and technically pre-determined outcome–in which case the aforesaid alibi of the magic of predictive analytics serves to mask the outright falsity of the election results.
Perhaps, but probably not on either country's own soil. I think the US will get more aggressive in every country Russia is meddling with, and the number of those countries will go up. Call it a luke-warm war.
You know, maybe Trump can shake things up and make it interesting. I can't believe he is leading right now. I thought Hilary would have a red carpet laid out to the White House but this is kinda proof that the votes are not rigged all the time. How could Trump be a part of the plan? So much potential for fuckery.
What about his business? Is it not a conflict of interest to have your own companies and be president?
Establishment Republicans continue to dominate House, retain control of Senate. Nothing changes, Clinton wins, but will govern essentially as another establishment fiscal Republican.
There's a chance Republicans could win all 3 tonight. Presidency, Houuse and Senate. Does that speak towards the shift in change in voting in the USA? We may have not won the war, but in future years we could win!
Even if it does, Minnesota and Michigan are going red. I'm an az resident and can't believe we are going blue.
Edit: I don't give a shit about colors I care about us and our progress. Trump may be the last revolt before the eminent collapse.. or he could be the play we all didn't see coming.
are you sure that "our side" wasn't the rigged side all along? isn't population control about imbuing the people with a false sense of choice and freedom to continue to implement control? lool.
There's no doubt in my mind that Trump is an easily, corrupt malleable politician for the bankers and the corporatists. He might even be into that occult voodoo shit like Hilary, who knows.
My reddit feed is normally full of /r/ DNCLeaks, Wikileaks, conspiracy, and anarchism. Not a single post from those subs is popping up on my feed now, even for 500 posts down.
I see a Hillary Presidency as an exercise in cautious incrementalism on the part of the NWO. They know they dodged a bullet. People are waking up too fast. They've been too aggressive this millennium. I see them slowing down and letting things cool down.
Great timing on this sticky. The wrong way to do it would have been to post this a month ago and deleted everything election related from the sub. Good job Mods!
A few questions: How does a presidential pardon work? Can Obama pardon Hillary if she loses (not likely, just entertain the idea), in order to try and cover his own ass because he is, at the very least, implicated in the server scandal? Or can the president only pardon people if they have charges against them?
If Hillary does win, I don't think Obama will pardon her at all because she'll be able to pardon herself once she's in and pardoning her would only make him look suspicious.
Is it possible at all that the rank and file of the FBI know this and are planning on letting her steal the election so that they can have evidence of intent and then also execution, and then timing her arrest for the moment of transition of power, so that Obama can't pardon anyone, and she won't have had any time to pardon herself?
These are just my random, probably too hopeful thoughts this morning.
This election is one big distraction. Everyone is focused on it. Guess what happens when you aren't looking. Atrocity. There will be no news of the DAPL protest today. They don't want you to hear it. But it will be a great time and excuse for them to take out people who oppose them through death or prison. Just wait. If and when they are heard from again, it will have gotten much worse.
I realized yesterday that there is NO way they let Trump win. There is fraud all over right now. He needs a landslide just to win by .1%
I put $1300 on HRC last night so that I can take my winnings and invest it in trying to get a re-vote or re-count. I pray to God I lose this bet tonight though. I will be so fucking happy.
Read elsewhere: "Ironically, Iowa is overperforming the polling and benchmarks, though it’s early. If we lose Wisconsin, hold Michigan, but hold Iowa, Clinton wins 275-263. Wouldn’t it be something if Iowa emerged from the polling graveyard to save the Republic?"
My guess is, we got to wrapped up in Hillary's bullshit to see the actual threat. Either way, whatever happens next, there will be a war to end all wars. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.
Would be an interesting 4 years of Trump wins. I'm from the UK, so with us leaving the EU and Trump being in power over in the US, it will make for chaos. In an odd way (if trump wins), I think it shows that the people are slowly starting to turn away from doing what we are told. Politics aside, the fact that million will go out and vote for things to be different (actual difference, completely unthinkable) gives me a small bit of hope for the planet. Perhaps we are not nations of drones?
A great satisfaction to see Hillary lose. Democracy and peace won. You might not like it, but the excercise of democracy implies that things might turn out in a way you don't expect. Instead of blurting out opinions, reflect, study and try to comprehend the Zeitgeist of happenings.
i just reviewed the US map by region and Trump majority. about 90 pc of the US voted for Trump. The Hillary voters are DC, by large majority, Maryland, LA and SF, Seattle...and Hispanic areas in Texas, Az, Ca... So some opinion. DC is the core of corruption in the US, and radiates out, eg MD. the LGBT and Hispanic vote accounts for the West coast Hillary vote. Maine and Michigan? dk.
Facts. I know it was smeared as such but as I hear it, the gal who said she got screwed had previously made commercials for it saying how great it was...
all the elections are rigged. trump wins, he's winning because he's a scapegoat, and what happens after tonight till January 21st, will prove whether or not the Elites have the influence we really think they do.
yeah, that dude. I remember reading something about it over the summer on my own findings, but to actually see it on the subreddit is strange, to me, i suppose.
Can someone direct me to a link or explain the whole cerebral palsy kid? I know he got kicked out of the rally but it seems to me trump didn't even know he was disabled and went off for the narrative about the paid shills at trump rallies
+++Breaking News+++ US Coast Guard reports people swimming from Florida to Cuba for the first time ever+++ Boat prices in Miami skyrocketing+++Spanish language class bookings up 900%+++
The narrative usually implies that there is a secret behemoth pulling the strings behind the curtains and that regardless of vote or hope their puppet will always win, today that narrative was dismantled. Many times did I hear that Hillary was fixed to win, drummed in my ear, bought and paid for etc. Bottom line, there is no boogeyman fixing the vote, people are just either smart or stupid. Most of the times stupid (dnc), but so is human nature. Let's see how this plays out.
The only reason she didnt win is because we caught all the vote manipulation and machine "malfunctions" during the election process. She needed waayy more than the homeless and deceased votes, and those were due to come from the corrupt machines. Look at the states they held off on calling forver last night - AZ, MI, PA, WI - all of these states had massive machine malfunctions and ballots thrown out. The race was ridiculously close, she lost by 1-2% in these locations and those are the votes they had to rig to win. You cant rig an election and win by +5-9 pts in battle grounds, its too "coincidental". Thats also why they were refusing to call it for trump, they literally recounted PA because they couldnt believe we out voted their "fix". No damn way it took an east coast state til 2:45am to count votes and release the electoral winner. This race was over when she lost FL and OH. At the end they were just clinging for a sweep in hopes of a 269 tie.
They definitely were trying to fix the election and I saw all the same fluctuations of vote% and DOW#'s across Fox/CBS/NBC/PBS. When they showed the counties of PA that were "undecided" I actually knew of 3 that are legitimately redder than Texas. Surprisingly, or not, all 3 of these counties are major union/industrial areas for blue collar crowd. Fix the election or we fuck your retirement type fears.
Too close to call my fucking ass. Every one of those news stations knew the fix was in, they were all holding off because they didnt want to be the first to go against the queens wishes.
All kinds of funny business was going on. Trump was ahead in Virgina and Hillary surged ahead 6% in the last 8% reporting. NH counts were just not coming, leaving a path open for hillary. Maybe they were waiting for everybody to go to sleep and find some more votes that were 'missed'. Counties all over the us map were holding out reporting, playing a wait and see game trying to figure out how many ballots they needed. CA was called for Hillary 1 minute after the polls closed giving Hillary an artificial momentum.
There was so much bullshit! the media just stalling waiting for a miracle. while the vote counters tried to get it close enough to go for a recount.
I'm glad everyone else noticed the PA stuff and I wasn't just seeing things.
Around 1:45-2 am eastern, I was watching the fox stream in bed. At that point I was just waiting for them to call PA and NYT had Trump at >95% to win.
I knew he was going to win but I was just trying to stay awake until it was official. Then Podesta went in front of the Clinton supporters telling everyone they're not doing anything until all the votes were counted and CNN kept acting like there was still some kind of chance Hillary would win, so I didn't want to miss it somehow if it did happen.
At about 2 am, I saw that PA was 98% and fox said they didn't want to call it yet, but some other websites and stuff had already called it for Trump. I figured I'd find out any second now since they only had 2% to go.
5 or 10 minutes later, fox shows the PA graphic and somehow it said 68%? I was absolutely confused and kept trying to think how the fuck I saw it so wrong just 10 minutes earlier. I checked NYT and somehow his percentage fell all the way down to like 70 something.. so I said fuck it at around 2:15, really confused and wondering if there was some sort of fuckery afoot or if I was just too tired to read properly.
So I went to sleep. I wake up later and see that my mom had texted me at 2:45 am from work saying they called it for Trump. About 20 mins after I said fuck it and went to sleep because PA had somehow dropped 20-30% in counts like they just lost votes somehow.
The whole thing was bizarre and I'm glad other people were noticing things got weird.
Agree. There's been a espionage war going on for awhile now. I strongly suspected our guys were in place. Guys with guns. I hope we get the real story some day.
I was appalled when Molesta Podesta came out and said go home we will figure this out in the morning. HAHAHAHA NOPE, Im going to hear my President announced tonight. None of this recount shit before the first count is official.
So what you are saying is that there is indeed a "man" behind the scenes but he's so incompetent he loses a rigged race? You understand how moronic you have to be to lose a rigged race? So the "man" with all its chemtrails, power, influence, and unlimited wealth couldn't control a couple voting machines? They look pretty stupid and harmless from where I'm standing. There is a real "man" in Myanmar for instance, they are called the junta, way less influent or resourceful but they win every year.
But there was, it just didn't work. Rigging an election is hard but it can be done. If the electoral and popular vote were closer, you'd bet they would of rigged it.
Good luck with that, the pattern is that when something happens that breaks that conspiracy narrative (like Hillary losing) there is a paradigm shift that corrects itself to agree that whatever happened did so to further the "illuminati" agenda, next up you'll see that somehow they managed to get to trump too, and the cycle continues. The tinfoil runs deep
No. Trump won in a landslide and the media knows it. It was such a blow out they would have been an investigation if she did win. (or if they were to show trump winning in a landslide, rioting may have been worse) This is the powers that be trying to maintain control so they can steal it again at another opportunity. The illusion that is 'close' is so that all the methods of cheating can stay in place.
i mean people got the clinton loss so many were pushing for, but the question now is at what cost and why. the very nature of elections in the US have so many people believeing that its all a show and voting is rigged anways so what is trumps purpose in this system? hes clearly not the outsider people want to imagine him being, hes been involved with the elites ,even looking awfully friendly to the Clintons for most of his life. you can go back 20 years or only just a handful of years back and hes said positive things about many of the people he 'ran against'. many of the people i have seen on lists of potential cabinet members are still the same corporate elite / establishment members.
im just amazed at how slow people have been to try and grapple with the idea that we voted a corrupt businessman(who has always used his money to sit at the edges of politics) in instead of a corrupt politician
trumps possibly a puppet and was picked to win( of russia or god knows who else) or the grand conspiracy about voting being rigged is not true ( and then likely many others connected to it)
his temperament should scare everyone, look at how much the past few presidents aged during their terms and now imagine a man so impulsive that openly basically said comey was a partisan hack, a hero to his country, and then a partisan hack within the span of a few days. now apply that sith mentality all day everyday for years
tldr i know for many the celebrations of a non clinton presidency are still going but i wonder what is to happen when the reality of a trump presidency sets in
i wonder what is to happen when the reality of a trump presidency sets in
Well, he would essentially be the republican version of Obama. False hope, no change. However, what's interesting is that if this were the case (which my gut tells me it is) it could reveal to a larger population - a population starting to wake up and is getting involved in populist movements - that leaders of these movements can be shills and controlled by the same system (or 'the powers that be'), essentially cut from the same cloth. If that's the case....fuck, we've got a long way to go.
Upon further review, the popular/electoral vote split had to be intentional, especially given how monumental this election was. It's simply too "out there".
If this election was rigged what are the benefits to having it rigged?
Trump wants to eliminate the American ties to the TPP which has some serious ties to the Clinton Foundation
Building a wall and restoring our military bases
Removing universal health care (obamacare)
And creating a tax structure that will essentially make the dollar weak enough to support a more manufacturing and exporting "American made" goods at a cheaper price
the top 1% will only become more wealthy and because of smaller government the rich will have far more power.
The Elites are going to collapse the Economy on him since we're in a massive bubble, then point the finger at him and make us wish for our old politicians back (NWO). They're very smart. It's coming children.
Elites are shitting their pants as the countdown to the "transfer of power" ticks down with Trump still alive and well.
A lot of focus by the media on his plane... which didn't blow up.
Anyone notice them investigating one of Clintons planes last night on the news? They said they were "removing their names from the side" but there was something else going on for sure.
The people are fucked regardless so what difference does it make?
On one hand I want Hillary to be their selection. This way, I get to see all the crazy shit the Trump supporters come up with. They were on the mans dick like crazy so seeing them cry, scream and go nuts is very appealing to me.
On the other hand I want Trump to win. The reason for this is so he will show his true colors and treat those who felt they were disenfranchised and marginalized like shit. This way, their entitlement is flushed down the toilet and they can take a step back and evaluate themselves.
The popcorn, chips, candy and other junkfood I have is going to fuck up my workout regime as I already had my cheat day but this is a once in a life time event. A woman selected as president? A rich troll selected as president? LMAO!
Ideally, in this situation, Clinton elected with majority Republican in Congress. Or a Constitutional crisis that gets the CIA's boy McMullin in.
I've been trying, trying to prep my loved ones who are credulously clinging to Trump for the inevitable troll, but it hasn't been successful. Eyes and ears closed and I'm worried how they'll handle it when they realize what they've done.
Okay so Trump said repeatedly that the election was rigged. Then he won. Did he ever say who was rigging the election? I mean, everyone took it to mean he was complaining about it being rigged against him, what if he was bragging instead?
I think a lot of you anti-Hilary folks are forgetting that Trump too is as much of a puppet as she is. Of course they're handing her the seat, why else do you think they had Trump run? Much easier to stomach a Clinton victory in this election if the other candidate is so distasteful.
It might be a waste of a vote but screw it, if I'm voting then I'm voting for the alternatives to these candidates, it's not like voting Clinton or Trump is any less of a waste in this sham.
why is it assumed that only hillary will cheat? republicans have been cheating elections for years. THINK ABOUT FLORIDA and who the governor is. This can be rigged either way
but there are still republicans in power (like florida governor rick the skelton man Scott) that will very much want trump to win. Im just trying to say its very much possible either side rigs this election, its not impossible. Most people on reddit werent even born in 2000 when we saw one of the most rigged elections in our history
Do you understand what "rigged" means? It means heavily and covertly weighted towards one outcome. It doesn't mean "fixed" which is a guaranteed outcome. Fixing carries a much higher risk of detection than rigging.
This was a landslide, without the ghost votes and buses and the collusion of the entire media and all the other tricks the Dems would have been wiped off the map.
For them it was an election, business as usual but for the people who voted against Hillary, against "the swamp"...for them this was a revolution.
The best part about this election is that if Hillary wins, no matter how legitimate it seems, trump babies will cry rigged the whole way back to mom and dad's attic. The thing is she didn't even need to rig this election because of the sheer hilarity in her opposition. She will win because trump is a failure and we can add this to all his failures
Hillary will win, and as much as I wish that she has to cheat to win (and get caught and impeached), she will in fair and square because what rational, educated person sees the joke of Donald trump being a better president? My hope is these next 4 years blow by quickly, we don't have a war, status quo is maintained, we get liberal leaning judges in 2017 (unless the right continues to disrupt and make a farce of their jobs) or after the midterms, and then in 2020 a real progressive like Bernie, BUT with better implementations of their ideas, and we move on from this cycle of elitism. One can only hope for that future
Edit. Wow peeps. No sense of humor today? Playing nice is boring though I was joking and looking . forward to not seeing people tearing one another to shreds over 2 crap candidates. We deserve better.
Enjoy having a fascist, an autocrat and a demagogue as president. I'm slightly consolidated by the fact that I get to now witness all you Trump supporters slowly come to hate him as he does absolutely nothing you support and further fucks this country over.
I know plenty of Trump voters who aren't rapists. That said, they are playing a serious game of "see no evil, hear no evil" and "speak evil every once in awhile." They aren't even willing to discuss it with me when I bring up facts, they just say, "I've made up my mind." I think it's tougher for them because they KNOW I'm not a Clinton fan and have despised those people for decades, but fuck if I'm going to let them go through life thinking Trump is some kind of messiah. And they know he's not a messiah, but just can't, at this point, handle the reality that they're being clowned.
If you got enough people to do it sure, but you won't. The best course of action is mass organized protest on the capital. They won't admit it, but the jails are overcrowded as it is. They can only "arrest" so many people before they have to start thinking of a better solution. Force the government to shut down. Block them from getting to their jobs, shut down the streets around government facilities and make them listen. The international media, corrupt or not, will have no choice but to cover it. Refuse to cease and desist until they take action. Do not get violent but don't back down. Make them call the police and then the Army. If they continue to escalate the situation with weapons and violence, the outside world, (Other first-world countries), will get involved. If there is enough outrage, they will have no choice but to give in.
Holy smokes! He's exactly the same, and he predicted the early 90s recession, too! Incredible. I keep hearing people say he's a crook or fraud, but I've never seen a shred of evidence. Can someone enlighten me to this supposed evidence?
We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability.
Yeah, seems consistent to me. The same guy who is a long time friend of the Clintons and every other powerbroker in the United States who will give him the time of day. The same guy who defrauded people with his "university." I hope I somehow missed the sarcasm.
IMHO, anyone who votes is functionally retarded. If a person honestly believes that the global elite will allow the common joe to decide the leadership of the most advanced and richest country on the face of the Earth, by filling in a bubble next to a name, then yeah...functionally retarded in my book.
I'll still take Trump over HRC if given the choice. There's a chance Trump really is a well-meaning idiot who will moderately fuck up the country for a few years. That seems preferable to WW3.
I'm not American, but I can assure you that this looks utterly bizarre from my viewpoint too. You have a woman, who is obviously a criminal, running for office and nobody is brave enough to stop her. This is the kind of shit you expect to see in the most corrupt nations in Africa, but not in the US. Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive enough to think that corruption isn't rife in all governments, but this is taking it to a whole new level. They are flaunting it right out in the open, for the whole world to see.
If everyone stopped paying taxes, the feds would just print more money. Taxes only fund local governments. Federal taxes are there to ensure you (a) have less income and (b) to force people to use their currency.
20 trillion in debt.
Adding over a trillion per year.
The strength of the US Dollar as a world currency is dependent on being used to pay for oil.That is a huge part of what the middle east war is about now.The USA is currently losing the wars in the middle east, the petrodollar is in grave danger of losing it's status.When that happens expect very high inflation.
Also the economic numbers put out by the US government are fake.All total BS.
not only that, but they interfere with both china and the western elites NWO plans.
Please tell me what these plans are, and how they will accomplish them in a post-nuclear world. There will be nothing to accomplish, the surface of the planet will be ruined, and everyone remaining will be living on borrowed time. There's no point, and no order remaining or even possible.
Correct... but there has to be a large portion of the agent workforce that do not agree with what they have seen.
I predict this will go down like the RICO case in The Dark Knight... with Comey being the Harvey Dent... I believe in Comey. I've looked long and hard at him and his decisions. I think he is prolly fuckin' super-legit.
I feel like the fix has been in on this one for a long time so getting to that 5% mark would be the closest thing to a victory of sorts. Thanks for clearing up the percentage and the reward for reaching it!
The electors don't get to vote any way they please. Many of the states require the electors to vote for the popular winner, and many states allow the parties to bond electors to the party. There aren't very many "free" electors.
There's no doubt in my mind that Trump is an easily, corrupt malleable politician for the bankers and the corporatists. He might even be into that occult voodoo shit like Hilary, who knows.
One politician being manipulated by a cult makes sense. there is evidence, it's happened many times before. Rasputin being the prime example.
arguing that dozens if not hundreds of high level politicians are all in on a child kidnapping/molesting occult society with the bare minimum of evidence is ridiculous.
I can believe that most of them collude and work together to screw us over pretty easily. Saying they are devil worshipping pedophiles is just kind of dumb.
Agreed.... If I just spent a large sum of money (Billions) and realized those promises won't be met because my horse slipped in the mud (not happy).
It just takes a few people to start a march to protest your opinion and once its big enough, you add some violence for added chaos with a riot shortly to follow.
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328 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
I am not pro-Trump, but gah it would be so much more satisfying to me for Shillary to lose... I'm mostly disappointed that so many people actually think she gives a crap about anyone's rights.
166 Yanqui-UXO 2016-11-07
She does give a crap... She's very passionate about eroding them.
11 Ferfrendongles 2016-11-07
Well hello, Reddit sans CTR.
8 hglman 2016-11-07
I would go with controlling us because we deserve to be controlled.
0 eyeswim 2016-11-07
hahah, I almost get what you mean....
5 every1wins 2016-11-07
I respect your logic. Americans voted for America clearly. They may have been deprived of the Bernie option but in an elimination match style electoral process they voted for essentially the 1950's America at its peak versus the 1770's Monarchy that America rebelled from.
What is your legitimate harmonic opinion?
2 CantPullOverAnyMore 2016-11-07
Hillary gives crap on rights
0 Commissar_Sae 2016-11-07
Which ones particularly? And how does that differ from Trump? Honestly asking as non-American
138 [deleted] 2016-11-07
Given that I think the election is rigged, Donald Trump winning would restore my faith that the people can still choose the president. Even if I really don't like who that person is, or his policies.
51 DabbinDiego 2016-11-07
Which is scary, with the possibility of him being planned opposition
86 DontTreadOnMe16 2016-11-07
I mean, he was 100% planned opposition. They hand picked that guy to lose! That's how horrible of a choice Hillary is, she can barely win even against the guy they wanted in there.
11 PM_MEMONEYYY 2016-11-07
That's what I was thinking. I assumed he was a plant so Hillary would have a landslide win but I think their plan backfired.
3 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
Me too. I think he got into it and liked yhe idea and was surprised maybe that many cheered him. Not me, but I am still glad it's not Bloody Hillary for sure
7 DrSultanPhDD 2016-11-07
You have no IDEA how funny this comment is right now.
6 2016pantherswin 2016-11-07
I dunno, I was a huge ron paul supporter, but i knew he was a bit quacky (his reforms would have really crippled welfare and social programs for a while in the beginning).. But I am really into trump, ever since the 2nd debate.
1 magictron 2016-11-07
Maybe they did at the beginning but they called an audible and let him be their guy instead. Either way it's still heads they win, tails we lose.
4 EyeCrush 2016-11-07
I thought Bernie was the plant
8 HeyChaseMyDragon 2016-11-07
They're all plants. Sanders was planted to get everybody all believing in hope, and that the people have a say. Sanders was planted to distract the passionate people from actually stopping the status quo, by making them believe that a vote or action about a vote is more important than anarchist action. Trump was planted to make Clinton's win appear as if free and fair elections exist in the U.S. Clinton was planted to win.
3 EyeCrush 2016-11-07
Know about Clinton, she's the establishment candidate.
That'll backfire if they attempt to let her win. People are fucking WOKE.
2 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
Some of us are... others wow. Unless 90% of her online sycophants are CTR. Probably. Her party attendance fee to Morroco alone was $12 mil. She can afford 24 million posts and comments
24 ohlawdwat 2016-11-07
are you aware that Trump is a clinton donor and long-time family friend, WWE Raw actor, TV personality, and bill clinton's golfing buddy?
the fact that anyone thinks it actually matters or that this is a real contest is surprising to me, like they think everything is rigged ... just not the clinton donor and family friend who was set up to "run against" a clinton? lol.
12 DoAsThouWill 2016-11-07
It does matter though. At least Hillary can be tried now. We won't have millions of girls looking up to her as an inspiration for decades to come... The list goes on and on.
Even if Trump is controlled opposition, we've still seen a victory tonight. No matter how slight it is. A true victory would be a revolt in the street against the system entirely, but we're not their yet. We're close.
1 johnviku 2016-11-07
Alternative theory: he was collecting intel
1 Ideaem 2016-11-07
I never understood the support r/conspiracy gave to Trump. The whole thing is scripted, just the fact he was able to be a viable candidate is evidence of his part in it. There's no way they'd let some upstart challenge the status quo without their own agenda.
1 MKULTRAMONARCHMOUSE 2016-11-07
Everyone was well aware he was a Clinton donor and golf buddy. Did they plan for him to win and now are going to be secretly pulling the strings for them? Lol
15 illmaticStillmatic 2016-11-07
I think elections are rigged too. Now when you say rigged, do you mean they placed Trump as the opposition, made him look like a fool, so that Hillary can just walk into office? Do you think there are other ways they rig elections?
I'm asking honestly and curiously.
10 [deleted] 2016-11-07
Well, some forms of rigging I think are well proven at this point: namely, the elite pour money, use their companies (Esp media ones) as proxies for the candidate, they sometimes fund both sides to ensure they can use both to further their objectives, etc.
But I also think they rig the voting machines themselves. So much so, that it doesn't matter if a person steps into the booth or not.
While I think there's some evidence pointing to this in the 2000 election and in the Sanders/Clinton primaries... this is the theory that hasn't been proven with overwhelming evidence.
10 gingerjuice 2016-11-07
Have you seen the information from Black Box Voting about the "vote shaving"? I can't understand why anyone would want to express votes using decimals like money. There is no such thing as a part of a vote.
5 [deleted] 2016-11-07
Yeah, worth watching that documentary!
2 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
Wow thanks!! Great ammunition for my hacked voting machines lectures.
They use decimals so like that movie Office Space they can shave just like you said. In a close race its all they need to tip it. And very hard for anyone to notice it where as a huge deviation might spur outrage.
Edit: wow some crazy stuff on that website.
They need more than 100 WWIII is coming photos on each page though /s
1 magictron 2016-11-07
I think it's rigged, but I also believe whoever is pulling the strings can still call an audible whenever it suits him.
1 johnviku 2016-11-07
1 MediaMasquerade 2016-11-07
Trump is what the DNC themselves refer to as a pied piper candidate.
