The truth and the internet are going to continue on with or without Reddit. Even if it means that its users leave because the admins decided to show their cards.

Happened with Digg; time for Reddit to die a slow, deserved death.

Reddit can't die fast enough, it's going to continue sucking the air out for any alternatives.

Even if it means that its users leave because the admins decided to show their cards.

What are you waiting for? They already have.

PizzaGate and the truth are tow mutually exclusive items.

I know, man. I'm not saying any of you broke any rules.

What I am saying is that roadblocks are put up for a reason.

But there's always a detour if you're willing to look for it.

And you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free

The truth is that reddit is permanently compromised and has been ever since the community gave the mandate to shutdown "fatpeoplehate". The reddit community simply cannot handle and does not deserve freedom of speech.

You do not have freedom of speech on this website.

Wait. What? Who makes this decision?

Mind-blowing times, people.

Interesting.

When these mods come down on a subreddit, is a mod ID'd by name? Is this the govt. squashing independent research? Might they try something similar here on r/conspiracy?

Obviously the global pedophile crowd has infiltrated almost everywhere. But there are still far far fewer of them than people who think they are fucking sick. More people are learning of this by the day. Truth tsunami will prove hard to stop, I think.

Admins, not mods.

Might they try something similar here on r/conspiracy?

If we ever got together and actually were on to something you bet your ass they would.

Crowd-sourced investigations are one of the most effective ways at uncovering things.

We should have a monthly target of a politician long suspected at shady dealings and expose their shit.

I too remember when reddit caught the Boston Bomber

And I too remember how much Reddit loves trotting out this line--repeatedly--as a deterrent for crowd investigation.

What's your point? Why wouldn't people on reddit use a famous example of a reddit crowd investigation turning into a witch hunting mob to deter more of them from happening?

Because it infers we should all sit back and let "the authorities" handle things. Or sit back and wait for another institution to protect us. It infers we should passively accept another body to tell us the conclusions of an investigation, or trust that "if it was a big deal, our government would be doing something about it."

When in actuality, our authorities aren't going to do shit about stopping pedophilia at the highest levels. They gain more from perpetuating things like child trafficking for the sake of having useful blackmail.

Frankly, what happened during the Boston Bombing was the most ridiculous overstep of the executive branch that I'd seen in a long time. They declared Marshal Law and shut down an entire city like a fascist government, all to pursue two dipshits who made crude explosives that anyone could make if they owned a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook.

No, it infers you should be wary of mob mentality. It says nothing of authorities.

And witch hunts. So many examples of witch hunts throughout U.S. history, almost all of which were drawn out by mob mentality - and which are so much easier now that things spread faster and it's easier to expose private information. Yet Reddit continues to ignore this history.

Is it really surprising that a sub leaking personal and private information related to still unfounded accusations of child sex slavery (an accusation you REALLY don't want to make lightly) was banned, especially given the old boston bomber thing?

This.

I don't know... have you seen True Detective?

But seriously, this is a terrific idea.

They're shutting this down because Comet Ping Pong made RL reports to the FBI and police about harassment and death threats to its owner and employees from members of communities like this one. I don't know what else you expect in this scenario.

I suggest taking whatever evidence has been assembled to a reputable independent media outlet, like Propublica (nonprofit, funded by donations, focuses totally on investigative journalism). They'll tell you whether there's actually a case worth investigating further, or whether you are engaging in wild speculation. And they have the expertise to actually investigate properly.

This subreddit and others like it are historically not much good at putting together coherent arguments that aren't based on wild speculation, though, which is the main problem with trying to do that (admittedly, that's the tradition and intent of 'conspiracy' communities - problems arise when wild speculation is taken to be equivalent to fact, though).

I'm betting at least 5000 anonymous tips have been sent to the fbi about this child pedo ring and no action was taken. All of a sudden a rich guy files one complaint and it gets scrubbed from the internet. Shows who rules the justice system. Its all compromised.

Given probable cause, they'd hopefully open an investigation. They would not reveal this investigation publicly until conclusions have been reached (this is standard FBI policy).

Unsubstantiated anonymous tips are not probable cause (even if there are 5000 of them - 5000 unsubstantiated anonymous internet tips are not much different from one of them) - however, some of the circumstantial evidence here might be enough to convince officials of probable cause. That's up to them, really. If they are investigating anything, we won't know about it until there's a conclusion.

Death threats and harassment to employees are immediately demonstrable and, in sufficient numbers and severity, demand an immediate response from law enforcement. Which is what you're seeing here. (Though, to be sure, Comet Ping Pong is probably gaining some substantial advantage in law enforcement attention because of the owner's apparent connectedness and influence in DC, and that's not especially fair.)

If you're concerned about possible burying of a crime by law enforcement and government, then going through reputable independent media [like Propublica, as I mentioned above] may be your next-best-bet for drawing wider mainstream attention to the issue.

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Or, as someone who doesn't browse here, whenever shit like this goes down, links to it get posted in more popular subs.

I've assumed from the very beginning that it was/is compromised.

RL reports?

It's probably a part of a system where they force people I/e politicians, CEOs etc... to commit heinous crimes as a way for the collective group of rich/powerful to control their activities or face revealing the crimes they were told to commit. I mean it's pretty genius and probably even changed over time to turn into a perceived right of passage instead of the obvious blackmail to the point people are wanting to do the shit.

This is exactly how it works. For example, convicted pedo Dennis Hastert: CIA knew about his dealings since ever, and the chief of the CIA actually bugged the town home that he lent him rent-free. All sorts of stuff was recorded there that never saw the light of day, until the problem became too big to ignore over a decade later.

The CIA/FBI's holding onto pedo acts of politician is like hoarding cash for a rainy day. And with that mentality, why would they let the public loot their bank account?

Exactly this! And it has probably been going on for centuries.

Do you think that in the Arab world anyone cares if a politician rapes a kid? Centuries ago the world resembled them more then it resembles us.

What Arab world are you referring to? Saudi Arabia? I agree. But don't generalize, because I'm sure the Arabs give way more fucks about all types of shit than us. What a stupid comment.

Just Saudi Arabia? But in Siria they would? And Iraq, and Afghanistan? These are places where a little girl gets raped and has to hide the fact for fear of being stoned to death. Where the chief of police responds to accusations of his officers raping boys with "when they were young they got it too and now it's their turn".

Do you think no one sees this?

You have some awakening to do, spewing out bullshit against Arabs as if they're some savage race. You've been lied to my friend, and now you're doing the spreading of lies for your masters like a good doggy.

Percent of rapes in America per 100k 25-30% Percent of rapes in Syria per 100k 0.5%-0.8% Percent of rapes in Lebanon per 100k 0.5%-1.0% Also, Afghanis aren't Arab.

Don't you dare try to act like France, England, Australia, US or any western country isn't a 1000 times more atrocious than pretty much every other nation on the planet. Assassinations, false flags, drug trafficking, child trafficking, ridiculous amounts of pedophilia, murder of millions and millions of people, brainwashing and experimentation on its own citizens and you're sitting here talking about Arabs being savages? Arabs who aren't able to advance with the rest of society because they're too busy getting bombed to the stone age over their resources? Wake up.

A lot of Arabs really dislike blood magic, though.

Nope. Love blood magic

Nope, love hasty generalizations

Is it a generalization?

When I was reading up on Saddam's blood Quran, there was a huge amount of dislike evident - not all of it angry, a lot simply saying they would never trust anyone who would commission something like that.

Magic, even without blood is haram. That carries weight with every fundamentalist Muslim I've ever spoken with.

And if you're saying that it's a generalization to say that there are a lot of fundamentalist Muslim Arabs, then I really don't know what to do.

Wtf are you talking about when you say the word magic?

Broadly; rites, rituals and practices meant to invoke mythological entities.

:)

I don't really understand the mirth.

Better to smile than start making fun of your beliefs

I didn't say I believe in magic - but it exists as practice and undertaking that practice (whether or not it has any effect) can alter the opinion of a minority of people, more in fundamentally religious circles.

I replied to a conversation about ways for 'deep politics' entities to control politicians through proof of pedophilia that would destroy their reputation if revealed. Someone had expressed that some people might be able to rationalize the pedophilia. I pointed out that sizable factions of the population who may be able to rationalize the pedophilia with fundamentalism would have more trouble doing so with the inclusion of blood magic rituals in the equation.

Personally, I don't think it's wise to assume the beliefs of people and use those as a reason to adopt a smug and intellectually superior attitude, but I guess it's a free world. I've got to ask, though - what's the point in commenting at all if you're not actually interested in the conversation? Is it the sense of superiority?

Sure, call it a sense of superiority over people that believe the 0.0000001% chance that something in the realm of "magic" exists. I'm superior over the mathematically illiterate I suppose.

To repeat, because you're clearly dense:

Magic as in a supernatural force people can control, a la Harry Potter is not real.

Magic as a set of rites and rituals which have historically been performed in an attempt to invoke supernatural forces does exist, even though it has no effect.

There are a significant amount of people who view performing those rites and rituals as a reason to mistrust someone.

So yes, I do think it's a sense of superiority, and only earned by ascribing beliefs to me which I don't have.

I'd hope I'm wrong of course but in our world it's best to not put anything past people.

I forget where but I read that scopolamine or devil's breath is used to drug people in power and then they are coerced into doing horrible things that are then filmed and used as blackmail to control them and their decisions

this exactly plus there is regrouping already citizensinvestigates i think

I heard that was shut down

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/

try this the volume is very heavy but its a nice hang

Ive been waiting for voat to finally take off for soo long now. Hopefully they will be able to deal with the traffic this time

today is the test but it is holding up so far ok alot of people on the pg over there

yeah after i posted this i realied that

mofos

its was an infant they kilt it ;0

bastards

i know truly subverting americans

I think they just try to protect the reddit name since it's so popular (and makes them money). When articles talking about "reddit and 4chan users harassing comet pizza" then reddit starts shuttin down the subreddits to show that reddit isn't responsible. They aren't trying to censor anything other than negative press,

THIS!

Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't going away. Elvis

It is because Boston investigation lead to horrible aftermath.

It's probably because a guy posted child porn directly on the sub. It was a reasonable decision IMO.

For doxxing Alefantis

Well that is a stupid reason then. Fuck that guy.

Wait what?! Can you explain wtf happened?

The guy said he hacked into We The Pizza's website and found videos of kids being raped. Then, supposedly to prove it, he posted pictures of the videos. Didn't look at them but hey were confirmed child porn.

Why the fuck would you post the videos to prove it? That's super fucked up. Makes me sick to my stomach.

The guy was either stupid or trying to shut the place down.

So then, he just literally posted child pornography and just claimed he found it on a pizza place a bunch of redditors and channers are claiming is a pedophile network?

You would think that r/conspiracy of all places would actually ask for, you know, more proof than just hearsay and "cause-I-said-so", but now they'll believe anything.

So then, he just literally posted child pornography and just claimed he found it on a pizza place a bunch of redditors and channers are claiming is a pedophile network?

Basically.

You would think that r/conspiracy of all places would actually ask for, you know, more proof than just hearsay and "cause-I-said-so", but now they'll believe anything.

People didn't necessarily believe him.

https://voat.co/v/conspiracy welcomes your posts

honestly fuck reddit might have to use voat and 4chan again

I'm not sure but I hear 4chan is compromised and they've moved onto 8chan.

Everything is compromised.

We are all slaves to the holographic reptilian meme world

The dankest timeline.

Shit! I thought dank was good!

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it's better to assume all platforms are compromised in some way or form

It's also safe to assume that at any given time there are multiple botnets scraping sites like reddit.

hell, i'm just a normal simp, and i have bots scraping reddit..

Lol what about word of mouth? Smoke signals? Radio (can be spied on but not censored (unless violently enforced)?)?

Including your brain right cabby even trust that I bet

You aren't being skeptical your being paranoid

learn english and finish your sentences you fucking simp.

Dude Swype mistakes are a thing how can I be a simp if I'm single? Isn't that the opposite of a simp?

go google simp you clown.

Simp

•A man that puts himself in a subservient/submissive position under women in hopes of winning them over, without the female bringing anything to the table.

•A man that puts too much value on a female for no reason .

•A man that prides himself with "Chivalry" in hopes of getting sexual gratification form women .

•A square with no game other than “Rolling out the Red-Carpet” for every female.

no u

I'll agree

Sincere question - what do you mean by "compromised"?

As in it's been infiltrated by govt agents?

Yes. Not just agents though. Psy ops, false information etc. Rumor is even Tor is no longer safe because intelligence agencies control the exit nodes.

I do wonder about Tor because, IIRC, it was created by US intel agencies.

Jimmy Carter said something interesting a year or so ago about keeping his messages private - he sends a USPS letter and wax seal or something. Funny

I do wonder about Tor because, IIRC, it was created by US intel agencies.

Well technically the internet itself was started in the Department of Defense...

Which is why Russia still uses typewriters

If you've heard of a tv show called Mr Robot I recommend you watch it. It is pretty much what is happening now as a fictional story.

What if Sam & team are writing us a playbook? You know...he witnessed his family's dealing through Arab Spring. He also channels Kubrick pretty hard because he wants us to connect to all the conspiracies and see the bigger grand picture. Or maybe I'm just as noid as Elliot and should probably take a break from the ARG and this show...but it's so fucking good!

I brought up the concern for TOR's security in r/theonion or whatever TOR's subreddit is. I got ridiculed by almost everyone, all saying pretty much saying the EXACT same thing as /u/in_the_airoplane. Honestly, I noped out of there real quick. To not recognize TOR's security vulnerabilities with an open mind on the TOR subreddits tells me one of two things, and my mind jumped to the worst of the two.

Unfortunately I deleted the post... But since that day I haven't used TOR. It was my first personal experience with (what I saw to be) invested interests pushing a narrative rather than organic discussion.

Edit: I'm not saying anything anything bad about /u/in_the_airoplane btw. I don't mean for my post to come off that way.

Oh hey, no offense taken.

I'm not a tech person in the slightest, and I remember thinking to myself, "maybe I should start learning how to browse the dark web with Tor," just to learn more about a community everybody talks about. I thought I'd check out the Silk Road even though I don't do drugs and have no intentions of doing so. It'd just be a field trip.

