Charles Manson was a Scientologist who was so advanced in the process that he "tested clear."

Manson was also connected to the Process Church, a Scientology spinoff. And Manson & many of his Family showed connections & characteristics that were consistent with MKUltra victims.

Scientology testing is the definition of a blackmail fishing operation. In order to "go clear" you must confess everything, including fantasies, latent tendencies & sexual information.

So, no. Your theory is 100% opposite of the direction of the facts.

I can't say for sure, but I've watched a fair amount of stuff on Scientology due to my having taken part in the GTA V chiliad mystery and I honestly can't say I recall any allegations of pedophilia in that group.

That's not to say it mightn't exist, but I dig your theory although a lot of what I've learned about scientology suggests they're not really as squeaky clean in other respects. They allegedly use a lot of mind control tactics and are quite known to harass people even remotely interested. I was near the center in Quebec City and considered going in for pamphlets and what not but I preferred to stay off their radar.

While it may be propaganda if your theory is true, check out "Going clear: scientology and the prison of belief". It was a good watch.

While it may be propaganda if your theory is true, check out "Going clear: scientology and the prison of belief". It was a good watch

A thing i found odd when "going clear" came out, was the way that everyone seemed to eat the narrative completely. I didn't see a single skeptical voice dare to ask if the movie was completely truthful or not.
All the discussion about the movie in conspiracy sites all centered about how gutsy hbo was in pushing the same old "scientology is a cult and they will ruin your life and take your money, and the reason anyone seems happy about being a scientologist its because they're brainwashed"-narrative thats already been pushed by the media since people started making documentaries about scientology.

Considering the brainwashing power the media has, i find it a little hard to trust their stories about who i should and shouldn't trust. I'm not saying that scientology should be trusted, but neither should hbo. You ever wonder if anyone would have bothered to watch a documentary that painted scientology in a favorable light. Hbo had no truth-telling mission in showing that movie, only a money making one, so they told the story that would get the most viewers. People like to confirm what we already think we know, and we usually don't like to be proven wrong, and going clear, did exactly that, since most people already had an idea of what scientology was before seeing the movie, and the movie did nothing to change that view.

Excellent points. I took it with a grain of salt as anyone should an HBO documentary. With my prior experience in learning about scientology, I approached it with an open mind because I wanted to learn about one of the influences of the Epsilon program. As OP mentioned they do use many basic psychology methods that can work.

Whether or not they're a benevolent force, I can't wholly say but I'll admit I'm fascinated by any alien cults, like Scientology, the unarius cult or the Raelians for that matter.

I think the movie was genius if you consider it as discussion opener or critique of religion in general, and not as "the exposed truth about scientology".

Most of the really nefarious stuff that scientology is accused of is more or less what most organized religion do - we are just so used to it, that we don't even question it, but then when "the evil cult" does more or less the same, that kind of behaviour suddenly sticks out as being "wrong" or "creepy".

Went to school next to a scientology building in Minnesota. The building was much bigger and grander than they needed, they were trying to recruit people to the cause out on the street most days. Fun theory, but from personal experience this is not my impression at all.

We're talking huge open rooms with a ceiling like literally 40 ft. up. It was extravagant and unnecessary. It was part of an old science museum.

edit: Not setup like a church, either. Looked more like a bunch of business people in there doing deskwork.

picture a bunch of professor Umbridges and that was pretty much my impression.

Oh no, I understand that and it's possible. Most people they use some of these tactics on that I've heard of were people in the film industry. That was the part I found most thought provoking of your post.

This is a really interesting take. I like your thinking. Again, idk enough about it to comment, but I know Anonymous ran an op on them, and rumor has it anonymous is CIA op,which fits nicely in with your theory. Sounds legit.

It started off as a new age religion church for a tax haven for L. Ron Hubbard and nothing more.He hated paying taxes and there is a lot of documentation this was all for him to avoid taxes, nothing more. Their version today is a totally different beast all together

Hmmmmm. Everyone who I know who left Scientology says horrible things. Not pedophile wise, but brainwash wise. My friends family took part in operation Snow White. He says the government had information Scientology didn't want them to have, and they stole it back.

He made it seem as though they brainwash the kids, to where they can't even speak right.

Yes, money. But with their version of brainwashing it's all your money for life.

Yeah, they're a fucking cult but it's all about the money.

With the election and all the weird shit in the Wikileaks release I'm sure the Scientologists are just happy they're being left alone for a bit.

Those cunts are lying low after that HBO special. Just waiting for their next move....

Read Lawrence Wright's "Going Clear". Enjoy.......

In one word: No. Scientology is a pyramid selling scam which preys on the weak through its so-called social programs like Narconon, and by recruiting people with more money than sense. As a society they have little interest in children or their welfare, and they are considered a nuisance until they are old enough to be put to work in the Sea Org.

r/titlegore

It turns out you can just put words in any order you want to and it's acceptable on this sub

people saying L ron hubbart was a pedo he had an island with underage girls on it

If you work backward from Hubbard it leads to Parsons in OTO who leads to Crowley. Really not that difficult to see.

Scientology is likely just a tax haven. Donate money, pay less taxes.

Really? Ask Wesley snipes or Chris Tucker how tax evasion worked out for them.

Scientologists stand to go to prison for quite some time if they're caught.

Scientologists stand to go to prison for quite some time if they're caught.

Which makes you wonder, why scientology then? Why not just start a drug empire or some other criminal operation if money is the only end game.
Not going to jail could be a legitimate reason, but if scientologists will go to prison too, why not make the money in some way where you won't be branded as a grade-a nutcase by mainstream society

What institution gets more protection and privileges than any other in this country?

Religion

Oh no, I understand that and it's possible. Most people they use some of these tactics on that I've heard of were people in the film industry. That was the part I found most thought provoking of your post.

Went to school next to a scientology building in Minnesota. The building was much bigger and grander than they needed, they were trying to recruit people to the cause out on the street most days. Fun theory, but from personal experience this is not my impression at all.