Someone that is so isolated and out there that they would have no chance in a General election. Carson Cruz and Trump were these candidates. But jt completely backfired on them cuz Trump has been planning this himself for years
1 sailone 2016-11-07
JFK was also planned opposition. But he rebelled and got his head blown open. Trump has deep roots in the NYC corruptocrats, vide Roy Cohn and the founding of Trumps realestate empire. Trump has a short leash.
4 RuPaulver 2016-11-07
Regardless of the possibility for the election being rigged (I don't think that's likely, but putting that aside for a moment), I don't see how there's any evidence Trump has more support than he has opposition.
3 godlameroso 2016-11-07
All presidents are only symbols, bar-coded Tarot-card chessmen in the Conspiracy's ceremonial Monopoly Gameboard Earth. Elections don't need to be fixed; they are FIXES for the hopeless who are all too willing to deceive themselves into getting a sense of "empowerment" by standing in line for hours to put a little checkmark on a dead piece of the Amazonian Rainforest. Some reptile shoves a card in front of your face: "Which vampire would you like to pay to suck your blood? Clone One, Clone One, or Clone One?" And you Pink Boys and Girls lecture about apathy! I repeat: They see us as MEAT - nobody gives a flightless FUCK what you think - and all those trees did die for nothing. Yes, you are free - free to be a consumption-gratified meat sack, sleepwalking malls coast to coast, reflexively seeking out the hide wrapped around another mobile hamburger.
2 HeyChaseMyDragon 2016-11-07
And in line with what you're saying, it's obvious that the elections are rigged. When everything else is engineered reality, why would elections be any different? The elections exist to give people the feeling that they have some agency in this system, and to distract would-be anarchists from taking any action.
1 godlameroso 2016-11-07
The people that are too entrenched in the system will simply take this as being sore losers that their preferred party lost, but actually, the only way to beat them is to not play the game.
That's what's unthinkable to them, that we see past the shit show. That to us we see it for what it is, entertainment, a distraction.
2 HeyChaseMyDragon 2016-11-07
Why is it so hard for people to see past the shitshow?! I guess I'm just so entrenched outside of it, I can't see the other way. Truly sometimes I wish I could just be blissfully ignorant, or not even ignorant, just to see the system as a positive thing like everyone says it is. I'd feel a lot safer. To quote my father "Now why would they do that?!"
2 godlameroso 2016-11-07
I wonder what kind of cognitive dissonance is happening in Politics right now.
2 gingerjuice 2016-11-07
I think that there might be a surprising number of people who are going to vote for Donald Trump and not tell anyone.
1 RuPaulver 2016-11-07
I don't think that's impossible, but there is no actual evidence to support that beyond maybe some anecdotal stuff
4 AnEndgamePawn 2016-11-07
Purely anecdotal
1 RuPaulver 2016-11-07
That is anecdotal. No one doubts he has at least 30,000 supporters in any given state. 30,000 people showing up at his rallies only shows the fervor of his supporters. There are many, many more than that who show up to the polls, though.
1 AnEndgamePawn 2016-11-07
If a rally of 30,000 people is anecdotal, then a poll of 10,000 people is anecdotal. So while I agree that this doesn't accurately gauge how many people will actually show up to the voting booths, I'd argue that the polls don't gauge that either. So what evidence is there that Trump has way more opposition that support?
1 RuPaulver 2016-11-07
No, that's not how polling works. A Trump rally is a group of Trump supporters. A poll is representative of multiple demographics (democrat, republican, independent, young, old, black, white, etc)
1 AnEndgamePawn 2016-11-07
Even Nate Silver admits polling seems to regularly underestimate Republican/right-leaning candidates.
So I just plain don't believe that the polls we've seen accurately represent all of those demographics. Making them anecdotal.
1 RuPaulver 2016-11-07
"Anecdotal" by definition doesn't describe polls. Silver is referencing a specific situation which doesn't match how typical national elections work
2 gingerjuice 2016-11-07
I am one of them. I voted Trump, and not only because I fear Hillary. MAGA!
1 aboxoffrogs 2016-11-07
Because Hillary can't even fill a room with Cleveland's biggest star, LeBron James. Only a picture from the rafters from a security person exposed this...and it happened over and over and over. Green screens, Bernie Supporters throwing chairs (not) in Nevada, Trump supporters starting riots in Chicago (not)...but hey, yeah...I even live in Baltimore and see all those Hillary signs in people's yards (not). She doesn't have the empirical evidence needed for true support and I'm certainly not putting all my chips on some MSM talking head saying shes a Weiner...winner.
1 RuPaulver 2016-11-07
Consistent polling across the board is a much, much better indicator of who's winning than rallies. Any statistics course could show you why this is true (falsely polling in support of her would do nothing to help her btw, and would probably hurt her).
Showing the fervor of his supporters doesn't tell you anything about the opposition. Most of the democratic base isn't that excited about Hillary Clinton, it's just agreed upon that she's a much, much better choice than the alternative. A few thousand passionate supporters doesn't tell you much about the hundreds of thousands voting in each state.
1 aboxoffrogs 2016-11-07
no...polling is all fine. Nothing to see here...move along...
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-13/more-questions-emerge-about-skewed-hillary-polls
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-polls-bias-224903
http://truthfeed.com/busted-humiliated-msnbc-was-forced-to-correct-a-poll-they-skewed-to-help-hillary/21917/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/05/17/stunning-nbc-agenda-poll-skewed-poll-data-needed-to-keep-hillary-clinton-ahead-nationally/
https://www.thenation.com/article/are-hillary-clintons-strong-poll-numbers-misleading/
2 withinthewell 2016-11-07
One tall glass of faith restored coming right up good sir!
1 mhyquel 2016-11-07
That's a real spider face decision
1 Cystee 2016-11-07
Congrats on your restored faith in democracy.🙂
2 [deleted] 2016-11-07
Thanks, I'm enjoying the feeling for 48 hours before being overcome with horror at the person the American people just put into office :)
1 Cystee 2016-11-07
Sadly, I think the state of the people is more concerning than that of the president elect.
1 stabbymcgoo 2016-11-07
So how do you feel now??
-1 AmadeusK482 2016-11-07
Trump lost the popular vote tho... the majority of people voted for Clinton
1 cunderthunt69 2016-11-07
She won cities, should the will of all the people in LA outweigh the will of all the people in California? If she wins Miami, does that mean the entire state of Florida should go to her? There's a reason we have an electoral college
1 AmadeusK482 2016-11-07
Yes because the fact of the matter is more votes were cast for one candidate -- and whomever receives more votes should be the winner.
Giving more numeric value for the vote result in Florida where historically a huge number of conservative old farts live is an impartiality ...
14 HeyChaseMyDragon 2016-11-07
It's mind boggling. They may think I'm crazy for believing this game is rigged (and I thought that long before trump was a twinkle in our eye), but I think they're crazy for believing that one bit of this election cycle has been "real."
2 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
REALity TV at its scripted finest
1 HeyChaseMyDragon 2016-11-07
Well the reality TV just went to new levels. When he started winning last night I thought oh, they'll just keep the drama going and make it a tie. Instead they said fuck it let's just keep this rolling for the next four years. My paranoia is strong right now. Trump getting installed is a terrible terrible sign. Hitler was just a pawn too you know. Fuck
1 OGMIOS14 2016-11-07
Exactly. It's way above our heads. I'm just disgusted right now. Either way, its again win-win for the rotten system we have in place. Still can't believe they bought it.
2 HeyChaseMyDragon 2016-11-07
Are people really gonna buy this though? I'm stunned. I didn't think the image of democracy could be sustained by a trump victory. Obviously he has been placed where he is right now. But damn. My paranoia is going off so strong. Now in afraid the false flag is gonna happen soon, like even before the inauguration. I thought we had maybe a year with shilliary. We're about to get bent over and fucked
3 MugatuSupreme 2016-11-07
I'm glad that is the top comment, i don't like either... but shit i hate hillary.
2 beeeeeeefcake 2016-11-07
"she has begun to hate everyday Americans" -John Podesta
2 Atalanta8 2016-11-07
i feel the same way
2 WeAreRobot 2016-11-07
Same here. I get no joy from a Trump loss, but I get a giant boner from a Hillary loss.
1 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
It actually looks like he will win at this point. Out of the 7 states that are still counting, only 2 (MN & ME) are blue. And they only hold 14 electoral votes. But Hillary needs 55 more. Trump needs 26 more and the 5 uncounted red-leaning states hold 61 together.
1 Hopps56 2016-11-07
Every state reporting right now has trump leading in every state (Ohio, NC, SC, GA, FL, Virginia and New Hampshire). Hillary already won Vermont and Trump already won Indiana, West Virginia and Kentucky.
1 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
We can easily predict a lot of the states, too. Like police state CA for Hillary. They've got a lot of electoral votes...
1 Golden_Shart 2016-11-07
Your wish is granted.
1 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
Be careful what you wish for?
1 otoed1 2016-11-07
Random thought. What if the conspiracy is reversed. What if trump hired hillary to fall so he could win?
1 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
Oh I've considered it. I don't trust either of them.
1 otoed1 2016-11-07
Well, it looks like were going to just need to weather the storm for the next 4 years and get a real candidate later. Im glad we stopped hillary though.
306 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
When Hilary steals the election, and a few unfortunate individuals take the legal fall for her evil deeds, while a few more commit suicide, and the rest is just swept under the rug while your liberties continue to vanish before your eyes - will you buy into the election campaign again in 2020?
Bonus question: When the large false-flag event happens shortly after the election, will it succeed at both goals of making the country completely forget about the emails while enabling Hilary to commence her vicious domestic and foreign agenda at full speed?
118 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
The possibility of this is bumming me out so bad...
74 neighborhoodsniper 2016-11-07
Its gonna happen, they have been prepping us for it. The North Korea threat, the Russian threat, the Al Qaeda threat, something is in the works. My guess is that they are waiting for the riots to start before they declare Martial law.
19 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
That's what I'm assuming will happen, too. People are already rioting over smaller issues... If a huge catastrophe occurred, they would go nuts.
10 neighborhoodsniper 2016-11-07
It makes sense, I mean either way it is like a win win for them. If Trump wins they dont want him in power, so they would do this to nullify the election or at least postpone it. If Clinton wins it would give them time to cover the mess of it being rigged.
8 Jag_Slave 2016-11-07
Told this to an acquaintance of mine who said this would never happen... I said- Yeah okay dude, everyone will hold hands and not blow things out of proportion like they have been.
11 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
I heard a great analogy the other day...
People fight and riot just to get black Friday deals.. What do you think they'll do during a crisis to get food and water? -_-
5 Jag_Slave 2016-11-07
Oh I've said something like that as well. I just get a big woosh and then silence. People think things will just be the same and no scenario like that would ever come true.
3 Nogrim5 2016-11-07
lol, hell turn off the internet for 24 hrs and we would be eating each other by hour 16
2 hokie2wahoo 2016-11-07
I think that would actually get me to go outside within an hour. Only to ask a neighbor if they were also having internet issues.
2 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
We've seen what they do during Hurricane Katrina
0 Odbdb 2016-11-07
Rioting over smaller issues? The people rioting, Afro Americans, are literally being gunned down in the streets by their peers and the state.
Pretty sure your average citizen has been at most inconvenienced by this election. At worst they have been caused undue stress by the fact that their country and political system is a sham.
5 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
Individuals have been shot, yes. And some were unarmed. I've also heard stories about the rioters looting and destroying other's property as well as beating the crap out of white people and people wearing pro-Trump clothing. I don't know what to believe. But yes, it is a smaller issue than a national catastrophe.
1 Odbdb 2016-11-07
I think you were being a little dramatic. There have been large scale riots in the US and they have been the same demographic for the last 70 years. That demographic riots because of the reasons I laid out in my post above.
For the rest of the population of America to start legitimately rioting there literally has to be no gas at the pumps, no milk or bread in the stores. This isn't a speculation, it's historical fact.
When over worked people complain. And maybe unionize
When out of fuel (gas) people protest
When out of food, people riot
Then depending if the state oppresses they revolt
2 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
I'm not "being dramatic". I'm just sharing what I've seen in articles and videos regarding the rioting.
And duh. Of course something catastrophic that interfered with people's ability to survive - like lack of food and running water, or even electricity - would have to happen for the rest of the population to riot. I'm not sure what you're arguing about because I never said anything that contradicted that. In fact, that's exactly what I stated in other comments. Perhaps you're confusing what I've actually stated with assumptions about me you've conceived in your own mind.
0 Odbdb 2016-11-07
You alluded that there would be rioting over the election results. That's a bit dramatic. I gave legit reasons citizens actually riot.
3 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
I did not allude to that. You incorrectly assumed it, dear.
If you reread the conversation, you'll see that we were discussing the possibility of a false flag attack that led to a US-wide catastrophe leading to widespread rioting.
16 every1wins 2016-11-07
Really because when I see societal breakdown I just see large refugee centers. Perhaps the FEMA coffins are just waste-bins and the FEMA incineration camps are cooking centers.
4 neighborhoodsniper 2016-11-07
Well, there is that too. Perhaps political dissenters camps?
2 PlumRugofDoom 2016-11-07
The thing is, we don't live in the 90's, or the 80's or the 70's. I don't know about the next guy, but I have munitions and MORE than enough to protect myself and my neighbors if we were attacked/attempting to send us to FEMA camps.
6 deplorable_oracle 2016-11-07
Don't you think they know that? The month-over-month record-shattering firearms sales numbers are not lost on those in control. This won't be about them forcibly taking your guns and sending you to FEMA camps -- this is about turning all those guns on each other. It's plain as day, to me.
4 PlumRugofDoom 2016-11-07
Well I can't speak for anyone else, but the only way I'd turn on another citizen is self-defense. My life, my families lives, are worth more than a political battle/civil war.
3 deplorable_oracle 2016-11-07
You and me both. But when you consider the broader context, and especially the emotionally-charged violence already having erupted spontaneously around the country, you see an unprecedented potential for something not seen since 1861. It's all engineered, of course, but it's effective and clever.
I just hope the general population ultimately doesn't fall for it.
5 Jag_Slave 2016-11-07
The same reason most of the population is focused on social politics and why they think either president will do anything for us, is the same reason they would fight each other. Useful idiots. The same ones who disrupt speeches and shut down cities are the same ones who will feel justified shooting a fellow citizen based on invisible thought crimes.
3 PlumRugofDoom 2016-11-07
Unfortunately, I do think the Gen. pop. is eating that shit up like candy.
Like you said, it's all engineered, brilliantly (not to celebrate it) and ruthlessly calculated.
1 whatsreallygoingon 2016-11-07
Pizza ovens...
2 [deleted] 2016-11-07
It'll be the DAPL protest. I can almost guarantee it. Someone will get shot - and not with those petty rubber bullets, riots will become violent, and suddenly all those "cops" (hint: they aren't -all- cops...) start massacring and mass-incarcerating protesters. "What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people WITH guns."
2 logga 2016-11-07
I was watching the MSM channels today to watch Hillary's concession speech and they did a Emergency alert system test. Someone mentioned they'd done it all over the US and 4 times in the space of a few days. Weird.
1 neighborhoodsniper 2016-11-07
Something is going on, now that Russia was so quick to say they weer working on an alliance with Trump I suspect it will be either BLM related or ISIS related. I suspect something like shootings, IED, etc. I really think something is in the works. It may not be yet, perhaps soon after Trump takes office.
2 fdajj 2016-11-07
I don't know. I've been hearing groans of martial law for over 20 years now and so far everyone has been wrong. Maybe it just is not going to happen?
1 neighborhoodsniper 2016-11-07
I hope you are right. I dont think it will resort to Martial law, but civil unrest and rioting will be definite. They will try and cause panic in the rest of Americans, playing on people's emotions and trying to get them to think they did the wrong thing.
1 fdajj 2016-11-07
I'm sure! Nobody (I hope) wants this to happen.
1 Nogrim5 2016-11-07
saw story about a russian power plant explosion earlier, can't wait to see how that plays with russia, just after the threats about the US cyberattacking them.
also aleppo is probably going to take some heavy heavy bombing tonight now that the carrier is on station in the Med.
i think tonight is going to be domestic riots and people attacking who ever ends up winnings offices and such.
1 Ideaem 2016-11-07
On top of this, I think they'll make an effort to be behind the riots. The match flick in the powder keg. The BLM movement would be a prime candidate, people are all ready frothing at the mouth over this. The fools. All lives matter and you don't go saying a particular race matters and destroy shit then expect people to support you. It'd be so easy to have a plant in one of these groups instigate something bigger. With the massive number of seemingly unthinking or unaware masses it'd be a cinch. Then riots will kick off for the wrong reasons, they'll have their excuse and then we begin our transformation from an open society to a closed society.
1 magictron 2016-11-07
and 'they' could also make Trump look like a hero by taking credit for something he didn't do. Think of the approval ratings of Rudy Guiliani or George W. Bush immediately after 9/11.
45 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
Do we even really need a false flag? They've been spoon-feeding us anti-Russian propaganda and the people I talk to all seem convinced that Russia is the modern axe of evil... I think the country is pretty much ready...
21 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
I mean, Russia & the US definitely have been butting heads in the middle east. And US and China have been on edge, too. I don't think that the US is the "good guy" by any means... The US is absolutely responsible for the unrest in the middle east. And we've only been provoking Russia further. I don't know whether or not Russia would actually seek to attack on US grounds. It's possible. But it's just as likely that the US would stage an attack to gain support to go to war. Seeing that they've done it successfully once before...
7 breandan81 2016-11-07
Once? Which one?
14 Kjartan_Aurland 2016-11-07
Gulf of Tonkin incident that kicked off Vietnam, for one.
1 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
And provoking Japan cutting off fuel export and then lining up a bunch of older battleships and carriers tight on the base closest to Japan but still in the territory of a state.
4 Zetterbluntz 2016-11-07
911
6 calmingstorms 2016-11-07
It feels so good to finally have my favorite subreddit back. False flags, 9/11, government conspiracies.
1 logga 2016-11-07
Yeah man! I'm very happy Trump won and Americans have their country back (for now) but kinda glad it's over so we can get into some new juicy conspiracies and save the world from our evil overlords.
2 wiseclockcounter 2016-11-07
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods JFK decided against this one.
4 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
Once?
Every single war the Us has been involved in since its inception has been started under false pretenses.
5 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
I haven't read about that. I was just referring to 9/11.
5 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
Every single war.
1 hokie2wahoo 2016-11-07
That would certainly be a cool lineup to see. I remember seeing a picture with the consistent "wars" or "conflicts".
1 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
I wish I knew how to make films.
3 kablamy 2016-11-07
This is part of what scares me regarding setting up a no fly zone in Syria.
3 Rosssauced 2016-11-07
Gulf of Tonkin in the sky will be the story when some retired officer writes a tell all book on the start of ww3.
Remind me in 25 years of nuclear winter.
10 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
You're a clown if you think we're going to war with Russia. It would be nuclear immediately, and neither side would want that, politicians nor people.
There is the risk of a huge proxy war, though. That has happened in the past.
24 NotNowImOnReddit 2016-11-07
FTFY
9 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
Yeah, good point.
I meant like HUGE huge, though. Not like fighting a terror cell/civil war. I was thinking of Vietnam, originally.
3 Detached09 2016-11-07
If you think a proxy war can't evolve into a real war, you're insane. Putin hates Hilary, and vice versa. This isn't a kid's game anymore.
1 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
It was never a kid's game, and both sides hace been accustomed to brinksmanship since JFK. Don't be an alarmist, it's obvious this is new to you.
1 Commissar_Sae 2016-11-07
Yeah but they are both cold and calculating politicians. They will be ruled by what is best for them and their maintenance of power rather than emotions.
Trump won't be able to do that as president. He is baited into emotional responses by tweets.
1 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
I actually see HRC is a hothead and has poor coping skills. She hid right after Benghazi claiming a minor brain ailment. Who knows what she has I've seen her spastic head shaking weirdness that seems like seizures to me. But anyway she then resigns. Too hard
1 Commissar_Sae 2016-11-07
You may very well be right. Politicians hiding after political disasters is nothing New though. I mean Stalin locked himself away for days after the Germans invaded.
She probably would have been pretty awful. Still not convinced Trump will be better though.
0 PaddyTheLion 2016-11-07
That and the fact that Russia is not interests in a conflict. Unless the US triggers one, of course.
1 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
I guess Germany didn't want conflict when they invaded Poland.
1 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
You bet not. They wanted everyone to roll over.
Poor Poland wanted their independence back and Russia stole it with Prussia, then they welcomed Napoleon and all his empty promises only to starve and freeze to death in retreat of his massive over reach into Russia. (I will never understand Hitler copying his mistake except people say he had been getting more and more erratic and irrational). Then WWI and Nazi's. EU promised the world and delivers only insurmountable debt and endless refugees with terrorists, rapists and murderers camouflaged inside.
Now we have these rumblings and it felt like HRC was pushing for WWIII. She certainly wanted Lybia destabilized thus destroying the only dam keeping the Muslim hoards out of Europe.
Now I can onky pray Trump surprises us all in a good way and puts rhr breaks on this runaway train, encourages Syria not to cave to banking cabal and makes trade not war with the world but without disgusting liberty destroying treaties like TPP.
I know, I know... I hoped and prayed Barry Soetero would keep his word and end this war machine and close GITMO, force the repell of the Patriot Act and not sign the NDAA. How bitter my disappointment.
History seems on an endless loop. The Wheel of Time. Too bad we don't have the honorable Aiel and a Dragon Reborn
-3 [deleted] 2016-11-07
that's where your wrong, the American people are a liability and ask too many questions. not only that, but they interfere with both china and the western elites NWO plans.
they WANT the nukes to fall on both sides, leaving them with an escape route to their imperial palaces in china from where they can rule over the remaining planet with an iron fist and complete control of knowledge and technology.
they want us weak, and powerless to oppose them. and they want to destroy their foreign enemies, and us, in one fell swoop.
1 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
All I hear is speculation until I see some proof. I used to think the elite could keep living in a post-ww3 world, but it was mostly due to ignorance
1 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
Please tell me what these plans are, and how they will accomplish them in a post-nuclear world. There will be nothing to accomplish, the surface of the planet will be ruined, and everyone remaining will be living on borrowed time. There's no point, and no order remaining or even possible.
1 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
They can succed easily with cancer and infertility thanks to GMOs, glyphosate, thimersol, aspartame and endless FDA approved poisons peddled as medicine.... oops Vioxx our bad but lets wait even after thousands affected and maximize the death toll.
1 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
I mean, I agree all of those things are bad, but how would they allow people to live underground, deal with awful air quality, genetic damage, possible irradiation, lack of farmable soil on the surface, and destruction of all resources on the surface?
I'm saying that it might be possible to live in a fallout shelter for a generation or two, but I feel like pretty much any theorized NWO plot would be not only impossible, but pointless after nukes fell.
2 hglman 2016-11-07
Just an event to latch on to.
1 sundayatnoon 2016-11-07
There are certainly some very vocal supporters of war with Russia, but the general population has no interest in it. Most complaints against Russia sound like something we'd cook up here and since most media sources have worked their assess off trying to discredit conspiracy theorizing, they've sort of written themselves into a corner.
They need that big flashy arrow telling the electorate who it's okay to bomb.
2 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
Yeah this time with Russians in the planes
2 Odbdb 2016-11-07
Well it's better than the possibility of a FF attack to remove Trump from the White House. That would be a big one.
2 kurtchella 2016-11-07
If she's willing to cyberattack Russia over the supposed "hacking" of her emails...if the Internet keeps giving in to sporadic DDOS attacks...
1 rayuki 2016-11-07
the fact obama just passed an exceutive order right before his presidency ends should show you all whats about to happen, once Killary steals the election there will be a massive false flag attack from the sounds of this order going to be based around a globa pandemic https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/11/04/executive-order-advancing-global-health-security-agenda-achieve-world
1 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
Well they did poison us with unnecessary pesticide for their hyped Zika scare (so much hot air). Almost as much hype as h1n1 that was gonna kill us all.
1 ThisisDanRather 2016-11-07
Seriously was going to say the same thing. I have an awful pit in my stomach about all of this.
2 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
I really do, too. Trust your gut. At least we're somewhat mentally prepared, and won't be hysterical like the majority of the country.
1 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
Obama and Bush both refused to pay for infrastructure to protect from EMP. One well placed and the whole grid goes and my husband worked for LCRA who handled the big transformers. They don't have even 1% back ups in storage.
1 chickenshitmchammers 2016-11-07
Inevitability.
75 dogcomplex 2016-11-07
$100 says the false flag is a white "civil terrorist", enraged at Clinton, who guns down civilians, persuading Americans to:
1) cut all criticism for Hillary, as her opposition is revealed to be crazy angry gun-toting terrorists
2) force more polarizing between liberals and gun-toting conservatives,
3) excuse more internet privacy violation / terrorist hunting / patriot acting / police arming / net neutrality ending, so Hillary can strengthen her anti-dissent tools
23 trytheCOLDchai 2016-11-07
Absolutely. This will be the beginning of the war on the second amendment
21 dogcomplex 2016-11-07
Cheered for by the people, because the Trump supporters are "too scary".
While once the republican voters were the weapon to push for tax breaks for the rich, deregulation of wall street, and war mongering in the middle east - today the democrat voters are the weapon to fight for destruction of freedom of speech, increased intelligence, protest quelling, and gun control.
21 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
If we can manage to not get fucked over until Gen X and the baby boomers are in the ground we may have a chance...
I'm not sure how much of a difference it's going to make, but people who grew up with the Internet seem more inclined to not be retarded and to not just blindly believe everything they're told. And I'm not saying it's a majority of the younger generation who have a head on their shoulders... Just more of them than the older ones, simply because they have a lot more tools than older people.
17 Smoothtank 2016-11-07
I see NO evidence of your "believe" point. In fact, it seems worse and critical thinking in general seems stunted. I don't know how old you are, but I came from the "old world" and transitioned into this "new world" and I've seen mostly the opposite.
I don't think people are getting smarter or stronger. If anything they've been feminized and dominated by fear.
4 Jag_Slave 2016-11-07
This is every generation. We could toss 1st,2nd, and 4th amendment rights in the dumpster once they're through indoctrinating everyone. Dumbing down our public schools and colleges with social politics over actual skills and critical thinking.
1 Smoothtank 2016-11-07
Probably.
1 txstoploss 2016-11-07
This3
I'm totally sick of hearing about 'digital natives' and their 'tech smarts'. Pawing at touchscreens, 'liking', upvoting and taking selfies aren't 'computer skills'.