But then I thought, "ten bucks says that I'll end up in some FBI honeypot, accidentally click on CP through a wrong turn, and then end up on some list. Besides, if they're going to invest resources in probing specific users, it's probably those who know how to use Tor." So, I decided against it.

Then I learned about two months later I heard about the Fed's bust of the Silk Road.

I also later heard something about losing anonymity if you accidentally leave Javascript running. This added to my concern that unless you really know what the hell you're doing, you should probably stay away.

So, even though I'm not distrustful of Tor for the sole reason that it came from the military, I absolutely think one shouldn't go in there pretending they can buy whatever or browse whatever and be okay.

I came to say the same thing, but you put it better than I could have.

See, it's that kind of stuff that raises suspicions - when people turn to ridicule rather than explanation of their position. It's not like you're saying the earth is flat. You're expressing concerns that TOR may have some vulnerabilities.

An aside, what are the reasons to use TOR in general? Like, do people use it to browse their news? And if so, why? To mask their IP address?

Yup. Usually carried out by military groups, intelligence agencies, etc.

Remember when Reddit announced the "most Reddit-addicted cities" out that Eglin Air Force Base was the top, by a landslide? They since removed it since the person who posted it had no idea of the implications.

Funny shit.

Is this true? Would love to see it if it was archived.

Reddit conveniently re-routed the original blog post, but here's the thread discussing it (how meta).

TAILS OS is recommended even by Wikileaks. Supposed to be used in conjunction with TOR, digital currency like BitCoin, and especially using a VPN proxy chain. The last item is key. Don't forget to use search engines that aren't compromised. Duck Duck Go used to be good but ever since Yahoo flipped DDG isn't as reliable for true anonymity. Not because DDG flipped but because Yahoo could create backdoors as well plus it already let the govt send in surveillance web bots to scour yahoo emails. Which reminds me: avoid using outlook, yahoo, gmail, and AOL. There's more email client options than those four thankfully and always remember if you can't find something your looking for on line then aim for creating your own. Creation is the only freedom in the 21st century.

You know what the worst part of this is? People willingly allowed it to happen by saying "well I've got nothing to hide so it doesn't matter to me".

It's a classic logic fail. Everyone has nothing to hide until they do. Worse yet people don't take into consideration that your information can be fabricated to pin you to crimes you didn't commit. Transparency has to be a two way street in order to work. If the government insists they need to know every minute detail about us they we have the right to demand the same of them! Oh wait that'll happen when pigs if we're talking about the USG. Until then the principle for privacy is that if you don't want us snooping than respect our secrets too. If not then be prepared to share and share alike.

Don't forget to use PGP encryption when possible.

Will do

Why would you introduce the permanent entry gate/permanent exit node of a vpn with Tor? Even chained that undermines the mechanism that makes Tor anonymous. Definitely use Tails, though.

My apologies I don't use TOR often myself and am more comfortable working with VPN because of my job. Before I discovered TOR that was a popular MO.

I've been using searx.me as a search engine

That's one of my defaults too! Gets the job done.

I use Virtru for email. It allows me to revoke access.

Never heard of it but will look into it.

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Good question. I just started looking around for new ones myself after discovering Yahoo rolled over to illegal search and seizure. You know companies really don't have to stick their neck out. All Yahoo had to do was take a survey and ask their users if they would be okay with web bots ruffling through their email from the government. If the users say no then they can report back to USG and tell em sorry my users say they don't consent. It's in the articles of our constitution that government is made by the consent of the government. Anything less than that is tyranny.

Yeah it's been flawed for a while but what's the biggest issue is how every single modem, router, hub etc... Is also backdoored so even if you do try to encrypt anything they are able to get through it at basically a live pace.

As I see it, the NSA can access any computer, any time. If I'm to be put on some "government list" then they could do it with the snap of a finger.

My goal, however, is to get so many people talking about these issues and aware of the same stuff about which I post, that it'll be impossible to deal with all of us.

Why would you think it's only NSA? China's been doing the same thing for much much longer which is easy for them because they produce just about every single electronic which they infect with malware, backdoors, root kits, bot netted, etc... all as a present for us customers which then they use to launch large attacks against our internet in gigantic DDOS strikes. I mean people always complain about the US government but really it's ALL the governments but at least most of them won't do half the shit China does to it's people or the world. Seems like their job is to destroy as much of it as possible while seemingly killing all the ocean as well.

No I agree... but China and Russia have the strangely coincidental tendency to let anything negatively implicating the US see the light of day (case in point: Snowden).

No... that stuff was totally by accident.... they would never use horrible information for their own gain... To be honest though it makes you wonder how fucked we are if they were doing all that manipulation and then suddenly when trump gets the presidency it's all nice nice with russia time. Probably not something shitty going on there. Although it's about a thousand times better then letting the cuntiest cunt of all time win.

Although it's about a thousand times better then letting the cuntiest cunt of all time win.

That's pretty much how I saw it.

get so many people talking about these issues and aware of the same stuff about which I post, that it'll be impossible to deal with all of us

We could all get intentionally added to blacklists, by doing pro-ISIS google searches and stuff like that. A chrome extension could just drive your browser around to extreme but legal sites to voluntarily throw yourself under the bus. Don't delete history, don't delete cookies, fuck the feds.

That's pretty much it, and I hear it's even more pernicious in that they're ALSO capable of inserting files on your computer... like cp... as a set-up. So, if they want, an individual can be toast.

Yeah but we can't live in fear. If you really didn't know illegal content was there, you can go to jury trial and say you were politically targeted.

I don't think you're well acquainted with how anonymizing networks work.

Well no I'm not an expert and I absolutely hated my Cisco networking class but I do know the capabilities of numerous organizations to intercept information being sent or received. What we are able to do at home is not even remotely close to what the government can especially with crazy smart departments like DARPA.

Dangit they're onto us!

Edit: oops wrong tab

Finally, someone with some sense.

Everyone here works for the DoD

4chan is still good

4chan is full of shills, just for the opposite team. Definitely bots and poaters cultivating a "team".

Signed up for an account. Shits getting crazy around here... #Freedomandtruth

Dude the site is down...DDOS?

No they are just overwhelmed with new users. Its been that way for a while. It'll come back.

Go. Get the fuck out of here. Leave. Be free.

Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me, lads!

I find it hilarious you're advocating a site with a top sub for pedophiles.

Nah, Voat is a Reddit clone. From their FAQ: "Will you censor comments and submissions? While we don't necessarily approve or agree with all content that users submit to Voat, our policy is to not meddle and not censor content unless said content is illegal in the United States."

Edit: Mobile app, 4.1 stars https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.SpaceMonkey.Boats&hl=en

Type voat into google. You get /v/youngladies at the top. A sub for pedophiles that was created after /v/jailbate got banned. Enjoy the company over their, mate.

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Request removal of what?

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The entire sites purpose is to be open and unregulated. It's not getting removed. The only reason /v/jailbait was removed was because he was legally enforced to do so.

Fair enough. I don't know what the answer to this stuff is. Maybe per-post or per-comment reporting and removal, rather than ever losing a whole sub?

There is no answer. Just know you're advocating for a site full of pedophiles and open racists.

Fuck, you're BSing me. Is it sexualized but clothed teenagers? I didn't check the sub you mentioned. I don't care for that type of content, but it is legal. I'm okay with all distasteful but legal content if that's how you get a censorship free site.

Reddit is a goddamn cesspool too you know.

You're a pedophile apologist. Lmao.

Whatever legal is legal, draft some legislation, enjoy your censorship. I will send you Pizzagate updates unless you want to wait around for Fox to report on it.

How is that relevant? I'm just telling you you're advocate for a website full of pedophiles. Sorry you default into copy and paste arguments when you don't have a retort.

I'm okay with quasi-guilt by association in certain circumstances I guess. This is a dirty war. /v/conspiracy is legit.

war

Cringe.

You're literally a pedophile apologist calling other people pedophile apologists...

Define apologist, loon.

Dude you said it was impossible for children to be trafficked in the US so the Dojo Pizza rapist couldn't be guilty. You're apologizing for a rapist. You also said Jeffrey Epstein was just a misunderstood child educator. Pretty creepy bro.

I've said neither of those things. Nice strawman fallacy. You're too dumb to hold an argument. Accept the L and move on, loser.

Arent they called Reddit Admins?

Yeah it must be a typo

Mods or Admins?

Why?

I feel like the whole world is falling down.

Did they explain their reasoning?

What's the reasoning behind the ban?

CONDE NAST

Why wouldn't they do it?

No. Reddit ADMINS are banning it.

New community for pizzagate here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate

Also, check out the wayback machine for archived information for reference.

Better to not rely on wayback machine - it mysteriously "malfunctioned" when trying to view Alefantis' instagram.

Not the first time things have disappeared from there over the years.

Yup. A bunch of mod messages that were screen capped for the shit they said has disappeared from a lot of the site. Guess even those super mods have friends there too

It's better to use archive.is instead of archive.org (the wayback machine).

Conservatives (UK political party current in power in the UK) actually got their site removed from that IIRC.

Archive of r/pizzagate:

https://archive.fo/https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/*

Archive of 8 and 4chan investigation:

http://pastebin.com/UwEUyauy

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Voat is doing maintenance

New conspiracy, Voat is owned by reddit and used to break up certain groups by banning them here and sending people there. But then when the migration happens its under heavy load/down and fragments the group even more. People say fuck it and move on

naah. the voat.co guy is just one guy, he's probably on a $5 vps or something and gets the reddit hug of death.

I'll eventually code up a new reddit with blackjack and hookers just you wait. It'll also be able to scale horizontally effectively by using a fleet of node servers behind an nginx reverse proxy.

async await baby!

Voat has been having issues with a particular bug. This bug will turn the website off for roughly 30 seconds, sometimes longer or shorter. The admins have been trying to track it down but have been unsuccessful so far.

As a developer, lmao. Fucking aye. I never understood how people can just maintain services where they "turn off for minutes at a time with no idea why". What the fuck kind of site did you build if that happens and you don't even have some sort of logging or stacktrace that you can look at to fix it?

Its one guy on a cheap vps and he copied the open source reddit source code, modifying slightly how it looks. He has no idea how any of it works.

reddit planted bug then

In theory yeah, but in this instance I don't think THESE people are gonna say fuck it and move on.

There were many options considered for a new home even before the shutdown.

If anything, this might help thin out the shills, CTR, nonparticipants and concern trolls for just a moment. They have the whole sub backed up so they are able to get right back to work.

But it will move them out of the spotlight. Theyd hit r/all every so often and bring in new interested people. Sure they had shills and such but it kept it growing. Out of the spotlight this will die away.

I actually think reddit has used its community bans in order to sabotage potential competitors by sending its most vile users to those competitors.

Wouldn't be hard to solve.

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That site is down now.

It has been doing that. Retry a few times.

Same problems, different name.

It would be better to use something uncensorable and preferably anonymous.

Maybe zeronet, or steemit?

Zeronet can't be stopped. Has its own issues tho. Need a good PoW posting system there like bitmessage has.

Would you recommend anything better?

Zeronet is as good as it gets. The developers actively making it better as well

You have to make Linux voodoo to run it in a tablet/smartphone. Most people browsing internet use those nowadays. They will have to make it easier

I guess the PoW would be to counteract paid shills and bots?. I wish they can come up with a perfect solution, I don't even know if it's feasible

You can run a secured zeronet proxy at home and connect through it on your phone. It's not too hard if you've basic knowledge of port forwarding.

How about just installing an app? That's the only way I could see it gain adoption. Right now it is way too complicated

I'd rather install by running it on Linux on my tablet/phone, it looks a less complicated setup. I don't think that's possible on iPad/iphones. And also being p2p means lots of battery and data.

I've seen a webpage that acts as a front end. If that's secure enough, it could be an easier way for phones/tablets. Or apps could connect directly to a server like this running it

Anyway it looks promising but it must get much easier and mobile friendly to recommend it to non IT people: https://youtu.be/Fc1P-AEaEp8

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Taking a break from criticizing Jews... learned about this... I'll go back to criticizing Jews.

This is internet beauty.

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Who makes this decision?

Pedophiles? At the very least, people interested in protecting pedophiles.

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Rule 10 man. If you can't control yourself, find a new sub. First warning.

Probably, say, the owners of a private company called Reddit, who are free to do as they please. Why is that so mind-blowing? Users of Reddit are not entitled to anything being offered. People who are unhappy are free to leave the platform. If enough leave, Reddit will cease to exist.

Reddit admins, because the sub was doxing people.

Pizza gate is disinformation.

its true....i saw it with my own eyes. people eating babyies there.

It's down. It really got shutdown.

r/pizzagate/

Funny how this is organized in time with mainstream media's push to demonize "fake news". Pizzagate was the subject of a particularly juvenile attempt from NYT.

Yep! "Fake news" is being pushed as a narrative in our culture so fucking hard right now because of Pizzagate.

My thoughts exactly. about a week ago this fake news narrative started getting pushed by EVERYONE in the msm. And to be fair much of what they're pointing to IS fake news.

The point is to prime people with this "fake news" label so that when this pizza stuff breaks they can label it fake news and the mainstream listeners roll with it.

That! ^

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This comment is so far beyond stupid that it will take the light from "stupid" several decades to get there.

If there are very troubling allegations being made, based upon a pile of circumstantial evidence, the solution is to ask more questions and seek more information, not to shut the whole discussion down.

If someone is presenting things as being factual when in reality they are not, the solution is to prove them wrong, using facts, not to shut the whole discussion down.

The fact that people of power and influence would choose to simply shut down any discussion of a controversial matter rather than exposing it to the light of day, examining it thoroughly, and demonstrating--using facts, not simply the bare assertion "nuh uh, not true, because we said so"--why the allegations being made are false, suggests that they do really have something to hide.

"The remedy for bad speech is more speech, not enforced silence."
-- Justice Louis Brandeis

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It really pisses me off. People should know how to differentiate between fake news and real news.

I don't want a Ministry of Truth that decides what is fake and what isn't.

People don't, though. Hence Facebook is full of dummies sharing infographics about how eating apples cures heart disease because it is vaguely shaped like a heart.

To the main streamers, that is exactly what Snopes.com is.

Ok Orwell.

Lol, do you not see a problem with how information is fed to the mainstream?

We already live in an Orwellian society, where we are told to think and feel a certain way and when our thoughts or beliefs shy away from this, we are told we are crazy or out of touch with reality.

