What's more, there's currently some kind of astroturfing campaign hitting the WikiLeaks subreddits: there is simultaneously a rush of low-value posting and irrelevant links being pushed while questions regarding the whereabouts of the organization's leader and ideological center are being downvoted as conspiratorial murmurings.

I'm not yet willing to totally commit myself to the working theory that he's been ghosted away for "enhanced" interrogation, but there's an effort to disrupt any conversation about what is an immediate existential threat to the entire organization.

It doesn't make any sense that this community would be suddenly so indifferent to the plight of Assange, but then again, it doesn't really make sense that the subreddit managed to vet and install something like seven new trustworthy moderators right around the time that the man disappeared.

The discussion remains controlled and we haven't seen the man in any verifiable, "proof of life" capacity. There is a low resolution picture with no data tied to a weird private twitter profile and nothing more.

After 2016 so far, I would be very happy to learn that rumors of his death have been greatly exaggerated.

edit: The "conspiracy" regarding Julian's disappearance so far.

edit 2: On Nov 18, WikiLeaks moderator Here4Popcorn put up this thread and it is still an ongoing example of a community totally at odds with a rogue mod. Numerous calls for his removal.

The whole thing creeps me out. I don't usually get too attached to any particular "conspiracies", but I've been watching this very closely since the night his Internet connection was severed and I still have a bad feeling.

Agreed.

Oh oh! I member

The astroturfing started soon after the crowd sourcing on the podesta emails caught traction. It was less obvious then with new dumps every day because it just looked like people that were late to the party.

There is a low resolution picture with no data tied to a weird private twitter profile

wait what? link?

I was mistaken about the account being private, but here you go: https://twitter.com/mangazos/status/799367352060100608

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Brilliant! Have an up vote.

Also it allows TPTB to monitor the wikileaks tor exit nodes and find whistleblowers. They will keep him in limbo as long as possible.

Fuck, is this the beginning of digital face generation for large scale deception? If they really kidnapped him, they could scan his whole body and use him quite literally as a puppet in the digital world, and possibly as a hologram in the real world too. A few people said things like, "I want off this planet," after hearing about pizzagate, but this is the type of shit that makes me want out: impersonation. Creepy tech is creepy. And it totally could be happening already and we have no clue. Robots, man. Toasters.

Woah. I know kung fu.

This was posted in this sub a few days ago but if any thread requires it's mention it's this one.

https://youtu.be/_sbT3_9dJY4?t=899

watch his left eye at the 18:05-15:10 mark (exactly 15:08)

don't even need to slow it down or mess with settings to spot this anomaly, at exactly 15:08 there is some bizarre bulging/postprocessing fisheye type of effect going on with his left eye

it honestly kind of reminds me of the live video editing that was being passed around here a bit ago. the glitch seemed similar.

Decepticons

Toasters man...

How exactly do the exit nodes function?

Disclaimer: I only know enough about it to know I'm probably wrong about something.

The tor network preserves anonymity by (theoretically) ensuring that each node in the relay only knows the last node the link came from, and the next one it is going to. The entry node is the only one that knows where the message came from and the exit node is the only one that knows where it is going. If we assume TPTB control a fair amount of entry and exit nodes, they can perform what is called a traffic correlation attack. Wikileaks could have combated this by A) only accepting traffic from trusted exit nodes (possibly owned and operated by wikileaks) B) frequently changing the IP of the proxy server receiving leaks or C) some combination of the two.

IF I am right that wikileaks was operating trusted exit nodes, or that they found a way to effectively hide their IP, then the coup will allow TPTB to know when a message is received by wikileaks, and likely, where it came from.

PGP will still likely protect the content of the message (the inability of wikileaks to sign press releases with their public key in the recent past is evidence of this), but knowing when and where a leak originated certainly helps narrow down the list of possible suspects.

Could such a system be undermined by adding a lot more entry and exit nodes? Get a lot more people on TOR, people who don't work for the government, too many entry nodes for the government to track.

Of course it doesn't work if wikileaks only accepts traffic from certain exit nodes, or if NSA malware is on so many computers that even people running innocent entry/exit nodes are unwittingly running monitored nodes.

Yes. I agree!

Too true, and to continue the analogy, Schroedinger's Embassy Cat is both in the building and a "could not be found" 404 Error, simultaneously.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5dldnh/i_hope_assanges_cat_in_a_tie_wasnt_some_sick_404/

Excellent point, and Snowden is conveniently accessible.

Glad you brought this up, nobody else seems to find it odd that Snowden is suddenly back in the spotlight.

Not really, he hasn't gone anywhere

True, and the movie release will keep him alive for decades.

Tbf he's kinda relevant to the conversation of leaks and technology run amok.

Excellent counterpoint.

I think Snowden is a limited hangout.

especially with people asking Trump to pardon him, covering up the pardoning of Julian Assange. Its fucked.