1 BiscuitCat1 2016-11-07
Baby boomers? Those were people born between 1946 and 1964. Did you mean young people today?
1 Commissar_Sae 2016-11-07
I disagree. Most millenials are the most easily influenced people around. They don't have the party loyalty of the boomers or the apathy of the xers, but they get passionate over everything and really, really suck at analysing information or thinking long term.
More of us just roll with whatever the headlines tell us without actually doing any research. We care more about entertainment than information and so we end up with this shitshow of an election. Where feelings are more important than facts and people parrot whatever their chosen media source tells them.
2 keysersoze-- 2016-11-07
I think you have valid points but I would just add that the narrative of Trump supporters being too scary and therefore used as a pretext to inact draconian agendas is being delivered to them with a big bow. You don't have to dig very far in this sub pr others to find dozens of Trump supporters talking about how they're going to gun down government officials and in some cases anyone that has a different opinion than themselves. I get why people are angry, but this is playing right into the stereotypes. This isn't 1776, you're not going win a revolution by grabbing your musket and bustin caps.
1 kayjaylayray 2016-11-07
Trump supporters are too scary? They aren't the one's limiting free speech, destroying banners and attacking people the way Hillary's are.
5 neighborhoodsniper 2016-11-07
oooh nice, I didnt even think of that. More than likely they will target minorities to finally trigger off that whole falsified race war. Divide and conquer right.
2 themoleculoman 2016-11-07
I don't think so, but I do think it'll be a crazy white man. I predicted a year ago that whoever wins will be a target. Not sure if I saw correctly, but Hillary was behind bullet proof glass in Philly speech tonight? She's built quite the list of enemies and I wouldn't ever want to be in her shoes because you have to be insane to want to be where she is.
3 dogcomplex 2016-11-07
False target, made to draw sympathy. But who will ever know - when the "angry Trump supporter" is basically canon anyway. It'll be the easiest story to believe
46 lordrothschild 2016-11-07
I just know that if it happens, it can easily be blamed on Russia. Here's the MSM narrative: "Trump lost, so his evil friend Putin attacked Madam Hillary's America! Invade Russia!"
48 flartibartfast 2016-11-07
pretty much all my circles who think I am crazy for being a conspiracy theorist believe 100% that Russia is secretly manipulating everything Trump does behind the scenes.
46 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
I don't understand why it's so hard for people to grasp the fact that Russian isn't a big fan of America simply because America keeps trying to be the god damn world police. Wouldn't it be a legitimate reaction if we freaked the fuck out because a coalition of foreign powers with self-serving motives lead by Russia was trying to strengthen its grasp on central/south America and putting a crap ton of weaponry near the Mexican border?
Russia isn't out there trying to dominate the world, spread communism, and burn babies, for Christ's sake... They're just trying to make sure they don't get bent over by Americans overreaching across the globe. They don't necessarily have the most progressive human right stances, but they're far from being the worst place out there, and a good case can be made about the US having a pretty fucking shady track record as well. How people are so easily manipulated into viewing them as some sort of boogeyman is beyond me...
12 ddaniels02 2016-11-07
yeah. I have to be selective on my discussions with friends. almost add sarcasm to each conversation because they can't handle anything i got for them... well at least until it's depicted in a Marvel movie.
5 thisismytrollacct99 2016-11-07
Mariah in Luke cage has everything of a modern politican. Murder, sociopathy, false flags, spinning everything for political gain.
10 gs2549 2016-11-07
Get smarter circles... then again 2d round things usually aren't that smart
9 George_Tenet 2016-11-07
You're a conspiracy analyst
1 CorpusCallosum 2016-11-07
I like this phrase
1 George_Tenet 2016-11-07
Ty
10 EvaBongoria 2016-11-07
as a canadian i dont really know tooo much about american politics... but before it was eve trump vs clinton i said to my american friends that if its comes down to those 2.. either one are the perfext exuse to start world war 3.. blame it on an idiot or a criminal... both are the perfect fall.
1 fitfrank 2016-11-07
VERY solid theory
16 hadanideaortwo 2016-11-07
So many Patriots died for this election. His name was Seth Rich. RIP.
14 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
Fucking A, there it is and we both know it is going to happen. And watch it unite the people in blind patriotism. Within a few months, shit is gonna get really fucking real.
1 Cantinabandacoustic 2016-11-07
The goddamned PATRIOT Act all over again.
But Trump victory now, so...
14 Rosssauced 2016-11-07
Sadly the people are already being turned against the lock and load crowd that could actually do something good if unimpeded.
I saw on Facebook some of my friends that identify as pacifists (well they were before Hillary made war cool #imwithher... sorry need to literally puke after saying that) advocating the use of extreme and total lethal force on a militia that is apparently forming in Georgia right now. "Take em all out like any other enemy"
Sadly our friends are among the sheep and I truly hope we do not have to hurt the ignorant, or have them hurt us, to do what is right in the end.
23 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
It's funny. I'm Canadian, and I've always been entirely against guns. I've been living in the US for a while and following politics, and throughout the course of the last 2 years, I've completely warmed up to guns.
I most likely won't ever own one myself, but seeing as the government seems to be working against its people, I now believe that the American people owning a lot of guns is absolutely necessary.
1 watsupbru 2016-11-07
I don't see the argument ever being made about possessing guns during a war.
If we ever find ourselves in a position where our government goes into hiding and the country is being invaded by a foreign country, how the flying fuck do we expect to defend ourselves? There's no way the military can be everywhere at once.
3 dr_rosenberg 2016-11-07
Pacifists huh. Might as well read "going to be slaughtered" instead
3 Rosssauced 2016-11-07
Its a shame but you aren't wrong.
These are good people that unfortunately haven't had the lived experience to wake them up. It pains me that the PTB got to them so completely they are willing to throw their ideologies down the tubes and laugh as the jackboots silence true patriots.
2 dr_rosenberg 2016-11-07
To be fair to them I used to be in that train of thought and it comes from the one place you would think you would expand your mind from... school. I think it was the Frankfurt School who said that is the way to indoctrinate the future and they are right. Its a shame really because learned helplessness is becoming the norm for the future generations and if Hillary gets in this will become Europe 2.0 with weak "men" being walked over by aggressive neanderthals
1 Commissar_Sae 2016-11-07
Let's switch things up for a moment for fun. If Trump is elected and say BLM decides to arm themselves and form militias to defend their rights and resist the new government, would you be on side?
Pacifists are taking a moral stand and can still actively protest injustice and overthrow them. In many ways, they are more effective than armed mobs. I mean look at India, they effectively liberated themselves through nonviolence.
Civil War of any kind is a freaking horror show. Give me passive resistance over armed conflict any day.
1 godlameroso 2016-11-07
I ain't an activist, I can't do shit, I rather be a pacifist with a full clip.
1 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
The lock and load crowd could do something good?
You mean actually give them a good reason to outlaw guns, and get a lot of untrained, way outnumbered people killed?
1 Rosssauced 2016-11-07
I believe they can. Many are veterans and enthusiasts that are trained to use their weapons. If it was possible to stomp out such a movement we would have won in Nam and I feel like our soldiers are unlikely to drop napalm on small town Georgia.
As for the ban.
Guns are like Pandora's box. They are out in the country and will not be removed. Few gun owners would turn their property to the govt and attempts to confiscate would turn groups like the NRA into a militia.
11 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
Can't wait for that sweet sweet war with Russian, dude.
#DraftOurDaughters #DieForHer
10 George_Tenet 2016-11-07
It's been awhile since last false flag
14 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
yes. the same folks who bring you the election show bring you the terrorism show.
but shit is gonna go down. i expect it during the transition.
6 George_Tenet 2016-11-07
Trumps one of them I wouldnt trust any billionaire that wants to be president
1 kayjaylayray 2016-11-07
Who would you trust? A homeless person?
1 godlameroso 2016-11-07
Over those two? Probably.
2 kayjaylayray 2016-11-07
What makes a crazy homeless person with no ambition off the street any different from a man with ambition and a pension for profit under current laws?
I really don't understand your logic. Who is an ideal candidate for president? A crazy, feeble, criminal woman pandering to feminists? A black savior with a thirst for war and death overseas?
To be fair, there is no one qualified to lead a large nation. Why should anyone be above others?
The fact is, you're choosing between a profiteering businessman operating under corrupt law who can't run a casino and a profiteering businesswoman who takes bribes, harasses people with federal agencies, and is a proponent for war using banks, women and minorities as a platform and supports policy against her platform. They are both fallible.
The difference is that Hillary is a career politician and has things in the works to further her and her sponsors agenda and has done things beyond Trump's league. She is also a proven failure in politics from all areas of her career.
So why would anyone vote for her unless they are brainwashed? She's being sensationalized as a feminist hero although she condones and defends rape and sexual assault of women and sexual affairs by her husband. She's being painted as a hero to minorities although her past policies all indicate she is a racist an doesn't care.
I don't get the Trump hate.
1 godlameroso 2016-11-07
I voted for Trump because fuck Hillary but I don't think it's going to change anything having him as president.
I'm sorry you misunderstood my position and had to waste time writing all that although I don't disagree with you if it makes you feel better.
2 kayjaylayray 2016-11-07
I totally understand voting out of spite. I did the same thing. It's all we little people have. Sort of.
5 brofidential 2016-11-07
The FF planners have been busy working the election. Once Hilldawg is officially elected, they can resume their FF duties.
1 HarryandWinston 2016-11-07
Wasn't Orlando just a few months ago?
7 alwaysDL 2016-11-07
This exactly I have been telling everyone I know this. Prepare for a large false flag event in the first year of Hilliary's presidency. It will blamed on ISIS or Assad and/or Iran.
2 Tori1313 2016-11-07
Calling it now, they will go after Assad first and foremost.
6 Lo-Tsen7 2016-11-07
Or when the false flag happens during the election www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45795.htm
5 jordanthejordna 2016-11-07
on point, bro. such a good call. really knocked that one out of the park.
now that your hero trump got elected, does that mean he's part of the spooky illuminati too?
0 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
Thanks bro
It remains to be seen.
6 jordanthejordna 2016-11-07
but before the election he absolutely was not. right? before the election he was just a businessman and political outsider who was shaking things up. but now it remains to be seen if the illuminati is behind his presidency. got it.
0 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
Lol, if that's your view I must say I think it's quite foolish.
If you're trying to put words in my mouth, the answer is "no not right". And I ask if you're just trying to start an argument with a stranger?
3 jordanthejordna 2016-11-07
i mean yeah pretty much. basically i just wanted to call you out on your dumb prediction and logic.
0 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
Cool, no problem, if it makes you feel better that's fine, it's also too bad, but I'm not offended.
4 Scarecoon 2016-11-07
Seemingly neither of those will happen, prophet.
1 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
Seemingly not, but you can still call me that.
I'll concede when I see Hillary do it ;)
3 rohan06 2016-11-07
yes because yeezy 2020
3 Doxep 2016-11-07
So, I'm interested in your opinion now that literally nothing of what you predicted with so much smugness happened.
1 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
Cool, what would you like my opinion on?
2 Doxep 2016-11-07
Why didn't the false flag event happen? Why didn't Hillary win?
You seemed extremely sure that both of these things would happen.
1 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
I said "steal", not "win".
I'll respond to you once the Democrats publicly concede the election.
1 Doxep 2016-11-07
Why would you wait until the Democrats concede the election?
Edit - and my question stays. She didn't steal it.
1 [deleted] 2016-11-07
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1 Doxep 2016-11-07
Ok, thanks. I'll wait for your reply!
1 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
Okay I'll answer..
Well by "shortly after the election" I didn't mean 2 hours.
I suspect Hillary didn't 'win' because Trump actually won by a larger margin than they could flip via rigged voting machines, fraudulent ballots, etc. without making it obvious.
1 Doxep 2016-11-07
Thanks. Why would the false flag even happen after and not before?
1 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
If you're suggesting that a false flag could have helped the democrats scare people into keeping them in power, it's a real possibility. And maybe they would have done it had they foreseen this outcome. And maybe they still will. Am I understanding the question?
1 Doxep 2016-11-07
I am suggesting that you are suggesting it, yes! Why did you think it would happen after the election, when it doesn't count anymore?
1 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
Because they're not just used to win elections, they're also used to change laws, gain power, instill fear, and advance political and military agendas in other ways. Take a look: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/x-admitted-false-flag-attacks.html . Unfortunately it's not a matter of if it will happen, but a matter of when it will happen again, and of how large of a crisis they want to create.
Obviously I hope it doesn't happen under the next President. As you said, I was just being smug with my predictions. And I hope the chance of it happening is diminished with Trump, but realistically we don't know much about him.
2 cenasmgame 2016-11-07
lol
1 dr_rosenberg 2016-11-07
As a person whos subbed on The Don I have to say question number 2 (like 9/11) is going to be real shitty. Alot of people will die like many have over foreign lands in the past 15 years. While that is going on yes it will succeed in taking away the small liberties we still have and make us into Europe 2.0. As far as WHO the war will be with we don't know but for sure something will kick off and it will not be pretty
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1 HabitualSmoker5 2016-11-07
Sounds too good to be true.
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1 godiebiel 2016-11-07
the elections weren't close enough to need a false flag. There might be establishment forces trying to derail Trump if he refuses to fall in line, but apparently there are elements within the establishment who actually want "true change"
1 bobwerd 2016-11-07
Thank God you were not right!
1 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
Fucking cheers!
123 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
I, for one, find it very interesting that the FBI suddenly cleared Hillary...again...with two days to go before the election. It would seem that Mrs. Clinton's handlers do, in fact, want her to occupy the oval office. Trump doesn't stand a hope in hell. While Trump might be good for America, the oligarch's can't control him and therefore won't allow him to take office.
81 ProfChaosMSU52 2016-11-07
I totally agree. I am not a Hillary supporter nor a Trump supporter. However if Trump somehow wins it will restore faith that the election process really does work how it should.
75 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
And potentially get Trump assassinated. Trump wants peace. The Oligarch's want war. John F. Kennedy wanted peace. The Oligarch's from JFK's time wanted war. JFK was shot. The parallel is clear.
64 ProfChaosMSU52 2016-11-07
Exactly. Last true President for the people, JFK.
35 George_Tenet 2016-11-07
SINCE then been under CIA military dictatorship
9/11 was a false flag
10 GoddessWins 2016-11-07
No one seems to know or remember the reason Jimmy Carter was punished so severely. He fired G.H.W. Bush and more than 500 CIA agents.
2 George_Tenet 2016-11-07
Til
0 WingsuitBears 2016-11-07
sauce plz, want to read about this.
23 98427384950 2016-11-07
If Trump is assassinated, he'll go down as a martyr and a revolution will begin.
13 ddaniels02 2016-11-07
if hill got assassinated I think they would pass on martyrdom. because... SEXISM!!
haha.. but no really, she sucks and the "vote blue no matter who" just have a paper thin reason for supporting her.
10 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
I throw up in my mouth a little bit every time Sanders tells people to vote for HRC and that a vote for anyone else is a waste.
4 t0_0l 2016-11-07
I could be off the mark, but I don't understand why Bernie is still involved in campaigning for Hillary. He's fundamentally against what she's about. Given that either he was threatened or at risk of senate seat removal, all he had to do was endorse her at the DNC and then peace the hell out. Why the further involvement? By my logic, it seems to increase the chances of him being a shill by a pretty big margin.
3 [deleted] 2016-11-07
She has blackmail against him. I posted a way long thread outlining my theory about Sanders/Clinton here. Remember the Wikileaks where they said how he wasn't "sticking to the agreement" and how they could use "leverage" if need be?
I'm pretty sure the terms were laid out clearly when he decided to run: Clinton/DNC thought he could be useful as a way to reach the Occupy/youth crowd so they indulged his run. But I'm guessing Clinton said something like, "but if I win the nom (knowing full well she would), you agree to endorse me and continue to campaign. If I win the presidency I'll offer you 'x-token.' If you don't do these things, then x info gets released." Plus, she'd be the POTUS. You don't want to be a politician on the wrong side of her, especially as a Dem. Even if he's technically an independent, it'd be like pissing off the popular girl in school who can make your life in school a living hell.
5 Aloud-Aloud 2016-11-07
It HAS TO be way darker than that ... at ANY time over the past few months, Sanders could (should) have pulled his support for Hillary and left her to flounder! There's something way bigger at stake here, because he's sold himself out and he knows it.
2 Phinigma 2016-11-07
They can assassinate him politically and get him impeached and removed from office if they really want him gone.
9 98427384950 2016-11-07
Has he done anything to get him impeached?
10 Phinigma 2016-11-07
Not that I know of but that's not to say they couldn't fabricate something and pin it on him.
10 98427384950 2016-11-07
True. They'll do literally anything to get what they want.
8 Phinigma 2016-11-07
These fuckers play dirty. If you think for one moment that something is off limits, out of reach, or impossible, stop limiting yourself and reassess the situation.
From personal experience, I have watched a cop plant drugs on someone and then arrest them.
I have also seen a criminal target another criminal by dropping a bag of dope and dealing supplies into a vehicle he owned before calling the police on him.
I can only imagine what people with unlimited power, wealth, and influence could do. Especially since we know they have no qualms about hurting, abusing, or killing people.
-2 darksiderising 2016-11-07
This describes attacks on Clinton. ;)
4 Phinigma 2016-11-07
Poor Hillary. I weep on the inside for her as she is so mistreated. I think it's because she's a woman. /s
-1 thebrassnuckles 2016-11-07
God, wouldn't it be so fun inch great if this was all just attacks on her because she's a woman, and she ends up being the greatest president ever?!?!
Hahahaha
Too fuckin bad that'll never happen.
Brb. Loading magazines.
2 darksiderising 2016-11-07
Unstable people like you shouldn't own guns.
1 thebrassnuckles 2016-11-07
Shall not be infringed, my friend.
2 darksiderising 2016-11-07
Is not a sentence, my bad hombre.
2 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
No
-1 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
Given the fact that he's a racist/sexist/misogynistic mother fucker (with hard evidence showing that) it won't be hard to make some shit up that will seem entirely believable. Don't get me wrong; I'll take Trump over Clinton any day. I'm not that into the idea of WW3, personally.
2 98427384950 2016-11-07
Like all those sexual assault allegations that just disappeared and are no longer discussed by anyone!
0 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
I'm not talking about the sexual assault allegations. Those were too well-timed to be taken seriously. They're entirely believable, but they serve the Clinton campaign a bit too well to be taken as fact. I'm talking about the multiple recordings of him saying shit that clearly exposes Trump's views on women (ie: grabbing women by the pussy, attributing any sort of behavior he doesn't like to PMSing, commenting about women's weight in the most demeaning way he can muster, etc.)
The guy is a sexist mother fucker who doesn't seem to believe women have any use other than looking god and cooking his dinner. It's not a reason to not support him when the only other option is Clinton, but anyone who argues that Trump considers women to be equal to men has their head pretty damn deep up their own ass.
1 98427384950 2016-11-07
I was saying that they'd make something up like the sexual assault allegations.
22 DrDougExeter 2016-11-07
See I find this attitude disturbing. They've built up this narrative around trump with nothing to back it up other than meaningless words. The right has built it up like trump is some underdog outsider who only cares about doing what is right, but the reality couldn't be further from that concept. What we do absolutely know about trump is that he has a history of defrauding people and rubbing shoulders with the other wealthy and powerful people.
It bothers me to see people act like trump is some victim, because that puts him in a position where he can blame others for anything he does that people don't like, and people will believe him and take his words at face value. Maybe trump does only want peace, but we don't know what his true intentions are and it is foolish to take his words at face value when he has a history of lying to people.
26 Phinigma 2016-11-07
All I know is that the wrongdoings that we know about from Trump pale in comparison to that of HRC. This is a lesser of two evils election.
3 shoziku 2016-11-07
Trump is a landslide lesser of two evils.
0 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
Wait, are you Trump or Hillary is worse?
17 Phinigma 2016-11-07
Hillary is worse, imo MUCH worse.
3 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
:)
-7 xveganrox 2016-11-07
All we really know about Trump is that he sees normal people as pawns and couldn't give less of a shit about them, that the only reason he is running for office is the money he can siphon out of it, and that he comes from the exact same background and crowd as the Clintons and that they're friends behind the scenes. I fail to see how anyone could expect any better from Trump than from Clinton.
5 Phinigma 2016-11-07
In your hand you have two grenades. One you know is going to explode and hurt you. The other, yes it's also a grenade, but you don't know if it will hurt you or not. You have to keep one of them. Which do you choose?
-1 xveganrox 2016-11-07
The one who isn't always quite sure what Aleppo is, of course.
3 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
I'll still take my chances with the retarded pussy-grabbing orange grenade that doesn't know what Aleppo is.
12 MrGreggle 2016-11-07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8wJc7vHcTs
Same exact policies. Trump is an honest man.
10 the_banyan 2016-11-07
Holy smokes! He's exactly the same, and he predicted the early 90s recession, too! Incredible. I keep hearing people say he's a crook or fraud, but I've never seen a shred of evidence. Can someone enlighten me to this supposed evidence?
2 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
Well I mean... Trump University is hard to beat in terms of quick money-making schemes...
0 xveganrox 2016-11-07
The same guy who in 2013 wrote:
Yeah, seems consistent to me. The same guy who is a long time friend of the Clintons and every other powerbroker in the United States who will give him the time of day. The same guy who defrauded people with his "university." I hope I somehow missed the sarcasm.
3 MrGreggle 2016-11-07
He's talking about financial stability and how financial instability affects the entire world in that quote. Not advocating for open borders.
If I were to guess which candidate has all the fat cat investors my bet would be on the one with all of the mainstream media support, not the one under constant assault. That or the one with the shady foundation accepting money from foreign and private interests in exchange for paid speeches and access to the State Department.
You can shit on Trump University all you want, it was just a non-accredited specialty school. If you want some real fraud I suggest you ask someone who has lived in Haiti within the past decade how they feel about the Clintons.
1 GoddessWins 2016-11-07
That is one fine bit of a spinning gaslight.
1 xveganrox 2016-11-07
Do you really think one candidate is the good guy and one is the bad? Or that the choice of executive leader is given to... what exactly? A plurality of most completely uninformed people who happen to have been born in the USA? Or that if said people really for the choice, these two candidates - who happen to be BFFs - would have been the best two options?
He's talking about one world currency/markerplacw, which at the very least tells us that both candidates support TPP and much more.
1 MrGreggle 2016-11-07
Its sort of a universally accepted fallacy these days that its always Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich. I believe Trump is the first legitimately good candidate in our lifetime and people are too cynical now to see it. Hillary Clinton is literally a criminal and has already sold out our government from a lower office. Trump basically already won life. He's rich and famous with an incredible family and capable of doing whatever he wants whenever he wants. He's been saying for decades that he doesn't want to run for office, but he's finally doing it because he honestly believes its gotten so bad that nobody else is capable of doing it.
Its a once in a lifetime opportunity to elect somebody for president that does not owe anyone anything and does not need anything himself. He will be the very definition of a public servant, not the beneficiary of public office.
The argument of who deserves to vote is pretty stupid and irrelevant. Won't bother there... and no, they aren't BFFs. Unless your BFFs file frivolous rape lawsuits against you.
That's an incredible leap of logic. He's saying that we're effectively all in this together in terms of economic prosperity, that economic turmoil crosses borders. How you tie that to a specific position on a specific piece of legislation is beyond me. One thing's for sure though: Hillary Clinton called TPP the gold standard for trade deals and her husband signed NAFTA.
1 xveganrox 2016-11-07
That wasn't at all the point I was trying to make. What I mean is that from the perspective of the ruling class that's what we are, and they sure as hell aren't handing the reins over to us any time soon. If nothing else this election should have taught us that.. remember the DNC primary, after all. Which is part of why I think all this is immaterial anyway - I mean, I'll still vote, because it's kind of fun, but come on, we know how this is going to turn out, don't we?
It's not so incredible. If you were being incredibly reductionist you could argue that TOP/NAFTA enable global trade at the potential cost to local economies and jobs in the wealthier trading prtner country. Trump and Clinton are both globalist extremists. Maybe that's the only way forward that will work, maybe not, but they both bullshit and pretend to want limits on "free trade" and support elements of a protected economy, while just a couple years (or days, in Clinton's case) previous they went on the record with their ubprecedented love of globalism.
1 MrGreggle 2016-11-07
If you're against globalism and you don't think Trump is on your side at least in that regard there is no reasoning with you.
And yeah, it should have been Trump vs. Bernie. Hillary rigged it, everyone knows it. A vote for Hillary is a voice saying "you don't need to respect my vote, my voice and my opinion, do what you want".
-6 DominizZzle 2016-11-07
How honest was he when he lied about having a relationship with Putin? Get out of here
10 MrGreggle 2016-11-07
Ah, like that time he sold 20% of the US' uranium to Russia?
-1 DominizZzle 2016-11-07
Not voting for Shillary
4 Johnsonjay63 2016-11-07
Relations?? Trump's a swinger?
1 DominizZzle 2016-11-07
https://youtu.be/ZgdmhjJU7OM
10 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
I'll still take Trump over HRC if given the choice. There's a chance Trump really is a well-meaning idiot who will moderately fuck up the country for a few years. That seems preferable to WW3.
4 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
$$$$$$
12 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
He's already filthy rich. He's not in it for the money.
1 flartibartfast 2016-11-07
yes but he could be stinkin' filthy rich.
5 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
He's got that too. At this point he could spend the rest of his life on a yacht in a hot tub filled with supermodels. For the rest of his life since he is a 70 year old man. And: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56SxICbH1i8
1 xveganrox 2016-11-07
There's always richer.
1 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
Watch this: https://youtu.be/rNTd0oGXGJE?t=49s
What's your opinion?
2 George_Tenet 2016-11-07
Haven't seen his whole bit til now funny he got booed about calling out her getting info early from donna brazile,,x I wonder who was booing
3 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
Elite donors and the media. Only people allowed in.
2 seryan 2016-11-07
Wow what a show. Even tho i felt that some jokes didnt belong at a event like that.
Btw whos the guy sweating and drinking water all the time ? (guy to the left from a viewer perspective)
1 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
Dunno. Only person that matters is Donald Trump. Have you voted?