Do I think that a lot of people get carried away with conspiracies?

Yes.

Do I think our mainstream information sources are tainted and have MASSIVE amounts of power to sway the general consensus any way they want?

Also, yes.

There is an issue with media but I don't think a government run organization is going to help.

I don't think a government run organization would either... maybe we there is a miscommunication here.

The OP was saying they didn't want a government run organization dictating what is truth and what isn't.

While I don't doubt there are people pushing it for that reason, I'm also pretty sure a lot of it is the left continuing to grasp at any possible reason for losing the election that doesn't include themselves doing anything wrong. Pretty much being useful idiots.

Yup. My ex sent me an email yesterday warning me about Russian meddling and distribution of Russian propaganda, and a website yesterday called "propornot".

It's aim is to help the reader determine what is fake news. It listed a bunch of news sites like RT and the like.

The website is brand new.

Hilarious that it lists Wikileaks, with it's evidenced and hashed-by-Google-themselves actual email leaks and the like. Can't NOT be real.

The Dem tribal alloplastics are rather frustrating to watch. They won't change anything about themselves to win, no. Too many of them won't even consider the possibility that they have anything they should change. It's got to have been someone else's fault.

The real problem will be: who decides what news is considered "fake" or not?

At that point any host can call any factually based opposition agenda fake.

Do you understand what the "fake news" debacle was about? It was about random, no-name websites posting made-up stories like "Hillary Indictment Confirmed by FBI" or "Pope Endorses Trump" to drive adsense revenue to their page. It's not like they're talking about Fox or Breitbart (even though those sites journalistic integrity are pretty moot.)

It's pretty clear people here do not understand that

I get that it is mostly in combat of clickbait articles, but it creates a very slippery slope of censorship.

Well you can't get more fake than reddit

I saw that, they're trying to put tinfoil on our heads

My tinfoil was already present.

You guys put that tinfoil on your heads yourselves. The sub looked like a caricature of a Above Top Secret forum. Next time, people need to protect their asses by strictly sticking to the facts.

You are limiting your potential using only one side of your brain. If not from me take it from Einstein:

“I never made one of my discoveries through the process of rational thinking.”

“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”

"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."

"Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere."

"To raise new questions, new possibilities, to regard old problems from a new angle, requires creative imagination and marks real advance in science."

Using your imagination = hypothesizing

There is no way to hold an investigation while "strictly sticking to the facts", in order to stick to facts there have to be facts which require investigation. Some leads are false. That shouldn't mean we get our investigation taken out.

I put on my robe and tin foil hat

Do they not understand that this makes us believe it EVEN MORE?!?!? What are they trying SOOOO HARD to hide? We will find you, fuckheads!!

They aren't talking to US. They're talking to the people we are trying to reach.

Yes..THIS! it's not about people like us who actually put forth in research, but the everyday Joe & Jane who is already 90% brainwashed by the MSM

If they successfully hide from almost everyone, while being found only by "crazies" on the internet, they've successfully hid from everyone that matters. Conspiracies of silence need not to silence everyone. They need only silence everyone whose credibility they cannot destroy. This does lead to the occasional major error, but relying on that is relying on luck.

More lies are already being told about the pizzagate sub now that it is no longer visible to check them.

Funny how this is organized in time with mainstream media's push to demonize "fake news". Pizzagate was the subject of a particularly juvenile attempt from NYT.

Its timed with a reddit sub being used to organize harassment of a perfectly innocent pizza place

Nothing surprising about it being banned

Dang, wow. This only adds more credence to the theory, in my eyes...

Dang, wow. This only adds more credence to the theory, in my eyes...

Agreed, M7.

Do the podcasts.

They were doxxing people left and right and harassing them. This isn't a conspiracy it's a subreddit deliberately breaking the rules of this website over and over.

The reddit admins are in on it!

It was an enitre subreddit dedicating to documenting and releasing peoples personal information, pedophile or not thats not something allowed anywhere on reddit.

How is it not at all a witch hunt? Don't get me wrong, there could be something there, but there's nothing that proves that it isn't just people on Reddit going out of their way to harass and ruin someone's life and livelihood just because they own a pizza place and a lot of democrats like pizza. I mean that's pretty much as witch hunty as it can get, which absolutely violates Reddit terms. This shouldn't be remotely surprising that it got removed for violating one of Reddits only big rules

Why? They got shut down because people were witch hunting and posting personal information on there. People being shut down for breaking the rules does not mean they were right.

Then delete the personal information, not the whole fucking subreddit

The mods were warned multiple times to get their shit together. They either refused, or were unable to do so. So the community got shut down. Besides, the entire sub was a witch hunt, which is not allowed.

so known associations with pedophiles at pedophile locations is a witch hunt huh?

Not defending anything but all the evidence found has been circumstantial. A lot of very creepy, seemingly interconnected findings, for sure, but nothing concrete. A lot of conjecture leading to a lot of big finds, but unfortunately nothing solid.

Sounds like it warrants more investigation, not a cover up.

Exactly.

Enough to warrant an investigation, that's for sure.

fucking right, FBI needs to be all over this shit. Evil absolutely must be fought, and this shit is pure evil.

Except the FBI is part of it, they won't investigate this because it's all their buddies doing it. This isn't some offshoot thing, this is a part of the authority structure, it seems. That's the truly scary part

I think there are too many good people in the FBI to let this stand. At least I hope so.

Those people are fired or don't have enough power to make any big changes. If it were otherwise, the corruption wouldn't be persisting for decades like it has

Exactly. If an actual public investigation by authorities was being done, people might have been more inclined to leave it to the pros. But no. Nobody in any position of power did a fucking thing.

Everyone is failing us right now. That fucking retard Kanye was looking like our hero for a minute before he got carted out of the spotlight hand cuffed to a stretcher.

Fuck this world. Fuck the lazy pricks who just eat the Bullshit everyday and can't handle one single original thought.

Word, Tomy2TugsFapMaster69

"That fucking retard Kanye"

He had a legitimate mental breakdown, and you have the fucking nutsack to call him a fucking retard? Ah yes, he had to deal with the death of his mother (which he very possibly feels guilty for), but what is his opinion compared to yours, you fucking angel. You know what? Fine. Believe whatever the fuck you want. But don't be a fucking insensitive prick.

This is r/conspiracy. The question of whether it was a legitimate breakdown is considered a legitimate question. He's known to have been resistant, after all. He went handcuffed because he went unwillingly.

The insult against him was expressing frustration, not personal animus. "That idiot got caught!" essentially.

I've read enough, this shit is real. Nothing about any of it says these are normal people being misunderstood. All the code words, and associations with known pedophiles, all the sick art, and out in the open wink wink instagram shit. I want to see all of them on the end of a rope.

It would be premature to clean up with a hemp solution. It's a big pile of circumstantial evidence, but circumstantial evidence takes a long time to get beyond all reasonable doubt. I want to see all of them on spy cameras, hah.

Good to hear a voice of reason. I was a little disappointed that people actually went so far and called the comet ping pong guy and yelled into the phone they want to kill him. If the NYT was right about that. I guess it's been some kids, but still the hate, while understandable, clouded a lot of peoples judgement.

All things considered, clearly reddit got leaned on and caved. They need to protect the shareholders investment blah blah blah.

I mean the ping pong guy has sex with high officials, cooks for Hillary or at her fundraiser, and owns a cheap pizza place outside town where the Podesta Bros go for lunch. lol so absurd clearly he makes a call and his friend help, right?

So there is something onto that story, clearly. Very chilling. Well glad I witnessed it all first hand, got lost in the rabbit hole a couple times, got sick from watching all the pedo documentaries, while the belief seeped in that indeed pedos are everywhere, next door, in politics, in the church and of course it goes to the very top. Question is, does it get more likely to be a pedo, or getting a full blown pedo once you gain power? Or does the urge for power go along with the urge to fuck children?

Oh well, I start blabbering. Depressing days lately, let's go out and try to think about something nice.

The reason it got shut down is because there were people in the photos with children. They reverse image searched faces and found public record information. I guess police work is now called "witch hunt". Good to know.

It's all guesswork and random associations. There's literally no basis for any of it in anything that resembles reality.

I know half a dozen people who worked at Comet over the years, and I've been there numerous times, both while it was open and long after it closed as my friends cleaned up at the end of the night. The pizza is quite good.

So spirit cooking meetups are just random associations, got it, thanks. You are more than helpful.

So you think they would have molested the kids in front of customers? I don't care if you had pizza there. People have pizza at places the mob runs, does that mean there is no illegal activity because the pizza customers don't see it happening in the store?

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I am not a conspiracy guy. My first reaction to all this a few weeks ago was the same as yours, but I kept an open mind. There is too much put together at this point to disregard so easily. Have you seen the instagram stuff? You think that is my mental health making up little girls hands taped to a table? Or all the blatant code words? I understand where you are coming from, this is so disgusting that it makes it hard to believe, but there is more than enough for to warrant an FBI investigation.

They didn't refuse to enforce them. They were enforcing them to the very end. Even after reddit admins told them they were being banned, the rules were still enforced.

The mods were always on top of it, they would remove info on sight.

You really believe that garbage? It would have been shut down anyways even if the mods deleted every single PII post.

If the admins were trying to "silence the truth" then they would have shut this sub down years ago. Like thing this through. The admins aren't banning talking about pizzagate. They just banned that subreddit because it was breaking the rules.

Apples and oranges. You really are in the dark here. It was also breaking the "rules" in r/politics to post anything negative about HCR during the election.

You really are going against the grain here and playing the double standard. If you defend the "rules" you're politically defending pedophilia whether you like it or not. Even if you say you're not you have already taken that side.

I'm not talking about sub rules. I'm talking about sitewide rules enforced by the admins. What the hell does r/politics and clinton have to do with this? Get over it.

"Hey guys, I'm a mod over at reddit and an admin just told us the sub will be banned. Apparently we didnt do a good enough job keeping people from posting personal information. I call bullshit on that though, due to us banning that shit on sight. It would probably make sense to send people here now."

Straight from the mod.

Ban the witch hunters not the forum?

They make the mods do it. And if the mods either are unwilling, or unable to to get control of the sub, they shut down the sub. They can't have someone spending all their time focusing on cleaning up subs. That's the moderators job.

You're sounding a lot like a shill right now. Not sure if you are, but if you identified at all with the work people were doing at r/Pizzagate I doubt you would have this opinion.

I'm not at all a shill. But I don't identify with the work you were doing. I think you guys are reading way to much into something that isn't there. Just like you were with the SLC daycare. Just like you were with the podesta emails proving Clinton and co are satanists. I think there are lots of things that r/conspiracy gets right, but not these.

Did you happen to see James Alefantis' instagram page?

There were a lot of suggestive posts regarding kids/babies

I honestly think there could be something to this whole debacle, but I have been trying not to take sides because who knows, it easily could just be a misunderstanding

Just like we were with Boys Town? Just like we were with the Boston Archdiocese? Just like we were with Jeffrey Epstein? Just like we were with the Norway Scandal? Just like we were with Gary Glitter? Just like we were with Jimmy Savile?

Seriously, go fuck yourself. You're doing a severe disservice to the people you're supposedly trying to stand up for. If you don't have anything of substance to add then kindly piss off back to whatever bridge your pudgy ass crawled out from under.

Are we clear?

Where there's smoke, there's fire... so excuse me while I try and extinguish the caldera under your ass.

Oh shit. An internet tough guy. I'm shaking in my boots! Please, someone save me I'm scared!

How about you calm the fuck down a bit and read what I said. While you guys are right about some things, you are often grasping at nothing. I've yet to see any solid evidence come out of pizza gate, just a whole lot of you guys failing to prove anything.

And I've yet to see anything out of you aside from discourse.

Your agenda is clear and see through.

Keep towing that line.

You missed the twitter bomb that confirmed it.

Link? Interested.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/twittergate?full=1

I'm curious how anything about what happened with Twitter is related to pizzagate though. I mean, everyone knows there are tons of pedos out there that use the internet to spread cp, but how is it at all related to the specific pizzagate investigation? Just because you find some pedos while also trying to prove other people are pedos doesn't mean that they are.

In what way did that confirm that Clinton is a satanist...? Did you respond to the right post?

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Been wanting to call bullshit on the pic with the J'Adore L'Enfant shirt for a long time. DC has a restaurant called Cafe L'Enfant, which is named after the architect who designed Washington DC, Pierre L'Enfant. Pretty sure the man wearing the shirt is the owner or one of the investors in that restaurant. In French, I love children would be "J'adore Les Enfants" which is the correct plural form. J'Adore L'Enfant singular is clearly referring to the restaurant named after a DC hero and if you spent any time in DC you would know that. Theres also L'Enfant Plaza and guess what its not a square for holding child slave auctions.

Based on the picture he looks gay? Well DC has a pretty strong gay community which is a good thing. Its pretty irresponsible to jump to the pedo conclusion without doing even a little bit of real research into other possibilities. Feels a bit like knee jerk homophobia leading you to a false conclusion.

To clarify: I'm not saying pedophilia among the elite doesnt exist. Just want to call bullshit where I see it because allowing poorly researched circumstantial crap to stand delegitimizes all your findings.

You're just plagued by hiveminded brainwash. We can tell by the downvotes.

They probably got shut down because a guy posted child porn there.

The investigation got close enough to start turning up nasty pictures, yeah. I never saw anything posted directly to the subreddit, but it was close enough that I clicked around to a few things by accident. Closed the links, cleared my cache. I'd been trying to avoid that.

Someone directly posted child porn to the sub.

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Fat people. Pedophiles. Similar cadence and syllable count.

You may be on to something here!

there are legit pedo subs here on reddit..but pizzagate gets shut down....

legit pedo subs

No there are not.

They never once talked about pizza

We're coming for you next, /r/marijuanaenthusiasts !

Welcome to state-sponsored censorship. How? MSM is owned by corporations, same ones that lobby and install officials in the government, so, when the MSM says it's fake, its the same people running our government that say its fake.

The decision between real and "fake" news has begun.

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This may surprise you but OMG!!! KIDDIE PORN is posted to all the subs, many times, every day. The natural protocol is to delete immediately, ban the user, continue on.

If I go to r/pics and post jailbait it will get taken down and I will get banned. Will r/pics get shutdown? Of course not. It would be ludicrous to blame the sub for one user. Why is this any different?

