Has Wikileaks Been Compromised?
99 2016-11-12 by themosthatedone
Forward: I am not trying to discredit any of the work that Wikileaks or Assange has done, in the past. I fully respect, and honor these people. I am just concerned that we must determine whether or not WL has been compromised, and if a new route should be taken for future leaks. We do not want whistleblowers to leak information to controlled opposition, and if need be, we need to build up a new platform for whistleblowing.
I think it is high time that we address the elephant in the room. I am not saying to stop what we are doing, but we need to band together and get wikileaks to prove themselves, or we need to take everything we read as "partial" information. I'm not saying that we are getting fakes. I am suggesting that the leaks are being scrutinized, and certain emails are being withheld (Why did we see the FBI dump a lot of information as to the 7th Floor, but we don't see a whole lot about them in the Podesta emails?) Wikileaks just has not been the same since the silencing of Assange, in October.
They created a PGP key for the very purpose of validating their authenticity, and have yet to sign a press release since this election fiasco...
Who has changed the feel of wikileaks? Was it the 7th floor? Was is Ecuador? Was is Russia? Was it the new administrator of the wikileaks twitter? There is no denying that wikileaks has changed...but if a trusted member of wikileaks is in charge, then they should be able to provide proof.
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The Deadman's Switch
October 16, 2016: The official @Wikileaks twitter account posted a series of cryptic tweets:
pre-commitment 1: John Kerry 4bb96075acadc3d80b5ac872874c3037a386f4f595fe99e687439aabd0219809
pre-commitment 2: Ecuador eae5c9b064ed649ba468f0800abf8b56ae5cfe355b93b1ce90a1b92a48a9ab72: ecuador
pre-commitment 3: UK FCO f33a6de5c627e3270ed3e02f62cd0c857467a780cf6123d2172d80d02a072f74
This is something that Wikileaks has not had a history of doing. People have interpreted this as an encryption commitment scheme, and that these are SHA256 hashes, but none of the files on the wikileaks site, nor do the files in the wikileaks insurance torrent, check with any of these hashes.
The other speculation is that these are the actually keys or passwords to the encrypted files within the wikileaks insurance files. This however, is also false.
I think that the hash itself is a signature to the tweets that can be verified by WL partners who see the messages. I think that it is possible that precommitment is being used, in this sense, as a deterrent to a retaliation from an opponent (See Wikipedia/Precommitment)
It is possible that Assange had intercepted communications between Kerry and Ecuador. Or that he had caught wind that Kerry was going to leverage the FCO against Ecuador to extradite/give-up Assange. These tweets could have been the message for help. Was everyone who could have interpreted these messages also compromised? Is that why we have no official statement from the new controller of the WL twitter? No explanation except: Julian Assange's internet link has been intentionally severed by a state party. We have activated the appropriate contingency plans. They pretty much acknowlege a deadman's switch...but there seems to be more that we weren't told.
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The Second Switch, Censored Tweet A /pol thread indicated that a second "deadman's" tweet may have been censored. A link to the archived reddit conversation below.
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John Kerry, the coup, and the Guantanamo Express
It is highly coincidental that the cryptic tweets talk about John Kerry. The Secretary of State just happened to be in Londan, near the time of the cryptic tweets. He was supposedly there in an effort to renow Syrian peace efforts. Any news on any treaties from that day? Nah...Kerry wasn't there for that. He was organizing a coup on Wikileaks.
Supporters responded to the dead man switch by meeting at the Ecuadorian embassy. One of the supporters setup a periscope live stream that had thousands of live viewers, when suddenly the stream was cut, and there were rumors that an "unnamed crew" entered the embassy during the outage.
I had come across several other tweets and articles indicating that other people in the area had been met by armed SWAT that confiscated their phones, and barred entrance into the streets neighboring the embassy. If someone can find links, I would appreciate this.
Subsequent to the deadman tweets, and the rumors of a heavily armed extraction team, we have a jet that mysteriously takes off from London and speeds off to the United States.