2 seryan 2016-11-07
Sadly im a poor swede : / Im just very invested cause i got friends from all parts of the world and i dont wanna see a new war or more drone attacks...
12 ShepDoggg 2016-11-07
Lmao Trump is not JFK
2 sleaze_bag_alert 2016-11-07
yeah but this sub is filled with retards now. They are just like the SJWs that want to "FEEL" like they are part of some sort of "revolution". It is really easy to get these types to believe anything you want: first present the current reality and explain how it is corrupt and all lies...once you have them agreeing with you there then you can literally feed them any bullshit non-sourced article you want and they will believe everything it says simply because it isn't the mainstream source that you showed was wrong/biased/etc. The level of brainwashing in this supposedly free-thinking sub is just plain sad. I have been avoiding it for weeks for this very reason. I decided to check it out again today....regretting that decision. Might as well just rename this sub the_donald because that is all it is these days.
1 ShepDoggg 2016-11-07
It's pretty sad seeing rational political discourse die. Both The Donald and any Hilary leaning subs are hopelessly divided. Conservatives immediately dismissed as racists/etc while liberals dismissed as "cucks". HRC supporters who say they support democracy scheming how to deny Trump electoral votes. Trump supporters gloating every chance they get.
0 ronintetsuro 2016-11-07
I dont know what happened to this sub, but I just read a comparison of Trump to JFK.
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
Nahh...Just your imagination.
-2 DominizZzle 2016-11-07
Trump wants peace?! Lmao so guess his whole entire "I'm going to crush ISIS!" spiel was complete bullshit? He's going to defeat ISIS with diplomacy now? Give me a break.
15 flartibartfast 2016-11-07
Well we are already supposedly attacking ISIS in order to bring peace, so not a great argument. We are actually supporting them, so if he did actually attack them he might be able to actually achieve something. Doubtful, but not arming them might be a good first step.
6 DominizZzle 2016-11-07
We invaded and conquered a foreign land and are surprised that the inhabitants are attacking us? We went to the middle east for oil and shouldn't even be there at all. Just seems like common sense to stay way the fuck way from there.
12 flartibartfast 2016-11-07
no one is surprised, this is all part of the plan. You need to realize nothing in geopolitics happens by chance.
7 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
Plan overall = Isreal expansion. Use US military. Refugees destabilize targeted countries.
Wait, how many refugees did Israel take in again?
2 MSparta 2016-11-07
Negative, I would think, sending palestinians out
1 waheifilmguy 2016-11-07
It will restore that faith in Trump supporters only. Everyone else will think the fix was in.
1 RuPaulver 2016-11-07
So if someone who's down in almost every poll and has an unprecedented level of opposition for a presidential candidate wins the election, it's proof the system works?
If that happens there's probably something wrong.
1 Cystee 2016-11-07
I guess your faith is restored. Go and preach the gospel of democracy.
21 Muxiux 2016-11-07
I feel we have all learnt that even when clear evidence is provided publicly which should place a number of powerful people before a judge that nothing happens. We understand just the kind of strength the mainstream media holds as well as those in power.
When I Google into both Clinton and Trump I see nothing on the corrupt CF, Podesta, Pedo rings etc. This election really has concluded for me that most of society is dumbed down, brainwashed and too sensitive! People hate in what someone says on camera (Trump) over what someone does off camera (Clinton).
7 trytheCOLDchai 2016-11-07
Well said and on point
15 wrestlingchampo 2016-11-07
I got the sense that the FBI brought this up again, with the intention ahead of time to "close the case" again before the election, thereby reassuring the uninformed proletariat that there's nothing to see here, move along, and vote for your queen.
6 George_Tenet 2016-11-07
Yep
10 cm18 2016-11-07
Was scanning The_Donald and there was a post indicating that the NYPD was told to hand over all materials relating to their investigation and to stop the investigation. So, basically, the FBI opened their own investigation so they could stop the NYPD investigation and confiscate all the evidence.
3 IamNotYourBuddy 2016-11-07
This is pretty typical protocol. However, quite sly if this whole thing was done specifically to stop the NYPD investigation. I have my doubts about this because the NYPD probably weren't going to get anywhere with those emails anytime soon and they also weren't going to get anywhere in general because they weren't going to get access to the emails and other evidence the FBI already had. There would be no way to cross check anything.
If this is true, it may be a power move by the FBI to get the emails and other evidence in their position, and their position only. The FBI has a better ability to keep that stuff safe without anything leaking. There is probably more damning stuff in those emails other than a couple being classified.
1 [deleted] 2016-11-07
Dude, we live in 2016. How is it possible to confiscate digital evidence?
7 qkrnxtl 2016-11-07
Claims on twitter that fear is winning out and allowing pressure from above to squash this, again... https://twitter.com/hectormorenco/status/795659098641444864 https://twitter.com/jerome_corsi/status/795708950620598274
1 watsupbru 2016-11-07
How the hell does that guy still have any credibility when he was wrong over and over again
5 IamNotYourBuddy 2016-11-07
I'm not even going to touch Trump being good for America, but I would assume the FBI cleared Hillary for the fact that Comey wants to keep his job. I don't think it was ever planned to investigate further with the new emails. He wrote the letter specifically so it would be leaked and cause controversy.
3 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
It was the move to make, when you think about it. I mean, by all accounts, a lot of people at the NYPD knew about the emails and about the fact that they'd been turned over to the FBI. If you're Comey, what do you do? Wait till the information is leaked by the NYPD and have a situation where it looks like the FBI now has double the amount of emails they initially had and are trying to keep it on the down low, or give the appearance of being totally forward and transparent by announcing it before anyone else does, knowing fully well that you'll whitewash HRC a second time before the election? It's a pretty easy choice.
2 hWatchMod 2016-11-07
Wild night, eh?
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
Indeed. Maybe the American voters have some sense after all.
2 I00PercentFresh 2016-11-07
I had the same opinion as you, and I'm very surprised at the turnout tonight. What do you think of it?
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
Very interesting. I hope the Secret Service is as good as they think they are.
2 Doxep 2016-11-07
"doesn't stand a hope in hell", huh?
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
Well, I stand corrected! There is hope in hell.
1 Johnsonjay63 2016-11-07
It's only for a day or two (Hopefully). Things are heating up in Gotham with FBI between a rock and a hard place again (3rd time). New York investigation squad informed FBI of their finds when investigating the Carlos Danger case. Its going to be mind altering event?
https://youtu.be/iWgGzzM8oiM
1 Mrexreturns 2016-11-07
If Trump gets elected, expect Hillary throw a revolution to "Restore American Democracy" to overthrow him and make herself the eternal potus, or Trump is much worse than Hillary.
No side is good for America.
1 DankFayden 2016-11-07
As he wins proving that theory wrong
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
Evidently.
1 DankFayden 2016-11-07
I love how everyone on this sub was freaking out, yelling about how Hillary was gonna get in its so rigged theres no way trump will ever get in the puppetmasters won't let it happen. And then trump wins the election. I wanna see what outdated or poor sources they find to support their theories from before, what they use to twist this into a bugger theory.
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
You do realize that nothing will change, except the name of the "President". Economics, foreign and domestic policy...etc will be business as usual.
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
You do realize that nothing will change, except the name of the "President". Economics, foreign and domestic policy...etc will be business as usual.
1 DankFayden 2016-11-07
I don't fully believe that no, but I do know this sub was ranting about how Hillary was guaranteed to get in and hd a bunch of "legitimate sources" just to be proven wrong, I wanna see how it's spun
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
Me too.
1 Strickland_FJ 2016-11-07
What do you say now that Trump has won?
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
I was surprised as a lot of people were.
0 darksiderising 2016-11-07
I can't tell if this is satire or not. Either way, it's hilarious.
1 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
Thanks.
99 JayneT70 2016-11-07
Choice is an illusion. By holding elections and allowing us to vote; gives all of us the illusion our choices matter. They don't. The next president has already been chosen for us. "It’s called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it" George Carlin
24 somedudegeekman 2016-11-07
Love George.
He also said in the same bit that power never investigates itself.
30 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2016-11-07
Of course it does, and it finds itself Not Guilty. Then it blames the Russians.
1 somedudegeekman 2016-11-07
Haha! Well played, sir! /agree.
4 JayneT70 2016-11-07
Wish he was still around we need more people like him
3 Atalanta8 2016-11-07
I know. He would have slayed this election
8 xveganrox 2016-11-07
And the two candidates are coincidentally BFFs too - what a shocker!
1 JayneT70 2016-11-07
Daughters are BFF's too
1 DimensionsIntertwine 2016-11-07
Who are BFFs? I sure hope you're not saying Hillary and Donald are close...
1 xveganrox 2016-11-07
Of course they are. Bill was the one who told Trump to run. They just spent the last year telling us how different the other was and how evil the other was. I sure hope you don't think Trump is going to make good on his promise to appoint a special prosecutor to look into Clinton.
3 peterson2004 2016-11-07
By playing the game - you give consent to accept the results.
2 [deleted] 2016-11-07
we do have choice, but we only select the management style. the owners, as always, remain exactly the same.
73 buckeyelegend44 2016-11-07
This is the most predictable election ever. The fact that Hillary is even allowed to be running is mind blowing. Whats worse is people will actually vote for her
19 Legalise_Gay_Weed 2016-11-07
Never underestimate human stupidity.
4 TClatch2 2016-11-07
ay
3 FinntheFlobot 2016-11-07
Not as predictable as we thought.
3 pooptypeuptypantss 2016-11-07
Ok... so Trump won...
So now what's going to happen with all the people saying that the election was rigged for Hilary to win?
2 hi_imandrew 2016-11-07
or not.. as it turns out.
1 Rosssauced 2016-11-07
Bad that she is allowed to run
Worse that people will vote for her
Worst that she will win and try to brush it all under the rug.
1 watsupbru 2016-11-07
People are foaming at the mouth of having their own version of American royalty.
We escaped the clutches of them when we fought for our independence from Britain. But here we are centuries later willfully voting in our own version. If not her, then the entertaining man that says funny things on my TV!
1 Cystee 2016-11-07
Predictable aye?
1 doomedrig 2016-11-07
Most predictable? I thought so as well...
Now THAT was unexpected!
48 itisadilemna 2016-11-07
The world is run by satanic child molesters and the_Donald broke the story. That sums up this election for me.
4 Commissar_Sae 2016-11-07
You realise that's retarded right? I mean you actually believe the entire political class are pedophile satanism? Or just the Democrats? Either way that is the stupidest, most baseless argument possible.
It's literally a page out of the Nazi handbook of propaganda. Accuse the enemy of the worst crimes imaginable and the idiots will eat it up. Protocols of the elders of zion in der sturmer all over again.
4 Uberfeedus 2016-11-07
Right all that research is just bologna. Shhiiillll
2 Commissar_Sae 2016-11-07
Sweet, where can I get my paycheck? Seriously if you believe in that shit you really need to go back and learn about what makes a source viable.
3 BWet00 2016-11-07
Just going to leave this here
1 itisadilemna 2016-11-07
South Korea would like a word with you.
1 Commissar_Sae 2016-11-07
One politician being manipulated by a cult makes sense. there is evidence, it's happened many times before. Rasputin being the prime example.
arguing that dozens if not hundreds of high level politicians are all in on a child kidnapping/molesting occult society with the bare minimum of evidence is ridiculous.
I can believe that most of them collude and work together to screw us over pretty easily. Saying they are devil worshipping pedophiles is just kind of dumb.
1 very_bad_programmer 2016-11-07
Link?
47 swamiOG 2016-11-07
I am saddened by the rhetoric at University of Michigan... Everyone is so pro-Hillary and so fearful of Trump, that if you bring up the fact that the election is rigged, not real, or that she's a criminal etc. you just get ostracized.
I met a girl last night who was literally in tears because she was so fearful of Trump. That is how well they are manipulating us through MSM and Social Media...
18 RomanWillNeverReign 2016-11-07
It's very sad. It's almost as if they've been on a path their whole life, a path of manipulation, to this point. To be so blind to vote for someone as corrupt as Hillary requires an extraordinary amount of manipulation.
1 Toke_Blue 2016-11-07
I keep trying to explain this to people. Mainly my own age (20). No-one knows what's seriously going on and no-one can think outside of that box they have been put in.
1 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
There's a huge amount of cognitive dissonance involved here
7 msoc 2016-11-07
I'm in the area as well. Clinton signs everywhere. My kid came home from school one day and said "Donald Trump is a meanie, vote Hillary!" /facepalm
2 chickenshitmchammers 2016-11-07
Now that's scary. If the kids only knew. She probably literally eats children.
5 phallaciouslycorrect 2016-11-07
People have been conditioned to "feel" because they are unique and only felt life matters; thus making themselves easy pawns. Sadly democracy doesn't guarantee that any of the choices are beneficial to the voters.
2 Sik_17 2016-11-07
Literally sitting with a group watching the results (in Ann Arbor) and they are completely freaking out by how this night is going
2 swamiOG 2016-11-07
Lmao same here. The same girl I was talking about is currently sobbing downstairs, like actually sobbing.
2 residiot 2016-11-07
Standing at a trump event I saw with my own eyes his hate and the hate he stirred up. My dislike of trump has nothing to do with being brainwashed, for me it was about research and voting my conscious
1 freedom311 2016-11-07
I was talking to 3 people in a big city scared of Trump.
Big cities = lots of media and can easily brainwash people.
Out in the rural areas it's easy to see through the bullshit.
45 KurtSTi 2016-11-07
Anyone who votes Hillary is functionally retarded. I'm not saying vote for Trump, but there's more than enough information and evidence to prove Hillary guilty of several federal crimes. It's ridiculously obvious how hard the state department and Obama have been covering for her and slowing down investigations, which is only more suspicious given the fact that lying Obama is directly implicated in her coverup of Benghazi and her email server in which he was found to have communicated on under a pseudonym.
17 Legalise_Gay_Weed 2016-11-07
I'm not American, but I can assure you that this looks utterly bizarre from my viewpoint too. You have a woman, who is obviously a criminal, running for office and nobody is brave enough to stop her. This is the kind of shit you expect to see in the most corrupt nations in Africa, but not in the US. Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive enough to think that corruption isn't rife in all governments, but this is taking it to a whole new level. They are flaunting it right out in the open, for the whole world to see.
I hate Mr Trump, but I'm supporting him today.
10 Babelwasaninsidejob 2016-11-07
What do you mean "brave enough to stop her"? Hillary is part of a powerful national (and international) political faction. She has a tremendous amount of political capital and appears to be spending it wisely. There are also a number of questionable deaths amongst those that stood in her way or represented some threat. So maybe it's not bravery that's keeping people from stopping her.
13 THE_LORD_HERESY 2016-11-07
IMHO, anyone who votes is functionally retarded. If a person honestly believes that the global elite will allow the common joe to decide the leadership of the most advanced and richest country on the face of the Earth, by filling in a bubble next to a name, then yeah...functionally retarded in my book.
41 AdamNRG 2016-11-07
If this election has taught me anything, it's how fucked the world really is and how little people seem to care. I honestly feel SO deflated about the whole thing it's unreal . All the evidence that's come to light, it's all there in black and white and it's all been completely brushed under the carpet and nothing is going to be done. That and the amount of ignorant people who just say oh it's fake or I don't care I still want Hilary to win is mind boggling. The things she has done and will continue to do with no consequences is just astounding. How the hell has it come to this? What went wrong with humanity that money, power and greed is more important than what's right? It really does just seem like we are completely powerless and just have to put up with it because they have money and so many people will turn a blind eye if the price is right.
Sorry for a bit of a miserable rant but I just need to vent to people that will actually get where I'm coming from with this. I'm sure some of you guys feel the same.
2 Findsyourshit 2016-11-07
I just thought I'd say that I feel the same way; I connect with what you're saying. Your thoughts here echo my own. The only thing I'd add is that this election has shown me the system in place, from the media to Reddit to the "Justice" department. It's all set up to herd people along the "official" story.
Sorry to add to your misery.
1 UltraLisp 2016-11-07
Trump as Pres. will make you feel better, bro.
38 lakdaddy 2016-11-07
Exercise your right to protest you lazy fucks!
25 Rosssauced 2016-11-07
What is rarely understood is that far too many of us are in a position where the choice is protest or eat. Skip work to occupy and you will be fired, homeless and without healthcare.
I'm of the belief that more must be done for sure but the system is designed around helplessness this way. It's terrible but I believe it holds the key to retribution. Make them helpless and the fight can begin.
2 royald_lk 2016-11-07
completely agree with the position of protest or eat, but, how do you suppose we make them helpless?
6 NSFWIssue 2016-11-07
I think more important than job security situations involved in protesting in the US is something that no one ever talks about: The US is enormous for one country, with an enormous population. We don't have a few major cities to protest in, we have dozens or hundreds spread out over several thousand miles and also seperated by wide gulfs of culture (relatively speaking).
Even if mass protests occur in the capital city, that's just one place representing a tiny fraction of the population. The coordination required is nigh impossible by itself, ignoring the motivation required.
It's the same reason the style of democratic socialism practiced in much of Europe is just not possible on the US scale, in my opinion.
2 hglman 2016-11-07
The point is that federalism is necessary to be effective. Laws should generally be enacted in the smallest government that can effectively enact them.
2 cm18 2016-11-07
I'm going to fight for my right to party.
1 elcad 2016-11-07
I'm just going to party.
1 Cantinabandacoustic 2016-11-07
PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTY!
1 [deleted] 2016-11-07
I actually think live protesting is old fashioned and counter productive.
You know what they do at protests now? Collect surveillance on the protestors, plant false dissidents who break shit, and then use said incidence to delegitimize the issue at hand, and increase surveillance laws and further militarization of the police. No thanks. I don't feel like getting a faceful of pepper spray, water gunned, or arrested for expressing my first amendment right.
In the past, the goal of protests were to call attention to a subject, so that the media would report on it and get others to care. We no longer require the media to bestow importance on information, thank God. We also don't have to physically assemble in order to disperse information.
Ergo, protests are useless. We are not lazy for not engaging in them; we're just smarter.
-4 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
Are you kidding me? What exactly would protest accomplish? If it were a non-violent protest we would be shrugged off & dismissed as "crazy sore losers" by the media and the sheeple who believe the media. Not only that, but most people can't afford to take off of work to spend time "protesting." Many of us have families to care for that need food and a safe place to live. If violent protest - the military is more than prepared for that, and the elite would love that more than anything because they would get to unleash their baby - martial law. That would be their dream come true. Sorry, but I don't advocate putting people's lives in danger just to most likely make the situation worse. The corruption is too severe and average Americans are utterly incapable of successfully rebelling against this nation's military. This isn't the 1800s. They have weapons far beyond what we're capable of attaining as average citizens. You don't know what you're talking about.
8 lakdaddy 2016-11-07
It would show them that there is zero fear in The People, which is all I can grasp from your comment - fear.
It would also accomplish much more than sitting at home liking and disliking Facebook comments or upvoting and downvoting Reddit threads and their comments.
Log off, get up and get out there.
-1 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
Yep! You're dumb if you don't fear them. These people launch "terrorist attacks" on their own citizens. They don't give a crap about anyone.
Not happening. 1) I have 2 small kids to take care of, 2) I'm 7 months pregnant, and 3) I refuse to put my safety at risk to "protest" (mainly because of the first 2 reasons stated)
Great suggestion!
4 Rosssauced 2016-11-07
Unfortunately we are victims of a society that tells our history operates in a most Carlylean way. "Great men move history" is what we are subliminally taught and being that we aren't one of them learned helplessness takes over as we wait for a hero. We wait for an MLK, we wait for Ghandi, we wait for Jesus Damn Christ when if we were to change the paradigms we simply need those willing to fight the good fight.
We need someone willing to die for the cause and those types are in short supply when the populace is well fed and entertained. You have too much to live for to be the spark, to preform that all important act. I don't believe I am the person to do it either due to cowardice or otherwise but every bit of me wants it to happen.
Good luck to you sister and all of yours, it is a very interesting time to be alive.
3 xveganrox 2016-11-07
You could just invade a federal wildlife reserve. Lots of media attention and pretty good odds you don't even get convicted of anything. 1/9 chance you get shot on the scene though.
2 Phinigma 2016-11-07
If it was organized well enough and had enough support it could absolutely be done. It would take many thousands of people but it could happen. If enough people were committed and effectively communicated their intentions to the general public, the fence sitters would join in and the movement would grow. No not everyone can afford to protest but there are a lot of people who just feel it isn't worth the financial burden they would take on to do it. If they saw enough other people doing it, they might join in.
32 MONK_BRO 2016-11-07
Assuming Hillary wins, what would be the best way to peacefully revolt? Could we all simultaneously hold off on paying taxes?
36 Phinigma 2016-11-07
If you got enough people to do it sure, but you won't. The best course of action is mass organized protest on the capital. They won't admit it, but the jails are overcrowded as it is. They can only "arrest" so many people before they have to start thinking of a better solution. Force the government to shut down. Block them from getting to their jobs, shut down the streets around government facilities and make them listen. The international media, corrupt or not, will have no choice but to cover it. Refuse to cease and desist until they take action. Do not get violent but don't back down. Make them call the police and then the Army. If they continue to escalate the situation with weapons and violence, the outside world, (Other first-world countries), will get involved. If there is enough outrage, they will have no choice but to give in.
8 flartibartfast 2016-11-07
they don't need jails, they throw you in dog sized cells in a warehouse, process you then send you a bill.
3 hglman 2016-11-07
What do they need with that bulldozer, why is it digging a big hole...
2 MONK_BRO 2016-11-07
usually people like us and I am assuming most of the people on this board have full-time jobs and protesting is out of the question. it would be nice to force a govt shutdown but don't have an idea how.
6 IamNotYourBuddy 2016-11-07
Revolt and peace are two different things.
1 BasedAssadReturns 2016-11-07
LMAO
2 Legalise_Gay_Weed 2016-11-07
He has to say peaceful. Be smarter.
1 weigh_all_sides 2016-11-07
If everyone stopped paying taxes, the feds would just print more money. Taxes only fund local governments. Federal taxes are there to ensure you (a) have less income and (b) to force people to use their currency.
30 The_Ruffneck 2016-11-07
From what i believe Trump will win so they can blame the economic collapse on him and conservatives.If Hillary does get in they need to start WW3 as an excuse for the economic collapse.They cannot keep the current economic system up for a full term, no way in hell.
We will find out tomorrow.
10 Legalise_Gay_Weed 2016-11-07
I disagree. You are right that they can't avoid the economic collapse, but they can go to war with Russia to mitigate the consequences. They need Hillary in office to do that.
11 The_Ruffneck 2016-11-07
Well the next day after the election is 11/9. Numerologically that is an excellent day for a large stock market crash which would happen in the event of a Trump win. Gonna be an interesting few months whoever wins.
7 Legalise_Gay_Weed 2016-11-07
It should also be noted that John Kerry is in fucking Antarctica until the 13th. That seems highly suspicious to me, as it looks like he's protecting himself from something. Suffice to say, you could be right. I'm finding this one extremely hard to call.
3 msoc 2016-11-07
This morning I saw 77 on one license plate and 777 on the one next to it. Reminded me of your last post.
1 DentistySch 2016-11-07
You mean the Austin Martin One77?
1 hglman 2016-11-07
A truly epic exercise is gross excess.
1 DentistySch 2016-11-07
I'm new to this sub-reddit, but heavily into finance. Mind telling me your reasons for thinking an economic collapse is going to occur?
3 The_Ruffneck 2016-11-07
20 trillion in debt. Adding over a trillion per year.
The strength of the US Dollar as a world currency is dependent on being used to pay for oil.That is a huge part of what the middle east war is about now.The USA is currently losing the wars in the middle east, the petrodollar is in grave danger of losing it's status.When that happens expect very high inflation.
Also the economic numbers put out by the US government are fake.All total BS.
26 Skybluvalleykid 2016-11-07
I voted 3rd party my hands are clean, need to pick up some beer after work. y no emp?
10 LaraDark 2016-11-07
That's how I feel about it We won't be responsible for the fuckery of whatever the future brings
3 d4rch0n 2016-11-07
If anyone gives me shit, I would say "If your Hillary votes went to Johnson, we wouldn't be in this mess!"
All these Hillary supporters, stealing away our Libertarian votes. And all these Libertarian votes, stealing away all the Republican votes. All these preferable candidates, stealing away votes because people rather them be president.
A wasted vote is voting for someone you don't want to be president. I never have and never will vote for a president I don't want.
2 Skybluvalleykid 2016-11-07
Exactly ding, ding, ding this guy gets it.
21 throwaway199xx 2016-11-07
I'm not saying vote for Trump, but how can someone vote for:
You guys REALLY are either just stupid not to see it all, or just BLIND.
If she really wins we will see a WORLD WAR THREE in our lifetime...
3 kurtchella 2016-11-07
The thing is most people don't know, or won't know if they're trapped in the work/student debt/mainstream news cycles. And if they have heard of these, they'll probably dismiss you. And even if they don't dismiss you, you have to inform them about so much & about such complicated issues in a concise yet logical way that doesn't lean too partisan. Not playing Devils Advocate with you, but that's how hard it is. Most people don't even know about Qadaffi or about Wikileaks
20 Dippy_Egg 2016-11-07
Mere hours until Hillageddon or The Trumpocalypse...
20 Birdie_Jim81 2016-11-07
I hope you all are ready for the final nail in the coffin of what is America. As much as i dont want it to happen, Hillary will win and we will all pay the price.
13 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
Yuuuuuge false flag before march, guaranteed.
8 trytheCOLDchai 2016-11-07
Then bye bye second amendment
11 Yanqui-UXO 2016-11-07
Let's hope we don't let it go easily
18 TruthBomb9000 2016-11-07
Doesn't matter who wins.
Clinton is owned by Rothschilds, Soros, Goldman Sachs, and the entirety of the International Banking Cabal. Open Borders, Feminist, Satanists, Absolute Nonsense.
Trump is Pro-Zionist. Just met with Israel PM last week. Daughter is married into Kushner family and converted to Judaism. Stop and Frisk. Bomb the hell out of whoever. Being advised by the likes of Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, Steven Mnuchin, etc.
Either way expect more meddling in the Middle East, more money printing out of thin air, less civil liberties all the way around. This Country has been finished for a long time before this election, this is just to make it clear to all Americans in an overt manner.
17 tehNOViCE 2016-11-07
It saddens me to see that nothing came out of this investigation...and tomorrow, we shall see what we have all been dreading.