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Then the thread was locked and the link removed. So...

There was no sharing CP in the name of vigilante justice.

The guy who did that was, as far as I and the people I've spoke with about it agree, a troll. He had no intention of there being any justice, in the end, which sets him apart from the other users.

The core of the sub itself wasn't directly involved in sharing CP.

Doesn't sound quite right to blame the sub entire for something an outsider did on the sub.

But, y'know. Opinions, man.

EDIT: Changed PC to CP. Just woke up, lads.

If people know the username of the person who put the pictures up can't reddit find them somehow? It's disgraceful that that kind of behaviour is allowed to happen on such a prominent website.

I think it was something along the lines of "u/IHaveDamningEvidence", or, "u/IveGotDamningEvidence".

Might be an archive that has his username out there, though.

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One person sharing imagines to a chorus of "Save the images! Archive them!" Is entirely different. And he said the only proof he was willing to offer at the time was images of those kids. People asked for it, man, they asked and he delivered.

I believe either a link to an archive or screenshot to be in order, here. As someone who saw this go down, I saw nothing of the sort.

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Fully agreed on that last remark. It was definitely an attempt to get the sub banned, and it damned worked, too.

Hmm. Lemme take a looksy at whether I can get my claws on some archives.

EDIT: Can't find jack using the regular tools. Not too savvy when it comes to searching for old posts, admittedly, so there's that.

This is the first post here that mentioned why the sub was banned. I had no idea they were actually sharing kiddie porn. That shit just raises other questions like "did someone do this intentionally to shut down the sub?" Who seriously thought that would be okay?!

Gonna step in here, and say that isn't exactly true.

They weren't sharing CP. There was a troll on the sub, had a story about him getting his hands on two gigs of CP from a Pizza Place's computers he and a buddy of his got into.

As a way to prove this was the case, the troll posted ten pictures in his post. This didn't prove anything, naturally, and in the end the user backed away and was, indeed, a troll.

There've been user on r/pizzagate that proposed that the guy was fully aware about the effect him posting CP on the sub could have with the sub being banned, as it had happened before or something along those lines.

This, I cannot confirm, but it certainly seems a possibility.

In the end, there was a single guy 'spreading CP' in the entire sub. That's just how it is. There's no they, here.

I hope that the one responsible is facing some kind of prosecution for sharing that kind of shit? Since when is that acceptable?

I'm not aware of anything beyond that the person in question didn't follow through with the evidence he said he had. After that, silence. Don't know whether the account was deleted or not, but, the post itself can still be found, archived. Might be a link somewhere in the thread.

Agreed on that last remark. It's unacceptable.

He didn't just back away, he was allowed to keep posting periodically for ten hours.

And there is a 'they'. The mods, who let him allow to continue posting and leading readers on and not addressing immediately.

The users of that sub who willing saved and archived his photos, the same users who asked for the proof in the first place.

And of course, the trolls themselves.

So yeah. There is a 'they' and 'they' all fucked up, either deliberately or accidently, but it was they fuck up Reddit needed to shut down that sub.

He didn't just back away, he was allowed to keep posting periodically for ten hours.

And I'm not denying that, am I?

And there is a 'they'. The mods, who let him allow to continue posting and leading readers on and not addressing immediately. The users of that sub who willing saved and archived his photos, the same users who asked for the proof in the first place.

That's not the same 'they' you were referring to in your past remarks. 'They' was used in the context of people spreading CP, which is simply untrue. It was a single guy.

And, yes indeed, proof was asked. Not Child Porn. Proof. Nobody asked for there to be links to CP, as far as I know. If you've got an archive or screenshot to prove me otherwise, be my guest.

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Just gonna point out, your first link doesn't seem to function, at least on my end.

I believe this was the second post that was made, by possibly the same guy with a different account. The descriptions have been haunting me for the past two days or so, it's disgusting that someone would just do this to 'play a joke'.

Indeed we are, and whether it's good or bad has still to be proven, but it's certainly leaning the way of the latter.

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Fuck. I had no idea. I'm glad I missed that thread. So were the mods trying to get banned?

There was no doxxing. How'd you conclude this?

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Was part of the sub. No, it most certainly wasn't a random business that was chosen. There was, in the eyes of the people who connected the dots, enough reason to do so.

It was a random business though, it had been mentioned once in one email, as far as I can tell, about someone not wanting to order from there again.

And even if it is connected in any way, they've, meaning that whole sub, has compromised every bit of legitimacy and evidence they may have gotten. They've shot themselves in the foot.

They were a complacent platform in the hosting and redistribution of that shit. That is why they got banned.

I'm fucking livid. I watched that whole thing unfold, and I wish I had been more vocal in telling people to shut that shit down immediately. There was a brief window in which they could have saved themselves, but they blew it.

I liked that sub. I spent a lot of time there. I felt like I was watching something unfold. I don't know what yet, I don't know if it was good or bad or what the fuck. But it was something.

Honestly, someone needs to reach out to those people that viewed it. That shit is fucking traumatising. I'm so mad.

r/the_donald is silent... Wont let anybody post about r/pizzagate 's closing... Something is up.

Anything posted about pizzagate, kayne, or assange gets shadow banned in /r/TheDonald... the censorship is fucking astounding.

Did you ever actually read any of the pizzagate stuff?

It was complete tinfoil hat garbage that proved absolutely nothing. People were obsessed with finding "codewords," like speculating that the word pizza meant children and because the word pizza showed up in some emails, that, somehow, meant that there was a child kidnapping and molestation conspiracy.

It's the biggest load of horseshit I've seen.

And it ignored the important stuff in the emails. The DNC colluded with major media networks. How come no one is outraged by that?

I wonder if all the pizzagate stuff is a countertroll to make Trump supporters look bad.

https://youtu.be/9itWsqzFMVo

Just a fraction of some of the things they found.

That video is a load of horseshit. How fucking gullible are you?

I've saved a fair amount of that horseshit... I've seen some terrible things that i would not save due to legality issues. The use of code words makes sense, everyone has used code words at some point. Pizza is a known cp term, you want us all to believe that everyone is truly obsessed with italian food?

As someone who is in fact truly obsessed with Italian food, yes. Yes, I do believe that people will reference pizza in their daily lives once in a while.

In my circle of friends pizza is mentioned on a daily basis. People eat a lot of pizza.

Why the fuck would you use a well known code word like cheese pizza? Do you think they went "Oh look let's use this commonly used term for child porn that people use on the internet to hide the fact that we're pedos, good idea!"

It is not only the use of the term pizza... It is how it was used. In sentences having nothing to do with food. Or emails discussing how a left handkerchief was nothing to get overly worked up about.

This is one of the more ridiculous statements I've ever seen.

"Why would pedos use pedo specific code words created to share pedo content??"

That's not what I said, I'll expand, When you are to use a a code word to hide something like that, which is a smart idea if you are, why would you use a word like "cheese pizza" which is commonly connected towards pedophilia, instead of another word that means nothing.

Except that's exactly what you said and "expanding" didn't change that.

"cheese pizza" which is commonly connected towards pedophilia

Why would you use anything else when that's exactly what you're referring to?
If you used a meaningless word... the word would be meaningless and you'd get nowhere.

Where do you think these code words come from? The people who fucking use them for their intended purpose.

Why would you use anything else when that's exactly what you're referring to?

Because there's no point in using a code word if anyone who is looking will know what it means.

You would establish a codeword in person then use that.

there's no point in using a code word if anyone who is looking will know what it means.

Except that's exactly why you use a fucking code word!! The people who know what it means, will know what you're talking about. The people who don't, will think you're talking about a pizza related map on a handkerchief. And with code words as innocuous as pizza and map, you have plausible deniability if authorities find them out.

But, yes, I'm sure people involved in international child trafficking wouldn't use a code word that is known internationally. They'd make up their own one and then wonder why none of their accomplices understands what they're saying.........

I just fucking said

You would establish a codeword in person then use that.

But, yes, I'm sure people involved in international child trafficking wouldn't use a code word that is known internationally. They'd make up their own one and then wonder why none of their accomplices understands what they're saying.........

Do you honestly not get why that idea is moronic?

If you established the codeword in person then both parties would know what the codeword was, so no you wouldn't wonder why none of your accomplices don't know what you're saying because they would understand because you told them.

So, this international paedophile ring all meet up, in person, and discuss and implement the new code word but don't stop using the old code word?

Makes sense.

Even if there was an international pedophile ring with hundreds of members, they don't all need to meet up in order to change a code word, in fact, if there was some sort of international ring, it would probably be split up into different groups like a lot of organised crime groups, and there would most definitely be many different code words used within each smaller groups.

If you established the codeword in person

I'm done with this discussion.

It would still all be done in person, just by word of mouth not some huge meeting like you said.

/r/conspiracy-level gullible

Jesus fuck THANK YOU. These people believe the "elite" pedos use the same terms that originated on fucking 4chan in order to speak in code about child fucking. WHY WOULD ANYONE TRYING TO BE SECRETIVE USE CODE WORDS LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER VISITED 4CHAN WOULD IMMEDIATELY DECODE? Fuck me, the entire pizzagate thing destroyed my brain cells.

Man, when this pizzagate stuff first broke thedonald had a mod shuffle and the pizza stuff was purged from the front page.. one of the top posts had an edit saying "don't focus on the pizza stuff, focus on ____" (the DNC leaks, the foundation, whatever). This just sounds like another one of those posts.

People are outraged about the DNC leaks. And plenty has come from that.

But there's no reason people can't investigate the weird ties that are coming up with pizza gate.

Your concern (trolling?) concerns me.

Sources?

I wandered in there, wasn't terribly impressed with their evidence. The twitter pedo-ring that got found out was more realistic than the pizzagate shit.

There isn't huge outrage at the media collusion because it's been going on for decades. You can trace true media collusion as far back as FDR at the very least.

Read: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1433287

Did YOU ever read it? Go back and read through everything they have. It's significantly more developed than the majority of the stuff on here.

The collusion is a separate topic and it's not getting ignored. As for the tinfoil hat comment, you might want to change your world view a bit.

Did you not see the picture that the owner of the pizza place posted on instagram of a girl under 5 I would guess with her hands tied up?

That alone is pretty fucking weird/sadistic.

I did read it and it's very disturbing. You shouldn't automatically assume it's crap. What if those kids are really in danger

They did explain this today, though and I did understand and sympathize with their dilemma.

They are a Donald Trump subreddit. The Trump campaign spun off several HUGE topics and they could easily dominate the sub and derail it if those topics keep cropping up.

That's why a new sub was introduced. However it was put on hold due to the banning today.

Eh I'd say the default subs are drastically worse in that category since they will also help to get your account banned if you try to go against their nicely cultivated narrative. That and the number of people they are able to influence and thought control is astounding.

I called someone out there for posting false information (that Michelle Obama unfollowed Clinton on Twitter)... I compared it to the sort of misinformation we see upvoted on /r/politics (as it was on the front page). I was banned despite the fact most of my posts / comments were pro-Trump.

I tried too, didnt show up

You can't use the word "pizzagate" in the title there any longer. They want people to discuss it in a weekly "investigations" mega-thread they'll be doing each week.

We will tell you how and when to think, citizen.

Oh you want to talk pizzagate? We're deducting 0.456 points from your global ranking.

I too have seen black mirror.

My citizen ranking is probably in the negatives

LOL WTF 1 9 8 4

Once a week, that should keep it from going viral. You can almost hear them saying it in their planning meeting.

Oh shit, it always starts with the mega-threads.

Try PepperoniGate

Is nothing sacred to these Molochian fiends?

To be fair it was probably handed down from the admins. Similar to the ban on /r/politics

How about the actual Donald Trump announcing that he is not going to prosecute Clinton? That could do it.

Well, if they indict her now, Obama can just pardon her. Also, the Clinton foundation investigation is ongoing and likely to be much bigger.

Preemptive pardons are a thing, though. That kind of tosses a lot of that theory out of the window.

edit:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2008/07/preemptive_presidential_pardons.html

In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment." (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.

and before someone says >Slate this was written by Ken Gormley of Duquesne Law School, Harold Krent of the Chicago-Kent School of Law, and P.S. Ruckman Jr. of Rock Valley College and PardonPower.com

But if they start talking about an indictment now. it will more "justified" for him to make the pardon. If he makes the pardon out of nowhere she will look 100% guilty.

What if he already pardoned her? Would we know of this? I'm not sure if that needs to be presented to the public. Maybe he did that years ago already?

Yeah but if trump announced no charges nor investigation, why you pardon her? That would look just terrible.

The pardon power of the President extends only to offenses recognizable under federal law. So any non-federal or international crimes would not be pardonable offenses.

That is true, but all of the relevant investigations are centered around federal laws. I don't think there's anything to do with emails/clearance/etc. that would possibly fall under any state law.

I think a lot of the Clinton Foundation stuff would probably fall outside of Federal Law, like some of the accusations out of Haiti. But in all honesty I don't expect to see anything happen.

To bad he said today that HRC had been through enough and he likely won't prosecute her.

REally??

Yup! He's going back on literally every single campaign promise (except the ones that help make him money, of course!) Luls. Kek isn't who they thought he was.

Of course that is no surprise at all

If only he was a politician, because politicians are always truthful.

This isn't true.

If you believe that I had a wall to sell you, but Mexico already bought it.

I'm holding out hope in that he doesn't want to do it without power first. Hopefully once he claims presidency

Keep holding out hope. I'd say he flipped, but it was lies to begin with.

Keep in mind he still has no powers. I think he's a smarter man than most people believe, and I do believe he still has a plan. Gotta believe in something, I'll accept proof when the time comes if he flips

I'd like to think he will let the new head of the DOJ decide what to do. You get those fucking rats Lynch and Comey out of there and see if there's enough evidence or not.

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The_Donald was a controlled sub from inception, sorry.

Yea, the idea that censorship in that sub is new is absolutely hilarious to me.

Relax.. They just posted an announcement https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5ee6gs/announcement_in_regards_to_todays_shutdown_of/

isnt pizzagate mostly about how evil hillary's circle is? Why would trump supports dislike it?

The said it was taking over the sub and the want the focus to be all Donald.