It looks as if a jet, that has ties to the CIA, had been tracked from Assange's location to Raleigh, NC. Raleigh is a stone's throw from several detention facilities known to be used for court-martials, war crimes, and other spook related stuff. The post by /u/JasperPennybottom has server good links, that give serious credibility to this theory.
Wikileaks tweeted:
in regards to a meeting that Kerry supposedly had with Ecuador to turn off Assange's internet.
Was it just the internet getting turned off, or was Assange in custody?
What sources does wikileaks have for this? I'm feeling like this was high up enough to where it was on a need-to-know.
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Pamela Anderson and the last meal So, how does Pamela Anderson fit in to all of this? She apparently visited Assange relatively close to time of Assange's disappearance. Some people are speculating that she was sent there to make the conspiracy folks look way out there. https://twitter.com/pamfoundation/status/787351204288430082
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The new feel of the Podesta email leaks, and the new attitude of the WL Twitter
For over a decade, the @Wikileaks twitter was pretty non-opinionated and was almost robotic in the release of leaks. Post deadman keys and "contingency plans", the twitter has re-tweeted bias articles by Politico, and even made veiled threats. It was almost like watching @KimDotCom
The Podesta dumps started to feel like they might be moderated. The dumps started out strong, picking up steam every day. It seemed like every day something BREAKING or SMOKING GUN was getting released. The post deadman releases seemed like...something was missing.
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The Massive DDOS attacks
Packets have been flying, and breaking the internet, in record proportions.
http://www.welivesecurity.com/2016/10/24/10-things-know-october-21-iot-ddos-attacks/
Were these attempts at silencing the deadman switch and the other private deadman's switches?
Supposedly 4chan is being DDoS'd as we speak: https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5celwx/4chan_under_ddos_after_finding_link_bw_doj_and/
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The lack of cryptographic verification (PGP Signature)
Wikileaks predominantly displays their PGP Public key on their website and their twitter. Why aren't they using it for validation that Wikileaks has not been compromised? We saw the deadman's switch tweets, we heard the rumors, the leaks became bland, and we are supposed to just take the new twitter user(s) word for it? Why would they even create the PGP key to begin with? This is from Wikileaks' website:
So...none of the press releases have been signed, should we assume that the author does not have the ability to sign, and validate the authenticity of the posts?
I know there are going to be people who don't know what PGP is, but you can read the wiki. From the Wikipedia page for Pretty Good Privacy section Digital Signature:
Wikileaks had started using cryptographic authentication for the Podesta dump:https://wikileaks.org/DKIM-Verification.html But can't verify one of their own press releases? This sure seems...odd.
Many people have been pressing for a PGP signed statement, and it is continually met with silence. The sole reason they created the PGP key was to verify that they are indeed not compromised. It is far time that they do it. It seems like they may be buying time, while a large cluster of servers chip away at cracking the private key.
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The RT John Pilger Interview and the "Live" phone interview to UMET
Julian gives an interview to John Pilger.
In this video, there is no defining shot to indicate that John Pilger is even the one interviewing Assange.
There is no dialogue on Assange's part that would indicate that this interview even took place after "Julian's internet was disconnected"
Assange said that Trump would not be permitted to win. What? He was, though. Are the powers that be amputating their infected leg (Hillary)?
Video by MaxLiberty raising concerns over odd Pilger interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcG5hjnh8Sw
Julian gives and interview to Confrencia Internacional De Software
This sounds genuine...for the most part. But there are the parts that sound very robotic. His speech does not flow well, and it reminds me of the soundboards we used to use to make prank phone calls. Manipulating audio is not a very technical feat. I don't trust it.