Maybe, just maybe things will be different.
Be safe out there.
16 rareiamgery 2016-11-07
The really sad part is how many felonies, pay to play, election fraud, intent to destroy evidence or hinder FBI investigation, straight up lies, the list is endless of Clinton crimes, did Reddit find and the FBI failed find even one.
It's hard to know what to think.
8 atherius_sin 2016-11-07
It was just a nice little P.R. stunt from her pals.
See?? Shes innocent guys! Go vote for her!
2 [deleted] 2016-11-07
Naw, they have way more shit on her and the CF than we do.
3 MonsignorFrollo 2016-11-07
The investigation was a phony show. Nobody intended to do anything.
17 somedudegeekman 2016-11-07
BEST OUTCOME: HRC is elected then impeached within her first couple years. It's a win-win all around: No Trump. First woman elected. HRC and WJC get to be twinsies with that little impeach asterisk after their name in history.
BEST OUTCOME BONUS: Republican party goes the way of the Whigs and is replaced by something resembling rational (or not) and DNC leadership implodes.
MOST BOLD OUTCOME: No change.
MOST BOLD OUTCOME BONUS: Kardashians get another ten seasons. Oh, and decapitation becomes legal in the NFL to avoid brain injury lawsuits.
9 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
Misread decapitation as decepticon and got really excited for NFL games. Then realized it was decapitation, and still got a little interested in the NFL.
1 somedudegeekman 2016-11-07
ROBOT WARS, PEOPLE.
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2 somedudegeekman 2016-11-07
I like to think if good candidates appear - regardless of their private parts - people will gravitate to them anyway.
17 [deleted] 2016-11-07
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12 daslobo 2016-11-07
Bah gawd! That's Bernie Sanders music! Grabs a steel folding chair from the top rope...
15 chi-hi 2016-11-07
It's going to be a shit show.
If it's close it's not ending tomorrow. If it's not close then all will call bs
15 Ras-Al-Ghoul 2016-11-07
The fix is probably in via voting machine fraud. Its unaccountable so they wont get caught. Like Assange said, "Trump won't be permitted to win", meaning the establishment already coronated her and all of this was a formality, she will magically win despite having record low voter enthusiasm.
15 Hith_Ransir 2016-11-07
For all the times i said it would never happen, that clinton was pre selected, i must say i was wrong. At some point, the powers that be realized they couldn't keep up the damage control, and bailed on her. Feels good to stand corrected! I apologize to the people whose hopefulness i cynically disregarded with defeatism.
7 Jeffersonien 2016-11-07
Same. Me too guys.
14 biomike14 2016-11-07
Why am I surprised MSM refuses to call it for Trump. They're probably all wondering wtf is going on? This wasn't what was on the script...
14 chrisarthur85 2016-11-07
So many friends ( on Facebook and real life) are so upset right now about the way this election turned out. I am thinking of deleting Facebook for the mere fact that so many of these people refuse to see how much more evil hrc was and that she should of been thrown in jail months ago. Is it right that someone can be so vocal about hrc and not anyone else? Should I feel ashamed that I can't support/ join in their frustration that their corrupted messiah didn't win? In a way it's like hrc won the election considering all the posts im seeing on fb right now. I don't know who to side with or show compassion to. Shouldn't we all be happy that a criminal didn't take office? It's very depressing for me to see these people who I care very much about, who I call my closest companions, who I have shared life with, so lost and blind about the world around them. I have this yearning to share the posts that i see up on r/conspiracy with these people but i don't want them to judge me and think I'm some sort of traitor to my own country. Even though a criminal didn't win and knowing this time around that justice might finally be served, I can't share this relief amongst my social circle and this to me is even more defeating than a criminal taking office because I feel like I'm the criminal even though I did not vote for either trump or Hillary. Tonight, I will fall asleep with an internal joy though bittersweet and especially silent because I was not born blind, but with an ability to see the world differently. The world works in mysterious ways and tonight was proof of that. Maybe tonight was planned, maybe it wasn't but it goes to show that we ought to start putting our belief, our strength, and our worries into something that's more true. What that truth is, I don't really know right now but at least we have 4 years to figure it out. Sorry for the long rant but I really had no where else to go or talk to. It's especially comforting to know that some of you might be feeling like this too. Thanks for listening.
3 freakydeakykiki 2016-11-07
I feel you 100 percent. I was on a huge high last night (actually very early this morning) and as soon as I posted the victory, the negativity began. I went to my feed, and Trump supporters were happy but kept it classy. Totally different story with the others. I ended up closing fb and coming back here to see the optimism and hope I felt before. We can't let them take that away from us.
3 chrisarthur85 2016-11-07
Agreed. It's like everyone was/ still are under some hypnotic spell. I never seen a people mourn for someone like they did for hrc. What were these people hoping for with her in office?
2 MereMemetics 2016-11-07
I think they'll start to figure it out rather quickly.
13 todo1740 2016-11-07
I had to take a break from r/The_Donald because some of these people are fucking delusional. I want Trump to win as I know Hillary is the worst you can get but some of the posters there have no clue that this election is getting stolen as we speak. They are flooding the forums with posts just saying "landslide!"
I think if every eligible person in America had one honest vote then Trump wins all day. I think most of the fraud will be done in Florida because they can keep it isolated to that state and they know it is a must win for Trump.
2 -R0SE 2016-11-07
Florida has been giving me so much anxiety.
When Florida falls, its the end of Trump's run...
I hate the feeling that these numbers are purposefully neck and neck to give us some kind of illusion of hope. Same with these big leads Trump keeps coming upon- when the liberal west is reached, those are all going down the drain.
This is pitiful.
edit: i'm confused... republicans won florida
1 _FAPPLE_JACKS_ 2016-11-07
I'm an independent who mostly has progressive views but I can't stand like 90% of progressive people. They are so damn regressive with how they try and do things. You don't agree with their opinion than you're some kind of ism/ist insult, and they will go out of their way to fuck your life up by getting you fired from your job and publicly shaming you. I fucking loathe the Clintons but the only place to get anti Clinton news is by shifting through that shit show over at The Donald. They are delusional. So much so I honestly think CTR realized this, and they are the ones spamming landslide and the other mumbo jumbo shit coming from there. Egging on their behavior and making them look that delusional.
13 godlameroso 2016-11-07
This isn't a conspiracy, it's a goddamn shit show, we all know crooked Hillarbilly will get crowned despite the votes, and if Trump does get elected he'll be holding his brains Kennedy style for establishment crony Pence to take over.
In the end this whole drama soaked emotional campaign of psyops and mass misinformation will be glossed over by tomorrow or Thursday.
I really wish our vote could elect someone who could impart meaningful change, someone who has the best interests of the people at large. Centralized government is too disconnected from the people it rules, power needs to be disseminated in smaller pockets, where the people that have it can interact with those who support them at a community level.
Here's to 4 more years of increased debt, more wars, more taxes, bigger government, and more secret government cover-ups. In other words, business as usual, regardless of who gets elected, because guess what, the people we elect don't make the rules. They never have, and they never will, the president, and our elected representatives are slaves and PR men for the real rulers.
May god have mercy on us all.
13 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Clinton doesn't even have the guts/stamina to make a speech. So glad she didn't get in.
3 throwaway199xx 2016-11-07
I hope if she does get one she is met with deafening "Lock her up!" chants.
3 AemonTheDragonite 2016-11-07
They must not have paid her enough to speak.
1 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
I dunno man, there's more video of her collapsing in public that came out just 2 days ago
2 20thsieclefox 2016-11-07
she probably was having such a fucking meltdown.
13 Amadeus_IOM 2016-11-07
How utterly hated do you have to be as a candidate, and how incompetent and self serving do your party and your corrupt cronies have to be to lose against a baboon with a comb over? You had Bernie, you stupid morons, and you chose the one everyone hates. Once again America can't be trusted with as much as a piece of string. Someone call the Queen, it's time to make that place a colony again. You lot are clearly unfit to self-govern and all of the CTR idiots, who so smuggly hjacked r politics and ruined the place for everyone have done their part towards this. Seeing them fail feels so good but seeing Trump and not Bernie win makes me sick.
6 FinntheFlobot 2016-11-07
I've never agreed with someone so much. WE HAD BERNIE. Now we have this. You just had to have Clinton, fucking idiots.
2 RDS 2016-11-07
the DNC actually took Bernie away from the American people. It wasn't their fault. I'm sure if this was Bernie vs. Trump he would've won.
12 2_5_7 2016-11-07
Welp
It's finally here, and boy have I been dreading this day.
Tomorrow we will have a corrupt treasonous lying bitch as our new president despite it all.
The chosen one.
It is her turn after all!
I'm not a Trump fan by any means, but thinking about Clinton being the next president after cheating her way to this point (not to mention everything else) truly saddens me. The bitch should be in jail.
Feelings of change are enveloping the nation at the moment and it's hard not getting caught up in it all, but when you are honest with yourself and take a good look at the situation it's easy to see we are not headed towards any positive change and things will most likely be getting worse. Which sucks.
But hey, maybe Trump will win and he really is everything the people over at T_D say he is. I'm not holding my breath though.
Many round here feel like voting is pointless, and it probably is. But the way I look at it that you're not really losing anything by going out and doing it, and on the off chance your ballot doesn't land on a small fire somewhere, well at least you cast your vote.
Grab some alcohol and sit back and enjoy the show. Good luck to us all.
5 rolltide26 2016-11-07
Let me just say this. In that article where the cameraman after a Matt Lauer interview alleged that she flipped out because he asked the wrong question, she supposedly said "if he wins we all hang from nooses." If there is truth to that, that says to me that she doesn't think they can rig it to a degree where it is impossible to lose.
2 2_5_7 2016-11-07
I hope you're right, also keep in mind that she did cancel her fireworks show for tonight!
3 kablamy 2016-11-07
Waaaaaaaay ahead of you.
2 BiscuitCat1 2016-11-07
I agree with you. I'm not even going to watch the play by play election results tonight.
12 [deleted] 2016-11-07
I see one of three things that are almost guaranteed to happen when Clinton is installed as president:
She will escalate things so bad with Russia that nuclear war will break out. She will keep pushing "missile defense systems" capable of launching missiles all the way to Moscow so close to their border that they will feel threatened and snap. I wouldn't blame them either. I can't imagine how Putin feels towards the West. Our leaders literally do not negotiate and use diplomacy. It's war first, talk later. Hillary has said herself several times that she will go hard on Russia. She is an evil war hawk, no doubt about it. At least Trump has talked about de-escalating tensions with them.
There will be massive reports and evidence of voter fraud which will make people so mad that they'll actually do something. Massive riots all over the country and a policeman will end up killing some unarmed kid which will then provoke retaliation. The Second American Civil War. Another more plausible scenario is that Clinton will go hard on the Second Amendment and provoke protests and riots that way.
Another 9/11 false flag attack on the USA to get people to forget everything and go back to the way things were. Another Iraq War, millions more dead in the name of "fighting terrorism". This cycle will continue, and decades later, through the use of new technology and more complex social conditioning, people will be so dumb and sedated that they'll give up all of their rights without resistance, starting with the 2nd. The few true patriots left in the country that fight back will be labeled as crazy evil terrorists and be shot down. Brave New World.
2 andronicii 2016-11-07
The election will be "pre-determined." The technology exists to do it, and so it will be done. 9/11 was the coup that started it all, the most perceptive among the intelligentsia caught on quickly and were outright co-opted or have generally independently accepted their condition as "peons" who are just along for the ride. Life is a spectacle decided and projected by the establishment elite and realized by the relevant sectors of the economy (media, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, etc.): so just enjoy the "movie" and hope at most for a well-enough paying job while doing it. "Reality" (that antiquated concept)--possibly not even the elites care for/can keep track of it at this point.
12 -o-o-o 2016-11-07
“They say we need more money for education. That’s the big answer to everything, education. They say we need more money for books, more teachers, more classrooms, more schools, and more testing for the kids, and they’ll say, well we tried all of that, and the kids still can’t pass the tests. Don’t worry about that, because we’re going to lower the passing grades, and that’s what they do in a lot of these schools. They lower the passing grades so more kids can pass – more kids pass, the school looks goods, and the IQ of the country slips another 2 or 3 points. And pretty soon all you’ll need to get into college is a pencil. Got a pencil? Then get in there, it’s physics!
Then people wonder why 17 other countries graduate more scientist than we do. Education – politicians use that word, they use it on you. Politicians have traditionally hidden behind 3 things: the flag, the bible, and children – no child left behind, no child left behind. Oh, really it wasn’t too long ago you were talking about giving children a head start. Head start – left behind, someone’s losing ground here, but there’s a reason. There’s a reason for this. There’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason it’ll never ever be fixed – it’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it, be happy with what you got, because the owners of this country don’t want that. I’m talking about the real owners now. The wealthy big business interests that controls things, and makes all the important decisions.
Forget the politicians, they’re irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice – you don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and payed for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets, and they own all the big media, so they control just about all the information you get. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying – lobbying, to get what they want.
Well we know what they want. They want more for themselves, and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want – they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that – that doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people that are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table, and think about how badly they’re getting screwed by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? Obedient workers – Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines, and do that paper work. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime, and vanishing pension that disappear the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your social security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it – they’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this place. It’s a big club, and you aint in it. You, and I are not in The Big Club.
By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think, and what to buy.
The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard working people: white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard working people continue (these are people of modest being) – continue to elect these rich douchebags who don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you – they don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all – at all – at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.
That’s what the owners counted on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it.”
– George Carlin
12 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Here comes the bullshit. New York Times and AP have called PA for Trump, but no Major Network has called PA for him. Podesta tells all the people at Hillary's HQ to go home and sleep because they won't be conceding tonight.
I don't like this one bit.
12 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Anyone else noticing that the music Trump is walking out to is the same music used in the movie Air Force One after Harrison Ford retakes the plane from Russian Terrorists...
7 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
I didn't but that's fucking hilarious if true
11 Orangutan 2016-11-07
The whole charade is finally over? Well done Donald & Clinton!! Great show.
11 [deleted] 2016-11-07
I welcome the reign of The Glorious Madame Empress, forgive me for my past insubordination. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Rodham, R'lyeh wgah'nagl!
11 Skirmish_38 2016-11-07
God help us all.
11 LaraDark 2016-11-07
I feel like Im on death row waiting for my execution. I'm sick to my stomach
11 andronicii 2016-11-07
Everything seems eerily silent in the online media...
11 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
I feel like there is fuckery afoot.
9 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
Yeah, the longer it goes, the more likely she will win out. He jumped into the lead WAY early and held it for the whole night. If she pulls it off, it will be by the narrowest of margins.
8 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
i have no idea why, but I feel like she's just sitting back with that wicked grin of hers.
11 Reaper137 2016-11-07
Its official, all hail the CombOver Lord
11 alienrefugee51 2016-11-07
The coup, the emails and rednecks did her in
10 101101101101101000 2016-11-07
Everybody agree pretty much on who to vote for, turd sandwhich?
10 beeksie 2016-11-07
I feel that giant douche's positions more adequately reflect my views.
5 REAL-BIG-TUNA 2016-11-07
Im usually a turd sandwich kind of guy but this year I think I'm voting for giant douche.
2 101101101101101000 2016-11-07
I feel you, can even make an argument for chicken chow mein
10 [deleted] 2016-11-07
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4 [deleted] 2016-11-07
Maybe Soros is playing a game he knows he can't lose. Either Clinton gets elected and he gets more control in US.
Or if Trump gets elected, it gives him the option to make more money with the currency(if dollar crashes like with the Brexit), or it will destabilize the nation.
2 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
Soros also funds Black Lives Matter. You better believe they will be in the streets if "racist" Trump wins.
10 barictj 2016-11-07
Last two percent of Pennsylvania is taking a while. If only they could count votes as fast as they read emails
3 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
They must have 35,000 votes to count. There's no way they have over 650,000, cuz then they'd be done already.
1 barictj 2016-11-07
We'll be here for 8 months in that case
9 not---a---bot 2016-11-07
Having looked through this sub for the past month, why hasn't Hillary been indicted over a dozen times?
5 funktwenty 2016-11-07
Obama appointed the DOJ and they're not going to prosecute a crime he's implicated in
9 Evansg1 2016-11-07
Does anyone have a source where we can see how the 3rd party candidates are doing? They're the only votes I really care about in this election.
NVM found it.
3 WolfgangDS 2016-11-07
You gonna share that info?
3 Evansg1 2016-11-07
My apologies.
I googled: Voting Results 2016
A live Google feed will come up. If you select: President --> Popular Vote, you can see how well they're doing. It isn't a breakdown by state, but you can extrapolate from the numbers given and figure it out.
In case you were wondering, 3rd party is getting crucified. No matter how ridiculous the Dems and Reps get, somehow everyone still votes for them. This is a herd mentality I'll never understand.
9 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
Anyone else really nervous about this shit? I seriously have never been more nervous about an election. Mainly I believe because I feel as if something bad is going to go down. Just saw this... Link was not aware till just now.
7 dejeneration 2016-11-07
Feels like Christmas Eve, except I'm not looking forward to anything that comes out of this.
2 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
Wait for the grand finale... the corruption in America... exposed and removed... and then that money they have been stealing goes right back to society.
3 WolfgangDS 2016-11-07
Unfortunately, that's not likely to happen without all of America getting off their asses and picking up some pitchforks.
3 dejeneration 2016-11-07
Wish I could be that optimistic. We're currently in a battle royale between two wannabe oligarchs that never have and likely never will give anything back to society.
2 LaraDark 2016-11-07
I feel like I'm on death row..and my number is up but they haven't told me if I'm going by legal injection or firing squad . All I know is I'm going to die regardless
1 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
haha, yea man yea. So well put.
5 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Yeah man. I've had a pit in my stomach all day.
5 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
Yea this reminds me of boot camp, lol. I don't get nervous easy.
2 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Likewise. Not the boot camp part but the nervous part. I get anxious but the nerves I'm feeling now are different. I hope we're wrong man, but logic says they may try something to get attention off the complete and total shitstorm brewing with all the pedo/satanic/occult stuff.
3 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
You know its like when the cows lay down before a storm. I mean we know somethings fucky but we just don't know what.
2 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Yeah, exactly that. Oddly enough, all of our cats have been acting complete batshit the last couple days. They're all jumpier than usual.
2 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
Seems like animals know something we don't sometimes.
2 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
He is leading the popular vote by more than 600,000 right now.....let's all prepare for the fuckery.
9 matthewfoos15 2016-11-07
NBC heavily reminding us, that it's the white no college degree rural communities that are winning this for trump right now
6 bruceyj 2016-11-07
ABC mentioned this 5 times in an hour
1 matthewfoos15 2016-11-07
Their going to turn the rural against the Urban, the educated against the none. They will continue to divide us straight down the center.
9 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Holy Jesus Trump might actually take PA too
7 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
why didn't you run for President, you fucker
5 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Not evil enough
2 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
would've been better than the shitstorm that's about to come.
3 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
I'd rather face down 1000 shoggoths than be in charge of this shit show
0 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
get ready boys, we're in for a wild ride.
1 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
You're fuckin right about that sir
Seatbelt officially buckled
2 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2016-11-07
I just want to know how the fuck your username was still available 3 years ago?! Especially as I ended up with my ridiculous name 3 years ago as all the good ones were taken.
2 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Just lucky I guess
I have it on twitter too
And LoL
3 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
Honestly, I would have schooled both of them in debates. Of course my only experience is on reddit, so I have zero backbone but still. I have a degree in pol and reddit
9 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
I would just like to say "Fuck the media" for their overall corruption this election.
9 Worse_Wisconsin 2016-11-07
Don't blame Wisconsin, we voted for Bernie. Blame Hillary. She didn't even visit the state once.
I blame her gun control policy. If Democrats would get off guns: 1. The 2nd amendment would be protected by both parties. 2. We could talk about some actual policies.
All my friends voted based on the Supreme Court protecting the 2nd amendment.
Damn Hillary Clinton.
1 Mclovin1524 2016-11-07
As a Wisconsian, Do you believe the state will fall to The Don?
9 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
Damnit, I want to go to bed, but i`m worried that when i do, something fishy is gonna happen on the polls
3 100ftninja 2016-11-07
Same. Work early but I'd hate to miss something.
4 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
Thankfully im umemployed! Woo 22.9%!
2 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
lol same
1 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
At least we will know before many others :)
1 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
True. R conspiracy is one of the only sites i can go to learn the truth, and not the bs on the news
1 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
Hell fucking yea bro. My favorite site on the net.
3 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
Though Its Sad to see how misinformed most people who only watch news are though
1 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
For sure man but this is a victory for the people.
3 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Hillary has officially conceded. Go to bed brah! It's over.
9 AmplifiedHorsemen 2016-11-07
"THIS IS A NEW WORLD ORDER" - CNN ANCHOR
9 ForresterQ 2016-11-07
maybe it's not rigged
5 INTELDracula 2016-11-07
I really don't know what to think right now.
3 bulla564 2016-11-07
They could commit fraud if there wasn't a massive turnout from Trump supporters. There was.
Bernie was never able to overwhelm the fraud against him with numbers because of the nature of the primaries, and because of apathy from Dem voters.
2 Jeffersonien 2016-11-07
Bet your ass its rigged - clinton was just too obviously not what the people wanted especially with criminal investigations, email showing collusion and subversion - you can only fuck the people so much before they revolt --
AND they could let trump win because police state will remain and he'll be surrounded by the usual corrupt gop crowd:
Mob boss chris christi
Underboss Guiliani --
He has a circle of some pretty awful people
So they could let him win.
8 CubsCaliphate 2016-11-07
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9 axolotl_peyotl 2016-11-07
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6 ZapPowerz 2016-11-07
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5 Ecator 2016-11-07
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7 BasketOfDeplorable 2016-11-07
Crooked Hillary
3 George_Tenet 2016-11-07
R/limitedhangouts
1 lavonte_david 2016-11-07
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8 Rosssauced 2016-11-07
I call this bitch Daniel Day Lewis cause their will be blood.
Seriously though r/conspiracy in the event of civil unrest have a plan to get to safety, protect yourself from anyone you do not trust and know that the authorities are not your friends.
Godspeed my friends.
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4 Rosssauced 2016-11-07
I'm about 95% sure it won't happen but a load of various groups have been chest pounding about it so off chance. I'm a believer in prep so I think we should be ready for any disaster.
It's unlikely but if it does I hope you keep safe.
3 dejeneration 2016-11-07
There are certain media sources that are pushing this "civil unrest" fear...basically, whatever my parents and in-laws are reading is pushing it, because every phone call, they ask about it...one day it was "will people riot" and another day it was "will there be a terrorist attack?" It's fear to get them to vote Trump...and unfortunately, it's working pretty well. Our parents don't read anything but links from Drudge or Breitbart no matter how much we try to get them to use multiple sources to vet the information they're getting.
2 Yanqui-UXO 2016-11-07
Godspeed you!
8 mittenshit 2016-11-07
So Trump leads after that small town in NH just voted. Pack it up boys we did it! But no we know Hilary will win. It's been a faux movie the whole time and a lot of use ate it up regardless. And we'll do the same thing 4 years from now if we make it that far
8 Pomask 2016-11-07
Never voted until this year's primary debates. Voted for Sanders , not because I believed in him, but because I thought maybe there was a chance they couldn't steal it if enough people voted against Hillary.
Voted Stein today. Here's why...
Again, I don't believe in this candidate (or my vote being counted for that matter)
I would love to believe Trump is the anti establishment Messiah, but I don't.
Hillary is an absolute monster but nothing we've done, nor the mountain of evidence against her, has stopped her or swayed the lemmings that will vote for her.
I've read on this sub that if the green party gets x% of votes they have to appear at the convention next time (or something like that)
Someone close to me specifically stated that they wouldn't vote green because they voted Nader during the Gore vs Bush election and they believe it cost Gore the election. I'm really not sure if a vote for Stein is a vote for Clinton or a vote for Trump. I don't know which of the two my vote is (hypothetically) helping but I hope my vote for Stein is hurting Clinton.
My hope is that my vote, if counted , will lead to this x% being met, forcing a third party into the limelight next time around. I really can't believe in spite of everything we still couldn't get people to snap out of their A or B ONLY mentality this time around. There were SO many reasons to try something new.
Also worth noting, I live in CA and I'm fairly certain I was given a provisional ballot during the primary. Me and a lot of friends (some who have voted and some who haven't in the past) were all mailed ballots back in May/June even though this had never happened to any of us before. A lot of us went to our polling places.
This is Reddit Conspiracy so I'm pretty sure everyone is up to date on the theory that all of the Bernie votes that were provisional were tossed. Today I went to the polling place and was told that I had requested an absentee balot. The next three people who came in were also told this. Once again, I was given a provisional ballot.
3 saveprivateryne 2016-11-07
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I also voted Stein but I do like her platform. The percentage is 5%. They get a $10 million federal grant next year and something else I can't remember off the top of my head.
1 Pomask 2016-11-07
I feel like the fix has been in on this one for a long time so getting to that 5% mark would be the closest thing to a victory of sorts. Thanks for clearing up the percentage and the reward for reaching it!
1 saveprivateryne 2016-11-07
You are probably right. People like me and you won't know until it gets leaked. Not a problem! Thanks for voting third party!
1 Pomask 2016-11-07
Well I'm not really sure what to think now. Donald fucking Trump is president. Happy Clinton lost for sure but his win is not a victory for US until we see how it plays out. Crazy
1 saveprivateryne 2016-11-07
I'm right there with you. Who knows. We all knew no matter which one won we would all lose.
8 Justlite 2016-11-07
Its like watching an old football game, you don't know exactly who scored what but you remember the result.
Hillary guaranteed to win - they will never let Trump win, not that I like him either but Hillary is so much worse
2 dejeneration 2016-11-07
Hillary can be impeached, and we'll get Kaine. Trump can be brought down with a flick, and we'll get Pence. It's too late now, since polls are mostly closed, but it's sort of one of those things where you need to look at the veeps and composition of the cabinet to decide.
8 gnu6969 2016-11-07
It is incredibly unlikely for Trump supporters to get the president they want. The first point to note is that, if Trump were truly anti-establishment and had any chance to win in fair elections, he would probably not have been allowed to run by the Republicans.