Too much Hillary-hating not enough Donald-adoring? LOL

They can't allow posts about it, because reddit admins would use fake posts as false flag attacks and take down /r/the_donald as well.

yes because they know they are next on the chopping block. so......let's post about pizza gate with our botnets on /r/the_donald and kick these mother fuckers off the internet once and for all.

Somebody posted child porn to the subreddit. That decision (by itself, idk about anything else that may have happened) seems pretty reasonable to me.

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The Joe Biden pizza bracelet is on the reddit front page and the people in there are such ignorant, clueless sheep. I can't believe this is what the world has come to. I can't believe I used to be one of those people shudders

Jesus, you are far gone down the rabbit hole

Ffs. It's obviously a piece of cake. What kind of Pizza is brown and white?

and was given to him on his frikken Bday...not pizza, Bday cake.

There are a couple of top comments about the pizza but then a bunch of retards reply with shit like "lel pizzagate confirmed 111!!!!11!!!!" to detract from the actual real and potential scandal of the century.

contact the mainstream media

They tried to play off globalism as a 'right wing conspiracy'. You really think they're going to let this one loose?

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Pizzagate Bomb the reddits!

Tzarbomba!

Power to the PeepHole!

I suggest: /r/pedopoliticians

Community unavailable?

Or r/thepedofile

Wow it's gone. Everyone come join a free speech platform https://voat.co/v/conspiracy

It can't handle the user load

There's more than just you guys showing up. Voat just took in all of pizzagate and a quarter as much sjw shills at the same time

You'll still get banned from Voat for harassment and doxxing

People can start by spreading it further outside from just the confines of "pizzagate."

If it's posted on every corner of the internet and everyone reads it then they're checkmate.

The thing with twitter is major.

what thing??

Not sure you really want to know but parallell to pizzagate is twittergate. Somebody uncovered a shit load (I'm talking thousands) of twitter accounts that openly shared CP.

Those sick fucks, and yet i bet they are still on twitter and our groups get shut down, wtf

Unfortunately, they are up. They banned the guy that exposed them instead of the pedos.

And is that the cause of pizzagate ban.

I know they were warned a few days ago

look at the exact wording of the ban message on /r/pizzagate .

Specifically, the proliferation of personal and confidential information.

Scary shit.

Scary cause people were pointing fingers to much??

It did get a little extreme there for a bit

scary because what does that mean for wikileaks and similar material?

It's vague and that's what's scary.

Got ya im on track :)

Not everything slightly vague is a slippery slope that will lead to the destruction of the Earth, you know

I'm perfectly aware of that but thanks for wasting my time with common sense bullshit, I guess.

Thought you were lacking it a bit

maybe put that "thinking" thing on the backburner. it's leading to assumptions and you know what they say about assumptions.

That's not true. Many of those twitter accounts got shut down. Probably as a cover up with no further action taken, but they did shut them down, none the less.

According to what I've heard, everyone got banned, all 25,000 of them in an instant, that means those who "only" followed CP sharer also got banned. I didn't check because it's all risky click, but if it was fake shills would've tell.

I can confirm what this person is saying. I followed it tangentially through the comments. People were throwing up warnings to "not go in there", getting really disgusted. The person who found it just stumbled upon it by following a trail of people who liked tweets of those discussed in the deleted sub-reddit.

Then it turned into a list of thousands of names. The person who found all this was tweeting the FBI while doing it.

They got banned and deleted from twitter while other brace soils went back and confirmed the offending accounts were still there.

Then they changed the list to include Howard Stern employees.

It was surreal to watch and was a major point in me believing the conspiracy even more.

Who changed the lists? You mean the person who exposed twittergate or someone else, sorry the wording is a bit vague and I have been following it but hadn't heard that part...

Sorry for the confusion. Someone other than the person who was creating the lists.

I should say, I only know that when it was happening, and I was following the comments in the post, the list was thousands of twitter accounts. The person compiling them was tweeting the FBI with each of them.

When I got back on to check, I read comments of people saying that the list was Howard Stern staffers.

Here's the link to the one I was following: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5e30ga/twittergate_is_happening_right_now_1000s_of/?st=IVVIABC4&sh=c5281ee9

yup..../r/whereisassange is next.

The users, now, will go everywhere because there's nowhere for them to go together.

Big mistake.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate

Can't even handle user load, not a viable option

Goddamnit. Fuck Reddit.

This is going to be an issue that leaves a whole lot of people on one side or the other. I think the child protectors are going to be dismayed to find out how many formerly trusted folks really aren't anymore.

It's one of the many things lately we can point to when we want to see Reddit's true colors poking through. Rampant censorship is probably going to be the death of the internet as a whole.

That's not the reason the sub got banned

child protectors

Oh my, who will save the children, if not the denizens of r/conspiracy?

This is all a psyop. If you can't figure that out, you aren't fit to protect yourself.

Yeah, a real genius psyop where they've lead the internet to believe our politicians are trafficking children when every other westernized country has been confirmed to have rampant pedophile rings running through their governments. Yep. Totally a psyop

Every other westernized country? My lord, the delusions!

confirmed to have rampant pedophile rings running through their governments.

I haven't heard a single piece of evidence about a single trafficking ring in a single country from a single government. And neither have you. You're either part of the government propaganda to create a new domestic enemy to fight, or you're a fucking moron.

You are so fucking blind dude. Get the fuck out of here

Dude. Grade A.

Thanks. I hate that guy.

Was the Dutroux affair a psyop? UK Parliament pedo ring? The Franklin case in Omaha too?

No, those were specific incidents at specific locations and times in history.

You can read my other recent post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5eejc7/here_is_the_post_that_got_pizzagate_banned_on/daby46u/

The sex trafficking lie is how the military industrial complex makes all its money. It wants you to believe that there are sex scandals everywhere so that it can make more money. That's why we live in an inverted totalitarianism. They make money by stoking fear.

That is literally the stupidest fucking theory I've seen on this sub. Military personnel and politicians worldwide purposely get caught participating in organize sex trafficking rings for money? You're an absolute fucking idiot.

I personally have never seen a dumber person on Reddit than this crystalhour dude. Ever. It would be funny if the level of stupidity didn't warrant concern. Why would the government want the internet to believe they're sex traffickers? That's not how manufacturing consent works.

u/ichoosejif omg 😂 ^{^}

omg. Here I am feeling on the far end of the spectrum....and then this. Ffs. At least they believe their own b.s.

I'm keeping the screenshots of that fool to put in a time capsule someday

Right. Prize-winning. Stupidity.

That's not what I said. Would you like me to reiterate what I said, or would you like to leave it at that?

The sex trafficking lie is how the military industrial complex makes all its money. It wants you to believe that there are sex scandals everywhere so that it can make more money

That is fucking stupid. You're saying that the highest levels of the most powerful governments in the world purposely get caught participating in organized sex trafficking rings. You are an idiot.

purposely get caught participating in organized sex trafficking rings.

What makes you say this?

Their budgets are determined by the threats that they claim to be fighting. There are no legitimate threats in America, because crime veritably evaporated over the last thirty years. THEREFORE, they have invented the delusion of sex trafficking to justify their budget. They can't make money without an enemy to fight, so they invented one. And the only way to invent one in America, is to invent a bunch of sex traffickers. Because sex traffickers aren't humans, they're devils or something. Don't worry, you'll be suspected of it before this is all over, because it's really about killing all the poor people. If you think you're gonna stick it to the man, you have it exactly backwards.

Their budgets are determined by the threats that they claim to be fighting.

None of the pedophilia rings were ever uncovered by the government. Sooo doesn't make sense to say they used those scandals to promote a cause they never did or claimed to do. In every case, Dutroux, UK Parliament, Franklin Nebraska, we have concrete proof of the government interfering in the case.

So no, you theory is stupid as fuck, not based in any real life facts or events. Piss off.

Fuck reddit for banning a sub that was harassing and doxxing people?

God this sub is so retarded

Why?

1984

Yes, it's now

FML

Username confirmed

Brave new world

r/Im14andThisIsOrwellian

r/Im14andThisIsSlavery

No, it's 2016. Ronald Reagan isn't president anymore.

Because people keep posting PII (personally identifiable information) on the sub, after many warnings not to do so

Gosh I just thought up a great way to get any sub banned.

Lets take down /r/harrypotter !

The important point is that the mods weren't removing the information after several warnings. If you have a bunch of assholes who are brigading your sub with PII but you're doing your best to remove it when it pops up then you'll be fine. But if you tell the admins to fuck off when they tell you to start enforcing the site rules then you get banned.

They were hyper vigilant about removing the PII for exactly this reason

https://archive.is/eGgQE

And yet the admins say that the moderators refused to remove PII after several warnings and discussions.

Strange, right? They don't ban other conspiracy subs?

Lets see these discussions or warnings, point us to the redacted PII in question

The mods claim there were no warnings given and that they were doing their best to remove any info asap.

claim.

[agent provocateuring intensifies]

So all I have to do to silence a subreddit I disagree with is to post information PII to that subreddit? How convenient!

And rely on the mods to be either incapable or unwilling to remove said information when asked by the admins to police their subreddit properly. Maybe with a concerted effort this would be a reasonable approach, but I think you've overstated the simplicity in your post perhaps.

A brigade is a brigade. Enough motivated people could over run any sub.. and maybe get it removed.

Okay? That's basically what I said. The person I responded to made it sound like a single person could accomplish this, which simply isn't going to happen, and that is the scenario I was responding to. I added:

Maybe with a concerted effort this would be a reasonable approach, but I think you've overstated the simplicity in your post perhaps.

A single person can accomplish anything on Reddit, a single account can not.

Perhaps with enough dedication and motivation, sure, but I still doubt you'd be able to take down any notable subs. Even if you did, it still isn't going to be as simple as "all I have to do is post some PII and shut down the sub." You're talking about setting up several accounts, circumventing shadow bans and the like. It's still going to be a pretty massive and laborious task that is still likely to fail against any notable sub with a half decent mod team that is willing to work with the reddit admins.

I'd imagine if you kept doing that they would ban you from the sub pretty quickly, so probably not.

But, yes, I suppose if you really wanted to get a sub taken down you could use a bot or get a bunch of people to do it. I'm not sure what resources the mods/admins have. The alternative is just letting people post personal information.

Is there some good reason why such comments could not have just been simply deleted?

The admins posted a big stickied warning the other day about it, but, apparently people kept doing it and they couldn't delete the personal info comments fast enough ...

I guess the sub is being moved to this website instead - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate

Sounds like the perfect job for CTR!

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And here is your second and final warning.

They could have been, but the mods refused to do so. And the admins aren't going to step in to help out when the mods are refusing to comply, so they give a bunch of warnings and then drop the hammer.

Well they should not have done that.

Now now, that's not the narrative people want to spread. They want to believe they've found some kind of pedo ring and the admins of Reddit are being pressured by the powers that be to shut it down because a couple of kids on the internet are on to them.

No, no, no. It's because the admins are pedos /s

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The question is why do people remain on Reddit. The users have the power.

Because apparently voat, who has been handed golden invitations to take Reddit over a few times now, is unable to close the deal

They've been DDOSed and flooded with CP every time they've gotten a major opportunity.

I know what DDOS is but what is CP? Cerebral Palsy?

And who is doing the DDOS'ing? Reddit fanboys?

Child porn

Well, that sucks.

I surf /all on reddit. Last time I checked /all on VOAT it was a very evil place.

a lot of christians/bigots/assholes arrived there when reddit banned r\coontown and r\niggers

You're right. They're even fucking it up now. It's down. "Voat is doing maintenance (Or under heavy load or under alien attack)."

Same reason why you bought a PC instead of a mac.

Not wasting money on shiny but inferior over-priced hardware made by child slaves? I'm not sure I get this analogy.

Because all your friends had a PC you you couldn't play Duke Nukem on a mac.

People are on reddit because it's where the audience is (for now)

That makes more sense ;)

I think your analogy is flip flopped. Seems like the new trend is Apple everything. iPhones are outclassed by android yet everyone goes iPhone because everyone else has one. Everyone is switching to Mac (possibly because Windows 10) but Macs are still utter shit

A. Obviously you're too young to know fuck all.

B. Are your friends playing Battlefield 1 on their mac/iPhone? No.

Not really much to argue, if you saw 20-30 year olds, they're all using Apple. Nobody is buying PCs and its obviously retarded to buy Apple when you compare the compatibilities of both.

Yeah but I used Duke Nukem in my reference, which frames it in the past when macs couldn't touch Duke.

Because I'm poor?

Call me a "shill" or whatever you pizzafucks call people that express some doubt towards your views, but I like windows better.

The size of the crowd makes it hard to break off.

Because angry white male teens don't actually enjoy hanging out with each other without an audience of "normies."

Im here for entertainment.

I'd imagine it has something to do with the guy that posted child porn directly to the sub.

That's an interesting tactic to silence a discussion. Just drop some CP in there and watch it deteriorate

Yeah, and lock up some people involved in the meantime for possessing cp.

Like when CTR paid trolls did that in all of the Sanders' meme threads on the eve of important primaries?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers that.

Couple of things never sat right with me when I heard about it, and in context they're starting to make more sense:

1. Where the fuck did CTR get child porn from? Not like it's exactly easy to come by ... unless your boss hangs out with people who run a sex-trafficking ring dealing in children.

2. How the fuck was no one prosecuted for one of the worst crimes it's possible to commit? Like, people have been thrown in prison for inadvertent, unknowing possession of CP; how the fuck were they able to post the shit publicly and not get even a slap on the wrist?

Well, if your organization is run by people so powerful that they make the garden-variety elites look like fucking ants, I guess it's not very hard to get law enforcement to look the other way.

Yes it's entirely possible the guy that did it is a plant.

I missed that entirely. Is there some kind of archive or rundown of what exactly happened (minus the child porn)?

Cause they were giving out personal info on pedos

https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5edior/admins_will_be_banning_this_subreddit_at_4pm_pst/

http://voat.co/v/pizzagate

I migrated to Voat this morning. Cool to watch the numbers swelling. It was at 170 when I checked this morning. Now it's over 400. See you there.

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On the upside, they are creating their own site, along with increasing use of the 8chan boards, from what I understand

Damn. That sucks to hear. Site is currently down for me. I guess there was a mass exodus.

We went there when fph got banned and you know what we found? Pedos. They were using it to share images. Fuck.that.

What is fph? Sorry new here

/r/fatpeoplehate was banned a while back.