There are many suspect issues around Snowden. Mostly that he "was" in an alphabet agency, then in Hollywood. Such horseshit.

now they're talking about assassinating him.

which is more proof that they won't. It's like crying wolf about suicide. If you're gonna, you don't call people and tell them. N'est pas?

He's absolutely limited hangout. How else are the NSA going to normalize spying on their citizens if not through a techy-handsome dude that is "pro-Ron Paul"?

Right? With a weird pair of cyber glasses, with a missing pad on one side. Ugh

Crackerjack!

Brilliant Discovery ol' chap!

Astute observation! Why do we need a figure-head at this point? Why not rally behind the truth he represents and the martyrdom of people who have gotten us this far?

Let's open the door where he's alive. Let's do this consciousness exercise together. Repeat after me: "He's alive"

I believe!

we can't create his reality , especially without his help.

Agreed.. they didn't want to announce his capture or death around the election or it would've made a martyr of him. They'll try to stick sexual assault charges on him, use the now-compromised wikileaks twitter to discredit his legacy with bad information, and then announce his (((suicide))).

His suicide being made all the more credible by the release of his psych test. But surely any death.. even natural causes would be like lighting a fuse on a truth bomb for all of us. I'd have thought itd be less suspicious to have him brainwashed or blackmailed and used as a puppet for their propoganda machine. Is there any news on his wife n kids? Are they ok? Im worried about all of them.

THIS. They always accuse of some ridiculous crime then "suicide" reminds me of A.S. (rip)

Too many people suspect him dead that they can't pull the fake video bin Laden stuff this time. They released one and the suspicion just grew.

Maybe they'll make it more sophisticated this time. There's just as much, if not more on the line.

Schroedingers embassy cat?

That is correct.

If he has been taken away - we will never ever see a body.

They can't just release him back - it's too late - too much has occurred. No matter what is happening, we will never see him again - that's my guess. I'd love to be proven wrong.

Nope he's most definitely dead

I say we make him a martyr until proven otherwise.

If he's dead it is going to take lots of digging to find out, because if Assange turned up dead everyone would know the elites are panicking and someone has the book of pedophile names. and we would find that book.

The more we keep digging, the more I fear that this subreddit and the people involved with exposing will wind up missing or dead. Its only a matter of time before it happens ...

I feel like this sub has some people that you wouldn't want to try to suicide, myself included. If we go out into their world, they can make up anything they want about the circumstances of our untimely demise, but if they come to us I am willing to bet that the people in this sub have deadman switches and home defense that would really rain on a death-squad's parade

Exactly why it's like this. You're right.

Assange is Big Brother. Still gonna say stuf on the telly in 200 years from now... but by then, history and time will have been over so it doesn't matter!

Not sure if serious.

The uncertainty principle

The point is that this situation is not a parallel of Schroedinger's cat. There are people, however few they may be, that know of JA's whereabouts.

It is a fruitful metaphor. Especially when you consider that "paradoxically", when we finally do make a concrete observation, it will very much appear to have revisionist effects on history and the "superposition" will collapse: if he's been dead this whole time following torture, our reading of WikiLeaks' output since October will be very different than how we would read it if we discover that the man is fine and still housed in the embassy.

Uncertainty breeds dissonance and conspiracy (sometimes rightly) ... both Mr. Assange and those who would "disappear" him realize that this uncertainty is a tool. The man has used his own absence in the past, though that is unlikely to be the case now.

I can appreciate your post in the metaphorical sense. This is why I wasn't sure how to respond in my first post.

There are some who are trying to get answers, right now it's by voting JA Time's POTY:

http://time.com/4570597/person-of-the-year-readers-poll-results-2016/

We can't verify the legitimacy of any WL leaks after Oct. 17 until we verify JA's whereabouts. I personally think it's unlikely we'll ever see him again.

They wont allow him to win... Think of the shitstorm that would cause

I've been in psychic contact with Embassy Cat, he told me Assange is doing fine, nothing to worry about.

squints I've seen you hanging around on the other subs. you're a bot, aren't you.

No.

cat : 'bring treats'

I'm about to bail on this subreddit.

I know it's ridiculous here. How many different assange threads will we completely waste our time with.

Go infiltrate the higher echelons that way you'll know you aren't wasting your time. Be warned, you will have to do some very bad things.

Or you could help create an independent society away from all this nonsense. Lead by example.

How exactly do the exit nodes function?

Fuck, is this the beginning of digital face generation for large scale deception? If they really kidnapped him, they could scan his whole body and use him quite literally as a puppet in the digital world, and possibly as a hologram in the real world too. A few people said things like, "I want off this planet," after hearing about pizzagate, but this is the type of shit that makes me want out: impersonation. Creepy tech is creepy. And it totally could be happening already and we have no clue. Robots, man. Toasters.