But more importantly, the American and international oligarchy has chosen Hillary, so a fair vote in honest elections is highly unlikely. If the elections are not rigged sufficiently and Trump does win (which is a giant if), AND he is actually anti-establishment, then he will probably be assassinated or neutralized in some other way.
8 Tunderbar1 2016-11-07
Worse spin contest.
In Indiana, Trump is up 70% to 26. Wolf Blitzer says "Trump maintains a significant lead over Clinton".
"Significant". Lol.
A complete fucking blowout.
4 dejeneration 2016-11-07
Gotta look at the number of votes - they projected an easy win in Indiana, but the 70% to 26% was with less than 1% of the vote in. It's down to 63/32 now that 12% vs 1% are in. But still, Trump will take Indiana and that's no surprise to anyone (but by the time all results are in, they'll be closer).
8 smashton89 2016-11-07
Maybe a new theory?
Any shot they give Trump the presidency in exchange for letting Hillary and Bill and Podesta "disappear". Maybe some sort of pardon? I know Trump isn't leading the charge into digging up their corruption, but he certainly shined a huge light on them which caused a lot of Americans to wake up.
Thoughts?
8 Vcastillo115 2016-11-07
We just not gonna talk about this shooting ?
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10 Reaper137 2016-11-07
There was a shooting at a California polling station. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/national/multiple-people-shot-near-california-polling-places/hX7WqWHx2jMnse5HTZ91BL/
2 Captain_BigNips 2016-11-07
Holy Shit!
4 Vcastillo115 2016-11-07
Yeah and im like baffled as to why no one is talking about it. Theres a post on here but on the third page.
8 [deleted] 2016-11-07
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2 WarmCrumb 2016-11-07
I too am confused.
2 ctraut5 2016-11-07
What the hell...
2 derfduh 2016-11-07
I literally took the same picture to post it.
1 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
8 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
PLEASE EXPLAIN, how did Hilary win in New Jersey, clearly Trump won the majority.
1 MsLotusLane 2016-11-07
You don't need to win the majority. Just the electoral votes. Each state does it differently, I think.
8 WolfgangDS 2016-11-07
I'm calling it right now: Clinton "wins," but Trump gets the Snitch.
Here's what I mean: Clinton will be our next president. It doesn't matter who voted for whom. Votes are being switched around and the electoral college will vote any damn way it pleases. But Trump will get the popular vote in the country. He gets the one thing that SHOULD matter, but still loses.
3 dafooz 2016-11-07
This. I made a post in * another * thread but it was a megathread, so my post didn't gain any traction...
2 WolfgangDS 2016-11-07
Of course not. Can't have people stating anything contrary to the narrative, right?
1 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
Yup.
1 XavierSimmons 2016-11-07
The electors don't get to vote any way they please. Many of the states require the electors to vote for the popular winner, and many states allow the parties to bond electors to the party. There aren't very many "free" electors.
8 Xanderoga 2016-11-07
Anyone else seeing what's going on in /r/undelete? No undelete bots have been working for around 16 hours.... Not the only sub either.
Every post and comment being deleted is not being grabbed by multiple bots. Conveniently on election day.
1 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
last one was one hour ago..
1 Xanderoga 2016-11-07
https://www.reddit.com/r/undelete/comments/5buj79/rundelete_rnudelete_rlongtail_and_cedditcom_all/
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1 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
Hmm maybe im not right. I dont browse r/undelete much.
8 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
So, if Trump actually wins, that means that if Hillary helped push him to the forefront, it was the biggest backfire in history.
6 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
Possibly, if Bernie took her spot he would have won undoubtedly.
1 Sordidbass 2016-11-07
Passionate Bernie supporter here. I doubt your statement.
1 DarthNihilus1 2016-11-07
If Bernie rightfully got the nod over Clinton, I imagined more Clinton supporters would back him over the current situation of Bernie voters backing her. Reason being Bernie would have won fair and square and Clinton voters would not mind voting for him to stop Trump.
But the current reality is that many people are NOT voting for Clinton as former Berners, because why would they? The primary was stolen from them? The DNC wanted their golden hag to win it all.
1 Adam87 2016-11-07
That's what I said to my family, people hate Clinton and if Bern was there he would be doing better.
2 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
Plus, her campaign manager and his affiliates are into pedophilia and spirit cooking. Not that I care but I'm not really into that stuff. Bernie's chance was stolen and the wikileaks prove that the DNC rigged the primaries. Either way, Trump in my eyes is decently better than Hilary and her warmongering. Not that presidents have full control over every policy making decision but still.
1 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
If Bernie was running against Trump, yeah. If Bernie was against Rubio, Cruz, I doubt it.
8 mkovic 2016-11-07
I'm happy on a really visceral level that Clinton's getting a run for her money, and on many levels I'm gonna be happy as hell that she doesn't win, if only to restore my faith in our ability to actually choose shit in this country, but god damn if I'm not terrified of what a Trump presidency will look like with his vows to impede green initiatives and progress against climate change.
8 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Anyone notice that a 3rd party almost beat Hillary in Utah?
6 adriava 2016-11-07
Mormons
5 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
I figured that HAD to be the case since I'd never even heard of the candidate
1 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
I think he literally only campaigned there too.
1 t0_0l 2016-11-07
LOL. That plan totally backfired.
8 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
Omg This is Taking about as long as an ps4 game patch
8 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
Foxnews reporting that Hillary won't even show up at her own party to speak tonight.
3 throwaway199xx 2016-11-07
She must be absolutely hammered by now. That's why.
8 scott003 2016-11-07
lol You Can't Always Get What You Want
2 ohcumgache 2016-11-07
I thought I heard it!
8 jschuch 2016-11-07
OMG the commentary live on CNN is just disgusting it is absolutely so full of shit. The character attacks and bias failed you and you failed to do your duties as journalists. Hopefully they will all go bankrupt.
2 johnviku 2016-11-07
On the biggest election night in a century--heck maybe of all time--news show ratings were DOWN from 2012.
2 Barbed_Wire_Bat 2016-11-07
It baffles my brain just how out of touch the media are with the people in 2016. As a UK citizen I can tell you it was exactly the same with Brexit from the BBC. The people have spoken in their masses yet they still continue with their warped and biased agendas.
2 jschuch 2016-11-07
Ya as a US citizen I trust the BBC more than any of our mainstream media sources, but I know what you are saying. I wasn't surprised by Brexit seems to me a whole lot of benefit taking extremists shipped out to Syria or Jail I wouldn't want to welcome the next wave either.
2 superbatprime 2016-11-07
Forget them. The mainstream media sold the last of it's meagre credibility in a last ditch all out propaganda war for Hillary.
They lost. Their time is over.
The heroes of this election are the alt and indie media who kept it real throughout the campaign and provided people with a counterpoint when the entire global media was providing only one monolithic viewpoint. The MSMs collusion and blatant bias has done nothing except ensure the rise of indie and citizen media... Internet killed the news corporation.
Alex Jones for press secretary!
1 jschuch 2016-11-07
Alex Jones can be a moron sometimes, but his site is more accurate than most of the msm. I read a WAPO article this afternoon that picked winners and losers and they admitted that they were losers but in the same sentence denied bias. Un be lievable
7 lordrothschild 2016-11-07
Trump wins, and there's a huge stock crash on Wednesday 11/9.
18 A_PEASANT_RESPONSE 2016-11-07
They won't let him win. My prediction: FL tips for Clinton by 1-2%, PA stays blue.
I'm keeping an eye on Michigan because I know they have strict voter laws. If it turns red, should be a clear indicator that something is fucky in other states.
7 The_Ruffneck 2016-11-07
Like they wouldn't let brexit win?
4 A_PEASANT_RESPONSE 2016-11-07
I hope I'm wrong, I really do.
1 kablamy 2016-11-07
I've found myself saying this entirely too much the past few weeks.
You know it's bad when the best case scenario is being wrong.
1 lolyeahright 2016-11-07
Brexit was something that USA has interest in, which is why it was allowed to happen.
10 ZapPowerz 2016-11-07
Regardless of who wins, the dollar is going to collapse and with it, the US economy.
12 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2016-11-07
The Global economy. They applied band-aids after 2008 but the wound kept bleeding.
2 8n0n 2016-11-07
Monty Puthon's The Black Knight comes to mind whenever someone mentions the economy.
2 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2016-11-07
Tis but a scratch.
3 IamNotYourBuddy 2016-11-07
Yes, the man who was in bed with the Clintons until a few years ago will win in a seemingly rigged election. Elections aren't about winning everyone over, it's about winning just enough and throwing enough shit towards the other person to get by as their voters jump ship. Trump loses nothing by getting slandered by Clinton. There's a reason why the more popular he got, the more outlandish things he said. His job was never to try and win, it was just to destroy the credibility of the GOP (Jeb is ruined, Rubio probably wont win back his Senate seat, lying Ted is mostly tarnished) and make Hillary look good by comparison as he made himself look like a fool and took a bunch of shit.
1 MrGreggle 2016-11-07
News: Man getting malignant tumor removed seen bleeding during operation.
1 bitter_coffee 2016-11-07
Good, I got some cash reserves. Discount stocks plz
7 DominizZzle 2016-11-07
When people get on here and claim the NWO/Zionists/Illuminati run the world and that the election is already fixed do you really believe they only had one candidate and that Trump is some sort of messiah? It boggles my mind that one of the most fraudulent and arrogant men in the world has managed to convince large groups of people that he is a holy pariah, free of all political sin and that he's here to wash away the sins of the establishment and MAGA!
On the Hillary side I also find it interesting that people have so much faith in the FBI when they have been confirmed to have MURDERED MLK and all the dastardly deeds done in COINTELPRO including murdering Black Panthers.
5 THE_LORD_HERESY 2016-11-07
And lets not forget how they distributed drugs inside the black community.
3 DominizZzle 2016-11-07
Shit they still do
2 THE_LORD_HERESY 2016-11-07
Of course they still do. But let me give you some insight on something that will expose the contradictions on the other side. You know how you have all these Trump supporters or people against Hillary saying the DOJ is corrupt? How on one hand can they call them corrupt yet cite the FBI studies about blacks and crime? You would think that they would know that the stats they're citing are limited (because of the way the FBI collects and how they collect from) and that the BJS, which is a part of the DOJ, would have the most stats (and they do).
So the hypocrisy is uncanny with these people, I've never seen anything like it before in my life.
1 quackchomp 2016-11-07
Solely because he is so adamantly against Hillary
3 rotairtasiyrallih-- 2016-11-07
You people are full of shit.
Trump is also against:
Guess what was NOT EVEN MENTIONED before Trump brought it up this election? TPP.
Nor does anyone speak out against the globalist takeover of our country until Trump did.
You people act like all he's ever said is that Hillary is bad, when that's bullshit: he's gone directly against the globalist NWO agenda on multiple fronts.
1 dejeneration 2016-11-07
They're friends. That guy who wasn't even a Republican until he turned 65 harshes Paul Ryan harder than he's ever harshed Clinton. You'd think Republicans would wonder about that.
1 dejeneration 2016-11-07
To riff on the MLK and cointel stuff - there is absolutely SO MUCH happening in the news now, we don't know what's up and don't track anything for more than a half news cycle, missing real badness and corruption. One recent example, who murdered Darren Seals and why?
7 Plz_Pm_Me_Cute_Fish 2016-11-07
As a Canadian, only one thing to say to my fellow American's, when shit hits the fan, don't let them take your guns, please.
1 fj0912 2016-11-07
we're all gonna come over to your place
7 allyourmemes 2016-11-07
Let's do it guys. MAGA!
7 weigh_all_sides 2016-11-07
Why It's Better for Clinton to Win:
For a long time I thought Trump would be better. But hear me out why Clinton might actually be the better president. Trump is pulling an Obama on us. Once in he won't do what we hope, and then the "left" is going to rage and rage about social issues (sexism/race/lgbt) instead of government/war/corruption.
If Clinton wins then the "left" will magically think all the social issues are solved and have nothing else to focus on except war/corruption. Scary Trump will no longer be a reason to turn a blind eye to Clinton. So with Trump we will get a defusement of the population and only anger at trivial/divisive issues. With Clinton the anger will stay directed at the real problems. Because neither candidate will actually fix things, so I feel maybe we are being played with Trump as another Obama, to pacify the right this time. Trump would actually be a brilliant move for the globalists if this is true.
(Disclaimer: I would never vote for a neocon like Clinton nor encourage you to. Just reflecting on the benefits of the likely outcome.)
7 fuck_whatever_man 2016-11-07
Just voted in long Beach California. Every single person was given a provisional ballot. It was amazing and disgusting.
7 AmericanRiots 2016-11-07
I feel bad for all the babies and kids the Clintons are going to take their anger out on.
7 Broken_nuerons 2016-11-07
I love watching the newscasters stumble around trying to avoid saying that Trump has a lead, referring to him as the republican and then breaking in with Hillary Clinton has won...or has a considerable lead in....I don't give a toss who wins but it is so blatantly manipulated that it's disgusting. My only joy is watching them squirm as Trump slowly picks them off. It's like they are off script.
2 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
That's why for the first time in my life I'm watching FoxNews. They're the only station that doesn't consistently shill for Killary.
It's kinda fun to see them make democratic guests squirm.
7 cactusjack- 2016-11-07
inb4 the globalist elites throw a hissy fit and tank the economy on purpose because their chosen candidate didn't win
3 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Buy low, baby
7 vgza12 2016-11-07
I think a tie could be forced and then Clinton is in. It would make sense that theyd have a fallback plan in case things went downhill. I bet HRC has a few states in her back pocket to keep trump from getting the 270. Then it goes to a house vote which puts her in
9 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
The house is now controlled by Republicans. She wouldn't get the house vote.
5 vgza12 2016-11-07
Everyone hates Trump. Others can be bought
4 bigbootybigdoody 2016-11-07
No chance the house votes Clinton.
7 The_Pale_Horseman 2016-11-07
Clinton not speaking tonight... What a surprise.
7 The_Pale_Horseman 2016-11-07
Seriously.. How long does it take to count 3% of votes in PA?
5 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
Long enough to bribe someone.
7 Sabremesh 2016-11-07
CNN and BBC have confirmed she conceded over the phone.
1 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
What does conceded mean ?
5 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
She threw in the towel bro.
3 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
oh, Thanks
3 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
Np
1 johnviku 2016-11-07
hillary got a call from her handlers that said they were going with TRUMP.
7 Noreally123 2016-11-07
I think trump's kid is throwing up in his mouth on stage.
1 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
My thoughts exactly lol
Now I can't stop looking at him. He looks so nervous, poor dude
5 wiseclockcounter 2016-11-07
he looks tired. it's way past that kids bed time.
2 Noreally123 2016-11-07
he has the same hair as Donald. I wonder if that was planned.
6 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Oh shit Donald's kid did 9/11
6 Mrexreturns 2016-11-07
This could very likely be America's last election, and the first female president of america could be its last president.
Be prepared to leave the country if needed.
6 Bad_Harambe 2016-11-07
What do we do if the election is stolen? From the way Alex Jones is reporting on it, Trump will win, everybody will know he won and they still give it to Hillary. If thats the case....we will be in a civil war.
3 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
I am fairly confident that the clean FBI and CIA have been reorganizing for years in an effort to bring down the corruption they have all been witnessing for far too long...
I'm guessing... no matter what happens with the election, they are prepared to gobble up the dirtiest of the dirty in one big swoop.
1 Bad_Harambe 2016-11-07
The CIA installed the corruption...
2 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
Correct... but there has to be a large portion of the agent workforce that do not agree with what they have seen.
I predict this will go down like the RICO case in The Dark Knight... with Comey being the Harvey Dent... I believe in Comey. I've looked long and hard at him and his decisions. I think he is prolly fuckin' super-legit.
1 EyeCrush 2016-11-07
Insider sources seem to suggest this happening. The Clintons have royally pissed off the world
1 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
I don't have any insider sources... but I've spent a long time headed down the rabbit hole to reach this conclusion. I honestly fear for my safety if it doesn't come true.
2 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
I would war but there is no way I'm putting down my sugary drink.
6 kurtchella 2016-11-07
Rand Paul re-elected (kinda good IMO) Tim Scott re-elected Marco Rubio re-elected
6 andronicii 2016-11-07
I declare Clinton the winner, you heard it here first (via Michigan and Virginia and Iowa [wherein trickery is afoot]...) Bear in mind this was scripted all along.
1 Hollywood_WBS 2016-11-07
Welp
6 bobothedragon 2016-11-07
It's more important what happens after this right? If Hillary doesn't get prosecuted this is all for nothing.
I don't get what's going on right now. Trump is winning? But what if the provisional ballots go in Clinton's favour? Isn't that what happened to Bernie. I'm seriously stupid and would like to learn more
0 96d5f816b5b6447c8674 2016-11-07
That's not how it works.
7 bobothedragon 2016-11-07
That's why I said I'm stupid and would like to learn more, are you able to enlighten me?
1 96d5f816b5b6447c8674 2016-11-07
It's the electoral college, based on population in a state, determined during census periods.
Each states get a certain amount of votes in the electoral college. Because we use the electoral college, and not the popular vote, the election is won on a state by state basis. Win the big "swing" states and win the election.
6 Skybluvalleykid 2016-11-07
What a time to be alive, Pride really does come before the fall. You guys, this is crazy.
6 chriswilli42 2016-11-07
GOOD LORD HE ACTUALLY DID IT BOYS
1 Huggin-a-pineapple 2016-11-07
I am a pig in shit right now
6 nottheoretical 2016-11-07
I'm sorry, i think i'm from another dimension. WHO's winning? (holee shit)
6 Reaper137 2016-11-07
From the live reddit disscusion: People are stone faced and crying inside the Clinton HQ in Midtown Manhattan. -/u/HaydenSD
https://twitter.com/Matt_Maisel/status/796215289453117440
5 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Mmmmm those tears give me energy
6 andronicii 2016-11-07
Sam Wang via Princeton Election Consortium: "11:44pm: The business about 65%, 91%, 93%, 99% probability is a sideshow. Instead, the key point here is that the entire polling industry – public, campaign-associated, aggregators – ended up with data that missed tonight’s results by a very large margin. There is now the question of understanding how a mature industry could have gone so wrong. And of course, most of all, there is the shock of a likely Trump presidency."
http://election.princeton.edu/
Something isn't right (major understatement).
4 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
I was sitting down talking with my mother about this few months ago. I remember saying that: "In the event that Trump wins presidency and Hillary doesn't, HRC and every other Elite organization out there will have strings on him just as soon as he gets inaugurated, if not now. We were so busy worrying about Hillary's shit and exploiting her, we didn't stop and think maybe this what they want us to and this is how its going to be planned out." Not particularly worried if he wins, all race issues and ignorance aside, I'm more so worried on the time span from now to January and the FFs, riots, and eventual martial law that's going to come with it, if a nuke doesn't happen first.
6 jonm111 2016-11-07
is this happening?
2 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
not trying to sound like a zealot, but this was in the Bible, we just assumed it was Hillary.
5 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
People can't just say that. Provide or get rekt.
3 MarvelGrendal 2016-11-07
You're going to have to provide some information in this
1 jonm111 2016-11-07
I'm not gonna believe it until it actually happens
2 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
got one hour to go man.
Also, I remember some idiot on here had high votes on a post (probably a shill) talking about how Hillary was the supposed Whore of Babylon and all that shit. Hell, even the race wars are in the Bible as well and the BLM movement and all this bogus shit is just playing into the hands of a war we should've seen come since JFKs assassination
1 INTELDracula 2016-11-07
Evidence man.
6 andronicii 2016-11-07
They can still tie it seems 269/269.
2 bigbootybigdoody 2016-11-07
A tie is a Trump win.
6 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
There will soon be lots of construction jobs along our southern border.
2 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
I live in Texas and I seriously hope that jobs open up because he kicks the illegals out and im damn serious about that. You could not believe the amount of money these illegals make. I mean I am a law abiding us navy vet and I get 10hr (at least when I was working construction related jobs) and they got brand new trucks, 17 hr, 80 hours every week. I got a broke down truck that i wore the transmission out on because I had to use it for work. It pisses me off so bad. Also they are thieves and that shit aint cool either.
2 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
right on bro. I used to do construction. I live in Cali. Can't compete--construction is done in Cali.
3 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
I completely understand that, mexico aint too far from San Diego. It has to be the same.
6 aldoedy 2016-11-07
When they go low WE GO CRY!!
2 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
there are things far worse than death, that await us these upcoming months.
1 xMatt14x 2016-11-07
what do you suggest await us?
2 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
strange things that we wrote off as being too broad and silly to make sense.
2 INTELDracula 2016-11-07
Like?
6 throwaway199xx 2016-11-07
This black guy on CNN is too much. lmao.
2 Emerald_Triangle 2016-11-07
Is he Tokin' or Token
6 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
According to the Guardian, Trump just locked up PA.
It's over.
3 Mclovin1524 2016-11-07
It's all Ogre now. I'm sorry.
6 100ftninja 2016-11-07
Podesta just told everyone to leave the DNC rally.
7 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
That is total bullshit. I smell shenanigans. AP called it. Fox has all but called it. They're cooking the vote counts.
6 100ftninja 2016-11-07
Way too fishy. "We can wait a little longer!" Next statement: "Go home, we will update you tomorrow."
Edit: What the fuck am I watching right now. CALL IT
7 Broken_nuerons 2016-11-07
If she takes it tomorrow, definitely shenanigans.
3 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
Right now, he's got a 1.3% lead in PA (AP called it for him already). He's got 1.8% lead in MI. He's up by 4.1% in AZ, and 15% in AK. Usually, those numbers hold pretty steady when you're over 80% of the vote count, like all but AK are right now.
6 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
I'm still waiting for the curtain to drop...this is surreal. I honestly expected Hillary to win, even in a close one. But, wow!
6 bringabananatoaparty 2016-11-07
Here's my theory:
A shadowy figure is behind it all.
Someone hacked the DNC.
This someone could easily have sown seeds of discord within the Dems.
Someone provided Wikileaks with that data.
Someone got the FBI to announce the second email batch right before election, despite complete peer discouragement.
Someone is an evil mastermind who got Clinton to kill off Bernie's campaign, and the US to elect a potentially impeachable PotUS.
Mike Pence is basically living the plot of House of Cards.
2 GoldenHologram 2016-11-07
That someone is a time traveler
1 [deleted] 2016-11-07
that someone? Bob Marley.
6 ghettomotels 2016-11-07
Something new is definitely going on.
Trump did not look happy. A few possibilities.
A. Hillary made the elites mad. So they decided to give it to Trump. B. Trump made them mad. So they decided to give it to Trump. C. Possibly a third-term for Obama, so it won't matter. D. A bizarre combination of all of the above
3 johnviku 2016-11-07
My theory.
Then TRUMP got a call from the Rothchilds or other global elitist political donor insider oligarch.
They said, we have people in PA who will turn the election for us. We will tank the stock market.
And TRUMP had to cut a deal.
That's why the 1-2 hour delay in calling PA. TRUMP was deal-making with the global elites.
They would rather cut a deal with TRUMP than have hillary.
here's where the election thread noticed it
2 ghettomotels 2016-11-07
Looks like Clinton will "win" the popular vote, should be interesting. Could be the real Act 3.
5 beaconstrips 2016-11-07
300 million people, and these two muppets are best you guys could come up with... Something is fucky in the US
2 trumpetspieler 2016-11-07
We don't pick the people, we just fill in the bubble.
2 msoc 2016-11-07
We had Bernie didn't we! Not our fault that he wasn't allowed to win...
5 ddaniels02 2016-11-07
It's been a good run guys. See you on the other side.
/s not /s
5 bukvich 2016-11-07
What is there to say at this point? I haven't heard one issue discussed for thirty seconds on or in mainstream media except for the two primary candidates' top talk point:
HRC: DJT sucks
DJT: HRC sucks far more than I do
That's it. The most informed folks I know think we are in the decline phase of the empire and this is an election choice between Nero and Caligula.
I am not nearly so pessimistic and I prefer to view it as Bugs Bunny versus Daffy Duck. The theme.
A Daffy person myself. Which one is Daffy you ask? Two words: secret ballot.
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5 [deleted] 2016-11-07
Just saw a "Trump gets booed at his polling station" story. Probably planted by Clinton's campaign. I wouldn't put it past them, given that they sent people to his rallies to incite violence.
1 epic_soundtracks 2016-11-07
He lives in New York City. What did you expect?
5 [deleted] 2016-11-07
Good point, but the amount of fuckery the Clinton campain, DNC, and MSM have pulled this election cycle just causes me to automatically ignore anything they say as false and jump straight to a "it was planned/rigged" mindset. I can't help it. The crock of shit they have stewed up has just completely turned me off of what they have to say, and I am definitely not the only one.
3 epic_soundtracks 2016-11-07
Agree on all points
5 matthewfoos15 2016-11-07
Oh this is too good lol
We're all worried about Hillary stealing this thing, and Trumps giving her a run for her money.
What if that was the plan all along!!
5 andronicii 2016-11-07
A razor thin defeat was promised to Trump to make his "services" worth his while, he becomes an even bigger celebrity as a result of his razor thin loss: more money more business. He comes out "bigly" despite his loss.
2 andronicii 2016-11-07
Add Nevada to the Clinton pile.
5 WaitTilUSeeMyDick 2016-11-07
Holy shit. I may actually end up owing people pizza.
9 citricacidx 2016-11-07
There's a little place I've heard of recently that seems to be popular
5 TBomberman 2016-11-07
Congratulations guys, 95% chance of Trump winning presidency at this point: http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president
Thank you Wikileaks and Assange.
1 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
This is an important enough point that I wanted to make a post about it.
It's very possible that Wikileaks swung the WHOLE FUCKING ELECTION with how close it is.
I know a lot of people who aren't "tinfoil hatters" who woke up big-time thanks to the email scandals and Wikileaks
5 quackchomp 2016-11-07
I can't believe this. Hillary, you made this happen. If it weren't trump about to win, I'd shout in happiness that this cheater lost. But god damnit she could have just ruined our country for this chase to be president at any cost. YOU DID THIS TO US. YOU HILLARY
1 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
what if that was her play all along? what if she was the lesser of the two evils?
6 Emerald_Triangle 2016-11-07
not buying it
5 Mclovin1524 2016-11-07
Holy Shit. Trump just took Pennsylvania. 6 votes left for republican victory.