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The AMA, the lack of proof, and the overall fail
Yesterday, the "Wikileaks team" did an AMA. The proof was a couple of tweets and a failed attempt at uploading a selfie to imgur. The Imgur proof was never updated, and a mod by the name of {mod deleted their accoutn} verified that the image had also been emailed to the moderators of /r/IAMA. I created a dialogue with this mod, and they had told me that Wikileaks had never offered a PGP signature for proof. The mod has since removed all of the comments. This is a /r/IAMA mod, so basically a reddit employee. Another mod /u/orangejulius was leading to believe that WL had provided cryptographic proof, privately, but then backpaddled when I asked him straight out. WL did not provide PGP. Please see:
Unreddit also seems to 404 on this page...can anyone try to find the deleted comments?
There were lots of unanswered questions, and the AMA basically fell apart. Very unlike the AMAs that Wikileaks had done prior to this one...
Now the mods seem to be re-arranging the top comments of the post; there are parent comments with -11 votes, on the front page of the post. Sort by top, and you will see that the mods are hiding that the OP did not respond to any questions of any consequence. All of the questions they responded to were very bland, and basic answers that any shill could provide.
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I know there is a lot more. I am traveling, but I wanted to get this going. Mods, please sticky this is an important conversation that needs to be had. I have been notified of subreddit dedicated to this: /r/WhereIsAssange, but we have a whole lot more subscribed critical thinkers, here in /r/conspiracy. We need to get the attention of wikileaks. They need to sign a simple message with their PGP.
Most importantly, the talk of the FBI coup, and other things means that there will potentially be new whistleblowers. We need to make certain that they have a reputable platform to release to.
37 comments
20 vgza12 2016-11-12
That AMA was a load of crap. CTR spewing disinfo everywhere. They might not be pushing every single anti Trump post to the top anymore, but they're still here and being more discrete (I think they learned a lesson). r/Wikileaks is still compromised https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/590mo7/regarding_the_takeover_at_rwikileaks/ along with r/politics, r/news, etc. (Although honestly i think every sub besides this one is trash when talking about controversial issues). I tried to comment on the r/Wikileaks post yesterday that made it to r/all very early and anything I said didn't show up on the thread. Reddit has gone to complete shit and r/conspiracy is the only source of truth nowadays
3 Ronaldjpierce 2016-11-12
I had some trouble a little bit ago, thought I was shadow banned or something. I posted but nothing showed up. Also tried to make a text post, but it came up as a link post. Messaged a mod and he said I was not banned, and then it started working.
2 Exec99 2016-11-12
Same exact thing happened to me here.
1 Ronaldjpierce 2016-11-12
Did it go back to normal after messaging the moderator?
1 Exec99 2016-11-12
Yes
3 BUFF4LO 2016-11-12
Sad to say, but i agree. Even the_donald was good until about 24 hours after the election. It used to be more focused on restoring a less corrupt govt. Now the shitposting is off the charts and anything of substance is rare. It feels like CTR is distracting them with themselves
9 showmeurboobsplznthx 2016-11-12
Yea wikileaks has been compromised. They need to clean everything up and have Jullian assange participate in showing credibility.
7 themosthatedone 2016-11-12
It may not be exactly possible for Assange to participate. But I would think if he has time to do an interview for RT, that he would have the time to meet with the rest of his team, and provide a little bit of legitimacy to the "contingency"
7 showmeurboobsplznthx 2016-11-12
Podesta emails have become tame. Shouldn't it be getting juicier?
4 themosthatedone 2016-11-12
Shouldn't there be some sort of information on the 7th floor? I mean...the FBI even dumped documents from the Hillary email investigation that confirmed the "7th Floor Group", or "The Shadow Government"
Please see the link to the FBI Records, Page 56.
Page 26 also talks of quid-pro-quo trade made to un-classify some of the Hillary emails in exchange for the FBI to be able to place more agents in countries where they were currently forbidden. Basically, the same people who were investigating HRC were able to make a deal with her (or her friends) instead of prosecute her. Really interesting stuff. I'm sure if you were being investigated for something, you could just bribe the detectives, right?