The now banned subreddit /r/FatPeopleHate

That's OK it was a hate sub called fat people hate. They took things too far when they started targeting users and as such got banned. This happened during Ellen paos infamous evil reign as reddit administration. Google her name for pure juicy popcorn entertainment. Fat people hate wasn't alone though there were many banned subreddits but I can't think of another by name.

/r/coontown.

Oh that was true cancer of the highest form.

Wasn't there an upskirts one too or was that before what's her face?

Yeah that's ringing a bell. I think it was more just creep shots of girls in public.

/u/spez isn't any better than Pao. In fact his censorship has been far more political and shady than hers ever was.

There was no doxing in this case. All of the people discussed were public figures. This was simply censorship.

I personally saw two offences. One last night and one today. There was even a post requesting a brigade. They did break the rules and I personally saw it happen. However I still agree. Fph were at it for months and I needn't say anything about coon town.

We need a website that doesn't censor. People need to grow up. The world is full of people with unpopular opinions. Delete them and your fee fees are better, but you're living a lie.

I mean I hate golf. So I have this trick I like to do, basically I avoid golf. There are tons of things out there people won't like and they seem to forget they have this superpower called choice and are free to walk away.

It's everywhere there's user submitted content. Facebook, reddit, twitter etc.

Best you can do is report it and hope the medium has proper controls in place to deal with it urgently.

See you there bro. It hurt me that they closed the subreddit. :( you guys are the light for sure!

It was growing exponentially. I watched it go from 19 K to 23 K in less than a day. That was like four times as much as the day before. Does anyone know what the final count was? Just curious.

Could you guys address this article from Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/pizzagate-conspiracy/#!

To be honest, there are big flaws with the "investigation" into Pizzagate. As Snopes said, "we are unable to locate any substantive aspect of the claims that could be fact-checked or otherwise held up to the light to determine their veracity." That, however, doesn't mean that there aren't very real and disturbing things occurring here. The volume of information is overwhelming, and though there isn't much in the way of hard evidence, it's hard to dismiss the volume of circumstantial evidence.

Ultimately, this isn't narrowly about the Podestas and a pizza place in D.C. It's about exposing an underlying epidemic of child trafficking and pedophilia that seemingly exists across the globe. At this point, I wouldn't know precisely which information to point you at, but I would suggest reading this for context to understanding the larger issue. It is perhaps a little long, but it's well researched, and there are links to mainstream news stories about the cases within. As the writer points out, and I truly believe this at this point, "we are sitting on our very own modern holocaust." I think part of the reason that people have gone so deep with pizzagate is because law enforcement across the globe seem to be, at best, unwilling to pursue or prosecute any of the parties involved.

I get this message: Voat is doing maintenance (Or under heavy load or under alien attack).

We broke voat.

Just hit refresh a few times. Site is obviously not ready for this amount of traffic.

Voat's down now...

It is not; it works for me. It just does not have the same level of capacity as Reddit does. Sometimes you need to wait and refresh.

Roger. Thanks!

Ah, voat the home of pedophiles.

Happy Birthday. Would you like some pizza?

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I will heed this retarded rule the day hell freezes over.

It's 100% true if they are banning the sub.

Agreed. Not a good sign. Apparently we need a new place for freedom of speech online.

I've been a redditor for 8 years and I'm deleting my account soon. Fuck this place

yeah, it changed a hell of a lot but I've hung on, sadly I think we're about to lose the internet as many of us have known it...

How is your freedom of speech being infringed? I don't think freedom of speech means what you think it means.

I'll take the downvotes to mean you have no idea what you're taking about. A private corporation can censor what ever the fuck they want. The first amendment protects you from government consequences, not a privately owned website from removing content. But just keep down voting me and stay in your safe space bubble where freedom of speech means whatever you think it does

Always remember, anyone who disagrees with you must just be in on the conspiracy.

As always, remember you are the 5th or so 4+ year old account with under 10,000 comment karma to tell me that in multiple threads on different subs. Almost word for word. Sadly I had to delete all my pizza comments or get permabanned. How much did you pay reddit for these accounts?

Unlike you, not everybody posts on Reddit all day.

Yeah! Some of us post on other websites too!

Ooooooo, sick burn.

I got this account for free.... Reddit accounts don't cost money. Did you pay for yours?

I'm going to ask a few thousand people to harass you because I think you run a child sex ring, and if you make me stop it'll only prove I was right.

Also, Comet's meatball pizza is awesome.

Hey. Im saving all the docs, links, images, infos and translating all to brazilian-portuguese. It's a hell of a job but it worth it.

This PizzaGate is in the beginning to call attention of the brazilians and my website is the first and only one to do this job. Thanks for this community.

And i have a Forum (message board) with free speach principles... I just don't know if i'm going to post in a "official" topic in the forum or in the main webpage.

Guys, any suggestions? Where do i begin and what is the best way to do this job?

Yeah a truthful suggestion: Do things privately and with the utmost security. Looking and browsing, sharing a little on social media will let you fly under the radar,.get lost in the noise. Translating and transcribing the entire text is intelligence departmemt type stuff, and it could have a much larger impact so you are more likely to be targeted. With the sensitivity of the information and potential illegal videos you could untentionally get yourself in big trouble.

Other than that, Truth is important. Truth stands up to vigorous testing. So I say lets find out the truth is and move on from there. We need a societal reconciliation and moving forward. Truth and reconciliation.

How i can do this things privately if i'm going to post in my own website? Any WHOIS query can get my info. Well... I can always post this in the Forum, show to a user and ask him to post in my Forum.

Anyway, i dont have any sensitive video or illegal. Just the brief resume about the case from YouTube. Im putting legends (pt-BR) in the video right now to upload after.

To much info guys... I don't know where to begin this post. =(

Thank you.

Nothing. Wait until the end of the january. See if some of those fuckers with promises are good guys. Let the good power be shown if there is any. If not, fight until extermination.

Also, avenge Julian Asange if he is dead.

voat.co/v/pizzagate

voat.co

Can someone explain why voat is superior to reddit? does it have different admin and modding styles/rules? Different subreddit creation rules? Anything?

Can someone explain why voat is superior to reddit?

Evidently they don't protect Pedo's.

Evidently they don't protect Pedo's.

Uhh lolwut?

They sure as shit were welcoming jailbait for a bit there before that got cracked down on voat too.

And now a softer version of jail bait is one of their top subs. /v/youngladies...

They hate rules more than they hate pedos

So did reddit at one point.

Reddit is basically part of the MSM now. I mean the freedom you are supposed to have isn't here. That's why 4chan is still alive and some other new websites start to get attention

yes, i am beginning to see that. there was censorship of the orlando shooting, which was reddit admin approved.. and then they changed the algorithm to keep the_donald off the front page. Its getting pretty bad.

Thedonald and Politics are both upvotebot subs, they have completely unrealistic amounts of upvotes for their userbase and amount of comments. They should both have been banned long ago.

I mean the freedom you are supposed to have

What freedom? Surely you don't mean the 1st Am. That would be hilariously incorrect.

Same admins, different name.

They're tiny and they don't have any rules.

Alt right trolls can avoid being called bigots by "sjw cucks"

Maybe there is no conspiracy, and it was banned because it was being used to organize harassment of people in the real world which is completely against reddit's rules

Anyone else think it's interesting they're shutting /r/pizzagate down for the same reasons the SLC daycare thread was pressured by admins?

I know "doxxing" isn't cool, but it is an interesting link.

The admins could defend the platform of independent investigation while they're at it--even get an edge in on Twitter while they're at it. But they didn't. Will we get a public statement of any kind? Doesn't seem likely due to the range of possible motivations for the aforementioned lack of action.

So I'm with everyone else on this one, sorry.

"Doxxing" isn't posting publicly available information, though. It's a cop-out.

They got banned for witch hunting not doxxing, which is a completely different thing.

Posting links to people's real life personal information, publicly available or not, has been filed under "doxxing" by Reddit for fucking ages.

Also keep in mind that a lot of shit about you is publicly available in some form or another, that doesn't mean you'd want it posted for thousands of random fuckers on the internet to gawk at.

They broke reddit's sitewide rules. Why are people surprised they are banned?

The entire "investigation" was a farcical attempt at mob justice which put the boston bomber "investigation" to shame. I am sure you are very proud of the sub for only doxxing one person; us rational people think that is ridiculous. And the entire sub seemed to be centered around harassing the owner, employees and patrons of Comet Ping Pong. Banning it was beyond justified.

There is no evidence whatsoever that there is pedo ring involving Comet Ping Pong. You cannot argue with that.

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Looked at the conspiracy evidence post, there was conjecture, but nothing remotely concrete. It seems to amount to "Podesta said pizza, therefore, he is a pedophile". Obviously that is not real evidence. A warrant has not been granted related to "pizzagate", because judges actually have functional brains.

Rules 1 & 10. Removed. 1st warning.

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Still bullshit. It starts with the assumption the Podesta is a child molester, then goes on to show how, if you assume all his actions are related to child porn or prostitution, it appears all his actions are related to child porn or prostitution. I looked at the links, they either said something already known which is meaningless or they were source less hearsay and speculation.

What does this subreddit suggest that we do?

Most important: Do not post personal information in this sub.

Does that include business names? Podesta's names? Link's to public Instagram accounts? Seems more to do with the subject matter and attention than it does the personal information.

Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't already been warned about some of the 'pizzagate' posts here. Remember the child care facility problem we had a while back? When people start getting harassed because of what is posted here then that is a problem. I would say that anything that could lead to such harassment should not be posted here. That is my own opinion and is not an official stance of the mod team here..

Well 9/11 Truth research led Luke Rudkowski to question prominent people in all manner of ways. Does that warrant shutting down a subreddit or avenue of investigation as well?

Na I think it's always a delineation between public and private figures. You are welcome to say whatever about public figures. Private figures need a little more evidence then pizza gate ever provided.

Well I'm happy to second it.

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They weren't doxing other reddit users. They where investigating a pedo ring. That's very hard to do if you can't call out WHO you are investigating. Reddit used this an an excuse to shut down the sub.

They have all moved to voat. You remember that site we all rushed to after fat people hate got banned then we all discovered it was a breeding ground for pedos sharing images. That one.

There's some evidence those pedos were reddit admin sympathizers since they did the same to slimgr.

Really? Now that's very interesting. It's clearly not the place to be jumping to. Other then the chans what else is there?

There is nothing that cannot be tainted by the people you are fighting. 8chan is fine. Reddit is okay sometimes. Voat is fine. Nowhere is safe, and nowhere is perfect.

Set up a Discord server and chat with people. Don't use IRC. It's too easy to unmask people.

I think the correct response is to make a new subreddit and obey the site rules.

EDIT: just read on voat that they're apparently banning other subs within minutes of popping up? What the fuck?

The /r/pizzagate people really need to see a psychiatrist or a mental health professional. I am honestly pretty worried. How can anyone believe shit like this? You all are literally insane. Insane people think everyone is crazy but themselves.

You know, if you replaced a noun that appears a lot in the letter with child porn, a verb with raped, you can get alerming results. Also obvious code? If I talked about how much I liked a model train and you interpreted train as child porn, it would seem alarming right? It's because sentences are always formed with subject-verb-object. For your own sake see a psychiatrist if you don't see the ocaam's razor+the absurdity of all of this.

Then post it. Post the damning evidence.... I'll wait.....

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No actually post them...

99% of the the supposed "evidence" is prime material for /r/im14andthisisWTF

The truth would knock your warm and cozy safe socks off. You would probably have a panic attack if you learned the reality of what goes on.

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I'm a shill. Check through my post history how tf am I shill. This is the new "anyone who disagrees with me is hitler".

Rule 10 man. Comments like this aren't going to fly, make an argument next time.

Oh alright it slipped my mind, wont happen again

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No dude I think s/he might be right. I love me a good conspiracy theory but there doesn't seem to be any real evidence. A lot of what I read focused on creepy artwork and ambiguous instagram comments. Do you know of any proof? I'm not asking you to share a meme or link me to a mega-thread. I did that already, and I couldn't find the proof. So maybe you can help me and write a brief summary of what you feel is the most convincing evidence.

If this is all you have to contribute, say nothing. First warning.

Ridiculous censorship

Ridiculous censorship

It's the new "normal".

Get used to it - or FIGHT IT.

Your choice.

/Your children's

// Children

/// Await your decision

Ive been spending a lot of time lately contemplating death and what happens when you die - trying to numb myself to it, accept the reality of it, and no longer be afraid. I am getting close. I foresee bad events in this country and world's future, regardless of the trump victory

Jokes on them, I hate children.

A guy posted child porn there. I'd say it's reasonable.

And that's not even why they banned it. The reason they gave was Witch Hunting, and I think that's reasonable also.

If there was stricter Mods quickly taking all that stuff down, it would have been alright.

It's bad enough that people were giving full names and workplaces, without any actual evidence of crimes committed. But on more than one occasion, there was a link to the WRONG person that just had the same name. Not to mention posting proof that they are privately messaging (harassing?) some of these people on Facebook, etc

I also think that if they were just referring to the "big names", it wouldn't have been as much of an issue. But dragging anyone that potentially worked for these people into it is absurd.

I agree the harassment is wrong, but just posting the names with facts isn't that bad. I think the problem was basically asserting they have proof when they didn't.

If we are talking about the same thing, I think they were finding CP hosted on twitter accounts, and he was telling everybody to ban 'these accounts'; but he was linking the accounts. He didn't actually host images directly. Wasn't smart; but its sort of a catch 22. How are we supposed to battle the sick fucks if the second you see CP, technically you are then breaking the law? What a frustrating nightmare this whole thing is

We aren't talking about the same thing. I'm talking about the guy that said he hacked into We The Pizza.

Oh yea - well that guy got banned, and i dont think his thread was the reason that the sub got shut down. That was two days ago

Well if they were just censoring the sub to protect the pedophiles that would have been the reason they should have given.

That's a lie. He linked to Twitter accounts that were and they weren't being banned. Is exposing pedophilia on Twitter not a good thing? Twitter should definitely not allow that shit to be on its site.

Different guy.

name checks out

A guy posted child porn there. I'd say it's reasonable.

Slither back to the TopMinds hellhole of thy birth, slug.

What the hell are you even talking about?

Those that aid and comfort pedophiles are on the same level as pedophiles.