2 dejeneration 2016-11-07
s/Republican/Trump. Trump isn't a Republican or a Conservative.
1 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
Uh, if FoxNews' numbers are correct, he has now WON.
5 Mclovin1524 2016-11-07
That fucking Bitch and the Corrupt DNC. i hope this bites them in the ass hard enough for them to take a valuable lesson from this. Bernie would have annihilated trump.
5 citricacidx 2016-11-07
Google has Trump at 264 now.
5 leapyquacky 2016-11-07
lol Podesta with the pep rally speech, what a despicable sack of shit.
5 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
Vans losing his grip. Omg its funny
5 throwaway199xx 2016-11-07
This black guy is really pissing me off on CNN. His tears are making me happy. He's so butt hurt.
5 _sophistikatied 2016-11-07
I'm getting so nervous waiting for these states to be called. Podesta's ugly face didn't help much. Are the democrats rushing to rig those votes??
5 100ftninja 2016-11-07
NBC Analyst says NBC "Probably won't be making a call tonight on PA." MSM is scared.
4 biomike14 2016-11-07
fucking bullshit
5 Badger_Storm 2016-11-07
Hey guys, Trump won.
5 well-jel 2016-11-07
Can anyone elaborate on how this could've possibly been tptb's plan all along? I really thought it was Hillary for sure.
5 ohcumgache 2016-11-07
I was certain that TBPB will puch HRC through with North Korea style 160% votes. Either Trump is for real and they couldn't do anything about it (which explains HRC not showing up to give a speech at her HQ - she wasn't prepared for that), or the rabbit hole is way deeper than we think.
5 OneTwoWee000 2016-11-07
I think rigging 50 contests simultaneously in one evening was a tall order. They focused on strategic states but the gap between HRC and Trump was larger margin than they could cover reasonably.
I think there was a last minute grab contemplated for PA, because at 2:30ish the AP amended the number of precincts reports from 98% to 89%. It was odd as fuck and talking heads were talking about absentee ballots possibly tipping the results towards Clinton. A few minutes later they walked it back and definitively confirmed Trump won the state.
5 ohcumgache 2016-11-07
Yeah I've heard of the PA shmuckery. Also explains why the news outlets didn't call it until the last minute, even when it was way past the point of no return. And then had absolutely nothing to say other than "he won, I don't believe it."
6 ohcumgache 2016-11-07
Also, Podesta's "speech" at HRC's HQ was nothing short of bizarre. "We're proud of her, go home and sleep now."
3 johnviku 2016-11-07
Yes that was bizzaro world. He won PA, but we're not calling it. SOMETHING was up. They hadn't gotten the signal.
EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5c2v94/hypothesis_mainstream_media_withheld_the_election/
1 OneTwoWee000 2016-11-07
YEP! It was hard to watch. I kept waiting for some shenanigans of "found votes" or legal battles from HRC's lawyers to contest and this dragging in for weeks.
1 johnviku 2016-11-07
someone started a thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5c2v94/hypothesis_mainstream_media_withheld_the_election/
2 johnviku 2016-11-07
Yes. And did you notice after the Dow Jones being down 800, suddenly it was only down 300?
2 OneTwoWee000 2016-11-07
I did! They kept fearmongering that the stock market was going to crash because Trump won. It's just like Brexit all over again, the U.K. economy bounced back rather quickly unlike they predicted.
2 johnviku 2016-11-07
Well Brexit was over weeks. This was minutes.
1 GoAheadAndH8Me 2016-11-07
It's simple really, they never had to rig a national election. There was never anything at stake for the biggest elites, anyone unfriendly to them was always filtered out before. And they couldn't get anything votes couldn't beat ready in time when the media tricks didn't work.
3 Apexk9 2016-11-07
Build patriotism for the next war.
5 TheGreatestUsername1 2016-11-07
Question: Will Hilary actually be investigated? I read that Obama is asking Trump to visit the White House this upcoming Thursday. Will they discuss her situation?
9 cactusjack- 2016-11-07
I hope he goes and tells Barack to fuck off
5 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Obama is now more irrelevant than he ever has been
2 TheGreatestUsername1 2016-11-07
Agreed! Maybe CTR will fuck off too!
5 ferjohnm 2016-11-07
Although I feel relieved that Trump won the election instead of Hillary, I wouldn't be suprised if TPTB has something in store to enrage the already pissed off masses all over the country into civil unrest. I have a feeling that the global elites and the mainstream media will blame upcoming false flags events and financial turmoil on Donald Trump. It's going to be an interesting 4 years.
1 Johnsonjay63 2016-11-07
Agreed.... If I just spent a large sum of money (Billions) and realized those promises won't be met because my horse slipped in the mud (not happy).
It just takes a few people to start a march to protest your opinion and once its big enough, you add some violence for added chaos with a riot shortly to follow.
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4 elnegroik 2016-11-07
If nothing else I'm glad a lot of people, who previously dismissed the corruption as mere conspiracy, have had their eyes opened to exactly how corrupt media, government and business interests are. In Hillary, we have the perfect node to link up all the interlinking pieces. And it's for that and that alone that I thank her. I hope she wins... that's the only way she'll be held to account. Think about it - Hillary Clinton. President of America. Getting grilled in congress about the CF. You have ambitious republicans with careers to launch, as well as older heads with scores to settle. Not to mention Bernie. I need one of you guys to tell me I'm not just being wilfully naive when I say that the real reckoning will come once she's won. Just lay it on me .. I can take it.
5 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
She'll be President of the United States. Just look at what she was able elude just being the wife of a former President who himself was impeached and you tell me she won't get away with EVERYTHING. If Hillary wins, she wins. At this point I'm fairly certain she only wants the presidency so she can pardon herself.
4 snakeaway 2016-11-07
Gary Johnson for me.
4 IsayLittleBuddy 2016-11-07
My two cents: we're fucked
4 mijj 2016-11-07
the world is agog as it waits for the Voting Machines' decision.
1 EyeCrush 2016-11-07
Yeah. Hillary is going to prison, along with her lackeys.
-1 EyeCrush 2016-11-07
Doesn't matter, Hillary is still going to prison.
4 Adjudikated 2016-11-07
Side note: wtf reddit - took me an hour going through the mobile app and couldn't find a single /r/conspiracy post. It's been like this two days now....
4 tigresuaz 2016-11-07
So stupid question here ,,,what is it that they're afraid of what they can't control? if everything is rigged why does it matter
4 andronicii 2016-11-07
It's definitely going to be a razor thin win for Hillary, but don't worry guys, she'll pull through at the end!
5 Vcastillo115 2016-11-07
Ehhh maybe just me but i dont think too many people on this sub will be thrilled about that.
1 AmericanRiots 2016-11-07
I think Hillary wins by a million... its what all the accidentally released numbers that came up seemed to point to.
4 callmebaiken 2016-11-07
What if they're going to let Trump win because they have Mike Pence waiting in the wings. Terrible thought, I know, but occurred to me
4 Birdie_Jim81 2016-11-07
If Trump pulls this out I might have a little faith in our system still
5 matthewfoos15 2016-11-07
If trump wins, this thread is going to lose it's shit.
We've been shitting on hillary for weeks, saying how it was a garuntee, how the elite would never let it happen. If this goes down, I literally may have hope
2 Birdie_Jim81 2016-11-07
Seriously I'm in awe right now. 216 to 202 tho
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1 gootecks 2016-11-07
same here
3 dyingiseasy 2016-11-07
still a long way to go to fix the system...
1 Birdie_Jim81 2016-11-07
Very true, I'm holding my breath hoping that America is a bit smarter to pick trump than hilary. Don't get me wrong I wasn't entirely enthusiastic about voting for trump... but there was no way in hell I was voting for Hillary or throwing my vote to a guy who praises hillary and Obama and supports tpp
4 rareiamgery 2016-11-07
It looks like the MSM correspondence are about to cry, digging for counties that Clinton needs to win. The Dow futures are down 700 points, this is an interesting night. Is Trump really gonna win?
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1 griph00k 2016-11-07
they are the same. the clintons were at trumps wedding
1 warlockMR335 2016-11-07
Not arguing that they're much different, but the wedding thing means very little.
People attend weddings of those they know professionally or who run in the same circles all the time. Weddings are one of those "polite" events where you attend to network and make an appearance even if you have no particular attachment to the bride/groom. You go to be seen, especially true of weddings of the rich and powerful.
1 griph00k 2016-11-07
I dont think its very complicated, the 1% of people are simply interested in preserving as much of their money as they can, or find ways to make money. They dont care about wars, its all about tax loopholes and investment laws
1 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
If he wins, it's because either A: the system isn't rigged in the way we thought it was, or B: they realized that he would do more to cause chaos in the streets than she would.
4 ClarkKentState 2016-11-07
Trump is the false flag?
6 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
Trump is the scapegoat, and even he doesn't know it. I think some of us knew it, but it got passed off as a really shitty conspiracy theory. That being said, why isn't anyone talking about this meeting in Alaska? LOOL.
4 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
What is with the Trump And Hitler Comparisons that people are Coming up with?
3 ChuckBronsoncomedy 2016-11-07
Pretty much, when any politician shows a lot of emotion they draw Hitler comparisons *grammar
4 t0_0l 2016-11-07
NY times just called PA for Trump.
4 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
honestly i wouldnt even be shocked if clinton still wins
4 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
So here is a question, who will be in trumps cabinet? Any shaddy NWO types?
4 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
This is so sketchy holy fuck
4 Sabremesh 2016-11-07
Fuckery afoot in Pennsylvania? "Votes counted" has gone from 99% to 89%.
5 Unique_Username73 2016-11-07
AP still says 99 for me.
They have also called the election
4 Sabremesh 2016-11-07
BBC tv election coverage is making quite a lot of this anomaly. It dropped dropped from 99% to 89% and back to 99%.
1 Unique_Username73 2016-11-07
Interesting, ill have to do some digging
2 Sabremesh 2016-11-07
BBC tv has confirmed that Clinton has conceded to Trump over the phone.
2 johnviku 2016-11-07
it was NYT that suddenly, inexplicably, when down to 89%.
I think it was a show of force from elites to TRUMP. See what we can do?
2 Sabremesh 2016-11-07
BBC live election tv show had this about PA. They actually discussed that this sudden drop didn't make sense.
1 biomike14 2016-11-07
I thought I Mandela'd there for a sec...
4 Sabremesh 2016-11-07
The Guardian has just called it for Trump - currently on 276.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk
4 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
She conceded!!!!!!
4 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Trump showing some real emotion! I like that
3 [deleted] 2016-11-07
We have until January 21, inauguration day. Plenty of stuff can happen. It's happened before.
3 Tymerc 2016-11-07
If this country does end up going to shit, whose side do you think the army will take? I would really hate to see that our army is full of thugs waiting to beat up and bully the very same people they are suppose to be protecting.
And if you're in the army or anything please do not take offense. I am just trying to think of this with an open mind.
4 wizvrdhd 2016-11-07
I think some may be completely desensitized/dehumanized, but the vast majority are people like you and I, with family's and friends and stories.
3 Yodamaster 2016-11-07
This has to be a plot to decrease voter apathy or something.
3 Tunderbar1 2016-11-07
Likely results, if Hillary's side can't rig the vote enough to win, is Trump in the WH, Republicans in majority in the Senate and in Congress, and their choice of appointment for the SCOTUS.
3 andronicii 2016-11-07
Wikileaks has amply demonstrated oligarchy rules; the Democratic party has become the preferred choice of said oligarchy (Republicans are dragged down by retrograde baggage in comparison). The Democratic party through the magic of predictive analytics not only anticipated, but created the main strategic geography of this election, right down to the ex-nihilo “Pied Piper” persona of Donald Trump (again per Wikileaks’ revelations). The purpose, besides winning of course, is twofold, use the creation of the strategic geography to control, indeed “drive” the election to the desired outcome; to present said strategic geography as alibi in the case of an even more controlled and technically pre-determined outcome–in which case the aforesaid alibi of the magic of predictive analytics serves to mask the outright falsity of the election results.
3 Comar2557 2016-11-07
Literally scared for the coming years. At the same time I have this perverse curiosity to see what happens
3 humpi 2016-11-07
I cant watch the TV here... such tools i feel phydically sick when they open their mouths...
3 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
I think FoxNews might go off the air for an hour or so tonight they been hinting at on the air... also mentioned to tune into local channels.
3 andronicii 2016-11-07
They'll make it really close, but with Hillary clearly winning, so the "deplorables" don't feel so bad.
1 Badger_Storm 2016-11-07
Well, Trump won...
3 Reaper137 2016-11-07
they're claiming rigged voting machines as user error
3 opdjasin 2016-11-07
Ok shit question. Will World War 3 with Russia happen in near future if Hillary wins today?
2 LA25A 2016-11-07
I think it will but i hope not
2 LaraDark 2016-11-07
World war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones
1 MsLotusLane 2016-11-07
Perhaps, but probably not on either country's own soil. I think the US will get more aggressive in every country Russia is meddling with, and the number of those countries will go up. Call it a luke-warm war.
3 JBSLB 2016-11-07
florida has 99% but its still too early with a 2% lead? wtf?
2 quackchomp 2016-11-07
IN general, Florida's results usually get recounted due to the history of elections there. Florida is usually called the next day
3 Adam87 2016-11-07
You know, maybe Trump can shake things up and make it interesting. I can't believe he is leading right now. I thought Hilary would have a red carpet laid out to the White House but this is kinda proof that the votes are not rigged all the time. How could Trump be a part of the plan? So much potential for fuckery.
What about his business? Is it not a conflict of interest to have your own companies and be president?
5 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Is it not a conflict of interest to be a treasonous felon and still somehow be allowed to run?
I believe his businesses would be run by a 3rd party if he wins.
3 Reaper137 2016-11-07
https://twitter.com/tamarakeithNPR/status/796195360930725889
I bet Hillary is about to pull ahead soon
3 Ettersburgcutoff 2016-11-07
I'm laughing my ass off, this is funny.
3 andronicii 2016-11-07
Establishment Republicans continue to dominate House, retain control of Senate. Nothing changes, Clinton wins, but will govern essentially as another establishment fiscal Republican.
3 derfduh 2016-11-07
There's a chance Republicans could win all 3 tonight. Presidency, Houuse and Senate. Does that speak towards the shift in change in voting in the USA? We may have not won the war, but in future years we could win!
3 kurtchella 2016-11-07
Get ready for the accusations of rigging
EV 11:33 EST
3 the_strat 2016-11-07
Wait until you hear how many Russians voted.
3 spays_marine 2016-11-07
Fox website says 254 to 209 for Trump now?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2016/presidential-election-headquarters
3 andronicii 2016-11-07
Arizona might still go to Clinton.
1 Birdie_Jim81 2016-11-07
Even if it does, Minnesota and Michigan are going red. I'm an az resident and can't believe we are going blue.
Edit: I don't give a shit about colors I care about us and our progress. Trump may be the last revolt before the eminent collapse.. or he could be the play we all didn't see coming.
3 derfduh 2016-11-07
Rachel Maddow blinks too much
3 SocraticMethHead 2016-11-07
It's still rigged, right guys? Just kidding, our side won!
5 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
are you sure that "our side" wasn't the rigged side all along? isn't population control about imbuing the people with a false sense of choice and freedom to continue to implement control? lool.
5 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
There's no doubt in my mind that Trump is an easily, corrupt malleable politician for the bankers and the corporatists. He might even be into that occult voodoo shit like Hilary, who knows.
1 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
Guarantee he is
1 jonm111 2016-11-07
aaaah it all makes sense now, why didn't I think of that.
3 OmgKidGetAJob 2016-11-07
Can somebody help me out?
My reddit feed is normally full of /r/ DNCLeaks, Wikileaks, conspiracy, and anarchism. Not a single post from those subs is popping up on my feed now, even for 500 posts down.
7 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
that's because we were wrong, and in the eve of silence, trepidation and paranoia is coming.
2 OmgKidGetAJob 2016-11-07
Dang straight. We were wrong, and this is crazy.
Inb4 "I knew Trump would win, he was her puppet all along"
3 qwertyuiop6382 2016-11-07
OMG trump is winning!!!
3 jonnyredshorts 2016-11-07
Wtf? This is so over.
3 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
John podesta coming to make a statement...confession? Lol
3 TheRightToBearArms 2016-11-07
He told everyone to go home after getting em all worked up. Looking like the kid fucker he is
3 slothbear 2016-11-07
If Clinton doesn't concede and Trump disappears overnight, does that mean she still wins?
1 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
y'all bets get off my boy Donald yo, he go missing, we all go missing.
3 Mclovin1524 2016-11-07
TRUMP WINS!! FUCK YEH!
3 freakydeakykiki 2016-11-07
Has Hillary made a statement yet or is she still under heavy sedation?
7 d-law 2016-11-07
They're trying to come up with enough $$$ to match her usual speaking fees.
1 [deleted] 2016-11-07
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2 callmebaiken 2016-11-07
I see a Hillary Presidency as an exercise in cautious incrementalism on the part of the NWO. They know they dodged a bullet. People are waking up too fast. They've been too aggressive this millennium. I see them slowing down and letting things cool down.
2 Notashillll 2016-11-07
Great timing on this sticky. The wrong way to do it would have been to post this a month ago and deleted everything election related from the sub. Good job Mods!
2 bartikus 2016-11-07
A few questions: How does a presidential pardon work? Can Obama pardon Hillary if she loses (not likely, just entertain the idea), in order to try and cover his own ass because he is, at the very least, implicated in the server scandal? Or can the president only pardon people if they have charges against them?
If Hillary does win, I don't think Obama will pardon her at all because she'll be able to pardon herself once she's in and pardoning her would only make him look suspicious.
Is it possible at all that the rank and file of the FBI know this and are planning on letting her steal the election so that they can have evidence of intent and then also execution, and then timing her arrest for the moment of transition of power, so that Obama can't pardon anyone, and she won't have had any time to pardon herself?
These are just my random, probably too hopeful thoughts this morning.
1 madafaku 2016-11-07
I don't think you could get away with pardoning yourself. And federal pardons can't be given in cases of impeachment.
2 christophturov 2016-11-07
What do y'all think about this?
2 DronePuppet 2016-11-07
Jesse James speaks the truth America needs to hear!
Jesse James Reveals Why He Was The First To Endorse Trump
2 [deleted] 2016-11-07
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5btik8/the_election_is_being_used_to_distract_you_from/
This election is one big distraction. Everyone is focused on it. Guess what happens when you aren't looking. Atrocity. There will be no news of the DAPL protest today. They don't want you to hear it. But it will be a great time and excuse for them to take out people who oppose them through death or prison. Just wait. If and when they are heard from again, it will have gotten much worse.
2 urassicPark 2016-11-07
Is there a tool online that i can use to easily search candidates and their donors/contributors?
2 noahblanky 2016-11-07
OpenSecrets.org
1 urassicPark 2016-11-07
Yea I saw that site, but wasn't as comprehensive as I thought it would be. Maybe I was missing something.
2 [deleted] 2016-11-07
A lot of the rhetoric in this thread nails how I feel about this election. It's a very dark day in American history today.
Also, people are idiots - as a species, I mean. We're doomed, boys & girls. It's hopeless.
I, for one, am ready for the incoming draft.
prediction: Hillary wins by a small %
3 EyeCrush 2016-11-07
Doesn't matter if she wins; she's pissed off the world. The wikileaks weren't just released in the US.
2 ImNotYeezus 2016-11-07
I have a bad feeling about tonight...
6 todo1740 2016-11-07
I realized yesterday that there is NO way they let Trump win. There is fraud all over right now. He needs a landslide just to win by .1%
I put $1300 on HRC last night so that I can take my winnings and invest it in trying to get a re-vote or re-count. I pray to God I lose this bet tonight though. I will be so fucking happy.
1 livealivelive 2016-11-07
You did that? I'm sorry.
1 DefrancoAce222 2016-11-07
what odds did you get it at? -600 currently
1 Tattooedvixen 2016-11-07
Me too. ...
2 andronicii 2016-11-07
Virginia and Michigan are looking "red," but Hillary will take them in the end, her path to victory goes through there.
3 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Good call. She just took Virginia.
1 quackchomp 2016-11-07
looks like the blue counties in virginia are coming in now, shes now ahead by a little
2 DefrancoAce222 2016-11-07
Can someone explain to me how Hillary takes Colorado with 48% of the vote but only 56% of the precincts reported?
5 heres_one_for_ya 2016-11-07
Because third party?
2 andronicii 2016-11-07
Read elsewhere: "Ironically, Iowa is overperforming the polling and benchmarks, though it’s early. If we lose Wisconsin, hold Michigan, but hold Iowa, Clinton wins 275-263. Wouldn’t it be something if Iowa emerged from the polling graveyard to save the Republic?"
IOWA WILL CLINCH IT FOR CLINTON!
3 Birdie_Jim81 2016-11-07
Trump is winning in Wisconsin tho which I'm very surprised.. there's only like 3 precincts left there
2 andronicii 2016-11-07
Michigan is being called for Clinton.
2 zizi989 2016-11-07
Why did Pennsylvania (and many other states) swing to Trump at 10pm? There has to be a practical explanation. What is going on?
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-night-forecast-2016/
1 fuck_whatever_man 2016-11-07
Different areas report in at different times. Pennsylvania has areas that are very liberal and areas that are very conservative.
2 dejeneration 2016-11-07
We. Are. So. Fucked.
Hold on to your butts, comrades. Don't be surprised when you're first against the wall even and especially if you supported him.
2 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Iowa and Wisconsin just went for Trump. 238-209 Trump leading at the moment.
http://imgur.com/EvzLs2j
http://imgur.com/P2PtJgI
1 andronicii 2016-11-07
That is inaccurate, give news source link.
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Given the fact that CNN, NBC, and ABC were all tied to the Clinton campaign, I'm inclined to believe FoxNews.
Not to mention the New York Times link saying there is a 95% Trump wins.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2016/presidential-election-headquarters
2 thatguyad 2016-11-07
So the elite wants Trump in after all?
4 WolfgangDS 2016-11-07
Like hell they do.
2 to55r 2016-11-07
Sure, he'll give them tax breaks.
2 andronicii 2016-11-07
Wisconsin and Iowa will decide the election for Clinton.
3 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Dude, Wisconsin and Iowa went to Trump. Multiple places reporting it.
3 Huggin-a-pineapple 2016-11-07
I hope he takes Michigan!!!
1 andronicii 2016-11-07
OK.
2 leapyquacky 2016-11-07
What is going on? I don't know what to believe anymore.
3 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
My guess is, we got to wrapped up in Hillary's bullshit to see the actual threat. Either way, whatever happens next, there will be a war to end all wars. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.
2 andywarhaul 2016-11-07
Plot twist, wikileaks destroys trump with leaks they never talked about thinking they were gonna have clinton to deal with
7 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
I assume you're joking, but Assange actually came out and said they don't have anything on him
2 action_turtle 2016-11-07
Would be an interesting 4 years of Trump wins. I'm from the UK, so with us leaving the EU and Trump being in power over in the US, it will make for chaos. In an odd way (if trump wins), I think it shows that the people are slowly starting to turn away from doing what we are told. Politics aside, the fact that million will go out and vote for things to be different (actual difference, completely unthinkable) gives me a small bit of hope for the planet. Perhaps we are not nations of drones?
2 bugsbunnystew 2016-11-07
he seem good to me - Matthews on Podesta after reading Wikileaks.
wtf
2 bingescaper 2016-11-07
A great satisfaction to see Hillary lose. Democracy and peace won. You might not like it, but the excercise of democracy implies that things might turn out in a way you don't expect. Instead of blurting out opinions, reflect, study and try to comprehend the Zeitgeist of happenings.
2 sailone 2016-11-07
i just reviewed the US map by region and Trump majority. about 90 pc of the US voted for Trump. The Hillary voters are DC, by large majority, Maryland, LA and SF, Seattle...and Hispanic areas in Texas, Az, Ca... So some opinion. DC is the core of corruption in the US, and radiates out, eg MD. the LGBT and Hispanic vote accounts for the West coast Hillary vote. Maine and Michigan? dk.
1 jakemasterj 2016-11-07
Civil, like the war that's coming?
1 MonsignorFrollo 2016-11-07
I think Gary Johnson will win enough make some difference.
Unfortunately, even though Hillary will lose the popular vote, I believe she will worm her way into office via electoral college chicanery.
1 thatkrabby 2016-11-07
Why should I skip this election? Serious question!
1 dyingiseasy 2016-11-07
vote local. But you may still find dumb or corrupt tards running for local elections
1 the_banyan 2016-11-07
Facts. I know it was smeared as such but as I hear it, the gal who said she got screwed had previously made commercials for it saying how great it was...
1 outbackdude 2016-11-07
Not from US...
What's the time frame here... public election results... electoral college results... inauguration...
1 elnegroik 2016-11-07
Doh!
1 smitteh 2016-11-07
What worries me is all these countries that adhere to Sharia law and their reactions to the USA's new woman leader...
1 IndependantTeaParty 2016-11-07
To be honest I don't believe the president really matters all that much The federal bank owns us Our laws are not of our own making
At this point they are laughing at us seeing how shitty of options they can give us before we start to question why these are the candidates we have
8 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
Since JFK the CIA runs everything.
1 Cynako 2016-11-07
Obvious bias when you click on the little trump/hilary character on the guardian's page to folllow the results
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/nov/08/us-election-2016-results-live-clinton-trump?view=map&type=presidential
1 inbetweentime 2016-11-07
What's a good site on which to watch results come in?
2 mwilkens 2016-11-07
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president/florida
1 andronicii 2016-11-07
It's looking like Iowa and Wisconsin might be decisive. A cliffhangar decided in Wisconsin pro Clinton.
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Trump took Wisconsin and Iowa per FoxNews.
1 kurtchella 2016-11-07
EV 11:36 EST
1 derfduh 2016-11-07
There is a shift and a change, I would love to expand and explain but I drank too much to care to want to. Someone else please do it for me!
1 andronicii 2016-11-07
Tons of people are saying this election was rigged on DailyKos, it sounds identical to this sub: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/8/1593636/-Election-night-2016-Finally-Liveblog-25#comments
3 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
all the elections are rigged. trump wins, he's winning because he's a scapegoat, and what happens after tonight till January 21st, will prove whether or not the Elites have the influence we really think they do.
Meanwhile...