Edit: spelling
2 showmeurboobsplznthx 2016-11-12
I want to see more of that. The last 6 pose as ta leaks are all full of repeating stiff we already know. I swear they are edited as the early leaks show communications between certain people to be very frequent and these last 6 breaks that cycle. And wikileaks is now a Twitter personality and not just an output. Time will tell.
2 themosthatedone 2016-11-12
Also, the DKIM is no longer present. (Not that the 7th Floor Group doens't probably include someone who influences google...)
2 showmeurboobsplznthx 2016-11-12
I honestly think they overlooked the dkim and now they corrected it. Why would you release boring irrelevant shit the day after the election when people are even more driven. Then the media all of a sudden starts sourcing it. Come the fuck on. I'm not buying it till the assange situation is resolved.
7 Exec99 2016-11-12
Mmm I think you are on to something!
5 [deleted] 2016-11-12
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1 TheGhostOfDusty 2016-11-12
Rule 6. Removed.
5 MaunaLoona 2016-11-12
https://i.imgur.com/Gfdrot2.png
https://www.ceddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5c8u9l/we_are_the_wikileaks_staff_despite_our_editor/d9vtmh1/?context=3
4 [deleted] 2016-11-12
Thanks for the shout out about the sketchy UMET/ CISL phone-in recording. I think it's pretty strong proof that Assange is in trouble (and if we can find a 'smoking gun' segment from a previous interview/talk where it's clear the UMET phone-in recording uses it - then it is 100% solid proof). I was waiting to see if they would "restore his Internet" after the election before posting, but since they haven't here we are.
3 ablevictor 2016-11-12
Thank you for posting this again. I agree that this is very important and mostly flying under the radar. Also it seems /r/whereisassange is relatively inactive about this.
3 JusticiaChristos 2016-11-12
Video by MaxLiberty raising concerns over odd Pilger interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcG5hjnh8Sw
3 themosthatedone 2016-11-12
Adding this. Thanks! - it is very reparative, but beings up a valid point.
2 myteasinggf 2016-11-12
What is the 7th floor?
2 NMTommy 2016-11-12
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2016/10/17/the-state-departments-shadow-government/amp/?client=safari
n/a anon-nullz 2016-11-12
"RT's editor-in-chief visited WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London in August 2013, where they discussed renewing his broadcast contract with RT, according to Russian and Western media," the report noted.
RT is of course .. STATE media.. unlike our American Free Press.
http://www.businessinsider.com/us-intelligence-report-wikileaks-russian-hacking-2017-1
0 We-think-we-are-free 2016-11-12
Yes. Same people funding the rnc and trump were also involved in WL
1 themosthatedone 2016-11-12
No. That is silly. Wikileaks did pleanty of damage to the RNC, in times past.
4 We-think-we-are-free 2016-11-12
That was when it was verified legit. Wikileaks has changed since mid October to ensure a trump win.
2 themosthatedone 2016-11-12
Things are seemingly being suppressed, since. Are you alluding that the RNC would suppress some of this information from the Podesta emails, to get elected? This makes no sense.
I think it was the 7th floor group saw that Clinton was already finished with the early leaks, the health concerns, and the giant support for Trump. I think the secret government then decided that Trump would be an easier convert than risk keeping the infected Clinton around. If Don was elected, the focus would hopefully stray from Clinton, because the more we probe, the more we find the people connected to her. Those are the people who have something to lose...
3 We-think-we-are-free 2016-11-12
Things were suppressed because the electoral college backed down. Look, every 8 years there will be a party flip. So it doesn't look staged this year, they turned it into a 3 ring circus. They knew what they were doing. A major event will take place soon. Peace will not be allowed by the republicans and Democrats
0 bhaga 2016-11-12
It has been compromised, but not the way you think. Assange played a role in getting the populace hoodwinked. He's now laughing his ass off as he sips on pinas coladas with Soros et al somewhere on Epstein's island.