How is banning a subreddit for breaking site wide rules comforting pedophiles?

It's down! feelsbadman

RIP

This could also mean, at any time, they might decide to shut down this subreddit...

I doubt it... no one here really publishes a bunch of private information... and if they did we have experienced mods to deal with it in a timely and efficient manner.

Not to mention relatively few people would care (or even know to think to care) when hearing /r/Pizzagate has been banned for whatever reason. /r/Conspiracy is a different story entirely. Shutting down /r/Conspiracy would likely get noticed by a significantly larger portion of people and online media.

We have a seasoned moderator team that has steadily grown to meet the demands of the sub... pizzagate shot too high too fast and couldn't get enough people on the mod team to properly protect the users.

By nature conspiracy deals with big picture ideas and historical and political figures... not likely to lead to doxxing, because we rarely pry into the lives of private citizens.

We have a seasoned moderator team that has steadily grown to meet the demands of the sub... pizzagate shot too high too fast and couldn't get enough people on the mod team to properly protect the users.

That and they actively refused to follow site rules when they were warned. When the admins warned the mods here about the daycare thing they actually listened and removed any personal information. They didn't tell the admins to fuck off like the pizzagate mods did.

We are all guests here at reddit... we have to follow their rules... freedom of speech does not apply. They set up a secret clubhouse... and forgot that it was still in mommy and daddy's backyard.

It might even be viewed as an attempt to shutdown discussion conspiracy discussion. A conspiracy if you will

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Ironic that the only place you have enough freedom to speak out against evil is a place where people are free to do evil.

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Are you fuckin kidding, 4chan and 8chan are pedophile--excuse me--"child model" central; how much more hypocritical can you get? You clearly are not thinking straight/utilizing even an ounce of logic. Come back when you're not drunk with irrational hatred for people who've never done you any harm, I mean, of course, your hatred for the good and productive people of Comet Ping Pong.

You do realize there's an active cp drawing (hentai) thread on 8chan, so yes the site that would be hosting your Pizzagate delirium is an active platform for what are essentially gateway drugs to actual cp.

Point is that 8chan and 4chan are thoroughly discredited sites. Hives of misogyny, racism (the "n" word infests), and other disreputable obsessions. So by all means go there, confine yourselves to that a priori disreputable ghetto. Your message will then assuredly never get out. Tant mieux!

Its called free speech, we are in America. the last time I checked, we may not have the speed of north Korean internet but we are still just a wee bit more open to speech. What does it matter if people use derogatory or racist language on pol? For these teens in real life its the forbidden fruit. Something they can't do with out the anonymity of the chans. Sure some are serious but I think most just go along to get along, how do you live your life so offended by everything? Who fucking cares what anybody says? Is the information relevant? Does the source seem credible? This is all that matters. Proper punctuation, correct pronoun usage and political correctness have nothing to do with the content or its credibility. There is a Russian adage that came to mind. "Don't confuse charisma with scrambled eggs". Basically it doesn't translate well but it means you are comparing apples to oranges.

Well trump went to pedo island too. So when he said he'd stop the investigation on shillary it was because they fired back at him that they would expose him too.

Oy vey shut it down!

Is Voat down for anybody else as well?

Sigh, this is scary.

they are certainly hitting this comment section hard. Someone should tell them that Hillary took all her money to Qatar and they won't be getting paid anymore.

Uhhh....what's pizzagate? How is that related to the Donald

How to give a lot of validity and attention to a conspiracy theory with one weird trick!

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Someone should make a sub called r/voatpizzagate.

As soon as people start talking about all the private subs devoted to trade...shutitalldown!! How many employees of lereddit were outed as registered sex offenders?

I've made a new subreddit for evidence documentation and investigation. Please join me over at /r/pizzapartycrashers. No shills allowed, I will be extremely vigilant of this community to ensure that what happened to /r/pizzagate does not happen here.

Aaaand it's already banned

Next time maybe people shouldn't act like a bunch of retarded moonbats if they want to be taken seriously.

"So we doxxed a bunch of people on twitter, and the admins banned us for doxxing. What a bunch of pedo cucks, they must be totally in on the conspiracy"

This is why most people aren't taking you seriously.

They had gone too far in such a public site.

I'm all for finding the truth and calling out these fucker, but the name pizza gate turns me off. It seems fake and makes light of a serious subject. I understand why it was chosen but I still find it ridiculous.

Yeah... just some catchphrase that doesn't come close to covering the full scope of the issue... Also ridiculous... That stupid sidebar image on /r/conspiracy... I can understand wanting to support the pizzagate folks, but that image is goofy and childish and does nothing but undermine their movement. There are plenty of better ways to show support than that embarrassment.

I don't think I can see sidebar images from my app. Can you describe it?

http://imgur.com/a/D04kZ

Holy hell that's awful. I'm not a sensitive person, it doesn't offend me or anything, I think to be taken seriously you need to be serious. That is anything but.

It is just plain embarrassing for the sub... the kinda stuff a 13 year old would think is funny. There are a million other ways to show support for the pizza people.. why that one was chosen... I dunno.

It's just plain dumb... and makes us look dumb.

Fuck I hate this corrupt shitty earth, these fuckers should be put up against the wall when this is over

This "fake news" shit really irks me and I hope others understand that what they are trying to do is to set up a "ministry of information" where the only "facts" that can be discussed are those agreed to by the 6 corporations that own all media outlets.

Not that pizzagate isn't "big", but what they are trying to do has far broader ramifications and should have everyone worried.

It is the equivalent of the Council of Nicaea agreeing to what books represents "the truth" and brandishing all other heretics.

{edit: someone downvoted me?}

Just checked out Voat. Wow, what a crappy community. Any site that says "nigger faggot" that much isn't a site I want to spend any time on.

I'll visit pizza gate though, because I know it's it's only refuge.

To be honest I never even visited the pizzagate sub, I'm just too cautious. If this thing is really that big part of me believes that they're tracking all the people who go in and out of it online.

They track everyone anyway.

If you're letting fear control your anonymous online activity, they've already won.

Strength in numbers. They can't arrest us all.

The Gang Gets Arrested

Time to grow some balls!

I just saw it was banned...

Not sure the alternate place to go, but this might be a good thing. Reddit was restricting people's content and I agree Reddit isn't the site for that type of shit

well this just proves they were on to something.

They were. If you do some googling, you'll find some articles laying much of it out. Got to be careful to check the sources on everything of course but there is a LOT of very damning/concerning circumstantial evidence. No solid proof of anything YET. I like to think that at the very least when the FBI is no longer hog tied that the info found in these suns and 4chan etc will at least aid their investigations.

Why is that sub being shut down?

Posting people's information. Notice how the pizza conspiracy theorists wouldn't actually tell you.

But why?

That fucking sucks. I hope you'll find other methods of delivering the truth.

Of course you got banned, you pizza lovers were openly trafficking in cp and pretending to be doing it for noble reasons.

Yo, don't get angry mate, didn't mean you personally, but that sub definitely was.

Dude, that is bullshit. We all understand the seriousness and the trouble you can get in for cp. You are being downvoted hard because you are so very wrong. Why the disinformation? What are you trying to accomplish here? There is no need for it. If you have proof of something a screen shot perhaps by all means share it, if not piss off.

Continuing TOS violations

Define TOS real quick for me

Terms of service ;)

Thanks!

this sub so goes to hell. first spammed with all this us-voting politic shit and now only pizzagate and kany west nonsense. who the fuck cares? thats distraction - nothing less.

Kanye West is a distraction to democratic organised crime: media control, rape, murder, pedophilic behaviour, rioting, destabilisation and the goal of open borders, 37 genders:confusion and feminist, social justice warriordom.

In defense of the reddit moderators, that subreddit was rife with witch hunting. There was a guy who recommended everyone contact two of the people on Comet Ping Pong's instagram page and he even went so far as to contact the FBI. I understand why they did it, because if they go out and start smearing the wrong person, it can ruin lives.

So... as someone who recently stumbled upon (and has been disgusted by the possibility of pizza gate being a reality...) this whole thing is weird - what could be the reason for shutting the sub down? Do people implicated have a reach that can affect Reddit like that?

Full disclosure: out of the loop all around

Every infographic had a pictures of people's children... children that are innocent of any crimes.

It wasn't out of the blue... the mods at pizzagate were warned several times... and they in turn warned the userbase several times... and it kept happening.

That was all public information though.

Depends on your definition of public. Those were peoples kids pasted in infographics with creepy guys in drag and bloody bodies. I dunno how public vs private works... but maybe once they set their social media to private the pic becomes "private" even if you already downloaded it... most real media puts black bars over the kids faces... Id assume there is a legal reason for that.

reddit down the shitter.

What the fuck is pizzagate? Two points here:

1. Why do yanks always feel the need to append "gate" to anything they think is remotely scandalous?

2. By appending "gate" to virtually every minor and inconsequential thing, whatever-gate now signifies a fringe complaint and can be safely ignored.

Google watergate scandal. Originally gate just happened to be in the name and mind you this was 30+ years ago. Today "gates" is a colloquial additive thrown into to things centered in a scandal that normally aren't seen as so.

To dismiss things without knowledge of what your dismissing is a mistake.

It's a shame journalism makes this difficult and a chore even but that's what it is now and no country is free of that.

Google watergate scandal.

I really, really don't need to.

Today "gates" is a colloquial additive thrown into to things centered in a scandal that normally aren't seen as so.

Not really. Today, "gate" is a lazy suffix that tabloid journalists add to a name in order to sensationalise a topic. It's a kind a political dog-whistle aimed at fringe groups and conspiracy theorists.

To dismiss things without knowledge of what your dismissing is a mistake.

If I paid attention to every "-gate" scandal, I'd be doing nothing but reading about celebrity gossip and storms in teacups. Adding "gate" to a topic is how you label something as insignificant. Seriously, no real or consequential scandal has ever been labelled "-gate", ever.

Thanks for proving my point quite clearly. Cheers.

You sound like a creationist. Any kind of rebuttal proves your oppression.

I noticed you weren't able to provide a single "-gate" name to disprove what I said.

Enjoy your bubble.

I assumed it was Watergate, but that was just one scandal. The US has had so many, yet this one scandal seems to be the go-to comparison.

It's a shame. If a real scandal appears, it will be dismissed because of the ridiculous name. Perhaps that's the point, it's a conspiracy to make all conspiracies look specious. I call this theory Scandalgate!

;-)

Yanks? Ha. Dude shut up

Uh, ok.

How can I argue with such an articulate representative of the yank community?

Calling an entire country "yanks" just makes you look like a poof tosser or twonk you bloody doughnut.

o_O

Wrong country, try again.

Very witty, mate.

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Limey? You think I'm British or somewhere in the UK? I'm almost half a world away from the UK.

You're such a fucking yank. You jump uninvited into somebody else's conversation, make an incorrect judgement of who's speaking, then make a knee-jerk reaction based on incorrect assumptions and incomplete information.

You sure proved me wrong.

slow clap

What's Operation "Berenstain"? Does that have something to do with the Mandela effect?

Ah ok, thanks

lol... voat is down? interesting.

Tf did we call it Pizzagate for?

Because apparently using the word pizza in daily conversation makes you a pedo.

Since 2010 Cheese Pizza is a known code word for child porn. CP.

If you are gunna talk about child porn through e-mail or something would you REALLY use the real words? It would be like doing a drug deal and not calling it angel dust, weed, or dope, those are not the real names of the drugs, but does it make their meaning any less real?

Streissand effect has now been activated.

Man, Fuck whoever was responsible for this and those who cover up rape of children everywhere. You have truly let down your species

Not to defend anyone but I have to say I saw personal information being posted often without verification.

Fair enough

How does one investigate something without posting information about it? Politics is posting personal information all the time but Pizzagate gets censored.

You do your investigation someplace where it isn't against the TOS to post private info... reddit explicitly states you aren't allowed to do that... so reddit is a bad place conduct an investigation.

i guess youll have to find another sub to discuss pedofilia

You can go use pedofriends or whatever the fuck that pedo friendly board is, unlike pizzagate - it's not banned. Think about that, pedophile board is ok, but trying to save children from a pedo ring is not?

How far are these crooks and perverts going to need to go before we unite in real life and stand for the truth?

Amen.

/r/aww locks post with necklace from Joe Biden to Obama

http://i.imgur.com/7827mdb.jpg

What is pizza gate?

This should bring you up to speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyh1dzNTTEI

Wtf is pizzagate?

I suggest you start focusing your efforts on people with power who matter(may I humbly suggest one Donald J. Trump?). You guys won, you created so much doubt in people's minds that Clinton lost the election. It doesn't matter that your baseless theories were never substantiated; it's over now and time to move on.

Is there a statement from the Admins about this?

This sub is delusional and you sound like crazy people. Come on election is over.

Lol

teleports behind u and cuts off ur head while snap kicking it into the sun

psh nothing personnel, kid

Asking questions and searching for truth. Not delusional.

Nice try. goodbye.

This should be front page. :|

Holy shit GUILTY!!

Can someone TLDR this pizzagate thing for me? Been confused ever since I first heard about it.

Peopke looked for links they wanted to find and shockingly, they found them. Never a smoking gun in site. A great conspiracy theory that got taken way to far imo.

Wow I guess people will really start moving to Voat now because of Reddit's paid elite who will shut it down.... If they shut down this investigation subreddit and not some others it pretty much means that it was true and we were onto something... My fellow people maybe someone could compile the pizzagate reddit posts on archive.is? Like post link of all the most important discoverations...

Here is another place to discuss pizzagate... We don't need reddit screw em!

https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/first-blog-post/

There are also a number of threads on Above Top Secret: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/index.php

If any of this is really a thing, string em up for a public hanging. This is lower than premeditated murder.

Good.

What the fuck has happened to this sub? It's sad.

what was the subreddit about?

Pizzagate is supposedly about how Podesta, the Clinton's and other government/rich/powerful people were part of a pedophile ring and they were using pizza shops as a front to run it.

They claim that those people are a part of a pedo ring?

What is so bad about "claiming" this? or is it just because those are powerful people,they banned the sub?

I think part of it was all the accusations got out of hand, circumstantial evidence, etc.

lol, got out of hand? our politicians are pedos, point blank period

Yeah but they were posting pictures of innocent kids and saying they were fucktoys for pervs... Even if it is true you are supposed to blackout their faces like every other form of media does with child victims before making it public.