So, there's Nazis and Monoliths in Antarctica?
1 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
kerry?
1 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
yeah, that dude. I remember reading something about it over the summer on my own findings, but to actually see it on the subreddit is strange, to me, i suppose.
1 Birdie_Jim81 2016-11-07
Can someone direct me to a link or explain the whole cerebral palsy kid? I know he got kicked out of the rally but it seems to me trump didn't even know he was disabled and went off for the narrative about the paid shills at trump rallies
1 phallaciouslycorrect 2016-11-07
r/uh_burndown?
1 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
Fox and Google just called it for Trump.
1 AemonTheDragonite 2016-11-07
Google has called it for Trump.
1 Noreally123 2016-11-07
He's going to bust unions, reverse Medicaid expansion and cut ss. If you care about those things, beware.
1 jonm111 2016-11-07
We are in for a change.
1 Amadeus_IOM 2016-11-07
+++Breaking News+++ US Coast Guard reports people swimming from Florida to Cuba for the first time ever+++ Boat prices in Miami skyrocketing+++Spanish language class bookings up 900%+++
1 demalo 2016-11-07
Oh so that's why the sanctions with Cuba were lifted.
1 johnviku 2016-11-07
The self-deportation is starting?
1 v5ive 2016-11-07
Can the nutjobs here admit that maybe there isnt an giant conspiracy to elect clinton now?
21 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
You clearly haven't been paying attention.
There was a giant conspiracy to elect the queen bitch. She somehow still lost.
-4 KitsuneBlack 2016-11-07
The narrative usually implies that there is a secret behemoth pulling the strings behind the curtains and that regardless of vote or hope their puppet will always win, today that narrative was dismantled. Many times did I hear that Hillary was fixed to win, drummed in my ear, bought and paid for etc. Bottom line, there is no boogeyman fixing the vote, people are just either smart or stupid. Most of the times stupid (dnc), but so is human nature. Let's see how this plays out.
7 IusedtogetitinOhio 2016-11-07
The only reason she didnt win is because we caught all the vote manipulation and machine "malfunctions" during the election process. She needed waayy more than the homeless and deceased votes, and those were due to come from the corrupt machines. Look at the states they held off on calling forver last night - AZ, MI, PA, WI - all of these states had massive machine malfunctions and ballots thrown out. The race was ridiculously close, she lost by 1-2% in these locations and those are the votes they had to rig to win. You cant rig an election and win by +5-9 pts in battle grounds, its too "coincidental". Thats also why they were refusing to call it for trump, they literally recounted PA because they couldnt believe we out voted their "fix". No damn way it took an east coast state til 2:45am to count votes and release the electoral winner. This race was over when she lost FL and OH. At the end they were just clinging for a sweep in hopes of a 269 tie.
4 johnviku 2016-11-07
I asked this also in here and here
What do you make of
Were they planning to / trying to rig PA for hillary?
here's where the election thread noticed it
4 IusedtogetitinOhio 2016-11-07
They definitely were trying to fix the election and I saw all the same fluctuations of vote% and DOW#'s across Fox/CBS/NBC/PBS. When they showed the counties of PA that were "undecided" I actually knew of 3 that are legitimately redder than Texas. Surprisingly, or not, all 3 of these counties are major union/industrial areas for blue collar crowd. Fix the election or we fuck your retirement type fears.
Too close to call my fucking ass. Every one of those news stations knew the fix was in, they were all holding off because they didnt want to be the first to go against the queens wishes.
Drain the fucking swamp.
2 flyingcaveman 2016-11-07
All kinds of funny business was going on. Trump was ahead in Virgina and Hillary surged ahead 6% in the last 8% reporting. NH counts were just not coming, leaving a path open for hillary. Maybe they were waiting for everybody to go to sleep and find some more votes that were 'missed'. Counties all over the us map were holding out reporting, playing a wait and see game trying to figure out how many ballots they needed. CA was called for Hillary 1 minute after the polls closed giving Hillary an artificial momentum.
There was so much bullshit! the media just stalling waiting for a miracle. while the vote counters tried to get it close enough to go for a recount.
2 LadyBeyondTheWall 2016-11-07
I'm glad everyone else noticed the PA stuff and I wasn't just seeing things.
Around 1:45-2 am eastern, I was watching the fox stream in bed. At that point I was just waiting for them to call PA and NYT had Trump at >95% to win.
I knew he was going to win but I was just trying to stay awake until it was official. Then Podesta went in front of the Clinton supporters telling everyone they're not doing anything until all the votes were counted and CNN kept acting like there was still some kind of chance Hillary would win, so I didn't want to miss it somehow if it did happen.
At about 2 am, I saw that PA was 98% and fox said they didn't want to call it yet, but some other websites and stuff had already called it for Trump. I figured I'd find out any second now since they only had 2% to go.
5 or 10 minutes later, fox shows the PA graphic and somehow it said 68%? I was absolutely confused and kept trying to think how the fuck I saw it so wrong just 10 minutes earlier. I checked NYT and somehow his percentage fell all the way down to like 70 something.. so I said fuck it at around 2:15, really confused and wondering if there was some sort of fuckery afoot or if I was just too tired to read properly.
So I went to sleep. I wake up later and see that my mom had texted me at 2:45 am from work saying they called it for Trump. About 20 mins after I said fuck it and went to sleep because PA had somehow dropped 20-30% in counts like they just lost votes somehow.
The whole thing was bizarre and I'm glad other people were noticing things got weird.
3 Nutricidal 2016-11-07
Agree. There's been a espionage war going on for awhile now. I strongly suspected our guys were in place. Guys with guns. I hope we get the real story some day.
5 IusedtogetitinOhio 2016-11-07
I was appalled when Molesta Podesta came out and said go home we will figure this out in the morning. HAHAHAHA NOPE, Im going to hear my President announced tonight. None of this recount shit before the first count is official.
-1 KitsuneBlack 2016-11-07
So what you are saying is that there is indeed a "man" behind the scenes but he's so incompetent he loses a rigged race? You understand how moronic you have to be to lose a rigged race? So the "man" with all its chemtrails, power, influence, and unlimited wealth couldn't control a couple voting machines? They look pretty stupid and harmless from where I'm standing. There is a real "man" in Myanmar for instance, they are called the junta, way less influent or resourceful but they win every year.
6 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
But there was, it just didn't work. Rigging an election is hard but it can be done. If the electoral and popular vote were closer, you'd bet they would of rigged it.
-1 Not_Reliable 2016-11-07
she won the popular vote
2 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
Yeah, that's true. I don't care, they both are puppets.
1 KitsuneBlack 2016-11-07
Good luck with that, the pattern is that when something happens that breaks that conspiracy narrative (like Hillary losing) there is a paradigm shift that corrects itself to agree that whatever happened did so to further the "illuminati" agenda, next up you'll see that somehow they managed to get to trump too, and the cycle continues. The tinfoil runs deep
edit:spelling
1 flyingcaveman 2016-11-07
No. Trump won in a landslide and the media knows it. It was such a blow out they would have been an investigation if she did win. (or if they were to show trump winning in a landslide, rioting may have been worse) This is the powers that be trying to maintain control so they can steal it again at another opportunity. The illusion that is 'close' is so that all the methods of cheating can stay in place.
0 v5ive 2016-11-07
Come on dude
2 flyingcaveman 2016-11-07
Isn't this what you asked for? This is /r/conspiracy.
1 candidlol 2016-11-07
i mean people got the clinton loss so many were pushing for, but the question now is at what cost and why. the very nature of elections in the US have so many people believeing that its all a show and voting is rigged anways so what is trumps purpose in this system? hes clearly not the outsider people want to imagine him being, hes been involved with the elites ,even looking awfully friendly to the Clintons for most of his life. you can go back 20 years or only just a handful of years back and hes said positive things about many of the people he 'ran against'. many of the people i have seen on lists of potential cabinet members are still the same corporate elite / establishment members.
im just amazed at how slow people have been to try and grapple with the idea that we voted a corrupt businessman(who has always used his money to sit at the edges of politics) in instead of a corrupt politician
trumps possibly a puppet and was picked to win( of russia or god knows who else) or the grand conspiracy about voting being rigged is not true ( and then likely many others connected to it)
his temperament should scare everyone, look at how much the past few presidents aged during their terms and now imagine a man so impulsive that openly basically said comey was a partisan hack, a hero to his country, and then a partisan hack within the span of a few days. now apply that sith mentality all day everyday for years
tldr i know for many the celebrations of a non clinton presidency are still going but i wonder what is to happen when the reality of a trump presidency sets in
1 t0_0l 2016-11-07
Well, he would essentially be the republican version of Obama. False hope, no change. However, what's interesting is that if this were the case (which my gut tells me it is) it could reveal to a larger population - a population starting to wake up and is getting involved in populist movements - that leaders of these movements can be shills and controlled by the same system (or 'the powers that be'), essentially cut from the same cloth. If that's the case....fuck, we've got a long way to go.
1 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
Haha - love the sidebar: catastrophic failure
1 ghettomotels 2016-11-07
Upon further review, the popular/electoral vote split had to be intentional, especially given how monumental this election was. It's simply too "out there".
vaudeville2016
1 uprightciti 2016-11-07
If this election was rigged what are the benefits to having it rigged?
Trump wants to eliminate the American ties to the TPP which has some serious ties to the Clinton Foundation
Building a wall and restoring our military bases
Removing universal health care (obamacare)
And creating a tax structure that will essentially make the dollar weak enough to support a more manufacturing and exporting "American made" goods at a cheaper price
the top 1% will only become more wealthy and because of smaller government the rich will have far more power.
All that being said...somethings got to break
Right?
1 flexedUP 2016-11-07
The Elites are going to collapse the Economy on him since we're in a massive bubble, then point the finger at him and make us wish for our old politicians back (NWO). They're very smart. It's coming children.
1 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
Elites are shitting their pants as the countdown to the "transfer of power" ticks down with Trump still alive and well.
A lot of focus by the media on his plane... which didn't blow up.
Anyone notice them investigating one of Clintons planes last night on the news? They said they were "removing their names from the side" but there was something else going on for sure.
0 Reaper137 2016-11-07
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/795626324975034369
0 THE_LORD_HERESY 2016-11-07
The people are fucked regardless so what difference does it make?
On one hand I want Hillary to be their selection. This way, I get to see all the crazy shit the Trump supporters come up with. They were on the mans dick like crazy so seeing them cry, scream and go nuts is very appealing to me.
On the other hand I want Trump to win. The reason for this is so he will show his true colors and treat those who felt they were disenfranchised and marginalized like shit. This way, their entitlement is flushed down the toilet and they can take a step back and evaluate themselves.
The popcorn, chips, candy and other junkfood I have is going to fuck up my workout regime as I already had my cheat day but this is a once in a life time event. A woman selected as president? A rich troll selected as president? LMAO!
1 dejeneration 2016-11-07
Ideally, in this situation, Clinton elected with majority Republican in Congress. Or a Constitutional crisis that gets the CIA's boy McMullin in.
I've been trying, trying to prep my loved ones who are credulously clinging to Trump for the inevitable troll, but it hasn't been successful. Eyes and ears closed and I'm worried how they'll handle it when they realize what they've done.
1 THE_LORD_HERESY 2016-11-07
They will probably shut down, blame themselves, etc.
-1 justintrulander 2016-11-07
All lives matter
0 HotwheelzFFX 2016-11-07
No false-flag, but at some point Russia will invade and annex the rest of the Ukraine. We'll stamp our feet for show, but nobody will do anything.
1 trumpetspieler 2016-11-07
Would you rather there be a war to stop them?
0 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
tinfoil hat - Coast Guard attacks NYC in lieu of "fireworks" being cancelled.
0 nottheoretical 2016-11-07
I'm watching this on PBS livefeed. Trump gets georgia
0 khaipur 2016-11-07
Okay so Trump said repeatedly that the election was rigged. Then he won. Did he ever say who was rigging the election? I mean, everyone took it to mean he was complaining about it being rigged against him, what if he was bragging instead?
1 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
I'd be willing to bet that Trump has been working with the FBI for a long while now...
-1 ThereIsNoRoseability 2016-11-07
I think a lot of you anti-Hilary folks are forgetting that Trump too is as much of a puppet as she is. Of course they're handing her the seat, why else do you think they had Trump run? Much easier to stomach a Clinton victory in this election if the other candidate is so distasteful.
It might be a waste of a vote but screw it, if I'm voting then I'm voting for the alternatives to these candidates, it's not like voting Clinton or Trump is any less of a waste in this sham.
-1 andronicii 2016-11-07
North Carolina, Michigan, Iowa, and WISCONSIN will all go to Clinton.
7 Fuckaduckfuckaduck 2016-11-07
North Carolina already went to Trump.
2 andronicii 2016-11-07
That went against my calculations, I still say she wins by a razor thin margin: as much of a feel good ending as you can get for both sides.
1 UFFL 2016-11-07
Lol this was fun to look back on
2 Hollywood_WBS 2016-11-07
Bro youre tripping... WHERES THE RIG
-2 quackchomp 2016-11-07
why is it assumed that only hillary will cheat? republicans have been cheating elections for years. THINK ABOUT FLORIDA and who the governor is. This can be rigged either way
1 robert9712000 2016-11-07
Because all of the establishment Republicans in a position to game the system would rather have Hillary and try again in 4 years then have Trump win.
1 quackchomp 2016-11-07
but there are still republicans in power (like florida governor rick the skelton man Scott) that will very much want trump to win. Im just trying to say its very much possible either side rigs this election, its not impossible. Most people on reddit werent even born in 2000 when we saw one of the most rigged elections in our history
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1 georgefoyett 2016-11-07
Idiot
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1 georgefoyett 2016-11-07
If you can post a comment without deleting it plus your account then I'll agree with you
Edit : you did it again? Lmfao . Keep deleting your accounts and comments . Moron
1 DefrancoAce222 2016-11-07
uhhh...ok?
-3 scott003 2016-11-07
trump looks scared, not happy
10 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Nah dude, he looked like he was going to cry from joy.
Beginning of this speech is class
-3 friendlystar 2016-11-07
I thought the election was rigged? I guess its only rigged when YOUR choice doesnt win. Fuck this dumb ass sub.
6 superbatprime 2016-11-07
Do you understand what "rigged" means? It means heavily and covertly weighted towards one outcome. It doesn't mean "fixed" which is a guaranteed outcome. Fixing carries a much higher risk of detection than rigging.
This was a landslide, without the ghost votes and buses and the collusion of the entire media and all the other tricks the Dems would have been wiped off the map.
For them it was an election, business as usual but for the people who voted against Hillary, against "the swamp"...for them this was a revolution.
3 TinyEars7 2016-11-07
It'll be better off without ya, take care, not so friendly star!
3 TinyEars7 2016-11-07
It'll be better off without ya, take care, not so friendly star!
-4 whatthehellnoway153 2016-11-07
The best part about this election is that if Hillary wins, no matter how legitimate it seems, trump babies will cry rigged the whole way back to mom and dad's attic. The thing is she didn't even need to rig this election because of the sheer hilarity in her opposition. She will win because trump is a failure and we can add this to all his failures
-6 quackchomp 2016-11-07
Hillary will win, and as much as I wish that she has to cheat to win (and get caught and impeached), she will in fair and square because what rational, educated person sees the joke of Donald trump being a better president? My hope is these next 4 years blow by quickly, we don't have a war, status quo is maintained, we get liberal leaning judges in 2017 (unless the right continues to disrupt and make a farce of their jobs) or after the midterms, and then in 2020 a real progressive like Bernie, BUT with better implementations of their ideas, and we move on from this cycle of elitism. One can only hope for that future
-6 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
B O R I N G
Edit. Wow peeps. No sense of humor today? Playing nice is boring though I was joking and looking . forward to not seeing people tearing one another to shreds over 2 crap candidates. We deserve better.
3 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
You can say a lot of negative shit about this election, but it hasn't been boring
1 DawnPendraig 2016-11-07
LOL yes the election wasnt. Playing nice is boring and was a joke
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5 100ftninja 2016-11-07
I'm typically a happy fuck. I haven't cried mid-coitus since '99.
4 bugsbunnystew 2016-11-07
u seem upset
-8 drax117 2016-11-07
Enjoy having a fascist, an autocrat and a demagogue as president. I'm slightly consolidated by the fact that I get to now witness all you Trump supporters slowly come to hate him as he does absolutely nothing you support and further fucks this country over.
13 dadmda 2016-11-07
That also describes Hillary
1 drax117 2016-11-07
Yeah well I was a bernie guy so either one was fucked
12 Unique_Username73 2016-11-07
Then don't take it out on us, most of us were also Bernie people until he got screwed in the primaries
11 CthuIhu 2016-11-07
Have you ever heard of this thing called Wikileaks?
You might have some reading to do
Also, we could have had Bernie, but the DNC didn't want that.
1 Ambiguously_Ironic 2016-11-07
Rule 10, first warning.
-25 [deleted] 2016-11-07
If you are voting for trump you pretty much a rapist.
10 zimzamzimzamzimzam 2016-11-07
get out of your basement, dumbass
1 dejeneration 2016-11-07
I know plenty of Trump voters who aren't rapists. That said, they are playing a serious game of "see no evil, hear no evil" and "speak evil every once in awhile." They aren't even willing to discuss it with me when I bring up facts, they just say, "I've made up my mind." I think it's tougher for them because they KNOW I'm not a Clinton fan and have despised those people for decades, but fuck if I'm going to let them go through life thinking Trump is some kind of messiah. And they know he's not a messiah, but just can't, at this point, handle the reality that they're being clowned.
9 axolotl_peyotl 2016-11-07
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4 nighthawk1961 2016-11-07
$$$$$$
10 beeksie 2016-11-07
I feel that giant douche's positions more adequately reflect my views.
12 MrGreggle 2016-11-07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8wJc7vHcTs
Same exact policies. Trump is an honest man.
26 Phinigma 2016-11-07
All I know is that the wrongdoings that we know about from Trump pale in comparison to that of HRC. This is a lesser of two evils election.
1 TheUniverseis2D 2016-11-07
Watch this: https://youtu.be/rNTd0oGXGJE?t=49s
What's your opinion?
36 Phinigma 2016-11-07
If you got enough people to do it sure, but you won't. The best course of action is mass organized protest on the capital. They won't admit it, but the jails are overcrowded as it is. They can only "arrest" so many people before they have to start thinking of a better solution. Force the government to shut down. Block them from getting to their jobs, shut down the streets around government facilities and make them listen. The international media, corrupt or not, will have no choice but to cover it. Refuse to cease and desist until they take action. Do not get violent but don't back down. Make them call the police and then the Army. If they continue to escalate the situation with weapons and violence, the outside world, (Other first-world countries), will get involved. If there is enough outrage, they will have no choice but to give in.
-6 DominizZzle 2016-11-07
How honest was he when he lied about having a relationship with Putin? Get out of here
10 the_banyan 2016-11-07
Holy smokes! He's exactly the same, and he predicted the early 90s recession, too! Incredible. I keep hearing people say he's a crook or fraud, but I've never seen a shred of evidence. Can someone enlighten me to this supposed evidence?
12 flartibartfast 2016-11-07
no one is surprised, this is all part of the plan. You need to realize nothing in geopolitics happens by chance.
6 IamNotYourBuddy 2016-11-07
Revolt and peace are two different things.
14 fingerbang_fun 2016-11-07
yes. the same folks who bring you the election show bring you the terrorism show.
but shit is gonna go down. i expect it during the transition.
0 xveganrox 2016-11-07
The same guy who in 2013 wrote:
Yeah, seems consistent to me. The same guy who is a long time friend of the Clintons and every other powerbroker in the United States who will give him the time of day. The same guy who defrauded people with his "university." I hope I somehow missed the sarcasm.
2 Yanqui-UXO 2016-11-07
Godspeed you!
5 brofidential 2016-11-07
The FF planners have been busy working the election. Once Hilldawg is officially elected, they can resume their FF duties.
13 THE_LORD_HERESY 2016-11-07
IMHO, anyone who votes is functionally retarded. If a person honestly believes that the global elite will allow the common joe to decide the leadership of the most advanced and richest country on the face of the Earth, by filling in a bubble next to a name, then yeah...functionally retarded in my book.
10 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
I throw up in my mouth a little bit every time Sanders tells people to vote for HRC and that a vote for anyone else is a waste.
10 ConspiratorialChairs 2016-11-07
I'll still take Trump over HRC if given the choice. There's a chance Trump really is a well-meaning idiot who will moderately fuck up the country for a few years. That seems preferable to WW3.
2 98427384950 2016-11-07
Like all those sexual assault allegations that just disappeared and are no longer discussed by anyone!
1 THE_LORD_HERESY 2016-11-07
They will probably shut down, blame themselves, etc.
1 BasedAssadReturns 2016-11-07
LMAO
17 Legalise_Gay_Weed 2016-11-07
I'm not American, but I can assure you that this looks utterly bizarre from my viewpoint too. You have a woman, who is obviously a criminal, running for office and nobody is brave enough to stop her. This is the kind of shit you expect to see in the most corrupt nations in Africa, but not in the US. Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive enough to think that corruption isn't rife in all governments, but this is taking it to a whole new level. They are flaunting it right out in the open, for the whole world to see.
I hate Mr Trump, but I'm supporting him today.
2 8n0n 2016-11-07
Monty Puthon's The Black Knight comes to mind whenever someone mentions the economy.
1 weigh_all_sides 2016-11-07
If everyone stopped paying taxes, the feds would just print more money. Taxes only fund local governments. Federal taxes are there to ensure you (a) have less income and (b) to force people to use their currency.
3 The_Ruffneck 2016-11-07
20 trillion in debt. Adding over a trillion per year.
The strength of the US Dollar as a world currency is dependent on being used to pay for oil.That is a huge part of what the middle east war is about now.The USA is currently losing the wars in the middle east, the petrodollar is in grave danger of losing it's status.When that happens expect very high inflation.
Also the economic numbers put out by the US government are fake.All total BS.
10 GoddessWins 2016-11-07
No one seems to know or remember the reason Jimmy Carter was punished so severely. He fired G.H.W. Bush and more than 500 CIA agents.
3 hglman 2016-11-07
What do they need with that bulldozer, why is it digging a big hole...
1 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
All I hear is speculation until I see some proof. I used to think the elite could keep living in a post-ww3 world, but it was mostly due to ignorance
1 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
Please tell me what these plans are, and how they will accomplish them in a post-nuclear world. There will be nothing to accomplish, the surface of the planet will be ruined, and everyone remaining will be living on borrowed time. There's no point, and no order remaining or even possible.
2 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
Correct... but there has to be a large portion of the agent workforce that do not agree with what they have seen.
I predict this will go down like the RICO case in The Dark Knight... with Comey being the Harvey Dent... I believe in Comey. I've looked long and hard at him and his decisions. I think he is prolly fuckin' super-legit.
11 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
I heard a great analogy the other day...
People fight and riot just to get black Friday deals.. What do you think they'll do during a crisis to get food and water? -_-
1 HarryandWinston 2016-11-07
Wasn't Orlando just a few months ago?
1 Pomask 2016-11-07
I feel like the fix has been in on this one for a long time so getting to that 5% mark would be the closest thing to a victory of sorts. Thanks for clearing up the percentage and the reward for reaching it!
1 PetililPuff 2016-11-07
We can easily predict a lot of the states, too. Like police state CA for Hillary. They've got a lot of electoral votes...
1 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
Yup.
3 dafooz 2016-11-07
This. I made a post in * another * thread but it was a megathread, so my post didn't gain any traction...
1 XavierSimmons 2016-11-07
The electors don't get to vote any way they please. Many of the states require the electors to vote for the popular winner, and many states allow the parties to bond electors to the party. There aren't very many "free" electors.
5 heres_one_for_ya 2016-11-07
Because third party?
2 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
not trying to sound like a zealot, but this was in the Bible, we just assumed it was Hillary.
5 birthdaysuit11 2016-11-07
There's no doubt in my mind that Trump is an easily, corrupt malleable politician for the bankers and the corporatists. He might even be into that occult voodoo shit like Hilary, who knows.
1 zippityd0dah 2016-11-07
I think he literally only campaigned there too.
1 jonm111 2016-11-07
aaaah it all makes sense now, why didn't I think of that.
7 Kerabyte 2016-11-07
that's because we were wrong, and in the eve of silence, trepidation and paranoia is coming.
1 Dixnorkel 2016-11-07
I guess Germany didn't want conflict when they invaded Poland.
1 Badger_Storm 2016-11-07
Well, Trump won...
4 Sabremesh 2016-11-07
BBC tv election coverage is making quite a lot of this anomaly. It dropped dropped from 99% to 89% and back to 99%.
3 Earthboun4 2016-11-07
Though Its Sad to see how misinformed most people who only watch news are though
2 ohcumgache 2016-11-07
I thought I heard it!
6 ohcumgache 2016-11-07
Also, Podesta's "speech" at HRC's HQ was nothing short of bizarre. "We're proud of her, go home and sleep now."
1 Commissar_Sae 2016-11-07
One politician being manipulated by a cult makes sense. there is evidence, it's happened many times before. Rasputin being the prime example.
arguing that dozens if not hundreds of high level politicians are all in on a child kidnapping/molesting occult society with the bare minimum of evidence is ridiculous.
I can believe that most of them collude and work together to screw us over pretty easily. Saying they are devil worshipping pedophiles is just kind of dumb.
1 saveprivateryne 2016-11-07
I'm right there with you. Who knows. We all knew no matter which one won we would all lose.
3 johnviku 2016-11-07
Yes that was bizzaro world. He won PA, but we're not calling it. SOMETHING was up. They hadn't gotten the signal.
EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5c2v94/hypothesis_mainstream_media_withheld_the_election/
2 Sabremesh 2016-11-07
BBC live election tv show had this about PA. They actually discussed that this sudden drop didn't make sense.
1 johnviku 2016-11-07
someone started a thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5c2v94/hypothesis_mainstream_media_withheld_the_election/
1 Johnsonjay63 2016-11-07
Agreed.... If I just spent a large sum of money (Billions) and realized those promises won't be met because my horse slipped in the mud (not happy).
It just takes a few people to start a march to protest your opinion and once its big enough, you add some violence for added chaos with a riot shortly to follow.
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1 Ninjakick666 2016-11-07
I'd be willing to bet that Trump has been working with the FBI for a long while now...