America was on the brink of revolution. TPTB knew that very well. The only thing that could settle the antsy masses down, would be if they got for the president the one man who seemed like their only hope. But to ensure the irritated masses really feel like they are getting the right guy, it was essential to paint the contender as absolute sack of shit. Hillary, who was a chosen scapegoat played her part, as did the Donald. The sheeple worshiping him have been had, and so have the rest of us because of them.
2 themosthatedone 2016-11-12
I've seen nothing to indicate that this would be the case. Do you have anything to support any of this idea?
0 [deleted] 2016-11-12
You do realize the vote difference in Michigan and Pennsylvania were a razor thin 12k and 70k respectively? If Trump hadn't won those Hillary would have won. There's absolutely no fucking way it was rigged for Trump when the margins were like that. the_donald is boasting like it was a landslide but no, it really wasn't at all.
5 DntSaNoJstSaUDntKno 2016-11-12
I don't follow your logic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be saying that the total votes for each candidate being close is evidence that the election was not rigged.
I don't see how that is evidence of anything. In fact, if someone wanted to rig an election they would want to add as few fraudulent votes as possible because each fraudulent vote is a crime and a chance that the fraud will be discovered. Also, you are assuming that whoever would be rigging the election only has the power to effect the votes before they are counted. What if the fraud occurs later? These are powerful people and for all I know they could count all the votes, and then just throw that total out the window. Then report whatever numbers they want us to see. Also, a close election is much more believable than a landslide which would also deter scrutiny.
I don't know if the election was rigged for either candidate, I have seen no proof of fraud. However, I refuse to underestimate the power and the deviousness of the interests that run this country.
President elect Trump has my support until he proves to be under the control of the establishment, I hope that never happens.
2 [deleted] 2016-11-12
I'm only talking about 2 states, not the whole vote count. Pennsylvania was also called almost immediately so I seriously doubt there was any funny stuff adding votes for Trump (unlike Michigan which I think they still haven't even officially called, or Florida back in 2000).
More generally I can't think of an election in history that was rigged that had razor thin margins. Maybe you know one you can link. You can only fabricate so many votes, and you are even more constrained depending on the state. They would have mitigated the risk if they were rigging it.
1 DntSaNoJstSaUDntKno 2016-11-12
I think we are just looking at this from two different perspectives. I am saying that someone interested in rigging an election could entirely fabricate the outcome. Especially in the age of electronic voting.
I also think that having small margins of victory are beneficial to TPTB because it reinforces the idea of a country deeply divided.
I don't like to give info about myself, but I live in one of those two states, in a county that is 70%+ registered democrat. My county has around 125000 people, which live mostly in a small city. Trump won my county pretty soundly, which was very surprising given our demographics. Surprising but plausible. The point being that if you are rigging you want the results to be plausible.
I'm not alleging any voter fraud or election fraud. All I am saying is that the margins are not an indicator either for or against a proper election.
-7 edimaudo 2016-11-12
I think you are overreacting. When it is conducive time for them to speak, they would.
4 themosthatedone 2016-11-12
They chose that time, and opted to do an AMA.
7 [deleted] 2016-11-12
failed at that - I saw it right away when someone asked them about why the interenet was cut off and they didnt seem to know the real reason or want to talk about it..was super fishy
great work OP - kudos to your investigative essay
0 [deleted] 2016-11-12
You do realize the vote difference in Michigan and Pennsylvania were a razor thin 12k and 70k respectively? If Trump hadn't won those Hillary would have won. There's absolutely no fucking way it was rigged for Trump when the margins were like that. the_donald is boasting like it was a landslide but no, it really wasn't at all.
2 themosthatedone 2016-11-12
I've seen nothing to indicate that this would be the case. Do you have anything to support any of this idea?
2 showmeurboobsplznthx 2016-11-12
I honestly think they overlooked the dkim and now they corrected it. Why would you release boring irrelevant shit the day after the election when people are even more driven. Then the media all of a sudden starts sourcing it. Come the fuck on. I'm not buying it till the assange situation is resolved.