Agreed, a small correction to be made in pursuit of a much more noble cause. To shrug and say we couldn't catch the pedos cause of rules and red tape is lazy and makes reddit complicit in my eyes

And the parents of those children would consider reddit complacent if they allowed continued posting of their babies in graphic and disturbing infographics. Everyone has a full data backup of /r/pizzagate and a brand new message board with no doxxing rules. I don't understand why everyone is over here being so pissy about it. Continue the investigation unabated... you'd be surprised how much progress you can make when your hands aren't tied by the strict rules of reddit.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but Reddit is still part of the problem...as you alluded to. And that sucks

Just remember... reddit is the whole reason this "pizzagate" story is all over the news feeds. Even if they are dismissing the allegations... they are still talking about it and getting people thinking. Maybe someone will come forward about past abuses they witnessed if they feel like someone out there has their back... that there is hope of it being stopped. There is no such thing as bad press... and pizzagate being shut down makes an search for "reddit" on google news lead to fresh stories and links to voat.

The shutdown turns a one off news story into something a little more substantial... another day in the headlines. Exposure is good... all it takes is one real witness to come forward to the cops when they realize the story about being locked in a cage in the basement of a pizza place won't make them sound insane. MSM no matter how biased could lead to big developments.

The reason the board was banned was because they were posting peoples information....which you kind of have to do to investigate stuff. Funny how this started happening when they started to raise money for a Private Investigator though. Not fishy at all.

FACT: Elite pedo scandals really occur /are ongoing.

ISn't it POSSIBLE PizzaGate is bullshit? Maybe cooked up and the r/conspiracy pot stirred even? Coincidence's occur (see Lilly, RAWilson). But for a suspicious looking sign this whole narrative weakens considerably for example. Add some tendentious reasoning and leaps of 'logic'...Voila --"fake news".

FACT: Elite pedo scandals really occur /are ongoing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Investigates/

Just go to https://8ch.net/pol/index.html

This will always be a problem as long as you keep putting research on these centralized systems. Blockchain time! http://pizza-it.org/

Heidi de pauw

steemit.com #pizzagate

Why does nyt care about some small pizza place on D.C.? Just saying

exactly....

Is anyone else wondering how safe we are now that this information is known by what might be considered a small group of people?

I'm as the Forum owner, encourage all brazilians and internacional folks who speak portuguese to join our open investigation against that case. My Forum platform is free of any kind of censorship with free speech principles all over the place. If you want to join us, send me a message and i give you the link.

So its come out Steve Huffman is a paedophile , no real suprise

Knowing now that reddit is owned by Conde Nast with magazines like Vogue which marina abramovich is in bed with it's no surprise now how reddit will serve their owners and police anyone posting real information. They will protect their satanic baby eating/drinking overlords with zeal.

why was it banned? you guys didnt actually post porn in there did you

At the same time Alefantis is in the new York Times complaining about fake news.

NYT did no investigation, just assumed everything is false. Fake Article!

apologize!!

Supposedly personal information was given out which was again TOS. I haven't seen any personal info on there lately though, and i've seen most posts on there this week!

but anyone who is against it couldve just posted it deliberately to have it shut down. is that really the policy? coz then you can have anything here shut then

get how it works now? We've moved over to voat

I want to, but it's always down/under maintenance (like now). Plus, I'm a mobile user and there is not an app for iPad that's even slightly good.

If there was an alien blue clone ide be gone in a second.

hmm looks just like reddit

Yeah, but safer.... and a lot slower

i checked it again earlier. seems people from reddit are starting to move there and its causing some drama. i guess its like the refugee issue in europe, somewhere among those people is 1 or 2 or 3 shills

at least...

The mods were refusing to remove personal information when warned by the admins. That's why they got shut down.

PII is the excuse

What is Pll?

PII posted by a shill

What the hell are mods good for then? I hope to read a retrospective in a few days about just wtf happened.

Someone did.

This is so angering. Can a new sub just be made like /r/pizzagate2 ?

/r/pizzagate2 is....already banned? wtf lol

Time for r/Pizzagate2 or www.pedopizza.com either way we can't be silenced.

People can't rely on shaddy centralized proprietary services for freedom of expression. We need something decentralized and libre. Like the Fediverse/GNU Social, Diaspora, Matrix/Riot.im.

What if your name came up by error un PGate? Let's say they found a pedo with the same name as you but started linking to your social media profile? This is what happened. And pls, don't try to label me a shill or anything. I've probably provided more insightful information than others to PG (using a throwaway of course).

What if your name came up by error un PGate? Let's say they found a pedo with the same name as you but started linking to your social media profile? This is what happened. And pls, don't try to label me a shill or anything. I've probably provided more insightful information than others to PG (using a throwaway of course).

I just shared this with all contacts. This has to become part of mainstream public awareness so it can be stopped.
The anarchists of this world need to fund a real world brotherhood to hunt these evil people down.
I'm making arrangements. They fucked up. As a military veteran in good health, they are fucked. They better pray for a prison cell.

It has begun.

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What is this?

Trump isn't in office yet...

PEDDIT

The stuff these "Pizza" people were up to was sick & depraved.

ALL of them should be force fed their own genitals.

That said, all of the talk about pizza is really making me crave some damn pizza.

This is so fucked. Hillary isn't even in office and she's still fucking us in the ass.

I seem to be the only one who doesn't know..so what the fuck is pizza gate??

I think there is this thing they call "search engines" on the interwebz.

I thout pizzagate was satire...

freedom of speech huh?

we won't forgive we won't forget

expect us

voat is down for maintenance.. bummer

Probably gettting a ddos attack or reddit hug of death

I suggest you do more due diligence before going on a witch hunt which will end up getting this sub banned too.

Reddit basically was this subreddit. Without it reddit would never have become what it is today.

The very first post on reddit was something suitable for this sub, made by Mr. Stratfor-Sellout himself.

The second to top comment says "this is a repost" never change reddit users.

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Yes, quick, everyone brigade this 10 year old post!

Good fucking riddance.

I don't really think there is anything there. Can someone please explain how one goes from pizza and pasta to pedos?

I've read the emails. There is nothing that gives any indication that pizza means anything related to pedophilia. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

It appears that they are talking in a cryptic manner, but no where has a connection been made which directly attributes the cryptic talk to pedophilia. If you are going to do anything show me the direct evidence which shows pizza/pasta means boys/girls/pedophilia.

Not a shill just a curious and skeptical.

All this 'people don't talk this way' and 'cryptic speech' can easily be dismissed when you realize these are old people, and they e-mail like grandma texts. Just with better spellcheck. That's the only reason it sounds weird. There is no code; there is nothing suspiscious about a novelty pizza map handkerchief someone found and was literally emailing their friend if it was theirs because they found it after they visited (turns out it was theirs); nobody said anything about demolishing children - the children and speaking party were going to demolish pasta gifted to them; there is no inherent logic behind kinda creepy art -> fuckin pedo.

This whole thing is the tinfoiliest, logically-bankrupt, politically-motivated, psychotic character assassination witch hunt pushed by 4chan trolls and fallen for by The_Donald and r/conspiracy because their absolute personal hatred for Hillary Clinton blinded all reason.

Good fucking riddance with this blithering nonsense.

You don't know the definition of cryptic.

Yeah, hidden meanings, code words. That's not happening.

I thought you would know what it meant seeing as how you have all of the answers.

Curious what clues? Also if you replace any generic common nouns and verbs in a message with rape and pedophiles, you will probably get alarming results since all sentences follow main subject verb direct object. You can adlib it from there to make any sentence you want. /r/pizzagate is literally full of people who really need to see a mental health professional.

I think you are being a little harsh. To me it's clear that Podesta is speaking in a cryptic manner which warrants investigation. I just think the Pizza people jumped to conclusions a little too fast.

And putting the sentences pulled out of context into context doesn't help either. Read the out of the loop thread. There are a bunch of comments that should make you stop for a second and just think about how ridiculous this premise is.

You don't have to convince me, I looked at the evidence and believe this premise to be false.

You obviously have not done any research yourself. Gtfo.

Pizza=pedos obviously. You literally need to see a mental health professional if you actually think that.

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So whenever someone uses the word cheese pizza, it means pedophilia. Also remember politicians are basically all normal people who lived lifes like normal people, got a pol sci, degree and rose the ranks. Why would this type of person be well educated in pedo terms? And there are probably multiple terms that can be code word for cp and also if cheese pizza is as common as you think it is why would they use that word? Also one of your "picture evidences" is literally a mom being reunited with her child after being captured by North Koreans. I don't know why mental health is so stigmatized but you should really see a psychiatrist or something if you can't see the flaws in your argument and the obvious ocaam's razor.

I have looked at the Podesta emails. What evidence specifically connects the use of the words pizza and pasta to pedophilia?

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honestly fuck reddit might have to use voat and 4chan again

hmm looks just like reddit

Does that include business names? Podesta's names? Link's to public Instagram accounts? Seems more to do with the subject matter and attention than it does the personal information.

They weren't doxing other reddit users. They where investigating a pedo ring. That's very hard to do if you can't call out WHO you are investigating. Reddit used this an an excuse to shut down the sub.

I will heed this retarded rule the day hell freezes over.

I do wonder about Tor because, IIRC, it was created by US intel agencies.

Jimmy Carter said something interesting a year or so ago about keeping his messages private - he sends a USPS letter and wax seal or something. Funny

Lol

Yeah it's been flawed for a while but what's the biggest issue is how every single modem, router, hub etc... Is also backdoored so even if you do try to encrypt anything they are able to get through it at basically a live pace.

TAILS OS is recommended even by Wikileaks. Supposed to be used in conjunction with TOR, digital currency like BitCoin, and especially using a VPN proxy chain. The last item is key. Don't forget to use search engines that aren't compromised. Duck Duck Go used to be good but ever since Yahoo flipped DDG isn't as reliable for true anonymity. Not because DDG flipped but because Yahoo could create backdoors as well plus it already let the govt send in surveillance web bots to scour yahoo emails. Which reminds me: avoid using outlook, yahoo, gmail, and AOL. There's more email client options than those four thankfully and always remember if you can't find something your looking for on line then aim for creating your own. Creation is the only freedom in the 21st century.

I want to, but it's always down/under maintenance (like now). Plus, I'm a mobile user and there is not an app for iPad that's even slightly good.

If there was an alien blue clone ide be gone in a second.

It appears that they are talking in a cryptic manner, but no where has a connection been made which directly attributes the cryptic talk to pedophilia. If you are going to do anything show me the direct evidence which shows pizza/pasta means boys/girls/pedophilia.

Not a shill just a curious and skeptical.

Every other westernized country? My lord, the delusions!

Dangit they're onto us!

Edit: oops wrong tab

confirmed to have rampant pedophile rings running through their governments.

I haven't heard a single piece of evidence about a single trafficking ring in a single country from a single government. And neither have you. You're either part of the government propaganda to create a new domestic enemy to fight, or you're a fucking moron.

Okay? That's basically what I said. The person I responded to made it sound like a single person could accomplish this, which simply isn't going to happen, and that is the scenario I was responding to. I added:

Maybe with a concerted effort this would be a reasonable approach, but I think you've overstated the simplicity in your post perhaps.

Shit! I thought dank was good!

Signed up for an account. Shits getting crazy around here... #Freedomandtruth

Dude the site is down...DDOS?

Yup. Usually carried out by military groups, intelligence agencies, etc.

Remember when Reddit announced the "most Reddit-addicted cities" out that Eglin Air Force Base was the top, by a landslide? They since removed it since the person who posted it had no idea of the implications.

Funny shit.

Dude. Grade A.

I find it hilarious you're advocating a site with a top sub for pedophiles.

Go. Get the fuck out of here. Leave. Be free.

Fuck, you're BSing me. Is it sexualized but clothed teenagers? I didn't check the sub you mentioned. I don't care for that type of content, but it is legal. I'm okay with all distasteful but legal content if that's how you get a censorship free site.

Reddit is a goddamn cesspool too you know.

Its one guy on a cheap vps and he copied the open source reddit source code, modifying slightly how it looks. He has no idea how any of it works.

They claim that those people are a part of a pedo ring?

What is so bad about "claiming" this? or is it just because those are powerful people,they banned the sub?

i checked it again earlier. seems people from reddit are starting to move there and its causing some drama. i guess its like the refugee issue in europe, somewhere among those people is 1 or 2 or 3 shills

hell, i'm just a normal simp, and i have bots scraping reddit..

Dude Swype mistakes are a thing how can I be a simp if I'm single? Isn't that the opposite of a simp?

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Lol, do you not see a problem with how information is fed to the mainstream?

We already live in an Orwellian society, where we are told to think and feel a certain way and when our thoughts or beliefs shy away from this, we are told we are crazy or out of touch with reality.

Do I think that a lot of people get carried away with conspiracies?

Yes.

Do I think our mainstream information sources are tainted and have MASSIVE amounts of power to sway the general consensus any way they want?

Also, yes.

I'm keeping the screenshots of that fool to put in a time capsule someday

Who changed the lists? You mean the person who exposed twittergate or someone else, sorry the wording is a bit vague and I have been following it but hadn't heard that part...

there's no point in using a code word if anyone who is looking will know what it means.

Except that's exactly why you use a fucking code word!! The people who know what it means, will know what you're talking about. The people who don't, will think you're talking about a pizza related map on a handkerchief. And with code words as innocuous as pizza and map, you have plausible deniability if authorities find them out.

But, yes, I'm sure people involved in international child trafficking wouldn't use a code word that is known internationally. They'd make up their own one and then wonder why none of their accomplices understands what they're saying.........

I just fucking said

You would establish a codeword in person then use that.

If you established the codeword in person then both parties would know what the codeword was, so no you wouldn't wonder why none of your accomplices don't know what you're saying because they would understand because you told them.

Even if there was an international pedophile ring with hundreds of members, they don't all need to meet up in order to change a code word, in fact, if there was some sort of international ring, it would probably be split up into different groups like a lot of organised crime groups, and there would most definitely be many different code words used within each smaller groups.

I'll eventually code up a new reddit with blackjack and hookers just you wait. It'll also be able to scale horizontally effectively by using a fleet of node servers behind an nginx reverse proxy.

go google simp you clown.